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Title: Wii Already in Production?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 05, 2006, 08:45:52 PM: Nintendojo

Still Just a Rumor, but really cool if true
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Post by: AnyoneEB on May 05, 2006, 09:04:13 PM: That would make sense. Nintendo does not want to end up with MS's position of people wanting to buy their console but unable to find it. After all, the design should be finalized by now. I thought I remembered hearing that final dev kits existed, although I do not remember for sure.
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Post by: Aussiedude on May 05, 2006, 09:17:36 PM: Well it must be because when I pre-ordered my DS-Lite today at EB they offered to sell me some Wiiiiiii. "will that be all or would you like some Wii with that?"
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Post by: Arbok on May 05, 2006, 09:20:04 PM: I wouldn't doubt that it could be true, but the opening line of that article makes it seem pretty shady even for a "rumor" report:

"According to an anonymous poster over at the IGN message boards, a Nintendo representative told him/her and a co-worker that Nintendo is already producing Wii units and has them stockpiled for release."
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Post by: Zach on May 05, 2006, 09:31:27 PM: thats what I thought when I saw it, its like, "Johnny told me that tom told him that amanda told him that bob told her ..."

Anyway, an anonymous poster on the ign forums isnt exactly the best source, but it would be cool, if nintendo has the games to back it
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Post by: Caliban on May 05, 2006, 09:40:52 PM: Yeah, they probably don't want to experience another unpredictable shortage as it was for the DSLite.
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Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 05, 2006, 09:56:55 PM: They better not release Wii without Smash. That's all I'm going to say about that
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Post by: The Omen on May 05, 2006, 10:33:08 PM: June in Japan
Sept in US
December everywhere else
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Post by: trip1eX on May 05, 2006, 10:38:36 PM: Not true.
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Post by: Kairon on May 05, 2006, 10:53:30 PM: I believe that whenever they release Zelda:TP is more or less when they release the Wii.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 05, 2006, 11:36:38 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: The Omen
June in Japan
Sept in US
December everywhere else

Those aren't bad release predictions, though I would have to disagree a bit on the Japan prediction. I think the Wii needs at least 2 maybe 3 months of marketing hype before they put it out. So I would guess late july, early august. Late September, early October for NA and late November early December for everywhere else.
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Post by: Mario on May 05, 2006, 11:47:44 PM: December is a bad month to release a system in any territory because then both the launch hype and holiday hype cancel each other out. I'm going to predict November or earlier for Europe, if they can get shipments done quickly and efficiently, there could be a huge number of systems sold at the launch, and also another huge number sold to holiday shoppers the next month, then it's up to momentum.

June for Japan is too early... unless it's out in other territories at that time as well, I think a worldwide launch is the most important thing to focus on. Plus Japan still has the DS causing riots in the meantime so there's no rush.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 06, 2006, 12:43:48 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: The Omen
June in Japan
Sept in US
December everywhere else

No way. November in Japan and US. March-ish everywhere else.
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Post by: Mario on May 06, 2006, 01:09:30 AM: Nintendo Europe have consistantly mentioned a 2006 release date, i'll believe them for now.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on May 06, 2006, 01:32:02 AM: Nintendo isn't exactly known for releasing products in Europe around the same time as North America and Japan though. Of course maybe with the Wii that might change.
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Post by: Requiem on May 06, 2006, 02:50:51 AM: I read the original IGN post, and it's' a bit less shady than most of you might believe.

It's still shady though.

Is it true? Naw, no way. Final dev kits don't go out till June. What games could possibly be complete by June with no Final dev kits?
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 06, 2006, 06:08:18 AM: If they don't change the name, then there's no point in stockpiling the systems in their warehouses, since no one's going to buy the system. It's like buying condoms...from a 90 year old lady working in the electronics department.
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Post by: SgtShiversBen on May 06, 2006, 06:18:47 AM: ...ive done that!

am i mature yet?
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Post by: Strell on May 06, 2006, 06:35:22 AM: It depends. Did you punch the old bat after she handed over the goods?

Cuz I did.
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Post by: BigJim on May 06, 2006, 06:38:54 AM: It's BS.

If developers don't have final dev hardware, they're not stockpiling final consumer products. And it is retarded to stockpile an inventory for half a year. There are a LOT of costs associated with that. They'll start production no sooner than a quarter before launch.
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Post by: stevey on May 06, 2006, 09:06:02 AM: I hope so, I want a wii to play with by this summer.
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 06, 2006, 09:24:21 AM: Wii'll find out in a few days
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Post by: IceCold on May 06, 2006, 10:50:56 AM: I'm still going with September in Japan, early October in North America, and November in Europe.
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Post by: eljefe on May 06, 2006, 11:27:56 AM: On the same visit she told Jawabreaker that she would be replacing the DS kiosks in June (with DSlites) and that Nintendo only tells them to do that when its about to release. So this same source (the Nintendo rep) "predicted" the DSlite release in June [on may 1st... the official DSlite announcement was on the 4th.]

