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Post by: Hocotate on September 14, 2006, 07:43:47 AM
Wii - $250
Since it comes with Wii sports I'll just play that untill I can afford more games. For x-mas I'll probably buy myself a game or two.
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Post by: 18 Days on September 14, 2006, 07:47:37 AM
wii remote x1 nunchuck x1 zelda metroid excitetruck red steel super monkey ball excite truck
all up, less than a PS3 would cost in Australia
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2006, 07:47:37 AM
mine is as follows:
Wii=250 Nunchuk/wiimote 2=120 Zelda=50 Elebits=50 Red Steel=50
520 total
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Post by: Caterkiller on September 14, 2006, 07:48:30 AM
Im still not clear on what comes out on day one. I know Zelda is like Dec 11th right?
wii = 250 remote (x3) = 120 nunchuk (x3) = 60
Rayman = 50
I want Excite Truck in there, and Wario.
I plan on spending around 600.
Pluss i'll be buying an extra wii for a friend of mine who gave me is Ultimate Spider-Man #1, in retun for a new Gamecube. So I willingly promised a new nintendo system for him and his kids every generation.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2006, 07:52:30 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Caterkiller Im still not clear on what comes out on day one. I know Zelda is like Dec 11th right?
wii = 250 remote (x3) = 120 nunchuk (x3) = 60
Rayman = 50
I want Excite Truck in there, and Wario.
I plan on spending around 600.
Pluss i'll be buying an extra wii for a friend of mine who gave me is Ultimate Spider-Man #1, in retun for a new Gamecube. So I willingly promised a new nintendo system for him and his kids every generation.
Zelda comes out at launch, it is the GC version that comes out Dec. 11th.
Launch games: Excitetruck Madden Red Steel Zelda Elebits
And um not sure on the others.
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Post by: BigJim on September 14, 2006, 07:59:09 AM
I'm probably gonna be getting a pre-order bundle, so it depends what's in the bundle... but what I am interested in is Zelda, Excite Truck, Red Steel, and Prime3 later on.
On the Iffy list: Sonic, BWii2, Rayman
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Post by: Plugabugz on September 14, 2006, 08:01:12 AM
Knowing what i know now... it has to be less than £199 now, especially given that the 360 basic box is that price.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 08:03:50 AM
Quote Originally posted by: HocotateWii - $250
Since it comes with Wii sports I'll just play that untill I can afford more games. For x-mas I'll probably buy myself a game or two.
I think a lot of people will be doing this, since the system is $50 more than people expected.
I'm thinking about waiting until SSBB launches sometime next year, likely after a $50 price drop when they release a Wii pack sans Sports.
SSBB is the only "must have" title for the system for me and with the Wii launching a mere week from the WoW expansion, it just doesn't make sense to drop close to $400 on a Wii + game and controllers.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 08:03:59 AM
Knowing what I know now, I don't know if I'm getting a Wii at launch.
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Post by: eljefe on September 14, 2006, 08:04:23 AM
yeah I may have to wait till some games like Rayman, WarioWare, and Super Monkey Ball drop in price
I'll try to convince my family to buy their own controllers as well, or I'll only buy more remotes which is enough to play WiiSports together.
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Post by: Artimus on September 14, 2006, 08:05:26 AM
Nothing. I had $300-320 or so set aside, and that's what the system will be here. I can't afford that price and another game or controller. And I'm certainly not paying that much money to sit here and play preschool tennis with myself.
Hopefully I can get it at Christmas because I do really want one. Nintendo just screwed the launch up for me, is all.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 08:05:56 AM
I'll definitely be reserving a Wii, just in case it's incredible, but if it isn't, there's always Wiibay just waiting to take that sucker off my hands.
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Post by: Kraven on September 14, 2006, 08:11:04 AM
1 Wii 250 1 Controller 40 1 Nunchaku 20 Zelda 50 Red Steel 50 So thats 410 plus ct tax 434.6
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Post by: Rhoq on September 14, 2006, 08:11:05 AM
(Assuming that all launch titles are priced at $49.99)
Excite Truck…………………………………………………..$49.99 Red Steel…………………………………….…….………...$49.99 Trauma Center: Second Opinion………......……...……...$49.99 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subtotal……………………………………………………...$459.94 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7% Sales Tax………………………………………..………$32.20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grand Total………………………………………………….$492.14
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 08:20:29 AM
A friend of mine just pointed out: there should have been a Wiisports bundle and a ZELDA BUNDLE.
Seriously, paying $50 for a bundled tech demo SUCKS...
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 14, 2006, 08:20:57 AM
I have the feeling many fans will drop plans for buying a Wii at launch, but the minute they start showing off brand new game footage, some surprising game announcements and they read impressions that greatly applaud the Wii they will change their minds and buy one at launch.
It seems that whenever they make an announcement regarding the Wii fans are dissapointed, then after a while they go back to being excited.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 08:23:15 AM
Yeah, but I'm quite serious when I say that I won't be buying nearly as many games as I had initially planned.
