Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: The Omen on May 04, 2006, 12:30:48 PM
Title: IP Resurrection Predictions! (Tension breaker)
Post by: The Omen on May 04, 2006, 12:30:48 PM
It's fairly common knowledge that Nintendo will be bringing back at least one of their old IPs for the Wii. Which old Nintendo property are you looking to be announced for wii the people at E3? Predictions abound! Give details as to who will be bringing it back,whether a 3rd party or Nintendo, and all that junk.
Mine? You know it! Kid Icarus! It may seem like an easy one, but it's been over, what, 15 years since Pit appeared in his own game? And that was on the Game Boy. So it's not as though this is a foregone conclusion.
Who will make it? Going out on a limb here....Retro
3d or 2d? Retro will use third person for the majority of the game, but there will be certain side scrolling levels(or vertical scrollers) to play like the old school Kid Icarus. Maybe 2.5d. Perhaps when you make your way to the shop, you must climb through old styled levels? Mini game levels? Archery levels?!
E, Teen or Mature? Hmm, I'll go out on a limb and say mature. Perhaps an epic, violent struggle between greek gods within ancient mythology could tip this into mature territory. I don't think it will be gore filled, but it will be violent enough, and the story itself will be mature.
launch title? Nope. Spring '07. It'll be shown in video form, with perhaps one playable level. Hopefully.
Use of Revmote? Integral
final title The Flight of Icarus: Fire in the Sky
Next!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 04, 2006, 12:33:27 PM
I do think Kid Icarus is in the works, but I don't think it would/should be violent enough to warrant a Mature rating...
Also, Pilotwings! But I'm hoping that's already been confirmed somewhat!
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Post by: The Omen on May 04, 2006, 12:41:34 PM
Quote do think Kid Icarus is in the works, but I don't think it would/should be violent enough to warrant a Mature rating...
I don't think it will be rated mature for violence, but for the overall theme.
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Post by: Caliban on May 04, 2006, 12:42:19 PM
I want Faxanadu, even if it isn't Nintendo's IP.
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Post by: mantidor on May 04, 2006, 12:50:47 PM
You know, it actually makes sense to make a mature Kid Ikarus, the focus fanbase of that game is already in their twenties or more. That wont necesarly guarantee an M rating though, I dont see Nintendo putting blood and gore in the game, but a mature aproach should be welcomed.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 04, 2006, 01:08:39 PM
I would assume the most likely candidate for a resurrection would be Pilotwings considering such a rumour even made PGC's front page.
People say Kid Icarus so much it's like a buzzword. Most of the people asking for a new version probably have never even played the original game.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 04, 2006, 01:09:57 PM
I have, so that makes me eligible to want another addition to the series...
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Post by: MysticGohan on May 04, 2006, 01:17:53 PM
vice versa here bill I hope we'll see it at E3
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Post by: Ceric on May 04, 2006, 01:22:38 PM
I played the Gameboy version because I heard it was good and couldn't find it for NES. That being said I'm a little indifferent on whether they make another or not.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2006, 01:39:07 PM
i like the title you gave it Omen, maybe they can use Iron Maiden's "flight of the icarus" as the opening theme; that'd be bad ass
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Post by: The Omen on May 04, 2006, 01:42:28 PM
Quote i like the title you gave it Omen, maybe they can use Iron Maiden's "flight of the icarus" as the opening theme; that'd be bad ass
Hell yeah! Great song!
Quote People say Kid Icarus so much it's like a buzzword. Most of the people asking for a new version probably have never even played the original game.
I actually bought both Metroid and Kid Icarus for 29.99 each on the same day in about....1987? Maybe earlier..they were released around the same time. I know of what I speak....
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 04, 2006, 01:46:07 PM
I was just looking at a list of old Nintendo games, pondering which ones could be improved by the remote, when I found Mario and Wario. I had forgotten all about this game. It's essentially a puzzle game in the same vein as Lemmings, only instead of a horde of mindless critters, you guide a blinded Mario. It was played using the SNES mouse, with which you controlled a fairy who interacted with elements in the environment.