That's the only thing that makes me give her Wii "prediciton" a second thought.
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Post by: jasonditz on May 06, 2006, 12:13:23 PM: NEC hasn't made delivery of the memory chips yet.
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Post by: Ceric on May 06, 2006, 12:15:10 PM: Actually wasn't there a similar rumor near the beginning of the year citing that Nintendo might be starting Wii production in April. In all actuallity I wouldn't be to surprised if the production has already started. I t gives them some time and I'm sure part of the final dev kits is an actual Wii. It would also explain why Nintendos biggest response to people moaning about the name is "Deal with it." That pretty much says it's a done deal right there. My Prediction is this, assuming production has started:

What we'll see at E3 will be first run Wii's.
By the end of the month/begining of next month Final Dev kits we'll be out with actual final Wii's.
About a month after that Since Nintendo insists that we must feel the Wii to know the Wii. Press Wii's will go out with a strict agreement that if you sell these Nintendo will no longer do business with you.
Just a note Nintendo will have dedicated resources to prevent the sale and the punishment of the seller of these units.
A month of Press coverage/unit shipping.

So that puts at a September launch.

I feel that this would be the best way to go about it give maybe a Month or Two on the launch and the press Wii's. (So instead maybe September/August or August/October or even August/November but no later than August on the Press Wii's) Another note at the point before launch Nintendo will know by serial number who Wii belongs to who.

Also since Wii ends in a vowel is it Wiis or Wii's. Because with GCN it's GCN's because it's a acronym. The fun of made up words.

Edit: I found the link my comments when the memory shipments were told to be September. I think it helps with my timetable.

What I said when the Memory shipment was rumored
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Post by: jasonditz on May 06, 2006, 12:36:13 PM: They're using 1T-SRAM, but I doubt that's going to mean they're using literally just X number of the old Cube chips. Doing so would seem to negate the power consumption benefits
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Post by: Ceric on May 06, 2006, 12:40:17 PM: Correct me if I'm wrong I'm not an electric engineer I just hang out with a lot. But I thought if there using the same amount of ram then the ram will always pull X for every MB. So of course with more MB of ram you draw X more energy. Doesn't matter if it's done in 1 chip or 5. You'll still draw X energy but you take up more space with more chips. But I could be wrong.
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Post by: jasonditz on May 06, 2006, 12:53:07 PM: That seems unlikely, but I'm honestly not sure.

Still, the space question is serious enough... the Wii is very small, will there physically be room on the board for umpteen memory chips?
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Post by: AnyoneEB on May 06, 2006, 01:28:57 PM: Ceric: I am not an EE either, but I think smaller (narrower wires) components tend to draw less power, and more recent components tend to be smaller. (Less transistors would also draw less power, but I have a feeling that all 1T-RAM has one transistor per bit. )

On the release date, I would still be a bit surprised about a US release date before November. Remember that Nintendo can have all the consoles they want stockpiled, but they can't release until the release games are done and pressed. Also, didn't Nintendo say they wanted to do a world-wide release?
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Post by: Ceric on May 06, 2006, 04:30:23 PM: 1T-SRAM Wikipedia Entry

Because knowledge is power and knowing is half the battle. GI...

Size would be an issue with the Wii. I wonder if there going to use both sides of the board.
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Post by: nemo_83 on May 06, 2006, 04:51:45 PM: Nintendo Reps are a lying bunch of farts. My cousin was told by one that DS would not be going online about a month before they unveiled their wifi plans. Don't believe anything they say.

This rumor contradicts rumors that few third parties have final hardware, as in maybe just SquarEnix.
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Post by: jasonditz on May 06, 2006, 05:10:41 PM: Iwata said a worldwide launch was not a neccesity. I'd hope to see a Sept. or Oct. launch, just so that we're not fighting with Xmas crowds to get one.

Imagine if they launched the day after Thanksgiving?
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Post by: BigJim on May 06, 2006, 05:31:49 PM: Wasn't it already told by Iwata that they're shooting for Thanksgiving? I wouldn't hold my breath for anything much sooner than that.
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Post by: UncleBob on May 06, 2006, 05:37:39 PM: Thanksgiving for NA or for Japan?

And if it's Thanksgiving for Japan, does that mean the US will launch before or after Japan?
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Post by: BigJim on May 06, 2006, 05:42:56 PM: He stated "by Thanksgiving" for North America.