I had 6 or so planned, but given that it's so late in the year, I'll have other entertainment means already lined up so I won't need to spend that much on an entertainment budget.
Title: RE:Knowing what you know now...
Post by: TrueNerd on September 14, 2006, 08:25:23 AM
Wii - $250 Zelda - $50 Extra controller (Wiimote + Nunchuck) - $60 Probably one or two other games before the end of the year - $100
Total - $460 With tax - $500 (roughly)
The real tragedy in all of this is that the majority of the awesome DS games coming out this fall will have to wait or possibly skipped altogether. Sorry Contact. Sorry Mario vs. DK 2. Sorry Elite Beat Agents. Sorry Casltev... who am I kidding, I'm still buying you. Sorry Lunar Knights. Yoshi's Island 2 and Castlevania may be it for the DS purchases this fall. Sad.
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: 18 Days on September 14, 2006, 08:29:42 AM
Smash Brother, that game (Wii Sports) is FREE. You're not paying for it. Shut up and eat your sour grapes.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 08:30:48 AM
Quote Originally posted by: 18 Days Smash Brother, that game (Wii Sports) is FREE. You're not paying for it. Shut up and eat your sour grapes.
Yes, actually, we are.
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Post by: 18 Days on September 14, 2006, 08:34:13 AM
Oh cry me a river, Japan get a cheaper console going by direct currency translations? Welcome to PAL region. Nintendo Australia don't even have to announce it. I'm announcing right now that Australians will be paying $75 US for their games.
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Post by: mantidor on September 14, 2006, 08:35:24 AM
Im only getting it when Metroid is launched, hopefully they console will have a price cut by then.
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Post by: Artimus on September 14, 2006, 08:36:26 AM
Quote Originally posted by: 18 Days Oh cry me a river, Japan get a cheaper console going by direct currency translations? Welcome to PAL region. Nintendo Australia don't even have to announce it. I'm announcing right now that Australians will be paying $75 US for their games.
LOL, good point. It would appear the price is partially just the Americans paying for their crappy dollar.
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: 18 Days on September 14, 2006, 08:36:32 AM
Are you guys seriously upset by $250? It's called inflation. This is cheaper than your N64s.
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 14, 2006, 08:37:58 AM
hahaha, you all know that you are gonna be forced to buy a bundle with games and stuff you don't want or need, right?
but just in case I get to pick my own bundle, I will probably just get one extra controller and nunchuck (but not open, just buy as a later replacement) and maybe Raymay, definately Zelda and whatever looks good.
I will be more open to 3td party this round than before, because of what we all did with GCN, it hurt the GCN. So if a neat game comes around I will look into it.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 14, 2006, 08:38:07 AM
Quote Originally posted by: 18 Days Smash Brother, that game (Wii Sports) is FREE. You're not paying for it. Shut up and eat your sour grapes.
To be honest, the Japanese are not getting Wii sports packed in and the system costs 210 dollars. Nintendo is charging 40 bucks for Wii sports.
I think the main problem fans have is that Nintendo is pushing up the price of the Wii by forcing onto them a 40 dollar tech demo. It may be fun and may prove that the Wii is the way of the future, but it's kinda unfair to force it onto them.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 08:39:13 AM
Quote Originally posted by: 18 Days Smash Brother, that game (Wii Sports) is FREE. You're not paying for it. Shut up and eat your sour grapes.
Japan's bundle doesn't include it and it's $212.
Ours does and it's $250.
Doesn't take an econ degree to realize that that isn't "free".
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Post by: Rhoq on September 14, 2006, 08:41:35 AM
We all knew that $249.99 (US) was the most expensive the Wii could be. We were expecting the rumored $179.99-$229.99 price range, but when all is said and done, we always knew that $249.99 was a possibility. There is really no excuse for bitching about price, it's not like Nintendo didn't warn us months ago (The Wii will cost less than $250 - which it does...by a penny). I was expecting the final package that we're getting (with Wii Sports, too) for the $230 pricepoint. It didn't happen and $20 isn't going to break the deal for me.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on September 14, 2006, 08:45:25 AM
While we may all be pissed about how much Nintendo is charging to put WiiSports in there, it has to be packaged. Bottom line. Remember you people are not Nintendo's target market anymore, they know you will buy no matter what, whether it be now or later. They need to open the door to new gamers and the perfect game to make people interested in the Wii is something simple like WiiSports. Parents will go to buy a game system for their kids and see the Wii, which has a game packed in. That game means they don't have to buy another and their kids can use the system. Maybe when they see their kids are enjoying the game and it is simple to play, they will buy another Wiimote and they will hop on and have some fun with it too right along side their children. $50 is alot to us because we expected it to be $200 most parents will see the reasonable price tag and throw down the cash. It definitely beats the $400 360 and the $600 PS3 where they HAVE TO pick up another game. Understand that selling the Wii is business not about appeasing all us fanboys. I'm sure WiiSports will be fun, hey they even threw in 2 new sports, suck it up and deal with it. If you don't like it that much don't buy one. But in the end of it all it's only 40 bucks extra, life goes on, it shouldn't stop anyone from buying a system that almost definitely will a true videogame revolution.
