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Title: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Ceric on July 24, 2006, 12:00:26 PM
I picked all those up.  Which do you think should get my time first.  I like to do a level in each and then I'm going to settle into B G&E because it needs to go back.  Any tips for a first timer in these?  
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: vudu on July 24, 2006, 12:08:40 PM
I'd do Eternal Darkness last.  It has a lot of atmosphere (some say that's all it has) and really demands that you take your time while playing.  I haven't played Rayman 3, but according to Smash Bro it's a short game, but fun.  Viewtiful Joe is great if you like punishment.  It also has a lot of replay value (you unlock additional fighters after you beat the game) so it might be worthwhile to play that first so you can play it again after you beat the others.  BG&E is also really good, but short.  Don't feel a rush to return it though; like I said, I haven't touched it since I beat it so I'm not in a hurry to get it back.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: ShyGuy on July 24, 2006, 01:11:57 PM
Viewtiful Joe is teh hard, it will make you cry like a little girl.
Title: RE:Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: NuclearSpeed on July 24, 2006, 01:19:56 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Viewtiful Joe is teh hard, it will make you cry like a little girl.


and the squeal like a school girl when you get past a part you were stuck on.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 24, 2006, 07:06:32 PM
I had to give up on VJ out of frustration and repititous gameplay(playing the same level over and over and over and over and over again because I kept dying). I can't get past the level that you are in the building, I get to the end of the level everytime but I die. I will revisit this game at a later date, but for now I don't need the stress.

BG&E was a great game, and while I wouldn't neccessarily call it short(I took my time trying to collect all the pictures), it definately ended before I felt I was done playing the game. Play this after the insanely difficult(but fun) VJ.

PN03..... played the demo, saw nothing worth playing there, spin, shoot, spin, shoot, spin, shoot. atleast thats how the demo played.

Eternal Darkness... This game was good for the atmosphere and the story telling. the control could've used some work, but I did manage to beat it 3 out of 4 times and I got bored somewhere in the 4th run through(gotta beat all four colors).  I would save this one for last, not because its the best(I would give that to BG&E), just because this is the one that would probably take up the most time.

Rayman 3.... never played it, actually haven't played Rayman since his outing on the N64 oh so many years ago. I will pick this one up as soon as I see it in the $20 or less bin.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Ceric on July 24, 2006, 07:29:35 PM
All those where less than 20 each.  PN 03 the little I played is different then the demo.  BG&E takes to much memory.  Rayman has been fun.  Haven't put in Eternal Darkness yet.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: matt oz on July 25, 2006, 08:34:48 AM
Yeah, BG&E takes up a lot of space on the memory card.  It's all those pictures, I think.

I bought Rayman 3 sometime in 2003 for $20.  Played through it once, and that was it.  Never went back to it, for some reason.  I liked Rayman 2 better.

I got stuck in the same level of Viewtiful Joe as BNM, and just traded it on a website for Fire Emblem, which I think was an awesome deal.

ED is another game I never went back to.  Beat it once, and that was it.  Way overhyped, in my opinion.
Title: RE:Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: vudu on July 25, 2006, 09:25:51 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I had to give up on VJ out of frustration and repititous gameplay(playing the same level over and over and over and over and over again because I kept dying). I can't get past the level that you are in the building, I get to the end of the level everytime but I die. I will revisit this game at a later date, but for now I don't need the stress.
You mean Level 2?  That's like getting suck in Desert Land in SMB3.  ... And you call yourself a gamer.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 25, 2006, 09:27:12 AM
weakness abound
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 25, 2006, 09:56:39 AM
Play Rayman 3 when you're in the mood for TONS of platforming, and I mean assloads. The game starts a bit slow, but it picks up and rapidly becomes more about hardcore platforming the further in you go.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Artimus on July 25, 2006, 12:09:11 PM
Play Joe on kids. It's embarassing, but adult is SO DAMN HARD. Kids isn't bad at all, not easy but not impossible.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 25, 2006, 01:20:51 PM
I'll, someday, finish VJ (on adult)......stupid Leo ¬¬
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 25, 2006, 01:28:43 PM
Would you like a spoiler?
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 25, 2006, 01:53:30 PM
not really.....

unless it's a tip
Title: RE:Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2006, 02:36:40 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I had to give up on VJ out of frustration and repititous gameplay(playing the same level over and over and over and over and over again because I kept dying). I can't get past the level that you are in the building, I get to the end of the level everytime but I die. I will revisit this game at a later date, but for now I don't need the stress.
You mean Level 2?  That's like getting suck in Desert Land in SMB3.  ... And you call yourself a gamer.
Its after you fight the multiple Helicopters and you are in the building with all the rooms. And you have to get through the hall way that shoots fire and stuff at you... is that level 2? if so then

besides I get distracted really easily and tend to give up even easier when I know I have another new game to play.
Title: RE:Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: EasyCure on July 25, 2006, 03:29:39 PM
i too gave up on VJ. i think it was the shark boss i couldnt get passed... atleast, thats the last thing i remember. wait, which comes later the shark boss or the i dont remember if this is realy a spoiler, but that guy that looks like joes clone... i dont remember the story for beans....??? i just remember there being a boss i couldnt get passed and after trying for a week i gave up and gave the damn game back to a friend.

hm while we're on the topic if suggesting games. i saw From Russia with Love real cheap at my local retailer, as well as XIII. i've been doing not hing but playing animal crossing (started over after two years of not playing) on my cube and im looking for some new-old games that i missed out on. are either of those two any good? because their pretty cheap... the 007 game didnt even come out that long ago and im sure it was listed as a new copy, not a used one, so i was worried about the low price. although, i did pick up geist and metroid prime to for 8.98 each at a toys r us once so ... i dont know what to think..

any suggestions??
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Ceric on July 25, 2006, 04:20:25 PM
$12 for Wind Waker new at Kmart.  I picked it up for my brother.  Theres $12 dollar of play in their.  (Thats about 25% which happens to be about as much of the game that has nothing to do with water.)
Title: RE:Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Renny on July 25, 2006, 06:57:33 PM
I also gave up in the middle of VJ. I don't know where, exactly. Sometime after Another Joe. I was finding it challenging, but addictive. Then I got distracted by something. I tried to get back into it one day, but it had been so long I was sucking against easy stuff like the helicopter. Gotta try that again someday.

