Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 11, 2006, 11:20:45 AM
* Castlevania
* Duck Hunt
* Excitebike
* F-Zero
* Kid Icarus
* Legend of Zelda, The
* Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
* Mario Kart 64
* Metroid
* Mortal Kombat
* New Adventure Island
* Ninja Gaiden
* OutRun
* Pac-Man
* Prince of Persia
* Punch-Out
* R-Type
* Rayman 2
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Star Fox
* Super Mario 64
* Super Mario Bros
* Super Mario Kart
* Super Mario World
* Tecmo Bowl
And 5 unknown/brand new games.
source: http://www.play-nintendo.com/news/06090902.html
Post by: JonLeung on September 11, 2006, 11:36:18 AM
Personally, I would hope that it would have closer to 50 for a start, spanning not only the various consoles included but also the various genres.
Now, will Mortal Kombat be the Super NES one with the good controls, or the Genesis one with blood and more gruesome fatalities? I don't see why we would have to have only one, or one or the other. Why not a special version of Mortal Kombat with Super NES graphics and controls but including Genesis gore?
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 11, 2006, 11:41:12 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 11, 2006, 11:47:19 AM
"Now, will Mortal Kombat be the Super NES one with the good controls, or the Genesis one with blood and more gruesome fatalities? I don't see why we would have to have only one, or one or the other. Why not a special version of Mortal Kombat with Super NES graphics and controls but including Genesis gore?"
How about neither. I'd want an arcade port. MKII was great on the SNES but both versions of the first MK on consoles sucked. If they went to the trouble to make a special version why stop at just combining the two? Go all out and make an arcade perfect version with console port features like tournaments and vs. mode and stuff like that.
Post by: JonLeung on September 11, 2006, 12:16:02 PM
And about Ian's response to my question about Mortal Kombat - yeah, arcade ports would be nice. I could actually see that happening with certain games, MK included.
Nintendo and MAME...now that would be unlikely, but orgasmic if ever possible.
Post by: Bartman3010 on September 11, 2006, 01:10:32 PM
Post by: JonLeung on September 11, 2006, 03:31:54 PM
I think the list is kind of a given...it's hard to say the source is wrong. Maybe wrong in the sense that it was just made up, but the reason why I wouldn't say it's outright wrong is that those games are likely to show up on the Wii at some point.
(It's kind of like if I guess the Wii launch date before Nintendo announces it and just happens to be correct just by coincidence. I'd be right, but the source is iffy, since it was just a guess with no official connection. However, right is right...isn't it?)
There are lots of other games that we all expect to see, and I'm sure a lot of the big-name games will make it. If the VC is successful (and I have no doubt) then it's really a question of if they'll have games from particular dead companies, or those that require special hardware (like Gyromite's R.O.B.).
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 11, 2006, 03:34:17 PM
Post by: JonLeung on September 11, 2006, 03:43:31 PM
Maybe because I've played nearly all of them before? Some several times over that I'm not sure I'd even download them? That could be it. There's already 26 in that list, before adding the 5 apparently all-new games. 31. Fifty honestly isn't a lot more IMO.
Depending on how many games they can eventually get their hands on, fifty may actually be a really small fraction. Considering the NES library has about 700 official games, and then there's the Super NES, Genesis, TurboGrafx 16, Nintendo 64...(you know, they really should get the Master System and Neo-Geo in there too, IMO...) And even if they can't get them all, there will still be a lot of totally new games. I'm actually kind of surprised there are already five.
Again, assuming this is true.
Post by: JonLeung on September 11, 2006, 06:05:10 PM
Altered Beast
Ecco The Dolphin
Columns
Golden Axe
Ristar
Sonic the Hedgehog
Toe Jam & Earl
Something about them added to the ESRB web site. Though I thought some of these would've had an ESRB rating already (because of rereleases, and I'm sure Ristar was K-A which is the equivalent of E now)...unless the point was that ESRB said they were for the Wii somehow...I didn't really look at the details, but I provided the link above.
Post by: WalkingTheCow on September 12, 2006, 12:49:11 AM
And yes Jon. If you go to their site they have a search by platform option. These games are listed in the Wii section. So the list at the top of this thread is, at the very least, incomplete, if not completely bogus.
Post by: Ceric on September 12, 2006, 04:23:40 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 12, 2006, 12:33:21 PM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 12, 2006, 01:10:15 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 12, 2006, 01:59:21 PM
Well it still probably is considering most launches are small. Unless you count the entire Playstation or Gameboy library as part of the PS2 or GBA launch lineup.
Post by: Kairon on September 12, 2006, 02:42:28 PM
Iansane DEFENDING a paltry Nintendo VC launch list?
