Post by: Rize on May 10, 2006, 05:16:32 PM
You read correctly. Those dastardly devils at Nintendo saved a bit of knock-your-socks-off info for the first night of E3. To cut straight to the chase, the name of the title is Super Smash Bros. Brawl and new playable characters include Solid Snake, Wario, Meta Knight (of Kirby fame), Pit (of Kid Icarus fame) and Zero-Suit Samus (of Metroid: Zero Mission fame).
Update: There is some more info from this secret gathering. Wario will have a fart attack and Snake will naturally be using explosives and his trusty cardboard box. The game will be fully compatible with the GameCube controller. There will be online multiplayer for two players, but so far, syncing up four players is a technical challenge for that sort of game that they haven't fully worked out. It's also reportedly "possible" that other 3rd party characters could end up in the game before it's all said and done.
Finally, in contradiction to information from E3 last year, the game will be a 2007 title, not a launch title. And while we're on the subject, Super Mario Galaxy was also confirmed to be too early to launch with the system.
Update 2: We have more new information on SSBB. The Super Smash Bros logo is a new item in the game. When picked up, it gives the character a super attack. What's special about the item is that each character receives a different special attack. The Nintendogs also appear in the game, putting their paws up to the screen to distract the players.
Post by: Zach on May 10, 2006, 05:25:41 PM
Hopefully this means that there isnt going to be a surprise delay, as has been rumored.
Edit: Spelling error
Post by: Caliban on May 10, 2006, 05:27:18 PM
Woohoo! Cool! Hopefully we will see some of that footage soon.
Post by: Griffin on May 10, 2006, 05:27:42 PM
Pit rules, too. Not sure about Meta Knight, but then again, I'm not much of a Kirby fan, and not aware of his popularity level.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 10, 2006, 05:28:12 PM
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Post by: MattVDB on May 10, 2006, 05:42:37 PM
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Post by: Rize on May 10, 2006, 05:51:42 PM
Post by: Shin Gallon on May 10, 2006, 05:51:43 PM
Now all I'll need is a Wii Gameshark and a "take Wario out of the game" code and I'll be set...
Post by: Requiem of Darcness on May 10, 2006, 05:53:36 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 10, 2006, 05:56:21 PM
I would lay good odds on Sonic as allegedly the deal was almost sealed on him being in SSBM.
Also, I remember playing as Snake in DMTV, he was top tier
Post by: thepoga on May 10, 2006, 05:58:31 PM
Post by: coolsebas on May 10, 2006, 05:59:30 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/supersmashbros/screenindex.html?sid=6150531
Post by: couchmonkey on May 10, 2006, 06:01:15 PM
But it certainly won't make me give it up, and I'm glad they showed a bit of the game. And SINCE they're in there anyway, I want Mega Man! Edit: Saw the shots, awesome. Game looks quite a bit better than the original (graphically), but...Samus looks kind of weird without her suit. It's like she's wearing a wig or something. I assume that's Samus anyway.
Good work on keeping the show exciting after the press conference!
Post by: Griffin on May 10, 2006, 06:04:30 PM
Post by: MattVDB on May 10, 2006, 06:10:37 PM
Post by: Rize on May 10, 2006, 06:15:08 PM
I wasn't aware that this or Prime 3 was going to make the launch sadly. In fact, this very story says it will be 2007
Most info is suggesting Prime 3 won't be ready for launch either unfortunately. The press sheets say "TBA" release date for now.
Post by: Michael8983 on May 10, 2006, 06:15:36 PM
If he's in, it's very VERY possible we could see Sonic, Pacman, Mario, Cloud, etc...
Between this and the return of Duck Hunt with (non-Orange) "zapper", I think Nintendo has gone insane and I LOVE IT!
Post by: Ian Sane on May 10, 2006, 06:16:33 PM
YES! No compromising the controls!
The graphics look f*cking sweet too! Not surprising considering that SSBM looked better than most Cube games. Why Nintendo didn't use that Mario model for all their other Mario games I'll never know.
This also looks better than a Cube game!
Post by: AnyoneEB on May 10, 2006, 06:23:58 PM
If the delay means they have time to get 4-player online working, it's worth it.