Now imagine that instead of a point and click interface, you actually used the remote to affect things more directly. For example, you might have to turn a crank to raise a bridge, or use a rope and pulley to lift something, or cut a rope to drop something, or fan a fire to burn something, or get Mario to hit a switch at the same time you do. What you could do would depend on what tools were available to you in a given level.
Who'd develop it? Well, Game Freak did the original, so they might as well do this one. They've shown that they still have what it takes to develop non-pokemon games with Drill Dozer.
2d or 3d? I'm not sure. guiding Mario through a 3d environment without being able to control him directly could be cumbersome, but puzzles using the remote would probably be better in 3d. I'll say 3d, with set paths for Mario to follow so you don't have to worry about getting him lined up just right to not walk off the side of a bridge.
The only problem is that I don't really expect an announcement at E3, or a return of this game ever, for that matter, but you got me thinking.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2006, 01:51:26 PM
its sad i've never actually played kid icarus. i've heard such good things about it but i was just too young. that and its not a game my older brother owned, so i never got to play it when i was 3 or 4 (when i started playing NES). in that thread i linked i was just talking out my ass about how they could turn kid icarus into a God of War killer and have pit flying around and shooting arrows at the gods. like i said i never played the original but if i had, i dont think i'd want it to take a drastic change to try to compete with a game like GoW. i merely tried to be silly. i will say this agian though, if it happens, i called it.
oh and the more i think about it, they SHOULD use the iron maiden song in it, if even just for ad's for the game.
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Post by: mantidor on May 04, 2006, 01:52:48 PM
On the contrary, I had never played Metroid or Kid Icarus in my life, the announcement of Metroid Prime made me curious, and I got downloaded Super Metroid which basically made a fanboy instantly and I started having the same doubts about first person and everything. I even tried my best in the hard-as-hell NES metroid and also loved it.
With Kid Icarus I have to admit, I didnt really made any progress in the game, it didnt appeal to me. Metroid makes you start searching and upgrading from the very first corridor, I dont even know if Kid Icarus is similar to Metroid in that aspect, I kept going up and up and it seemed more like a vertical Mario than something so fresh, moody and original as Metroid was.
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Post by: The Omen on May 04, 2006, 01:53:47 PM
I would be lying if I didn't say my secret hope is Shadowrun being remade, or updated. I love me some Shadowrun on the Snes. I think Data East made the game, but I believe it was a pen and paper game first. So who knows who owns it, I'm too lazy to look. Ah hell...
Here's what I found, and it's troubling indeed: Shadowrun was developed and published by FASA Corporation from 1989 until early 2001, when FASA closed its doors and the property was sold to WizKids who licenses the RPG rights to the current publisher, Fantasy Productions (also known as FanPro, also responsible for the German version). WizKids produced an unsuccessful collectible action figure game based on the property called Shadowrun: Duels.
Shadowrun is currently in its fourth edition, which brings significant changes to the game's system and setting. The fourth edition was released at GenCon in August, 2005.
The Shadowrun role-playing game, various expansions, and a Shadowrun collectible card game have won Origins Awards.
Video games for the Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, and in Japan only, the Sega Mega-CD have been created with entirely different story lines, although they all take place within the same Shadowrun universe. They are generally faithful to the pen and paper game. A first-person shooter video game was announced by Microsoft for the Xbox 360 in July 2005.
Leave it to MS to screw up the game and make it a lowly FPS. Bastards!
Quote i merely tried to be silly. i will say this agian though, if it happens, i called it.
Hey, get in line kid, I've been calling for it since the Snes days, and I'm sure there are eons of lost threads around here with me just begging for an updated Icarus game.
Quote With Kid Icarus I have to admit, I didnt really made any progress in the game, it didnt appeal to me. Metroid makes you start searching and upgrading from the very first corridor, I dont even know if Kid Icarus is similar to Metroid in that aspect, I kept going up and up and it seemed more like a vertical Mario than something so fresh, moody and original as Metroid was.