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Post by: RickPowers on September 14, 2006, 08:47:31 AM
OK, let's just stop the myth that the Japanese system costs $212. It doesn't. You can't do a Yen to Dollars comparison, it just doesn't work. There's a concept that many of you aren't familiar with which is the "purchasing strength" of currency. Factoring that in (I'm not going to bore you with the math, I did enough of that in another thread), the Japanese price of the Wii is actually higher ... only by single digits, about six dollars, actually, but still higher.
We're getting a HELL of a deal, not to mention getting it two weeks early. Do I wish it were $199? Sure, but who wouldn't? Will I still get one at launch? Yes, but the only other game I'll get is Zelda, where I might have picked up something else too. But since Wii Sports comes with it, I have something to play with the wife, and that's all I really care about.
Maybes: Excite Truck (review pending) Red Steel (review pending) Marvel Ultimate Alliance (review pending) Trauma Center Second Opinion (if I feel like it at the time) Wii Play (if it hits US launch; costs $40 and comes with a remote so I'd add this and nix a remote purchase)
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 14, 2006, 09:04:07 AM
Now that I think about it, I think some people are being a bit too bitter with this, result of the typical "shock' that comes whenever Nintendo makes a big announcement.
True, I think the system should've been cheaper, but it is still the cheapest of all the three consoles. if you can't afford it and would rather wait till the system is cheaper or a better game is released, then fine. If you can afford everything at launch, fine. It just that there is no point arguing a personal buying decision.
In my case, I can't afford the system at launch. Hell, I can't even afford a Nintendo DS game right now because a great deal of my money is going towards school projects. But I'm not that upset about it.
You either buy it at launch or don't It's as simple as that.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 09:06:36 AM
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 09:07:20 AM
Quote Originally posted by: RickPowers but the only other game I'll get is Zelda, where I might have picked up something else too. But since Wii Sports comes with it, I have something to play with the wife, and that's all I really care about.
That's the general feeling with quite a few people, minus the wife and desire to own WiiSports.
At $250, Microsoft could do a surprise price drop of the 360 core package and be at the same price in the US, making it much harder to convince a graphically-oriented US that their console is a better choice than the 360.
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Post by: wandering on September 14, 2006, 09:09:29 AM
Wii: $250 Zelda: $50 Wiimote: $40
Total: $340.
(for reference, the cube was Cube + SSBM + Pikmin + extra controller...only $20 cheaper, I think.)
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Quote At $250, Microsoft could do a surprise price drop of the 360 core package and be at the same price in the US, making it much harder to convince a graphically-oriented US that their console is a better choice than the 360.
Except Microsoft won't, and the Wii will sell out.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 09:11:14 AM
Quote Originally posted by: RickPowers The Japanese get a free game when they purchase a second controller, which everyone will do anyway. Suck it.
Wait, WHAT?!?!
So not only are we paying extra for a goddamn TECH DEMO, but Japan gets to forgo the tech demo and then get a free game with a 2nd controller?
I'd take it in Dec. to avoid this BS, thanks.
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Post by: Artimus on September 14, 2006, 09:15:24 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Quote Originally posted by: RickPowers The Japanese get a free game when they purchase a second controller, which everyone will do anyway. Suck it.
Wait, WHAT?!?!
So not only are we paying extra for a goddamn TECH DEMO, but Japan gets to forgo the tech demo and then get a free game with a 2nd controller?
I'd take it in Dec. to avoid this BS, thanks.
To be fair, the Japanese tech demo is even less of a game than WiiSports.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 14, 2006, 09:17:39 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Artimus
Quote Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Quote Originally posted by: RickPowers The Japanese get a free game when they purchase a second controller, which everyone will do anyway. Suck it.
Wait, WHAT?!?!
So not only are we paying extra for a goddamn TECH DEMO, but Japan gets to forgo the tech demo and then get a free game with a 2nd controller?
I'd take it in Dec. to avoid this BS, thanks.
To be fair, the Japanese tech demo is even less of a game than WiiSports.
Is it that game that has ping pong, billiards, trivia and such?
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 09:20:13 AM
I don't want tech demos, though (I still regret buying Luigi's Mansion).
I'd rather just pay the baseline console price, get a game of my choosing and grimace while I pay $180 for additional controllers that can be used for multiplayer Red Steel.
But whatever. I don't agree with this decision by Nintendo and as such, I'll simply borrow my friend's copy of TP once he's done with it while I enjoy Ubi's launch offerings.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 14, 2006, 09:25:26 AM
Why do I have the feeling that in spite of what people think of Wii sports now it might end up being a surprise hit among fans and may actually do the Wii good?
