Post by: Mario on June 07, 2006, 03:54:45 AM
Nintendo apparently just held a meeting or something, where they announced Pokemon Battle Revolution for Wii. It will have connectivity with the DS Diamond/Pearl and be released a few months after. Looks like another Stadium from the one pic currently available, i'm happy that they haven't attempted another generic RPG with this (hopefully).
Looks great! Pikachu looks a bit different but the style is definitely interesting
Post by: Dasmos on June 07, 2006, 04:20:50 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 07, 2006, 05:04:07 AM
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Post by: Pale on June 07, 2006, 05:24:36 AM
Also, I wish I had a firm translation of what I'm looking at so I could put it up here...
Post by: cubist on June 07, 2006, 05:36:34 AM
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Post by: Kairon on June 07, 2006, 06:58:17 AM
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Post by: EasyCure on June 07, 2006, 07:03:58 AM
Post by: Pale on June 07, 2006, 07:12:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
God, why do people still talk about a Pokemon MMORPG when there are so many huge daunting challenges that need to be overcome if the game goes in that direction! Blockbuster Traditional MMORPGs take YEARS of development and are the DEVIL to do right!
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Sounds like reason enough that we haven't seen one yet but doesn't prove that one isn't in development
I do agree on some level though. Older PokeGeeks (like me) would want more than Nintendo could deliver anyway. They need kids to play Pokemon, and parents won't be keen on throwing their kids out there to the predators... sexual predators =P So lets not turn this thread into a NiNTENd0 SHULD MAKES TEH MMO POKYMAN thread and instead discuss what can be done to improve the stadium games!
Post by: Requiem on June 07, 2006, 07:26:56 AM
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Post by: Requiem on June 07, 2006, 07:32:29 AM
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you never had a good reason to flame this thread, so whatever
ummm....
What?
Post by: Kairon on June 07, 2006, 07:32:30 AM
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Post by: Kairon on June 07, 2006, 07:37:45 AM
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Post by: Bloodworth on June 07, 2006, 07:43:54 AM
http://www.irwebcasting.com/060607/03/74d18b0400/main/index_hi.htm
Go to slide 70 and then press the third button under the slide to see Pokemon in action.
Post by: Pale on June 07, 2006, 07:44:27 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on June 07, 2006, 08:10:25 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on June 07, 2006, 08:32:14 AM
The MMO stuff is a relatively recent idea. The original game everyone wanted back on the N64 was a 3D Pokemon RPG that played like the Gameboy games with going to gyms, capturing Pokemon, etc. The time to have released this was early in the Cube's life, around 2002 or so. At that point the craze was still reasonably strong and it would have sold Cubes like hotcakes. The Xbox would NEVER have pulled ahead that Christmas if they had this game on the Cube. Instead Pokemon Colloseum came out way too late and although technically an RPG it was completely devoid of all the elements that make Pokemon fun and is one of the most frustratingly bad games I've ever played. Nintendo blew it. They had the perfect killer app and now it's too late for it to quite have the same punch it would have had a few years ago.
Not that they shouldn't ever release such a game. It would still sell really well and every killer game helps. The way Nintendo has handled Pokemon has been very non-Nintendo like. Normally they seem to recognize the importance of making really phenomenal sequels and not relying entirely on a franchise name to attract sales. But with Pokemon they've released all sorts of substandard junk and although Gold/Silver was awesome they phoned it in with the GBA Pokemon games. They've handled Pokemon more like how I would expect EA to handle a franchise.
Pokemon Battle Revolution looks nice anyway and I'm glad they're not doing any BS where the seperate Stadium into two games and try to sell junk like Pokemon Box as a seperate game. I've never liked how Nintendo has handled Pokemon but they did a WAY better job with it during the N64 days than the Cube days so if they're going back to the N64 way of doing things that's an improvement. Plus it's kind of cool that this game is coming out so soon. They've got a lot of stuff in the works for the Wii.
Post by: Requiem on June 07, 2006, 08:38:33 AM
People would train there pokemons for months just so they could compete in the latest and greatest tournament. Add in fantastic prizes if you win, and you not only have a cult following, but also a killer-app on your hands.
Post by: Frozen Atlantic on June 07, 2006, 09:55:23 AM
Now they have the kids version of...um... The Getaway. Not blockbuster, but a solid franchise. They're still blowing it.
MAKE A NORMAL, 30-HOUR POKERPG FOR WII. With a storyline. Sell 2 million of them. Not that difficult.
Post by: Kairon on June 07, 2006, 09:58:47 AM
Pokemon from a game design standpoint is stagnant and tired. Nintendo needs to friggin innovate a little with the core series.
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Post by: Ian Sane on June 07, 2006, 10:07:58 AM
In Japan yeah. And by regular videogame standards such a game would still be a killer app. But Pokemon used to be a mainstream killer app in North America. It was one of those games that EVERYONE was somewhat familiar with even if they didn't play it.
"Pokemon from a game design standpoint is stagnant and tired. Nintendo needs to friggin innovate a little with the core series."