Post by: Michael8983 on May 10, 2006, 06:24:14 PM
I get that maybe it doesn't utilize the Wii-mote very well which was what the conference was all about, but this SO would have blown people's minds. All those concerns about all Wii game's have sub-par graphics would have been obliterated. The game is beatiful.
Post by: MattVDB on May 10, 2006, 06:24:14 PM
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707486p1.html
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 10, 2006, 06:24:47 PM
This sounds like Nintendo reaching out to 3rd parties in a big way, and frankly, I love the idea.
Here's to hoping they don't compromise the multiplayer in favor of single player...
Post by: Caliban on May 10, 2006, 06:25:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Rize
MattVDB?
I wasn't aware that this or Prime 3 was going to make the launch sadly. In fact, this very story says it will be 2007
Most info is suggesting Prime 3 won't be ready for launch either unfortunately. The press sheets say "TBA" release date for now.
SSBB might be out in 2007, but Prime 3 is launch title as was said by IGN and it will be proven in an interview they have done and will be up when they put it up.
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 10, 2006, 06:32:48 PM
:massivedrool:
I so want this!!! :love:
now, hem, being more serious, non-Nintendo mascots?
sounds odd, but extremely exciting nevetheless ^^
maybe we'll get the answer to the old "mario vs Sonic" thing
also, is it me or the character go SSJ now?
plus, it seems that the specials' powers have been upped "a little" >_>.....
I can't wait ^_____________^
Post by: Louieturkey on May 10, 2006, 06:36:44 PM
Post by: Davideo on May 10, 2006, 06:37:39 PM
it's hillarious and sweet and amazing... now I can't wait for the high-res copy.
PS- I'm sad that Mario is not a launch title.... I really think that is going to hurt them.
Post by: TJ Spyke on May 10, 2006, 06:38:50 PM
Solid Snake? Of all the game characters I expected to maybe be in this he wasn't one of them. Sonic should be a lock now.
I just hope they can take care of the technical problems and get online multiplayer at least up to 4 players.
Post by: Pale on May 10, 2006, 06:39:36 PM
CAN I SAY I TOLD YOU SCREW BALLS SO!
Remember that thread... back before I was staff? I think I said i was quitting the forums in it.... =P
Post by: Caliban on May 10, 2006, 06:44:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Hey Caliban, you were beaten with the info and a link to the story was provided.
Like duh, I noticed that, but as I was typing my post his wasn't there yet so I'm still innocent lol.
Post by: Epitaph on May 10, 2006, 06:49:26 PM
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 10, 2006, 07:32:55 PM
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but why in the middle of the night? I HAVE WORK TOMORROW NINTENDO I NEED TO SLEEP AND NOW I CANT!!
Such weakness will not be tolerated mantidor!
As for Snake Kojima asked for him to be in SSBM but it was too late then
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 10, 2006, 07:33:07 PM
I don't even know what to say. This is bliss. This is what heaven feels like.
Maybe this is what sex feels like!
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 10, 2006, 07:35:02 PM
Post by: Nephilim on May 10, 2006, 08:14:28 PM
AWSOMEEEEEEEEEEE
Post by: Michael8983 on May 10, 2006, 08:16:11 PM
With the announcement of Smash Bros Brawn, just about EVERYTHING I was hoping for was announced alomg with some things I NEVER would have expected but am thrilled about.
The only thing I was wanting/expecting but didn't get was Nights but I suspect it's in development but too early to show. But the announcement of a Wii version of Resident Evil makes up for as I can't think of a game more perfectly suited for the Wii-mote. In fact I was playing RE4 just a few weeks back and thinking how incredible it would be with the new controller. I don't even care that we didn't get to SEE it. Just knowing it's coming is enough for me.
Post by: blackfootsteps on May 10, 2006, 08:34:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I didn't think E3 could get any better.
I don't even know what to say. This is bliss. This is what heaven feels like.
Maybe this is what sex feels like!
Sums up my thoughts exactly. Its better than sex though.
*Hopes girlfriend doesn't read this
One last thought: GC controls will be fine, thank god I've got about 6 or 7 in the house. But I do wonder why they don't use the newly announced 'classic' controller. Three sets of controls may be a bit much for non-GC owners.
Post by: Shin Gallon on May 10, 2006, 08:45:11 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
How come we get stupid characters from other stupid games from other stupid companies and we don't get Captain N. His ass better be in there.