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Post by: vudu on September 14, 2006, 09:32:49 AM
I hope they cancel SSBB. Then maybe we'll get a little peace and quiet around here.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 14, 2006, 09:36:06 AM
Quote Originally posted by: vudu I hope they cancel SSBB. Then maybe we'll get a little peace and quiet around here.
At that point SB will blow several blood vessels in his brain due to all the rage going on in his mind...
...Either that or he stops supporting Nintendo, whichever comes first :p .
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Post by: capamerica on September 14, 2006, 09:37:02 AM
Wii - $249.99 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - $49.99 Metal Slug Anthology - $49.99 Swing Golf Pangya (import) - $64.90 Kingston 1GB - $12.99
Total = $427.86
Title: RE:Knowing what you know now...
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 09:39:17 AM
Quote Originally posted by: vudu I hope they cancel SSBB. Then maybe we'll get a little peace and quiet around here.
So long as you cower behind snide comments instead of speaking your mind as though you actually have a pair, you will never know peace.
Quote At that point SB will blow several blood vessels in his brain due to all the rage going on in his mind...
...Either that or he stops supporting Nintendo, whichever comes first :p .
It ain't gonna happen.
Nintendo cancels their biggest cash cow, ever? Uh huh, sure.
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Post by: vudu on September 14, 2006, 09:50:45 AM
I have a pair. I'm just a bit tired of your constant bitching. Didn't your mother ever teach you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all?
So the price is high? Yeah, it sucks. I wish it were cheaper. Oh well. Get over it. So WiiSports is packaged in with the game? I probably wouldn't buy it on its own, but now that I have it, it's a great excuse to show it to nongamer friends and family. That's Nintendo's plan. So VC games are higher than you wanted? So you can get them for free via ROM? Good for you. I'm not a thief. Nice to know you don't think stealing is wrong.
Quit the constant emo act and slit your wrists already. That, or just be glad Nintendo is not only surviving but thriving against such strong competition.
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Post by: Adrock on September 14, 2006, 09:58:20 AM
I really wanted Metroid Prime 3 so I'm probably going to wait until next year and get the console in black. Getting Wii is tempting, but I plan on getting Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin and maybe Twilight Princess on Gamecube. If Twilight Princess on Wii can wow me enough, I'll wait. Thank the Lord for demo kiosks.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 09:58:44 AM
Quote Originally posted by: vudu I have a pair. I'm just a bit tired of your constant bitching. Didn't your mother ever teach you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all?
So the price is high? Yeah, it sucks. I wish it were cheaper. Oh well. Get over it. So WiiSports is packaged in with the game? I probably wouldn't buy it on its own, but now that I have it, it's a great excuse to show it to nongamer friends and family. That's Nintendo's plan. So VC games are higher than you wanted? So you can get them for free via ROM? Good for you. I'm not a thief. Nice to know you don't think stealing is wrong.
Quit the constant emo act and slit your wrists already. That, or just be glad Nintendo is not only surviving but thriving against such strong competition.
GET THE NET, SAM! I GOT A LIVE ONE HERE!
Bout TIME you came out of your shell and spoke your mind...
Here's the thing, yes, I think the price is a bad idea. Yes, I am going to speak my mind on that subject.
The point of messageboards is to discuss this sort of thing, and I'm profusely sorry that, unlike some, I cannot go without finding fault with the actions of the almighty Nintendo, but I'm not about to change my opinion because someone who disagrees with it is going to label it bitching.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 14, 2006, 10:09:09 AM
"Didn't your mother ever teach you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all?"
Transalation: no negative comments on the PGC boards. Nintendo is God and the world is made of marshmellows.
If I bought a Wii at launch I'd probably just buy the console and one game. Let's assume Metroid Prime 3 made launch. In that case I would buy it and not bother with other controllers since it's mostly a single player game anyway. If WiiSports was really awesome maybe I would buy a second controller after trying it out.
So...
Wii: $270 Game: $60
Total: $330 Canadian plus tax. You only can play one game at a time so I say start with one and buy more when you're done with it. There's no real advantage to owning several launch games at once since you only have so much time.
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Post by: vudu on September 14, 2006, 10:10:18 AM
It's fine that you find faults. Speak your mind. Maybe wait for someone to respond and then retort. But there's hardly a need to over run the board with fifteen posts that read almost the same. You did it when the Wii name was released. You did it for SSBB. And now you're doing it for the price and WiiSports pack-in.
People get tired of reading the same post over and over again. Perhaps you don't trust us to read your one well-organized post, so you post it in multiple threads to ensure we'll read it. Perhaps you feel that if the point is repeated often enough it somehow makes your ideas more valid. Regardless, I find myself getting more annoyed every time I read one of your posts. Which is a shame, because it's not that you don't have anything meaningful to say--it's just that it tends to get covered up by all the other crap spewing from your fingertips.