I'm in a similar situation with F-Zero GX. Although all the blame for my departure can be laid solely at the feet of the ass - hole who thought the save file not only needed to be un-copyable due to arcade unlockables, but also un-f*ing-moveable. Asshole.

[Björk registering... anger settling]
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Ceric on July 26, 2006, 04:45:57 AM
They did that with PSO and my card started becoming flacky... 100 hours down the drain.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Mario on July 26, 2006, 05:41:36 AM
VJ isn't hard at all, just find out the pattern for each enemy, kick ass, repeat.

VJ2 however... has some of the most retarded puzzles ever.
Title: RE:Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 26, 2006, 06:44:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
not really.....

unless it's a tip


The falling rocks are there for a reason.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: KDR_11k on July 26, 2006, 07:31:06 AM
Whatever you do, don't start playing P.N.03 or VJ in easy mode.

Pro: Yes but after that, do you prefer to dodge until he's dizzy or just slomo and zoom-uppercut him? Zoom uppercuts seem to do more damage per phase, at least on easy where your VFX energy is abundant. I've found dodging to take way too much effort and the period after that is pretty short.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 26, 2006, 08:15:25 AM
I'll show you what I do (i have it in DivX...) when i get home from work.
Title: RE:Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 26, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
not really.....

unless it's a tip


The falling rocks are there for a reason.
yeah... Machspeed punch the rocks, catch on fire, dodge, kick his ass....but he kicks mine instead, my attacks don't seem to cause much damage....
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 26, 2006, 10:41:03 AM
Then I suppose there's something fundamentally wrong in your approach or execution.  You'll have to see the video as well.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 26, 2006, 06:37:13 PM
MASSIVE DAMAGE
(a couple of you have PMs)

KDR:  I gave up on the Zoom-Uppercut a long time ago since it didn't inflict the damage I needed.  It seemed to get a lot of V-points, but it didn't break anything quickly, especially in the early Hulk Davidson fight where I wanted to break his axe ASAP.

When Fire Leo is dizzy, I aim to inflict a lot of damage in a very short amount of time.  I start by jumping, and while landing I Slow+Zoom to initiate the Foot Stomp.  I maintain Slow+Zoom, and I hold punch to perform the Red Hot One Hundred (RHOH) punch combo while the pink shockwaves from the Stomp are still moving.  I can land 2-3 [very strong] RHOH punches before the shockwaves disappear; at this point I've used up most of Fire Leo's "combo time limit" (as you're aware, you can only do so much damage/hits before the game breaks your sequence).  Instead of maintaining the Slow RHOH, I immediately change it into a Mach-Speed RHOH for the remainder of the combo, because it really will do more damage.

Slow does slightly expand the game's clock, and Mach-Speed slightly compresses the clock.  The Slow RHOH does do more damage per hit than a Mach-Speed RHOH.  But with so little time left for the combo, Slow RHOH's punches take too long to execute, and because the hitting rate drops dramatically once the Stomp's shockwaves are gone, Fire Leo is given more "recovery time" between each Slow RHOH punch to wake up from the combo, so the overall combo will end before you land enough hits.  Therefore, I switch to Mach-Speed RHOH to maximize damage vs. combo duration.  When the combo's finally broken, or I end it early to avoid any mis-hits, I deactivate Zoom
.  
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: KDR_11k on July 27, 2006, 04:23:55 AM
Dunno, it seemed to deplete boss health pretty quickly for me. OTOH I never knew there was such a thing as a "Red Hot 100".
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on July 27, 2006, 05:41:13 AM
Wait.  Why do you want to break Hulk Davidson's axe?  It's easy to dodge, and his most dangerous attack only happens when he doesn't have it.  At least that's how I remember it.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2006, 06:31:54 AM
If you break his axe, he can't swing it.

If he has no axe, he can't block, so there's more opportunities to kick his ass quickly.

I can get triple-V's on Batty, Another Joe, and Fire Leo on Adult, but not on Hulk or Sharky; those two fights have elements that really slow down my fight time.
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 27, 2006, 07:18:18 AM
got the PM, thanks ^^

very interesting tactic, I'll have to give it a try
Title: RE: Ok... I picked up Rayman 3, Viewtiful Joe, Eternal Darkness, PN 03, and Vudu is letting my borrow B G&E
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 28, 2006, 05:50:24 AM
I never wound up beating Viewtiful Joe, I started on Adults because I remembered reading something that Kids and Adults mode were going to be opposite of what you thought they would be, Kids would be Hard and Adults would be Easy (maybe I dreamed this up). I got to Leo and that was the end of VJ for me. I probably left my GC on for weeks at a time just playing the game in between classes, beating bosses and tough spots so I didn''t have to redo anything. Even though I never finished it, it was great while it lasted.