THE HORROR! OH THE HORROR! *faint*
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: Ceric on September 12, 2006, 03:21:03 PM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 12, 2006, 03:50:33 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
Wait a minute, I thought that the Wii was touting the largest launch lineup not just the VC aspect of it.
No, they were saying that because of the virtual console, it was going to have the biggest launch lineup in history.
Post by: Ceric on September 12, 2006, 04:09:16 PM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on September 12, 2006, 04:17:42 PM
Post by: norebonomis on September 12, 2006, 05:37:50 PM
Post by: JonLeung on September 14, 2006, 04:42:00 AM
Who called the monthly thing? I think I did. Oh!
...Oh, wait, maybe that was in another topic. >_<
Also, MSX games now. So now we'll get alternate versions of CastleVania and Metal Gear...yay? I didn't think the MSX had too much else. Supposedly Dragon Quest. Does it have anything that we haven't seen a version of on the NES?
EDIT: Oh, yeah, forgot the Dragon Slayer games. Prequels to Legacy Of The Wizard, kinda (well, Legacy Of The Wizard was Dragon Slayer IV, I think). Now that was a good game.
Post by: Strell on September 14, 2006, 06:00:32 AM
To this day I can't get anywhere in that damn game.
I always ended up in places I couldn't get back out of.
Post by: IceCold on October 19, 2006, 01:42:50 PM
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NES games Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr. and Pinball have been approved and rated "G". F-Zero, Simcity and Super Mario World - all rated "G" - will be the first titles to represent the SNES on Australia's version of Virtual Console. Games for other classic systems like Nintendo 64 and Sega Genesis were not listed.
Twenty Virtual Console titles are expected to release in Australia before the end of 2006, with ten new titles added to the service each month beginning in January 2007.
Post by: Ian Sane on October 19, 2006, 02:11:51 PM
And the crummy three level version of Donkey Kong that should have been fixed when it was localized for the NES continues to live. I swear that a hundred years from now when everyone who lived in 1980s is dead history will have forgotten that a fourth screen ever existed. An old arcade unit will be found in storage somewhere and it will be like when people discover prints of films previously thought to be lost.
Post by: JonLeung on October 19, 2006, 02:58:03 PM
Because you keep bringing it up. :P
Post by: Kairon on October 19, 2006, 03:37:18 PM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: zakkiel on October 24, 2006, 03:28:35 PM
Iwata-san says:
Quote(This is on the subject of the "Shopping Channel," or VC interface.)
Well, allow me to explain, since this is something I started. Basically, I want to expand the range of prices at which games are sold. For example, Nintendo's approach until about 5 years ago, was to generally sell software at prices around MSRP of 4800 yen for handheld games and about a MSRP of 6800 yen for home console games. Now I think that this approach might have been wrong. Frankly speaking, if all home console titles are sold at a MSRP of 6800 yen, then a simple game like Tetris would never see the light of day on this format. I mean, I don't think our customers would shell out up to 6800 yen just for Tetris. So, can we justify selling Tetris at this price by adding thirty new game modes, or by adding some fancy movies? In short, we can't, and that's a problem. Another issue was, development costs naturally vary depending on the size of the team and time period needed to develop a game, and money people are willing to pay for a game varies depending on the total play time and difficulty level, but the game price points were more or less the same all the time. Of course, some people think that the price of software should decrease over time. However, long-term price cuts aside, if you lower the price of your software in too short of a cycle, people who have already purchased that software will feel cheated. This is something I want to avoid. In that sense, I feel it would be better for softwares to be released at a range of prices that's appropriate for the software right from the start. Nevertheless, you'll never be able to set a price lower than the standard if you try to sell a game using existing means of distribution. That is, as long as this is a business in which you have the added cost of making ROMs and discs to sell. Shops won't make a profit if you make your title too cheap, meaning that they won't stock it, and at the very least, the maker can't set the price lower than the cost of the media format. There are little games which are great fun but don't take long to complete. As things stand, it's impossible to, for example, sell these for 1000 yen. These ideas just die on the vine, and I've always wondered if there might be some way to save them. Although we're currently trying to introduce a variety of MSRP prices into the Nintendo DS line-up, this is really something that I've been talking about within the company for a while, isn't it?
So a big raspberry to you, whoever you were!
Edit: To make it clearer that Nintendo is seriously considering indie games on the VC:
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Talking of potential, we may even be able to create an opportunity for amateur developers where they can release games that they have made, although this will be hard to do in the immediate future. The mechanics of the games industry at the moment doesn't allow games to be sold unless they're widely advertised by major publishers to earn greater profit. This seals off gateways into the game industry for new talents.