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Post by: eljefe on September 14, 2006, 10:22:01 AM
people are forgetting, or not noticing that, wiisports will sell systems...even more than a lower price would. As mentioned, WE are the niche market. We will account for only about 20 million consoles 5 years from now.
All of our families will tip the sales scale skyward. And its for two reasons: store walk-ins and houseguests. Someone already said that many shoppers will walk in and see the price (and whats included) and fork over cash for it. Its fully functional, and fun. Also, people who see us playing in our homes will join in and get a taste for the system. Eventually they'll buy it too.
What other game could do that? If you honestly think Zelda TP or ANY OTHER GAME could sell Wii, look no further than mainstream media coverage at E3. Did Spielberg play Zelda with Miyamoto-san? No
I can understand not wanting the higher tag, but if they resolved to do a pack-in THERE IS NO OTHER GAME THEY COULD HAVE CHOSEN.
I was actually hoping they wouldn't even give us a disc. It should just be built-in as a WiiChannel.
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Post by: Kairon on September 14, 2006, 10:23:58 AM
I think it's perfectly cool that a lot of us won't get it at launch, and will instead wait for 2007 for Metroid or for the furor to die down. After all, Nintendo doesn't need one big day, they need consistency. And with 4 million consoles delivered before new years, perhaps shortages won't be so bad?
Myself, I've always planned around a 250 dollar price point and have also planned on getting Wii Sports, so this news doesn't faze me one bit. Only the controller prices caught me off guard, I do feel that Wiimote + Nunchuck totaling 50 dollars would be where they need to move towards. And with the news that I can only get the Opera browaser free before June 2006, I may need to get a VC prepaid card at launch whereas before I had planned on holding off on that for a month or two...
However, I will still get one at launch, or launch window, and am now awaiting a full and official confirmation of launch games and launch window release dates so I can plan accordingly.
My one point of disappointment and confusion: Zelda GC is alunching a WEEK LATER?!?!? I can't race my roommate anymore now! /cry
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 10:24:57 AM
Quote Originally posted by: vudu People get tired of reading the same post over and over again. Perhaps you don't trust us to read your one well-organized post, so you post it in multiple threads to ensure we'll read it. Perhaps you feel that if the point is repeated often enough it somehow makes your ideas more valid. Regardless, I find myself getting more annoyed every time I read one of your posts. Which is a shame, because it's not that you don't have anything meaningful to say--it's just that it tends to get covered up by all the other crap spewing from your fingertips.
Sorry, it tends to happen when we have a pile of similar threads which all basically ask the same thing.
I hate to say it, but I do feel that I'm more encouraged to post these comments in threads where people seem to be able to say no wrong on the subject.
On the flipside, what good comes from people saying POSITIVE things...at all? Positive comments don't change reality any more than negative comments do, so why is a dissenting opinion automatically worth less than a positive one? Because people are bothered by it?
On the subject, I intend to preorder tomorrow, but Ian's mantra of one game at a time makes the most sense, but the controller prices are still very much a sock to the gut, especially if the reason is because Nintendo expects that everyone will want to own their own controller. That's Japanese logic which absolutely will NOT fly here in the US.
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Post by: Donutt007 on September 14, 2006, 10:26:26 AM
I thinking about dropping around $450-$500. So I guess it'll be.. Wii:$250 1 Wiimote and nunchuck: $60 Rayman: $50 Elebits: $50 TP: $50
With tax that's $499....not too shabby actually. I might end up only getting two games, we'll see how the cash flow is
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 14, 2006, 10:42:19 AM
$250 Wii console $50 Trauma Center $50 Red Steel $50 Rayman $50 Zelda $50 Excite Truck $50 Monkey Ball $150 other crap i can't think of at the moment ----------------------- $600 = PS3
That's my game plan.
i'll have to lock this thread for it's DUR factor.
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Post by: ShyGuy on September 14, 2006, 10:48:03 AM
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 14, 2006, 10:50:31 AM
What I find ironic is that the cheapest next gen console is also the most expensive Nintendo system to date.
I actually never looked at the controller issue since I never buy more than one controller (lone gamer... ), but yeah I agree that 60 dollars for a whole controller set is a rip off.
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Post by: wandering on September 14, 2006, 10:53:07 AM
Quote Nintendo expects that everyone will want to own their own controller. That's Japanese logic which absolutely will NOT fly here in the US.
It might have more to do with their non-gamer strategy. Get grandma her own controller instead of a whole console.
Quote What I find ironic is that the cheapest next gen console is also the most expensive Nintendo system to date.
We probably should have expected this, it was the same situation with the $150 DS.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 11:03:50 AM
My dream bundle:
Wii: $250 Extra full controller: $50 (I'm not splitting hairs over ten dollars. Besides, if it was a bundle, it would work that way) Twilight Princess: $50 Excite Truck: $50
$400, like the Gamecube bundle I got at launch.
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Post by: decoyman on September 14, 2006, 11:12:33 AM
Unfortunately, $250 is enough higher than $199, at least perceptually, that I've been shot down by the wife. No Wii for Mii. At least not for awhile.
