Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: The Traveller on September 20, 2006, 11:38:16 PM
Title: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: The Traveller on September 20, 2006, 11:38:16 PM
Wow this game looks fantastic! I think this and Mistwalkers other rpg will be the final push into picking up a 360 when either of these games hit. This looks way better than any of the latest FF titles, cant wait!
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: KDR_11k on September 21, 2006, 02:48:25 AM
I'd wait until I've read reviews. Remember, this is Hironobu "Story is more important than gameplay"* Sakaguchi. These could easily end up being pretty turds.
*= Yes, he said that.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: The Traveller on September 21, 2006, 03:03:14 AM
Well..remember it is a traditional rpg, I dont think gameplay will be hugely innovative. But still if its anything like chrono trigger it will be great.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2006, 03:31:45 AM
This is also being developed by Artoon, yet another reason to have a "wait-and-see" attitude...
And please, for your sake, don't set your expectations as high as Chrono Trigger...You'll just end up extremely disappointed... =(
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: KDR_11k on September 21, 2006, 06:14:14 AM
Traditional in the D&D or traditional in the dungeon crawl&grind sense?
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Post by: Ceric on September 21, 2006, 06:38:34 AM
I am excited about this game but I don't own a 360 and won't for the foreseeable future. (ยข to my name)
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Post by: Pale on September 21, 2006, 06:43:32 AM
This is the game that could make me buy a 360... I'm really hoping it doesn't come to that though as I want to save my money.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: KDR_11k on September 21, 2006, 10:08:52 AM
Pfft. Just dig out a Final Fantasy game, play it for a bit then put it back on the shelf again to restore your understanding that Sakaguchi is overrated.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 21, 2006, 10:24:16 AM
Depends on what FF game we are talking about. FFIV or FFVI are great, FFIX is almost great.
Title: RE:Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on September 21, 2006, 10:48:56 AM
The first Final Fantasy was the best if you ask me.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Smoke39 on September 21, 2006, 11:39:45 AM
I liked what I played of FF7. Am I a bad person?
Title: RE:Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: jasonditz on September 21, 2006, 11:44:39 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot The first Final Fantasy was the best if you ask me.
Indeed, the original is the only mainline Final Fantasy I've really cared for either. 11 was fun for like a month... way too rigid equipment standards for a serious MMO though.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: couchmonkey on September 22, 2006, 08:11:29 AM
Oh dear, I HATE the original Final Fantasy now. Way too much level grinding and a terrible magic system. After a few Super NES games showed me that level grinding was boring, I traded my copy of FFI for a pack of gum. However, that's just personal taste for you.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Ceric on September 22, 2006, 11:54:06 AM
What type of Gum?
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Caliban on September 22, 2006, 12:56:11 PM
I watched some gameplay footage of this game from IGN...it looks ok, it looks just like the typical JRPG game, nothing new, but if the emphasis is story and the gameplay is not enticing enough then whats the point of getting this game.
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Post by: Requiem of Darcness on September 23, 2006, 02:03:22 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Smoke39 I liked what I played of FF7. Am I a bad person?
Yes it makes you a very bad person. If it wasn't for FF8 and FFX-2, FF7 would be my least favorite Final Fantasy game ever. Although I don't think its possible for me to despise any game more than FF7. The insane hype versus the reality of the game was beyond disappointing.
Title: RE:Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on September 24, 2006, 12:53:54 AM
Quote Originally posted by: couchmonkey After a few Super NES games showed me that level grinding was boring, I traded my copy of FFI for a pack of gum.
I hope you traded it for good gum, like Cola flavour. (NOT Vanilla Cola flavour, it's not the same.)
Moving on - I was kind of hoping that Blue Dragon was going to be action-RPG. I like an RPG where you actually get to hit things. My favourites were Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma, Soul Blazer, and Brain Lord was fun too (if not only because of the WACKY TITLE). Oh well, maybe one day another nice Action RPG will arrive again. Maybe.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: KDR_11k on September 24, 2006, 09:29:57 AM
Did they even have Vanilla Cola back then?
And I agree, Action RPGs are better. Not necessarily because they're realtime but because there are no transitions for battles and you can avoid a fight. Nothing is more annoying than having to run through an area with random encounters, even if the enemies in the encounter pose no threat or you can easily run away, the whole transition, loading, etc takes way too much time in most games.
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Post by: IceCold on September 24, 2006, 02:48:27 PM
There are only a few select "real" RPGs that I like - I just can't handle selecting attacks rather than actually playing.. Some Action RPGs are great, though.
