Post by: Pryopizm on May 15, 2006, 12:18:04 PM
Nintendo has recently been barraged with kind comments by its closest competitors, Microsoft and Sony. During an interview with Reuters at E3 last week, Microsoft's Corporate Vice President, Peter Moore, made a swipe at Sony saying, "Tell me why you would buy a $600 PS3? People are ... going to buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii ... for the price of one PS3. People will always gravitate toward a competitively priced product -- like what I believe Wii will be -- with innovative new designs and great intellectual property like Mario, Zelda and Metroid."
Sony, for their part, responded to Microsoft's barb in an interview with GamePro. "I think Peter Moore is exactly right," said Sony exec, Phil Harrison. "I think Nintendo will be the second system consumers purchase after PlayStation 3. I haven't had a chance to check out the Wii myself, but Nintendo has a great history of innovation and has always done great things for gaming and long may they do so."
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 15, 2006, 12:44:47 PM
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 15, 2006, 12:55:56 PM
"When you go to the store to buy a Wii use all that money you save to also buy a Playstation 3!"
"No, buy an Xbox 360 to compliment your Wii. It's cheaper than a PS3."
Essentially Sony and MS are positioning THEMSELVES as the second console with the Wii being the assumed purchase. They may not even realize that but that's what they're saying.
Post by: Caliban on May 15, 2006, 12:55:58 PM
Wether people like it or not, publicity even from competitors is fair and always welcome.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 15, 2006, 01:06:38 PM
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Post by: Shin Gallon on May 15, 2006, 01:21:25 PM
360 isn't even in the running at this point for me, it has nothing I want.
Post by: Requiem on May 15, 2006, 01:29:01 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 15, 2006, 01:41:44 PM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
Maybe they want Nintendo to remian in the game market for the sole reason of stealing their ideas!
Correct.
MS has made a fine living off of Apple's ideas and innovations for over two decades. They recognize that trying to kill Nintendo is like killing Apple: biting the hand that feeds them.
There are two types of companies in the world: those that innovate and those that take innovations from other companies, do a better job marketing them and succeed that way.
Sony and MS both know that Nintendo is going to be around for a while but it's that THEY are the ones vying for the same market: the established hardcore gamer.
Post by: couchmonkey on May 15, 2006, 01:54:34 PM
Even though that's what they should have said.
Post by: Faithinchaos on May 15, 2006, 03:15:10 PM
Are they truly rising above the traditional "console wars?"
Will Sony and Microsoft ever. JUST. GO. AWAY.
Stay tuned!
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 15, 2006, 03:50:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Faithinchaos Are they truly rising above the traditional "console wars?"
I never believed it would happen, but it seems to be the case.
The whole "Be so different that they can't touch you." strategy seems to be working.
Post by: Faithinchaos on May 15, 2006, 05:02:57 PM
At first, nintendo was scaring me with their "Blue Ocean" nonsense speak. I'm actually unfortunately familiar with corporate jargon, and hearing that kind of corporate theory come from Nintendo was quite disheartening and put a solid knot in my stomache. But their master plan is starting to show itself, and it really is epic. Provided things play out as they're appearing to be, the NES will no longer be remembered as their big, bold accomplishment, which is fscking INSANE to think about!
/methinks this is perhaps something they've been hammering out for a long time, while Yamauchi was still in the big chair. I mean, surely this isn't all a plan by Satoru Iwata...
Right?
Post by: ssj4_android on May 15, 2006, 07:39:43 PM
Post by: EasyCure on May 16, 2006, 03:23:31 AM
thats how i read that last statement anyway.
"Now, why doesn't Microsoft let Nintendo sell Rare games on the VC?"
although i'd love to play some of those classic rare games, the only way i see microsoft doing that while rare is under their belt is by having some kinda MS ads in the game. Like you d/l perfect dark and after the Rare logo you see something like "perfect dark 0 only on xbox" or something. that would be super lame and i wouldnt want nintendo to make an agreemant which would advertise its competitor.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 16, 2006, 04:53:14 AM
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Post by: PaLaDiN on May 16, 2006, 09:13:40 AM
QuoteMGS4 and FFXIII. The PS3 is basically the Squeenix Kojima Box right now.
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
What was the system seller for the PS3? I can understand Halo 3 on the 360, but what on the PS3 is a clear must-have?