Maybe because Solid Snake and the entire Metal gear Solid series are awesome, and Captain N was a crappy show with a dorky main character? I dunno...
I'm hoping Sonic is in this one...and Tails, for that matter.
Post by: UncleBob on May 10, 2006, 08:51:06 PM
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Originally posted by: Shin Gallon
Maybe because Solid Snake and the entire Metal gear Solid series are awesome, and Captain N was a crappy show with a dorky main character? I dunno...
I'm sorry, where did you say you lived again?
Seriously, Captain N may have been dorky, but he totally deserves to be in a Smash Bros. game. Way more than Snake.
Post by: MattVDB on May 10, 2006, 09:18:47 PM
(Still looks freaking amazing. Can Not Wait)
Post by: wandering on May 10, 2006, 09:26:14 PM
Anyway, Nintendo wins.
Post by: Shin Gallon on May 10, 2006, 10:00:55 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
I'm sorry, where did you say you lived again?
Seriously, Captain N may have been dorky, but he totally deserves to be in a Smash Bros. game. Way more than Snake.
If you say so, I couldn't be happier about this. I love Metal Gear Solid (only real reason I'm going to get a PS3) and Snake is one of my all-time favorite video game characters.
Post by: UncleBob on May 10, 2006, 10:05:04 PM
But I want Captain N. That'd be neat.
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Post by: wandering on May 10, 2006, 10:22:12 PM
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Really though Snake should only be the start of the floodgates. You can just have one sole 3rd party character. Need 20 more now. Sonic, Lara Croft, Sam Fisher, Mega Man, Jill Valentine, Crash, Spyro etc. all need to be in there now.
Yes indeedy...this should be like the videogame equivalent of 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?'
Post by: denjet78 on May 10, 2006, 10:25:29 PM
Could this be the beginning of a thaw between Konami and Nintendo? I'm not a fan of the series myself but an exclusive Metal Gear Wii would take a lot of wind out of Sony's sails, even if it's just a spin-off. A new Castlevania would be great too. Think of controlling Simon's whip with the Wii remote.
Of course we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves but I think this announcement shows some signs of doors that used to be closed finally openning again.
Post by: Khushrenada on May 10, 2006, 10:25:53 PM
Now Wario was pretty much a lock considering he has plenty of unique moves and adventures of his own. He definitely deserved to be included.
Pit, I also expected because he's been mentioned about so much lately. Nintendo Power mentioned him as someone they'd like to see in the next game and recently ran a flashback on the game Kid Icarus. But, I expected him to be a real hidden character like Mr. Game and Watch and really surprise us.
Meta-Knight is another charcter I've been hoping for. Frankly, the Kirby universe is full of great characters and should be represented by more. I just hope they also add King Dedede as well. I'd love to battle with him.
Zero-suit Samus is the one I find most surprising. I felt if they did another Samus it would be Dark Samus or the SA-X Samus. Zero-suit just had a weak ray hun and ran around a lot. Still, she is one of the finest looking Nintendo characters. I'll choose her over Candy Kong any day.
Quick list of other characters I want to see in the game:
King K. Rool - (He's got plenty of moves)
Dixie Kong - (People always list Diddy but Dixie has more unique moves)
Ridley - (forget size issues, I want to swoop down on Samus and rumble in Norfair)
Captain Olimar - (I like him and think he could be interesting)
King Dedede - (I mentioned him already and I want to mention him again)
Star Wolf - (Give Falco his own set of moves and make Wolf a clone if necessary. I don't like clones but I really think they should include more villians)
Quick list of others that would be nice - Toad, Daisy, Diddy Kong, another F-zero character, Pokemon to replace Pichu (Squirtle), another zelda character (Ganon), Starman, Mario RPG character (Smithy or Geno), Banjo-Kazooie (seems more likely now), Marx and Wart.
Post by: IceCold on May 10, 2006, 10:34:42 PM
QuoteHaha, yeah I remember, although I would have liked this game to attempt to use the motion sensing control.
Remember that thread... back before I was staff? I think I said i was quitting the forums in it.... =P
I want Olimar too..