Quote Moving on - I was kind of hoping that Blue Dragon was going to be action-RPG. I like an RPG where you actually get to hit things. My favourites were Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma, Soul Blazer, and Brain Lord was fun too
You forgot Tales of Symphonia
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Post by: wandering on September 24, 2006, 03:14:33 PM
Quote Did they even have Vanilla Cola back then?
Vanilla Coke? That's been around since forever. Young Whippersnappers. Back in my day, soda jerks added our cola flavorings by hand, and that's the way we liked it.
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Post by: Ceric on September 24, 2006, 06:43:00 PM
Yes Papii.
The idea of the mini-game battle system intrigues me even though I seem to miss most of the games that use it. I don't mind random battles but I do like more interactivity within my game. So it requires more then just a button press to do things.
Title: RE:Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 24, 2006, 07:32:09 PM
Quote Originally posted by: IceCold There are only a few select "real" RPGs that I like - I just can't handle selecting attacks rather than actually playing.. Some Action RPGs are great, though.
Quote Moving on - I was kind of hoping that Blue Dragon was going to be action-RPG. I like an RPG where you actually get to hit things. My favourites were Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma, Soul Blazer, and Brain Lord was fun too
You forgot Tales of Symphonia
Maybe if Tales were an Action/RPG...
Since you still go into a separate battle screen, I'd consider the game an "RPG with action elements."
(<3 Terranigma so much...SO MUCH...If I had to pick one game to be on the Virtual Console, Terranigma would be it!)
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Post by: Ceric on September 24, 2006, 07:33:21 PM
Does that make Link an "RPG with action elements" too?
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 24, 2006, 07:34:49 PM
No, because Zelda has absolutely NO stats what-so-ever...If it doesn't have stats, it's not an RPG...
(Except for Adventure of Link, duh...)
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Ceric on September 24, 2006, 07:37:35 PM
I thought Link had stats of some sort. The rest of them definitely not. But it's been lets see... over 10 years since I last played it. So I'm going to assume I was mistaken.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 24, 2006, 07:42:38 PM
Wait, if you meant Adventure of Link then spell out the entire name! >=|
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Post by: IceCold on September 24, 2006, 08:15:28 PM
Well, Tales is far from a traditional RPG, and that's all that matters to me
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Post by: Ceric on September 24, 2006, 08:18:36 PM
I thought Link to the Past wast LttP and Adventure of Link was just Link. *shrug*
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: KDR_11k on September 24, 2006, 09:03:00 PM
No, that was AoL. As in "EAvil".
Title: RE:Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Caliban on September 25, 2006, 06:47:22 AM
Quote Originally posted by: KDR_11k No, that was AoL. As in "EAvil".
Ok, why do people have this rejection on AoL, seriously, it's one of the best Zelda games ever, in fact to me it is the #1 Zelda.
Terranigma is the best, VC get!
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: KDR_11k on September 25, 2006, 08:09:59 AM
Because of its retarded continue system that forces you to walk all over the world each time you run out of lives. Because of the stupid fighting system. Because of the insane "walk through walls" or "find the hidden square on the world map" puzzles that were necessary for finishing the game. Adventure of Link is even worse than the first Metroid. Sidescrolling Zelda was awesome in the later games but AoL is a retarded implementation.
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Post by: Ceric on September 25, 2006, 08:14:53 AM
Quote Because of its retarded continue system that forces you to walk all over the world each time you run out of lives.
Thats pretty much it for me. If the fix the save system it would really be a contender for best Zelda game.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: couchmonkey on September 25, 2006, 09:38:12 AM
Apparently the game had super long lines at TGS. Impressions suggest it's a pretty typical RPG. The boss battle I saw on IGN had some hilarious 80s hard rock music.
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 26, 2006, 10:12:39 AM
I watched a video of the game this morning and it looks kind of neat. maybe the game that could get me to get a Xb360 if the game comes out here. I don't know if it is or not. But I love the character design, Dragon Quest on Xbox 360. ^^ But the game does seem, at least in the video to have a delay when going into battle.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 28, 2007, 12:59:20 AM
Title: RE: Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: couchmonkey on August 28, 2007, 06:33:24 AM
Ahahahaha. I'm glad, because I was tempted to get this game. According to the 7.9 the story is boring through the first third which is kind of the problem I had with Tales of Symphonia too.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 28, 2007, 08:38:31 AM
Stop playing games for story. It's only text and talk-talk-talk you should skip anyway.
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Post by: Ghisy on August 28, 2007, 09:59:55 AM
I read that the Euro version won't even feature the original Japanese voices because they added a shitload of other dubs (French, Italian...). That's lame...