(Well, I'm not totally counting it out yet, but... well, I've got my work cut out for me in convincing her that it's a good idea.)
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Post by: wandering on September 14, 2006, 11:18:15 AM
Get her to a demo kiosk!
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Post by: WalkingTheCow on September 14, 2006, 11:25:00 AM
224.99 for the system 35.99 for extra controller 17.99 for extra nunchuck 44.99 for Rayman 44.99 for Zelda 44.99 for Redsteel. . . maybe. . . I'm waiting for the reviews on that one.
That comes to $413.94
Reduced prices because of employee discount. I actually have reason to hope I'll get 20% off instead of the 10% listed above. That would make it $367.94
I'm hoping to get away like a bandit.
(also, thank goodness for Oregon state and lack of any sales tax.)
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Post by: decoyman on September 14, 2006, 11:25:35 AM
Yes... Yes, she will be converted.
She, too, will become a true believer. /molarum (sp?)
EDIT: Ok, just for fun!
$250 Wii! $40 Extra Wiimote (for the wifey in WiiSports) $50 Zelda: TP $50 Red Steel
$390+tax = $418.28
... (looks at total) ... Yeah, it's better if I don't add it up.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 14, 2006, 11:44:31 AM
"It might have more to do with their non-gamer strategy. Get grandma her own controller instead of a whole console."
Why does grandma need her own controller if she doesn't have the console? Wouldn't it be more likely that whoever owned the console would own the controllers? Ideally for every console sold there should at most four controllers sold. I think Nintendo's plan is to remove that limitation so that each person that plays a console has a controller. A family of six has six controllers instead of just four like they normally would have. The problem is that only a total idiot would fall for something like that. Can you honestly see someone buying their kid a redundant controller? Or ANYONE without a Wii themselves buying one? I can't, even with non-gamers eating this thing up. It's like trying to sell individual seatbelts with the idea being that everyone has their own and brings it with them to whatever vehicle they ride in.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on September 14, 2006, 12:15:21 PM
Wii 250 Wiimote 40 Nunchuck 20 Zelda 50
360 dollars. Which I already have saved. Might throw in Red Steel, too, which would be 410 plus tax, about 442.8 altogether. I should be able to manage that. I'll probably request another Wiimote/Nunchuck or two for Christmas, and a game. Either BIG DAMN TRUCKS or something else (Warioware?). We'll see.
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Post by: RickPowers on September 14, 2006, 12:23:08 PM
Quote Originally posted by: decoyman Unfortunately, $250 is enough higher than $199, at least perceptually, that I've been shot down by the wife. No Wii for Mii. At least not for awhile.
(Well, I'm not totally counting it out yet, but... well, I've got my work cut out for me in convincing her that it's a good idea.)
Do what I do. Shuffle small amounts of money into a Paypal account until you have enough to get what you want. When that doesn't work, sell something ... like blood, or organs.
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Post by: Arbok on September 14, 2006, 12:29:42 PM
Wii = $250 Zelda: TP = $50 Red Steel (depending on reviews) = $50 Memory Card = ...*shrugs*
Total: $350+ Not bad, not great. Either Red Steel or Zelda might be pushed tell after launch, but I plan to get that "package" of stuff by the end of the year.
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: decoyman on September 14, 2006, 12:30:12 PM
eBay Organs™... service beginning November 18!
"Bid on kidneys, hearts, lungs, even brains! Whatever "It" is... It's on eBay!"
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: Strell on September 14, 2006, 12:34:11 PM
Can I sell my Wang?
It has multiple uses.
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Post by: Davideo on September 14, 2006, 01:44:21 PM
I am willing to bet that they will offer a "controller package" at most stores for $49.99. I think they only listed the 19.99 nunchuck incase you needed to replace a broken one. I'm also willing to bet that most stores will also have sales during the holidays on accessory products, since those are already so high of a markup that you should be able to get those pretty cheap.
::fingers crossed::
Also, has any other company signed on to make the actual remote yet? Not that I'd buy it, but i'm just curious.
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Post by: RickPowers on September 14, 2006, 01:47:28 PM
I'd be willing to bet that due to the technology involved, you won't see a third-party controller of anything other than the "Classic" controller.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on September 14, 2006, 01:51:35 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666i'll have to lock this thread for it's DUR factor.
"IF FIND dissenting opinion, THEN mock irreverently, REPEAT"
You, sir, are an "if-then" statement.
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane It's like trying to sell individual seatbelts with the idea being that everyone has their own and brings it with them to whatever vehicle they ride in.
Completely agree.
Unless the Wiimote serves some sort of function which it can perform independent of the console, then the idea that everyone will buy their own Wiimote even though there are already 4 which connect to the console is not only unrealistic but also greedy on Nintendo's part.
