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Title: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: ruby_onix on May 25, 2006, 02:06:03 AM
Bloomberg Japan

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Originally posted by: Babelfish
As for Wii 20000 5000 Yen or less

The forest benevolence ocean special duty which interviewed in Osaka 20000 5000 Yen or 250 dollars or less made ? thing clear concerning the price prospect of Wii.


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Originally posted by: Babelfish
As for the present term shipment quantity of game machine "Wii" for the next generation home of sale schedule 600 ten thousand units, as for number of shipments of the game software 1700 ten thousand are planned in December period.

Nintendo plans to ship 6,000,000 hardware units, and 17,000,000 games (almost three games per-person), through December?

FYI, the DS sold somewhere around 3 million units in Japan and America combined during it's first holiday season.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Mario on May 25, 2006, 02:35:46 AM
Alright, first they've rounded it down below $300, now $250.

6 million (in DECEMBER? Holy crap) would be amazing, but i'll believe it when it happens.
Title: RE:Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 02:53:31 AM
Speaking at the company's latest press conference unveiling its financial results, Nintendo revealed that Wii would arrive in Japanese stores with a maximum price tag of 25,000 yen. Whipping out our calculators and doing some quick sums, that roughly translates as 222 USD or 174 euros. By way of comparison, the PS3 will retail for 62,790 yen (558 USD/437 euro) at launch, while the Xbox 360 currently sells at 39,795 yen (277 USD/353 euro).

CVG

So the $250 price tag sounds about right

Which indicates to me they are going with a bundle at launch (hopefully a Wii, a couple of controllers and Wii sports)
Title: RE:Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Aussiedude on May 25, 2006, 02:55:30 AM
25000 YEN is
$223 USD
$295 AUD
120 POUND
175 EURO
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 25, 2006, 02:56:15 AM
So, basically, $200 for the US.

$500,000 US for Europe, $499 for the UK, $ $750 for Australia, $1,200 for New Zealand. Confirmed.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 02:57:28 AM
I think they usually round upwards from yen to US dollars  
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 25, 2006, 03:01:50 AM
Japan gets raped with everything, they'll round it down for America. Then they'll round it up with a broken calculator for the rest of the world.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 03:15:09 AM
Yeah - obviously $250 dollars = 250 Euro = £250 pounds in electronic retail land.

It might not be so bad though for the Wii - IIRC the Gamecube came out at about 180 pounds, which taking sales tax into account wasn't actually far off the US prices of $250
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 03:23:30 AM
Cube was retailed at 199, not 250
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 03:28:54 AM
Ahh. It was a bloody rip off in the UK then :-(

Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 03:42:46 AM
You think that's bad look at the PS3, 425 GBP
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 03:53:34 AM
True, but I don't really want a PS3 so that doesn't upset me so much - I kind of didn't realise I was ripped off so much when I bought my Cube and it means I'm presumably gonna get shafted buying a Wii as well.

Computers and other electronic stuff isn't generally that much more expensive in Europe any more but the games industry seems to be one of the last hold outs for serious exchange rate gouging - one thing the internet and the Euro have done is make it easier to see when you're being ripped off compared to people in other countries...
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 03:56:40 AM
I'd expect 150 GBP for UK if I were you (Since the direct conversion puts it at around 120 GBP)

And probably around 200 Euros
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 04:21:37 AM
I guess I can live with that. If the UK release is much later than the US, I might try and import one anyway.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 04:40:29 AM
I think they are going for either a WWlaunch or a launch with all markets reached within 14 weeks
Title: RE:Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: mantidor on May 25, 2006, 04:52:46 AM
oh crap... well, better start saving now so they dont surprise me if the real price ends up $250 instead of $200.

Title: RE:Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: couchmonkey on May 25, 2006, 05:37:26 AM
With the Canadian dollar approaching the U.S. dollar, I wonder if we'll still pay more for the Wii?  I like how this says North America, so it sounds like there's no way I'm going to pay more than $250 no matter what.  Noice.