Title: RE:Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 28, 2007, 01:17:56 PM
Well Ghisy I don't think they had space to fit Japanese since they needed the Euro dubbs, Blue Dragon is a game that takes up 3 discs.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 28, 2007, 01:20:15 PM
Well I hope Eternal Sonata turns out good, I enjoyed the demo even if it was extremely linear (I liked the battle mechanics though).
Title: RE:Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Kairon on August 28, 2007, 01:35:43 PM
LIVE!!!!
I dislike GameInformer, but they gave this game a 9.
Title: RE:Blue Dragon (360)
Post by: Ghisy on August 28, 2007, 09:06:24 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis Well Ghisy I don't think they had space to fit Japanese since they needed the Euro dubbs, Blue Dragon is a game that takes up 3 discs.
I know but they should release a country specific version: like English-Japanese for the UK, French-Japanese for France and so on. I mean I don't care about any dubbing if the Japanese version is available.
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Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on December 27, 2007, 07:00:03 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been more said about this game, even if it IS getting kinda old. I went and helped myself to it as a post-Christmas snack. It seems pretty fun, and the class/skill system is nifty. The monster designs are cool, but I don't like the characters much. Especially Shu. His cursing brings me great shame. Everytime he says something, I wither with embarrassment like a cigarette slowly curling and burning out in an ashtray. It brings back foul memories of babysitting my little cousin. "Where the d@mn's my h3ll d@mn b@st@rd at?"
Is there a reason you have to sort through feces for treasure? Is that a joke or something?
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 27, 2007, 07:20:35 PM
I want a jrpg but I hate jrpgs. I like using a lot of characters at once with crazy skills. Will I dig this game?
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Post by: Kairon on December 27, 2007, 07:34:24 PM
Hmmm... I know I posted positive reviews earlier, but I have heard that there is some dissent as to the game's quality. Hmm...
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 27, 2007, 11:07:09 PM
It's celebrated for being a jrpg on a usaconsole
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 28, 2007, 01:00:37 PM
Everyone should buy Eternal Sonata the most overlooked RPG of the year!
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 28, 2007, 02:50:34 PM
I was looking at it and saw you can have four characters at once. That's a plus!
Now tell me if it plays like baby's first rpg (FF7) or not
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 28, 2007, 06:19:33 PM
Quote Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R I was looking at it and saw you can have four characters at once. That's a plus!
Now tell me if it plays like baby's first rpg (FF7) or not
From what I read from reviews the job system in the game is a carbon copy of FF:V . And that Microsoft's packaging for the game sucks 3 discs stacked on top of each other WTF is that, from what I heard from my friends they said the game doesn't really pick up until disc 2 and theres no random battles, all the enemies are on the screen.
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Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on December 28, 2007, 08:25:14 PM
Blue Dragon is a textbook jrpg, but it's really polished. There's nothing WRONG with the game, if you like that sort of thing. In small doses, it's a lot of fun. Typically, I only play the game for a half-hour at a time; any longer than that, and vanquishing Poo Snakes with your +1 Battle Menu starts getting real tedious. The characters are annoying, and as far as I can tell, they never STOP being annoying. I wish more jrpgs let you create your own character. Then your character's only as obnoxious as you unintentionally craft him or her to be.
Of special note is the absurdly melodramatic 80's rock that accompanies boss battles, which goes something like: "This is the beginning!/The lion of the night's ascending!/This is the beginning!/The beginning!/The beginning!/My self-esteem is neverending!" I like to think that whoever chose to inject that music into the climactic boss battles was being silly on purpose.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 29, 2007, 04:11:36 AM
Noah,
I don't know if you know a lot about Japanese culture but they do have a strange affinity of 80's "butt rock" or super cheesy 80's rock and throw in some engrish.
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Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on December 29, 2007, 07:03:43 PM
I had no idea. It seems so out of place, because the rest of the game has a symphonic score. There'll be this light string section and then BAM! Night Ranger! I've noticed this phenomenon in other games (like Sonic Adventure), but, to my knowledge, it's never been so hilariously inappropriate as in Blue Dragon.
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Post by: Drakzen on October 11, 2008, 08:26:55 PM
Blue dragon is a really good game if your thinking of buying it i must admit that the story is pretty dull at the begining and only really start's at disc 2 but this game is still good most people dont like this game because either they arnt into this game style but this game is rather easy and is a good buy i really want to get that eternal sonata because im into all these rpg type games they rule anyway when playing blue dragon make sure to talk to alot of people to discover non storyline area's they are quite rewarding. what I suggest is not carrying on with the main storyline once zola is in your party and you leave jibral at the begining of disc 2 dont do the story until youve searched around a bit and gained some exp :P