Well they've never done it right in 3D. I figure such a game would be as innovative as Zelda's transition to 3D. It'll be like the N64 days when Nintendo was making old franchises feel new again just by switching them to 3D.
Post by: Magik on June 07, 2006, 10:18:50 AM
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I don't know Ian. An awesome pokemon remincent of the GBA with a WiFi Stadium multiplayer would be a killer-app for sure (at least in Japan).
People would train there pokemons for months just so they could compete in the latest and greatest tournament. Add in fantastic prizes if you win, and you not only have a cult following, but also a killer-app on your hands.
An online enabled Pokemon game is pretty much what every pokemon fan has been wanting since the beginning. It would give the Pokemon franchise new life.
Like you said, it would give people reason to actually train their pokemons so they can compete online.
Post by: Kairon on June 07, 2006, 11:04:48 AM
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Post by: Requiem on June 07, 2006, 11:11:15 AM
That actually looks....wonderful! The graphics, though shiny, are nice and rounded.
I'm telling you, WiFi this son of a bitch and attach a GREAT adventure mood and watch the money roll in!
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 07, 2006, 11:22:37 AM
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Post by: Kairon on June 07, 2006, 11:35:59 AM
Stadiums are big places that seat thousands. I'm sure there's a lot that happens in them, I'm sure there's lots of ways to get lost in one, lots of concession stands to visit, and lots of hidden hallways and stuff like that.
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Post by: Frozen Atlantic on June 07, 2006, 11:40:09 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Pokemon from a game design standpoint is stagnant and tired. Nintendo needs to friggin innovate a little with the core series.
Will the extra dev time and money result in many more sales? I submit it won't. How many high school kids are going to be brught in by a dramatic reinvention of Pokemon? Zero. From a business perspective, Nintendo just needs to make a game that's "not crap". Seeing their world and favorite characters in 3D, allowing them to play against the world, and a new feature or two will do it. Think Madden.
Post by: Requiem on June 07, 2006, 11:46:05 AM
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What they should do is make the entire adventure take place or revolve around the "stadium" location and all that embodies.
Stadiums are big places that seat thousands. I'm sure there's a lot that happens in them, I'm sure there's lots of ways to get lost in one, lots of concession stands to visit, and lots of hidden hallways and stuff like that.
~Carmine M. Red
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While that would be cool, I think Nintendo should stick to it's tried and true formula. Going across huge distances and different locales to fight Pokemon Dojo masters has always been appealing and it will continue to be appealing.
Like Ian said, simply transfering the franchise to 3D will make it seem fresh and new. That's all the innovation they need really. Add in some very beautiful graphics (for things like the location, i.e. forest, ocean, etc.) and maybe a Wiimote pokeball toss and you have yourself a hit.
Hell, I'd be tempted to check it out, if the exploration factor is anything like Zelda's.
Post by: Kairon on June 07, 2006, 11:47:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Pokemon from a game design standpoint is stagnant and tired. Nintendo needs to friggin innovate a little with the core series.
Will the extra dev time and money result in many more sales? I submit it won't. How many high school kids are going to be brught in by a dramatic reinvention of Pokemon? Zero. From a business perspective, Nintendo just needs to make a game that's "not crap". Seeing their world and favorite characters in 3D, allowing them to play against the world, and a new feature or two will do it. Think Madden.
THE ANTI-CHRIST!
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Post by: Frozen Atlantic on June 07, 2006, 12:50:42 PM
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Post by: Wackman on June 07, 2006, 01:09:44 PM
They chose this toy-look, and frankly i think it looks great. and i don't even like pokemon...
Post by: Ian Sane on June 07, 2006, 01:24:16 PM
Post by: Knoxxville on June 07, 2006, 02:03:40 PM
Post by: IceCold on June 07, 2006, 02:10:04 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Dang, that video looked impressive. More like N64 graphics, amIrite??
EDIT: Sorry.. just saw it. Is there any high resolution version?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 07, 2006, 03:06:13 PM
*raises arms in the air*
Not buying it!
Post by: Arbok on June 07, 2006, 06:37:54 PM
Post by: Crimm on June 07, 2006, 07:42:45 PM
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They actually hit each other... and it's sad that I'm excited about that as they never bothered to do it before, and should have for the GCN version.
That actually excited me too, and annoyed me since the second Stadium game. I figured since it was the same engine they weren't really doing that much between 1 and 2 on the N64; it should have been added then.
I hope Pokemon Channel Revolution is announced too! I can change the channel by twisting the wii-mote or aim it like a TV remote!
Post by: Mario on June 07, 2006, 08:44:54 PM
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I hope it's compatible with Pokemon Box!
It should be. Pokemon DS is supposed to be compatable with the GBA ones, so you can transfer your Pokemon from Pokemon Box to Pokemon Sapphire to Pokemon DS to Pokemon Wii.
Post by: nickmitch on June 07, 2006, 09:42:00 PM
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Anyone complaining about how the Pokemon look should consider the fact that there are over 300 Pokemon (and with Pearl/Diamond it will be over 400) and each of them would need their own 3D model. They have to make the characters look simplistic if they're to fit them all in.