Oh yeah, I think they said the shipments are for the fiscal year, which means that they're going to try to sell this much before March, not just in November and December.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 25, 2006, 06:03:39 AM
I think we pretty much already knew this price point.  $200-$250 for a Wii.  The extra fifty dollars isn't that big of a deal...except that if the Xbox 360 drops price some this holiday season, then $250 won't look like that great of a deal.  

Personally I hope Nintendo looks back to the past at the NES system bundles.  The reason the NES was so cool was that you could buy a system and have two controllers, a light gun, and a game in a single package.  It made it an easier single purchase, because you could immediately play.  

I believe this type of packaging is a must to for the nongamer.  One package and you get two controllers, and a simple game to immediately play.

I would beg for the $250 price point if they did that for us.

Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Magik on May 25, 2006, 06:32:30 AM
If the Wii came bundled with a second controller or a game (WiiSports?) or even both, than a $250 price tag is justified and would definitely be very attractive during the holidays.
Title: RE:Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 06:37:20 AM
Retailers might not like bundling by Nintendo - it would show up what crap deals the retailers own launch bundles typically are...
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 07:18:36 AM
Nintendo isn't really one to worry about other comapanies, and if it makes the retailers look bad, so much the better, someone needs to stick it to them
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 07:23:42 AM
But don't the retailers just have to threaten not to stock the Wii or hide it in the back of the shop somewhere? I thought that big retailers hold a lot of power over their suppliers in general and particularly in the games industry.

Having said that, I guess Sony and MS are already paying retailers to put Nintendo stuff on small out of the way shelves, so perhaps Nintendo have nothing to lose...
Title: RE:Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Caliban on May 25, 2006, 07:40:53 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
With the Canadian dollar approaching the U.S. dollar, I wonder if we'll still pay more for the Wii?  I like how this says North America, so it sounds like there's no way I'm going to pay more than $250 no matter what.  Noice.


We always pay a little more more. I expect Wii to launch at $200US and then here in Canada we see it at $249.99 which would be a total rip-off if the canadian dollar keeps its strength until the Wii's launch.
Title: RE:Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 07:56:05 AM
Walmart, Best Buy, Circuit City etc. are not at all likely to try to keep Nintendo out of their stores due to bundles, they don't really care, and if they have it, do you really think Gamestop is going to try to?  They wouldn't risk losing the sales, so no I don't see how they have any say in that matter.

The only way that they could excert that power is if all stores tried to pull that, and if Walmart isn't going to then no other comapny will, at least not in the US.   Don't know about the UK or Canada, but if big box stores keep them in stock then the samller game stores will do it also.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 08:50:26 AM
Over here, unless a product is a must have purchase, the big outlets basically sell shelf space to their suppliers. Nintendo wouldn't play so they got poor quality spots in the shops. Then, as soon as the Gamecube started to look like it wasn't doing well, some prominent chains dropped it entirely. On the other hand, even though the Xbox1 didn't do spectacularly well here either, it still gets good shelf space - because Microsoft pay for it.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 09:15:10 AM
Well then the Wii just has to sell well
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 09:34:01 AM
I think it has a reasonable chance of selling well and a near certainty of making Nintendo money and keeping them in the business even if it doesn't do much better than the Gamecube did.

I'm obviously going to buy one regardless - I want good games, I don't care whether I'm backing a winner or not and just what's been shown at E3 is enough to justify the purchase for me even if it bombs after release.  
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 09:50:22 AM
True, even if the only good games are Metroid, Mario and Zelda its more than worth the purchase.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Kairon on May 25, 2006, 09:55:58 AM
Interesting that these are pretty much the same numbers Sony touts for the PS3...

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Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 10:00:23 AM
Probably refelcts how many they think they can manufacture in time.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: BigJim on May 25, 2006, 12:21:26 PM
The hardware/software figures are also almost exactly what they forecasted for GameCube as well.
Title: RE: Six million Wiiis at $250 apiece?
Post by: jasonditz on May 25, 2006, 03:36:20 PM
This puts the US price at $224 or less. I wouldn't mind seeing $224.99, or better still launch at $249.99 with a first party game of your choice.