Post by: Aussiedude on September 07, 2006, 03:02:09 AM
According to NGamer latest edition the Wiimote wont have rumble. Ive seen the scan and its true.Quote
according to shiggsy the loverly little speaker has now replaced rumble!
EDIT: totally false, NGamer were wrong.
LOCK Thread, NGamer have stated there mag was wrong and have appologised
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Spore Wii-DS? Wii Remote rumble-free? No, no, NO.
There are mistakes in every issue of NGamer, of course. Remember when it looked like we'd announced a Nintendo DS training game for people called Brian? How we laughed.
This month's clangers:
1. Wii-DS connectivity for EA's mighty Spore? Considering that the game isn't even announced for Wii, this is at best 'wishful thinking' and at worst 'a very, very stupid thing to say'.
2. No Wii Remote rumble? Kittsy spotted that I'd made a mess of page 15 just after we finished the mag. It was too late to correct and resend the page to the printers (apparently yelling "Hold the presses!" doesn't actually result in boiler-suited workmen running about like mad and machinery grinding to a halt). So we forget about it, assuming the worst that might happen is that a few readers might write in to point and laugh at our mistake. Of course, now it's all over the internet. And we look very silly indeed. So, to clarify: the Wiimote does have a rumble. And a speaker. Shigsy isn't going to kick out either feature (as far as we know). DON'T PANIC.
Oh, and the bit about Wii Virtual Console DRM in our free book can be filed under 'informed speculation' rather than 'hard fact', too.
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Post by: wandering on September 07, 2006, 03:12:44 AM
Post by: Aussiedude on September 07, 2006, 03:19:44 AM
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Originally posted by: wandering
Um. You have a link to this here scan?
There is a link in here to mag scan
Post by: Artimus on September 07, 2006, 03:41:07 AM
Post by: Aussiedude on September 07, 2006, 03:45:25 AM
Obviously rumble is now no longer important.
Post by: Nile Boogie on September 07, 2006, 03:56:12 AM
Post by: Aussiedude on September 07, 2006, 04:04:19 AM
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
But its GoNintendo, are they ever right?
Exact wording from mag scan
"The rumour mill has claimed that the Wii remote will have a rumble motor inside it- but Shigsy HIMSELF claims that this option was thrown out in favour of that loverly little speaker."
rumour part: "The rumour mill has claimed that the Wii remote will have a rumble motor inside it"
Fact part: "but Shigsy HIMSELF claims that this option was thrown out in favour of that loverly little speaker."
Post by: wandering on September 07, 2006, 04:04:39 AM
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Vibrate-me-do
The rumor mill has claimed that the Wii remote will have a rumble motor inside it - but Shigsy himself claims that this option was thrown out in favour of that lovely little speaker.
Rumour mill? Rumble is an advertised feature!
I'm betting, especially with that tagline at the top, that they meant it the other way around: that no rumble was the thing that was rumored, and that Miyamoto says otherwise.
Off-topic: that 6kb of internal memory sounds snazzy.
Post by: Aussiedude on September 07, 2006, 04:19:24 AM
Post by: Mario on September 07, 2006, 04:24:25 AM
Post by: Aussiedude on September 07, 2006, 04:29:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
I go out of my way to turn rumble off, so this is good news for me (if true), no more worries. I think it'd drain too much battery too.
likewise, but rumble is useful for some games like warioware and Mario party. However the speaker could to some degree replace this. However, based on Nintendo's page it looks like NGamer is talking crap.
Post by: wandering on September 07, 2006, 04:36:20 AM
But if this does turn out to be true (SPIN CONTROL), at least the controller's disturbing resemblance to a sex toy will be lessened.