Kid Icarus was an odd combo of platforming, small rpg elements, and cool levels and enemies, along with Egg plants! To me Metroid and Icarus go hand and hand, because they were both very unique and released fairly close together. But Kid Icarus always seemed trippy and cool to me. Metroid was dark and lonely, and I love them both.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2006, 02:06:54 PM
oh im sure theres a very long line.
as for an IP resurrection i'd like to see, hmm...
its tough cuz i dont remember alot of the games we had for NES that werent mario, zelda or megaman., and the ones i do remember i wouldn't want to be resurrected or have been.
actually i want to say megaman. the series looks dead but maybe the wiimote could bring something new to the series? maybe like a GOOD 3d megaman game. i dont want that legends or battle network crap. i want something either megaman or megaman x. Im a fan of the blue bomber and would like to see the series reinvented and brought back to glory. something that could outshine even mega man 2. i want capcom to actually try and make a good (mega man) game.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 04, 2006, 02:15:07 PM
"i like the title you gave it Omen, maybe they can use Iron Maiden's "flight of the icarus" as the opening theme; that'd be bad ass"
Normally I'm against using licenced music in games but perhaps the problem until now has merely been that the music that gets used always sucks. Having a whomp-ass killer song like this might change my mind on the subject.
I'm humming that song and doing air guitar at my work desk as I type this.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2006, 02:17:36 PM
stil fairly new to posting here on pgc forums and i got ian sane to say something positive. that my friends, has made my day.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 04, 2006, 03:13:53 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane "i like the title you gave it Omen, maybe they can use Iron Maiden's "flight of the icarus" as the opening theme; that'd be bad ass"
Normally I'm against using licenced music in games but perhaps the problem until now has merely been that the music that gets used always sucks. Having a whomp-ass killer song like this might change my mind on the subject.
I'm humming that song and doing air guitar at my work desk as I type this.
Personally whenever I think Kid Icarus I think Kansas' "Icarus ~Borne on Wings of Steel~"... =D
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Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2006, 03:57:16 PM
Quote I'm humming that song and doing air guitar at my work desk as I type this.
i just realized ian, your air guitar either really really sucks or is INCREDIBLE in that you can type and play air guitar at once.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 04, 2006, 04:49:00 PM
If Nintendo internally develops an M-rated title, I'll eat my foot.
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Post by: Caliban on May 04, 2006, 05:21:03 PM
Cobra Triangle. Come on, you know you want it!
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Post by: The Omen on May 04, 2006, 05:42:09 PM
Quote Cobra Triangle. Come on, you know you want it!
I do sir. That and Rc Pro Am which were both made by Rare, though I'm sure they're not Rare properties.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on May 04, 2006, 05:42:25 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo If Nintendo internally develops an M-rated title, I'll eat my foot.
Yours would be the first of a long line of feet to be consumed were it to happen.
And I have to admit, I'm curious about this song now...
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Post by: The Omen on May 04, 2006, 06:02:56 PM
Quote Yours would be the first of a long line of feet to be consumed were it to happen.
You guys better get some A-1 ready!
Quote And I have to admit, I'm curious about this song now...
It's a great song, but I'm partial to Iron Maiden. I love all their songs as long as Dickinson is the singer(barring their first two albums of course, which are awesome as well despite Dickinson not getting on the scene until album 3),
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Post by: Galford on May 04, 2006, 06:45:43 PM
I'll go with Kid Icarus. Never played the first, but did own the GB game at one point in time. It would be nice to see Star Tropics again.
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Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 04, 2006, 06:57:19 PM
you know who really impress me --> Iced Earth. They're basically Maiden and Priest in one shiny metal package
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 04, 2006, 09:04:08 PM
Quote Originally posted by: MysticGohan vice versa here bill I hope we'll see it at E3
Uh, what? You want a new one therefore you are eligible to play the first?
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Post by: MysticGohan on May 04, 2006, 09:15:15 PM
eh? I see what you did... No sir, you will not reverse this one on me. I've played the original and looking forward to a new game in the series. long overdued :p
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Post by: wandering on May 04, 2006, 09:23:50 PM
I like your Mario and Wario idea, partybear.