Post by: soracloudtidus on May 10, 2006, 10:41:29 PM
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Post by: Nephilim on May 10, 2006, 11:16:27 PM
But they have different move sets
Mario does a down spike while standing, this is impossable in melee without jumping
but stangely he has the normal down smash (break dancing kick spin), but it seemed weaker as when he did it to link, he only got knocked back a bit
So its very strange
Post by: theRPGFreak on May 11, 2006, 12:25:46 AM
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Post by: vudu on May 11, 2006, 03:07:55 AM
After watching the trailer I thought for a half a second that a Nintendog was to be added as a fighter. That would be been great.
Post by: mantidor on May 11, 2006, 04:46:15 AM
Post by: Rize on May 11, 2006, 06:58:15 AM
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Originally posted by: MattVDB
So, I jumped the gun on calling it exclusive, but this was the page I reloaded to see it. I was just pleased to see the staff on top of it to the point of me hearing about it here first. Good Show.
(Still looks freaking amazing. Can Not Wait)
Thanks, that's what we're here for. And you seem to be right about Prime 3 at launch. To that I can only say THANK YOU JAYSUS
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 11, 2006, 07:18:14 AM
I just hope they don't use too many 3rd party characters. Sonic and Snake and Megaman are all cool, but if they start throwing in stuff like Leon and Jill (from the same series, and basically wouldn't do anything differently from each other, and probably Snake, too) I'll be pissed. Keep it to a diversity of moves, and 3rd party characters to a . . . reasonable percentage.
And continue to handle it gracefully. I love the way Snake was introduced, it just made me feel good.
Post by: Rize on May 11, 2006, 08:02:23 AM
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Post by: Ndolger on May 11, 2006, 08:42:20 AM
After reading the smash brso. dojo! site this also makes me very happy:
"The main theme was created for us by none other than famed Final Fantasy composer, Nobuo Uematsu!
Additionally, opera singer Ken Nishikiori has also participated in this project on vocals.
...And as a special service to readers of this site, I can say that the game's music will be performed by a full orchestra. It will be a deluxe chorus complete with lyrics in Latin."
I CAN'T WAIT!
Kinda sad that HAL isn't working on it, but "The Studio" seems capable enough it seems. Soooo glad Sakurai is directing it. Can't wait to own everybody online; this series has been my life for the last six years.
Post by: odifiend on May 11, 2006, 08:45:19 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Does anyone else find it weird how this game wasn't even shown at the press conference and yet there's a trailer and screenshots while for Super Mario Galaxy all we have is footage from the conference, one screenshot, and some shots of demo units taken on the show floor? Why is so much being released for a title that's probably a fair ways off while the other games that are going to be released sooner have virtually no official screenshots whatsoever?
Nintendo isn't as stupid as you think and knows how to incite a response from their fanbase?
Post by: Caliban on May 11, 2006, 09:30:14 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 11, 2006, 10:34:07 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Does anyone else find it weird how this game wasn't even shown at the press conference and yet there's a trailer and screenshots while for Super Mario Galaxy all we have is footage from the conference, one screenshot, and some shots of demo units taken on the show floor? Why is so much being released for a title that's probably a fair ways off while the other games that are going to be released sooner have virtually no official screenshots whatsoever?
Because why release official anything while the thing is playable? Screenshots will most likely come out when E3 is over with.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 11, 2006, 11:03:57 AM
Because 99% of the people who want them aren't at E3!
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Post by: odifiend on May 12, 2006, 12:46:53 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 12, 2006, 02:42:33 PM
You'll get all sorts of impressions, screenshots and direct feed videos from the playable demos though. We know more about Super Mario Galaxy than we know about SSBB.
Post by: wandering on May 17, 2006, 12:23:30 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Because why release official anything while the thing is playable? Screenshots will most likely come out when E3 is over with."
Because 99% of the people who want them aren't at E3!
You know, I actually didn't think Nintendo's strategy of not releasing any screenshots was good at first. News reports were basically saying the same thing they said several months ago: you can use the wii controller to control a gun or an airplane, etc. I thought the lack of concrete details about the Wii would hurt its press.
Then articles like this came along, and now I understand their strategy. They're building massive hype without really letting most people compare Wii graphics to the other consoles directly.
Post by: Mop it up on June 07, 2009, 05:17:19 PM
This makes me wonder how much longer the Mario Kart Wii tournaments will last.
Post by: Stratos on June 07, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
I think MKWii will last longer because that one is near the top 10 of the monthly sellers.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2009, 08:03:36 PM