Post by: couchmonkey on September 07, 2006, 05:01:36 AM
If this were true, it would be a disappointment, but not a huge one. My issue with Sony is that they acted like they were taking it out to "fit" motion control, and I think that's BS. If Nintendo acts like it took it out to "fit" the speaker, that's BS too. On the other hand, if I was told it was to save battery life, at least that's a plausible, if not very glamorous, excuse.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 07, 2006, 06:17:58 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on September 07, 2006, 06:42:30 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on September 07, 2006, 06:53:32 AM
I'm still buying a Wii
Post by: Ian Sane on September 07, 2006, 07:37:45 AM
I hope they still have it on the classic controller for the N64 games. It's not that big of a deal but it would nice to include it to ensure that you're not losing any of the experience by playing on the VC instead of a real N64. Plus I've always wanted to play N64 games with rumble without having to deal with the stupid battery powered rumble pack.
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 07, 2006, 07:59:30 AM
Which is why I call bull on this, and why I think it'll have both.
Post by: WindyMan on September 07, 2006, 08:17:19 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 07, 2006, 09:01:32 AM
Imagine driving a knife into someone's chest (in game, of course). If the Wiimote doesn't rumble, then you'll just feel like you're stabbing the air. The rumble would be necessary to simulate resistance, something the Wiimote just doesn't have without it and a big part of the immersion.
If anything, the Wiimote NEEDS rumble far more than the PS3 controller because it can't simulate the handle of a weapon or gun without applying some kind of force to the person holding it.
Post by: mantidor on September 07, 2006, 09:03:57 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 07, 2006, 09:12:01 AM
You can put tiny speakers in just about anything these days, and unless the speaker is CONSTANTLY ON, it won't be drawing battery power so that's no excuse.
Post by: eljefe on September 07, 2006, 09:12:28 AM
Mabye on Wii2
Anyway, this no-rumble rumour seems fake. We'll see
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 07, 2006, 09:34:22 AM
Post by: Adrock on September 07, 2006, 09:43:32 AM
Also, I was hoping the classic controller would have rumble and a speaker. I'm probably going to use the classic controller for Brawl. I can think of nothing more satisfying than punching Pikachu in the face and hearing it yelp in pain right in front of me while feeling the force of my character's fist devastating Pikachu at the same time.
Post by: Ceric on September 07, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
Post by: King of Twitch on September 07, 2006, 10:40:53 AM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 07, 2006, 11:00:47 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 07, 2006, 11:17:00 AM
Post by: RickPowers on September 07, 2006, 11:23:41 AM
The 6KB of memory in the controller is a known quantity ... what wasn't known was what it was for. Originally, it was thought to be for sounds, but it now seems like personal preferences (and possibly your own Wii Sports player) will be stored there. This idea is bolstered by the appearance of controller sleeves and cases designed to let you carry your personal controller with you. I've seen some made by BD&A, who happens to be the company that makes much of the official Nintendo logo merchandise you might see.
Post by: Caterkiller on September 07, 2006, 11:24:42 AM
But I know there are people who really don't want this feature to be done away with. And with the Wii it has much more potential to be super immersive. Imagine playing a game where your character needs to reach out and grab something. The only thing that comes to mind right now is the little scene where Luigi opens a door in the mansion. I imagine motioning my hand to reach for the door knob, and the door starts to shake, giving you some sort of warning. Along with the shaking on the screen you feel what Luigi is feeling. Small example, but yopu get the idea.
For all of us, its nothing new or super exciting. I remember demonstraiting the Rumble Pack to friends a long time ago. These were people who don't play games, but when they felt the controller shake as they crashed down playing Star Fox 64, they were excited. Of course they still don't play games, but when antigamers feel something like that for the first time when playing the wii im sure they will love it.
Post by: wandering on September 07, 2006, 12:37:50 PM
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but when they felt the controller shake as they crashed down playing Star Fox 64, they were excited.
ah, playing star fox 64 with rumble for the first time.
Good times.
Post by: Smoke39 on September 07, 2006, 12:48:51 PM
Post by: RickPowers on September 07, 2006, 01:09:03 PM
In fact, now the rumor of DVD playback being nixed leads me to believe that Nintendo is trying to aggressively cut costs, since the license for DVD playback is an easily avoided fixed cost. Still, the business person in me keeps saying that since the DVD playback would have only been possible through an add-on, you could pass on the cost that way, but there must have been another cost component.
Still, unlike DVD playback, rumble is still featured in the marketing materials. Also considering that there was a time when both were present, I wonder when this decision was made.