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 16, 2006, 09:20:03 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN MGS4 and FFXIII. The PS3 is basically the Squeenix Kojima Box right now.
Is that worth $600, though?
And I just don't get how Kojima can be so goddamn adamant about seeing Snake into SSBB and yet not make any games for Nintendo's consoles (even Twin Snakes wasn't developed by Konami but by SK...)
Post by: Kairon on May 16, 2006, 09:29:50 AM
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Post by: PaLaDiN on May 16, 2006, 09:43:10 AM
QuoteYeah, actually. Not to me personally, but you asked for system sellers.
Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherIs that worth $600, though?
I'm thinking Kojima might be regretting starting work on MGS4 for PS3 so early. They can't exactly port it over to another console, given that it's pretty much the most graphically intensive game on PS3 and thus one of the most reliant on its hardware structure. I guess he just assumed the PS3 would dominate like the PS2, which isn't looking so obvious right now.
Post by: mantidor on May 16, 2006, 10:48:19 AM
Post by: Requiem on May 16, 2006, 11:15:38 AM
That's a good sign if I've ever seen one.
Post by: mantidor on May 16, 2006, 11:23:47 AM
Kojima: "I'd like to run away from MGS 4 creation and create something for the Wii but unfortunately, I don't have anything that I can announce at the moment. I have lots of ideas for Wii but I have a heavy schedule with MGS 4 and Metal Gear Online."
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 16, 2006, 11:29:06 AM
Post by: Rhoq on May 16, 2006, 12:04:49 PM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
although i'd love to play some of those classic rare games, the only way i see microsoft doing that while rare is under their belt is by having some kinda MS ads in the game. Like you d/l perfect dark and after the Rare logo you see something like "perfect dark 0 only on xbox" or something. that would be super lame and i wouldnt want nintendo to make an agreemant which would advertise its competitor.
...But as we've heard many times already, from Nintendo - Nintendo does not consider the Wii a competitor to the PS3 or XBox 360. If that is in fact true, why would they care if Microsoft were to do that to a Rare developed Virtual Console game? Of course we know that they do care, and the the Wii is competing, regardless of what they say or want us to believe.
Post by: Rhoq on May 16, 2006, 12:05:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Pale
I was buying a PS3 at launch... until the "$600 LOL" crap... Now I don't know what I'm doing besides getting Wii.
I'll get a Wii at launch and probably an XBox 360 1Q2007.
Post by: ShyGuy on May 16, 2006, 01:54:03 PM
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 16, 2006, 02:10:27 PM
For those of you wondering about the system sellers are going to be for the PS3, they're going to be what they have been for EVERY Sony system since the beginning:
- A Metal Gear Solid game
- A Final Fantasy Game
- A Gran Turismo game
- A Ridge Racer game
- A Madden game
- A God of War game (eventually)
- A Burnout game (eventually)
I'm sure there are a couple of other titles we could throw in there too, like "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Same With Better Graphics and More Vehicles/Weapons". Can't wait for that one.
People are gravitating towards the Wii because it's the only console that is truly different this generation. The 360 and PS3 offer incremental improvements on the same formula, so there aren't any surprises any more. And since the gaming public has already seen what HDTV gaming looks like on the 360, what the PS3 is doing is even more underwhelming.
Post by: Kairon on May 16, 2006, 02:35:42 PM
It's funny. Sony has done something that Ian will hate a lot. They're throwing out the baby with the bathwater and excluding established features like rumble feedback to include a new unproven "sparkling innovationy" feature like tilt sensors.
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Post by: mantidor on May 16, 2006, 03:04:44 PM
Post by: Kairon on May 16, 2006, 03:13:15 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
I dont think its that new, I mean look at sony's new launch game!
This is when Sony unveiled that launch game.
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Post by: JonLeung on May 16, 2006, 03:21:46 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
The winning combo is Nintendo+PC and every gamer knows it.
So true.
So many Xbox & Xbox 360 games are on the PC it's not even funny.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 17, 2006, 07:11:18 AM
- A Metal Gear Solid game
- A Final Fantasy Game
- A Gran Turismo game
- A Ridge Racer game
- A Madden game
- A God of War game (eventually)
- A Burnout game (eventually)
Only Final Fantasy, GT and God of War are exclusive among those. The rest will appear on other consoles and maybe even the PC. A non-exclusive is hardly a system seller.