If the memory is not being shipped until September as someone else mentioned, then that removes any chance of anything sooner than October, but November is MUCH more likely. For any region.

It looks like a semi-worldwide launch... not necessarily the same day/week, but pretty close. Unless the N.A. market get it first like the DS.
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Post by: IceCold on May 06, 2006, 07:43:39 PM: Quote
He stated "by Thanksgiving" for North America.
I'm predicting Canadian Thanksgiving (Oct 9)
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 07, 2006, 12:33:07 AM: November 21st in the US. Mark my words.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 07, 2006, 12:43:46 AM: Dirk don't you think that is a tad bit risky? PS3 is supposed to come out at almost the exact same time, I can't imagine Nintendo doing that.
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Post by: Ceric on May 07, 2006, 04:42:46 AM: Second. Same day Console launches is like shooting yourself in the foot with someone elses gun.
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Post by: Terranigma Freak on May 07, 2006, 07:27:25 AM: According to AOL, Metroid Prime 3 is pratically done. So who knows.
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Post by: BigJim on May 07, 2006, 08:38:08 AM: I think they'll both launch in November also.

They'll both nearly sell out and have limited supplies through the holiday, so I don't think an overlap matters in the off-chance it did happen to be the exact same day.
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Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 08:39:24 AM: A same day launch will matter a lot if you want to play the media and PR game.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 09:04:48 AM: i dont think its that farfetched that the production is on the way and they are stock piling them in a warehouse. they don't want a 360 type fiasco, and if Wii can cause the buzz that DS has, they definately don't want shortages in japan (like the DSL).

according to a buddy of mine from toys r us, they should be getting their first shipment of DSL's in a week or so. agian, thats just the initial shipment. Nintendo wants to make sure there is enough units at their retailers, even though the system doesnt come out until next month.
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Post by: Caliban on May 07, 2006, 09:43:17 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: IceCold
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He stated "by Thanksgiving" for North America.
I'm predicting Canadian Thanksgiving (Oct 9)

Me too, well I'm not really predicting, I just want it as early as possible.
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Post by: UncleBob on May 07, 2006, 09:49:48 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: EasyCure
according to a buddy of mine from toys r us, they should be getting their first shipment of DSL's in a week or so. agian, thats just the initial shipment. Nintendo wants to make sure there is enough units at their retailers, even though the system doesnt come out until next month.

That doesn't particularly sound right.

Most retailers don't want to sit on product on inventory any longer than they have to. Now, let's say there's 6 DSLites in a case and a store's "First Shipment" is 5 cases, that's about $4,000.. That doesn't seem like much, but to sit on $4,000 excess inventory for about a month? I know DMs (Market Managers) in Wal*Mart that would slit Department Manager's throats for such a thing.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 10:01:46 AM: you have a point, a good one at that. im just stating what a friend of mine who happens to work at the retailer told me. he's never lied to me before and he even plans on getting fired from his job because he wants to take one of the DSL's for a personal test run.
used to do the same thing at the GS he worked at.
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Post by: BigJim on May 07, 2006, 10:34:18 AM: They don't have to start 6 months in advance to avoid a 360 situation. The costs would be large and they'd lose money hand over fist before it even launched. Manufacturing, moving material, utilities, insurance, taxes... They'd be better off having a shortage.
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Post by: couchmonkey on May 07, 2006, 05:05:13 PM: I say launch a couple of weeks before Sony if possible. That seemed to give Microsoft an edge with Xbox vs. GameCube.
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Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 05:16:00 PM: Did Sony official delay their PS3 or are they still shooting for June?

If it's the latter, then I believe Nintendo could be stock-piling in case they had to launch real soon.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on May 07, 2006, 05:24:18 PM: Ahahaha, it's the like Cold War over here. Nintendo's stocking up just in case they need to counter Sony's surprise launch.
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Post by: IceCold on May 07, 2006, 05:31:31 PM: A state of mutually assured destruction and brinksmanship are the only ways to go..
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 07, 2006, 05:32:14 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Ahahaha, it's the like Cold War over here. Nintendo's stocking up just in case they need to counter Sony's surprise launch.

I admit, I haven't heard that comparison before
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Post by: Ceric on May 07, 2006, 06:28:59 PM: Yeah. But know that I've heard it it makes sense. Also how long does it take to ship by boat from Japan to USA? Also what is the shipping time to Europe. Boat is suppose to be cheaper then air and can carry a vast amount of equipment. That might say the compensation. Ship by boat the consumer units. Fly by air the developers and press units. Give enough time that you can produce the unit count you need at roughly half the production speed because the plants are yet to be at full capacity. By the time the product actually hits the other shore production should have the kinks out and greater yields.