Post by: Kairon on September 07, 2006, 01:15:16 PM
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 07, 2006, 01:36:35 PM
WHAT?? Oh, man! That's one of the things I PRAISED Nintendo about doing with the then Revolution in the first place. Nintendo needs to realize that having a cheap console doesn't mean squat if everything is compromised to get it. People want good value, not just a low price.
Post by: Kairon on September 07, 2006, 01:42:27 PM
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Kairon@aol.com
Post by: wandering on September 07, 2006, 01:42:33 PM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 07, 2006, 01:50:42 PM
Post by: Caliban on September 07, 2006, 01:51:46 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 07, 2006, 01:55:20 PM
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but when they felt the controller shake as they crashed down playing Star Fox 64, they were excited.
ah, playing star fox 64 with rumble for the first time.
I so remember that! It is funny how things that once were so exciting are now only minor to games.
Post by: Caliban on September 07, 2006, 02:54:37 PM
Post by: JonLeung on September 07, 2006, 03:03:00 PM
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Originally posted by: wanderingQuote
but when they felt the controller shake as they crashed down playing Star Fox 64, they were excited.
ah, playing star fox 64 with rumble for the first time.
I so remember that! It is funny how things that once were so exciting are now only minor to games.
I miss finishing off Macbeth by hitting the eight switches and slamming Mechbeth into the arms factory or whatever that was. Biggest force feedback moment in the first major home console game to have force feedback. That's one for the history books.
And yet I bet most people didn't know the Macbeth boss's name is Mechbeth.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 07, 2006, 03:13:15 PM
SPANUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUND
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 07, 2006, 03:17:47 PM
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I miss finishing off Macbeth by hitting the eight switches and slamming Mechbeth into the arms factory or whatever that was. Biggest force feedback moment in the first major home console game to have force feedback. That's one for the history books.
YES. Hitting those switches was also one of the most exciting gaming moments for me, too, actually. In fact, Star Fox 64 remains one of my favorite games ever, up there with Zelda. SO AWESOME.
Post by: Shecky on September 07, 2006, 05:43:56 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 07, 2006, 10:06:03 PM
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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
YES. Hitting those switches was also one of the most exciting gaming moments for me, too, actually. In fact, Star Fox 64 remains one of my favorite games ever, up there with Zelda. SO AWESOME.
Wow, that takes me back...
Yeah, SF64 was all about making sure that each explosion was bigger than the last.
Post by: Nephilim on September 08, 2006, 12:01:47 AM
ign has a trauma center interview from only a day ago
"IGN Wii: Will the controller rumble while you operate?
Tomm: The controller does rumble while you operate"
DUH, stop trusting blog sites for news/rumours ppl
Post by: Caliban on September 08, 2006, 12:52:14 PM
I'm going to stop trusting PGC too, they also post rumours. /sarcasm
Post by: Aussiedude on September 08, 2006, 02:18:25 PM
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Spore Wii-DS? Wii Remote rumble-free? No, no, NO.
There are mistakes in every issue of NGamer, of course. Remember when it looked like we'd announced a Nintendo DS training game for people called Brian? How we laughed.
This month's clangers:
1. Wii-DS connectivity for EA's mighty Spore? Considering that the game isn't even announced for Wii, this is at best 'wishful thinking' and at worst 'a very, very stupid thing to say'.
2. No Wii Remote rumble? Kittsy spotted that I'd made a mess of page 15 just after we finished the mag. It was too late to correct and resend the page to the printers (apparently yelling "Hold the presses!" doesn't actually result in boiler-suited workmen running about like mad and machinery grinding to a halt). So we forget about it, assuming the worst that might happen is that a few readers might write in to point and laugh at our mistake. Of course, now it's all over the internet. And we look very silly indeed. So, to clarify: the Wiimote does have a rumble. And a speaker. Shigsy isn't going to kick out either feature (as far as we know). DON'T PANIC.
Oh, and the bit about Wii Virtual Console DRM in our free book can be filed under 'informed speculation' rather than 'hard fact', too.
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