The Wii may be the next iPod, but that doesn't mean people will carry the controller around like a fashion accessory.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on September 14, 2006, 01:53:10 PM
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Post by: Spak-Spang on September 14, 2006, 01:59:04 PM
Who much do you get for donating Plasma in Texas? Where do you go? It might be worth it for me.
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Post by: ShyGuy on September 14, 2006, 02:15:21 PM
Quote Originally posted by: WalkingTheCow
(also, thank goodness for Oregon state and lack of any sales tax.)
We don't cotton to no Oregonians around here.
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Post by: Donutt007 on September 14, 2006, 02:22:49 PM
I'm sure you can try donating "something" else....I've heard you get about $50-$100 each time.
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 14, 2006, 05:57:53 PM
I don't think my wife wants another me running around that isn't from her.
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: wandering on September 14, 2006, 06:13:52 PM
I just thought of something. And by 'thought of something', I mean 'read somewhere else and realised that it was true.' Trauma Center is being published by Atlus, and will disappear quickly. So add another launch game to my list. Good thing, too, as it'll be a good demonstration game.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2006, 06:18:59 PM
I can just imagine buying Wiimotes for many of my relatives during a christmas gathering. I would love to see their experessions LOL
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Post by: Athrun Zala on September 14, 2006, 08:22:07 PM
hmm.....let's see... Wii: ~$450
if I someone goes to the US and can get me one (chances: 0.1%): Wii: $250 Wiimote+Nunchuck: $60 Zelda: $50 Rayman: $50 --------------------------------- Total: $410
so you were complaining about the price? Remember that the US is where this things are cheapest, so think that in the rest of the world people have to pay more, even DOUBLE, before you complain about a $50 raise
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Post by: Kairon on September 14, 2006, 08:42:33 PM
I've sorta worked out my revised budget and threw in tax. I've been saving for this moment over 3 years, so you KNOW I'm going all out. Observe:
RRR 49.99 Red Steel 49.99 Metal Slug Anthology 49.99 Zelda: TP 49.99 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 49.99 Call of Duty 3 49.99 Trauma Center: SO 49.99 Zelda: TP (GC) 49.99 Madden NFL 07 49.99
------------------------------- 879.84
Rechargable Batteries ~40
------------------------------- 919.84
8.5 % sales tax ~78.19
------------------------------- $998.03
Changes from previous plans:
Wii Sports: Now packed-in with console Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Added to list of titles I'm buying Wario Ware: No longer launching in Launch Window Final Fantasy: CC: No longer launching in Launch Window Wii Music: No longer launching in Launch Window Batteries: Now budgeted for
Hmm... now when my roommate pays me back the life savings I lent him for his car, ... I'll need just 200 dollars to reach my goal!
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Edit: I am also considering purchasing Marvel: Ultimate Alliance...hmmm
Edit 2: Removed Wario Ware since it's not a 2006 title and replaced it with Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Also removed VC purchase as I have not heard of the exiostence of any 5000 point card in America, nor a free classic controller if I buy such a card
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Post by: couchmonkey on September 15, 2006, 07:52:54 AM
Okay, I'll buy a Wii, probably three nunchucks (still not sure on final Canadian pricing) and then: -Zelda -Rayman -Excite Truck -Super Monkey Ball -Red Steel -Metal Slug -possibly more?
Depending on Canadian prices that could be like $830. I do still have to buy a PS3 so I'm going to have to weigh the game lineup carefully, or else I'll have to buy just one or two controllers, in which case Monkey Ball and Excite Truck suddenly become less necessary. Too many decisions!
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: wandering on September 15, 2006, 09:38:13 PM
I'm realizing more and more that there's no way I'm walking away with just Zelda and an extra controller, so here's an updated list: Wii - $250 3 wiimotes - $120 (getting a four player round of Wii Sports going over thanksgiving would be kind of neat) Red Steel - $50 (will probably get pressured into this) 2 nunchakus - $40 (for Red Steel) Zelda: TP- $50 Trauma Center: Second Opinion -$50 (because it will likely disappear, and I'm really excited for it, anyway.) Wiiponts - $20
total: $600 or so.
Ouch. We'll call that my upper limit. So somewhere between $350-$600 for me.
Title: RE: Knowing what you know now...
Post by: Kairon on September 15, 2006, 10:26:16 PM
Wandering, as much as I want to cheer you on for buying third parties, you don't need to buy Red Steel just to fit in! You're beautiful just the way you are!
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: zakkiel on September 16, 2006, 07:39:06 AM
No. Wihout RS, he is ugly and inadequate. Only by making this purchase can he be validated and accepted.
Pressure him. Pressure him!
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Post by: Artimus on September 16, 2006, 09:15:07 AM
I guess I've decided to grind hard and not spend any money I don't have to between now and then. I'll be getting one at launch.