Yeah, there are 386 pokémon (unless Bosly makes 387) not having a hairy Pikachu (see other thread) is a-ok. Making the pokémon that realistic would make the game lose its feel anyway. The plastic look is perfectly suitable for the pokémon style.
Post by: Crimm on June 07, 2006, 09:56:55 PM
I mean, they shouldn't look like they are coated in shellac.
In their defence, it isn't to the frosted donut level of Tekken 6: the Krispy Kreme Tournament. If their skin shined anymore it would be blinding.
Post by: Caterkiller on June 07, 2006, 10:19:17 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on June 07, 2006, 11:29:23 PM
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I hope Pokemon Channel Revolution is announced too! I can change the channel by twisting the wii-mote or aim it like a TV remote!
Yes! <3
I've never been a big fan of these Stadium type Pokemon games.. or the RPG ones. =x But this looks pretty cool. The stage was like Orchid's or something from Killer Instinct. Just needs really bad music and the illusion will be complete.
Post by: Pale on June 08, 2006, 03:38:51 AM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on June 08, 2006, 05:36:21 AM
Post by: Darkheart on June 08, 2006, 05:43:20 AM
::Loud Horns and Trumpet Fanfares::
:: Anouncer :: CONGRATULATIONS YOUVE MADE IT TO THE END OF THE GAME
::Roll Credits::
. . . . .
::Credits shred to pieces as the BIG red words appear on the screen::
NEW CHALLENGER
:: Announcer :: Incoming to the ring is Trainer Myamoto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
::shigs:: GO ULTIMATE POKEMON
:: Throws pokeball on the ground as the ground starts to shake and the ceiling starts to fall down upon the stadium. After the smoke and dust finally clear away a new ultimate pokemon appears admist it all ::
REGGIEMON!
I don't know I thought that would be a cool idea!
Post by: Caterkiller on June 08, 2006, 05:59:16 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 08, 2006, 06:36:33 AM
Post by: Pale on June 08, 2006, 07:44:13 AM
In the original stadium games pikachu only said pikachu if it happened to be one transferred from pokemon yellow.
Post by: Caterkiller on June 08, 2006, 08:34:10 AM
Post by: JonLeung on June 08, 2006, 08:50:46 AM
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Yeah, there are 386 pokémon (unless Bosly makes 387) not having a hairy Pikachu (see other thread) is a-ok. Making the pokémon that realistic would make the game lose its feel anyway. The plastic look is perfectly suitable for the pokémon style.
And what about Munchlax? Hmmm?
I don't think the Pokémon need to be realistic, but longtime Pokémon fans are nearly ten years older than when the first games came out, so if they were 6 when they caught them all, they'll be a bit insecure about it if they are nearly 16 now and somehow still playing. It wouldn't hurt.
Or at the very least, a little bit of hair on Pikachu can't hurt. Not a major biggie wither way.
Post by: Mikintosh on June 08, 2006, 11:09:07 PM
The console games are a different story. The two Stadium games where the best, and especially 2's wide range of cups and all that mini-game stuff made you really feel like you were getting a lot of bang for your buck. Plus, playing the gym leader's castle was the closest thing to a genuine Pokemon console RPG. Until Colloseum, which, as opposed to every other Pokemon game I own, I haven't finished. The leveling up is awkward and difficult, the story doesn't have the innocence of the Game Freak games, and they forgot to put the cups in, taking out a lot of what made the Stadium games worth playing. I haven't bought Pokemon XD yet, but I suspect more of the same.
So, if Pokemon BR can bring back the charm of the Stadium games (that they used Red & Green from the Kanto games is a good sign), I'd be very pleased. I'm sure I'll end up buying it anyway, but I'd rather do it with enthusiasm.
Post by: wandering on June 08, 2006, 11:12:42 PM
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The console games are a different story. The two Stadium games where the best, and especially 2's wide range of cups and all that mini-game stuff made you really feel like you were getting a lot of bang for your buck. Plus, playing the gym leader's castle was the closest thing to a genuine Pokemon console RPG. Until Colloseum, which, as opposed to every other Pokemon game I own, I haven't finished. The leveling up is awkward and difficult, the story doesn't have the innocence of the Game Freak games, and they forgot to put the cups in, taking out a lot of what made the Stadium games worth playing. I haven't bought Pokemon XD yet, but I suspect more of the same.
What, no love for Snap?
Anyway, I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I've seen the trailer. I don't really care that much about graphics, but I'm a pushover when it comes to slickness. And, dang, this thing is looking slick.
Post by: Pale on June 09, 2006, 03:49:12 AM
I agree that pokemon like Mew, and even Jigglypuff make sense saying their names... but others just sound stupid, especially the ones with the more American sounding names.
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Post by: Kairon on June 09, 2006, 09:04:37 AM
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Post by: MaryJane on March 08, 2007, 02:44:07 AM
I'm looking forward to this game for its online purposes but I am extremely disappointed in the lack of an actual game. It's basically a way to play a DS game online (which you can do through the DS anyway), on a big screen.
Post by: NeoThunder on March 08, 2007, 06:15:40 AM
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