Unfortunately this means I can only get one game, and that is the tricky part. I actually think I'll pass on Zelda at launch (unless they do the gold disk again...I'd be a sucker for that). I'll get that at Christmas as a gift. It also makes sense because I have several papers due and exams the month immediately after launch, so an epic game isn't best for that time. I actually may end up playing WiiSports more than I expected (golf and boxing have me really excited...). I'm now leaning towards Rayman, Trauma Center, Red Steel or Monkey Ball. I won't be buying another controller right away, either. Hopefully I can catch up at Christmas.
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Post by: 18 Days on September 16, 2006, 09:19:00 AM
I don't know how you boys are all caught unprepared for this. I've been putting $100 AUS away every month ALL YEAR.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 17, 2006, 05:48:16 PM
Well here is my final list for what I'm getting at launch since I just got done preordering the games:
Wii system=250$ Wiimote/nunchuck x2=120 Component cable=30$? Not sure Elebits=50$ Red Steel=50$ Rayman=50$ Zelda=50$
So a grand total of 600$. This will be the first time EVER that I am getting more 3rd party games than nintendo published or developed games.
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Post by: Ceric on September 17, 2006, 07:16:11 PM
Got to page 2 got bored haven't finished reading. Thanks you Rhoq for the formatting.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subtotal………………………………………………….......…...$459.94 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9.25% Sales Tax………………………………………..………..$42.55 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grand Total…………………………………………………........$502.49
Games I'll rent from Gamefly first: Excite Truck, Project H.A.M.M.E.R.,Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (I was actually going to buy this one but I want those two more and $502.49 is about a month worth of expenses.)
(Athrun Zala: If you want to send me the money for Shipping and getting it for you I'll pick it up for you. )
Edit: I could save 42.55 if I went with Amazon. Even with Same day shipping it could be cheaper to order online. lol. I love living in a sales tax state /sarcasm
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Post by: couchmonkey on September 18, 2006, 05:48:44 AM
Having heard Canadian pricing for the console I'm now going on the assumption that controllers will cost $75-$80 here (ouch!), plus my savings are a little low, so I will be scaling back my game selection.
I'm thinking three controllers plus Zelda and Rayman for sure. I need the controllers so I can have a WiiParty, I'll rent games. After that I'll get the highest-reviewed game out of: Super Monkey Ball, Tony Hawk, Red Steel, Elebits or Excite Truck.
If controllers are $75, that will be about $685 CAN, which is about my limit. Unless I make a bundle on PS3s on Ebay.
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Post by: Caliban on September 18, 2006, 06:35:34 AM
couchmonkey > Ummm you don't have to buy 3 extra controllers, most likely you will have friends that will end up having a Wii...however, I bet you will have to get at least 1 extra nunchuck/remote controller, and 2 VC controllers.
I haven't made a budget list for myself yet because I still want more official details in regards to Canadian prices, and I want to see an official launch game list too.
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Post by: thejeek on September 18, 2006, 07:36:10 AM
I'm still debating wether to buy a Wii - I'm annoyed that: - I'd be paying more than the rest of the world (here in UK) - Nothing in the launch line-up really excites me. - It's hardly cheaper than the X360, which (although I don't actually want one) seems to contain much more hardware for the money - If I want to get my (non gaming) friends to play on it, either me or they are gonna have to stump up a load more money for additional controllers - I have serious worries that the controller might turn out to be pants
I have hedged my bets though and pre-ordered one anyway - if I do get one, I think Super Monkey Ball and Wii Sports will have to keep me going until MP3 is out, unless any of the launch titles turn out to be very much better than they currently look.
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Post by: Athrun Zala on September 18, 2006, 08:51:00 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ceric (Athrun Zala: If you want to send me the money for Shipping and getting it for you I'll pick it up for you. )
sadly, that's not an option, as I would get raped by customs (80% of (product price + S&H)....which would end being about the same), which does not happen if one comes from a trip with it (hence the "if someone goes to the US...")
but lots of thanks for actually considering it
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Post by: OverHeat on September 18, 2006, 09:15:24 AM
For launch, at least, mine is going to have to be;
This is, of course, pre-wife. Once she gets ahold of this list, it will be gutted in a most painful manner, rest assured. *wimper*
edit: The (for now) means, I will be happy with just one more controller for now.
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Post by: AnyoneEB on September 18, 2006, 10:35:26 AM
Uh, are you really expecting a US$50 component cable? I would expect $25-$30.
1 Wii (including WiiSports) $249.99 1 Component video cable $29.99 3 WiiMote $119.97 1 Zelda $49.99 1 Super Monkey Ball $49.99 1 Dragon Quest? $49.99 1 Tony Hawk PS? $49.99 Subtotal $599.91 Sales Tax (8%) $4.80 Total $604.71
(I have question marks after DQ and THPS because they look interesting, but I have not heard much about them. I may or may not get them pending reviews.) Also, I may consider additional Nunchuks, but I do not think the multiplayer games I have listed will require them... and $600 sounds like a good launch day spending limit to me. (I think I spent $500-$550 for GCN launch for 4 controllers + extensions + a few games.)