I'd also be interested in seeing Kid Icarus getting ressurrected, yes.
[edit: after reading the thread starter again, I've decided this last part was just way too off topic.]
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Post by: Svevan on May 04, 2006, 10:02:08 PM
Earthbound.
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Post by: TrueNerd on May 04, 2006, 10:35:36 PM
Ooh, Earthbound. That would be one of many games that I plan to download on the virtual console as I have not played it. I am told I am missing out. I should start writing these games down somewhere that I want to download...
Anyways, I want Punch-Out! Some people say Fight Night is perfect for the Wii, but have any of you played Round 3? It's as much a Burger King commercial as it is a boxing game. No thanks. Plus, Punch-Out! is more of a arcade-ish take on boxing, which always appeals to me more then realism. There's been talk of this being resurrected, so hopefully it is true.
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Post by: Ignorante on May 04, 2006, 10:42:31 PM
Punch Out FTR.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 05, 2006, 06:18:29 AM
Quote Originally posted by: TrueNerd Ooh, Earthbound. That would be one of many games that I plan to download on the virtual console as I have not played it. I am told I am missing out. I should start writing these games down somewhere that I want to download...q]
you are missing out, its one of the funniest games out there and the only RPG i've ever been able to keep interest in (well mario rpg too, but EB was first). maybe with the hardware updates the EB team can make one for Wii but it would take forever. they took forever on n64 and canceled it, and just recently released it on GBA. it would be safe to assume another game for gba or ds than wii at this point.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 05, 2006, 06:19:40 AM
Mystic: Then don't say "It's the other way around for me".
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Post by: The Omen on May 05, 2006, 07:19:08 AM
Solomon's Key! I play this game all the time on my NES, and it would truly fit with the new Wiimote. It's a cool little puzzle game. Anyone else know this game? If so, then you too know it's perfect for a rebirth on the Wii.
I still haven't beat the thing, and I've been playing it off and on for something like 20 years. I think there is 50 boards, and two continues. Though now that I think about it, I usually beat every game I played back then, so maybe I beat this and forgot. At any rate, get this game!
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Post by: mantidor on May 05, 2006, 07:26:51 AM
Wait we arent limiting ourselves to Nintendo's IP?
Then I want:
Thief
Heretic/Hexen
The Incredible Machine
Ill die if these get announced.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 05, 2006, 07:34:51 AM
Quote Originally posted by: The Omen Solomon's Key! I play this game all the time on my NES, and it would truly fit with the new Wiimote. It's a cool little puzzle game. Anyone else know this game? If so, then you too know it's perfect for a rebirth on the Wii.
I know that it was a game that severely needed a save system of some sort. I never did get very far, and it was such a pain to have to work through the puzzles I'd already solved every time that I gave up very quickly. It was fun, though.
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Post by: The Omen on May 05, 2006, 07:37:35 AM
Quote Wait we arent limiting ourselves to Nintendo's IP?
We were...then I let my NES/SNES love get the best of me.
Honestly, a new Bionic Commando will be announced for thre Wii. How f'n sweet with the Wiimote.
Okay, back to Nintendo IPs.....
Urban Champion!
Quote Heretic/Hexen
Was Hexen on the N64? I think I used to love that game....
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Post by: Smash_Brother on May 05, 2006, 08:12:05 AM
Incredible Machine would RULE on the Rev!
Also, Ice Climbers need to make a come back...
Quote Originally posted by: The Omen You guys better get some A-1 ready!
A-1, it's how feet are DONE.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 05, 2006, 08:40:17 AM
Since we seem to be talking less about making predictions and instead just listing dream games I want another Mario RPG made by Square. Of course it's been so long I wonder if Square Enix of today would be able to make something as magical as Super Mario RPG anymore.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 05, 2006, 09:36:00 AM
What, you didn't like the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi games?
Me, I don't recall any titles from way back when that would really need a resurrection and didn't get it. I mean hell, even friggin Gunstar Heroes already got its remake! There were Jazz Jackrabbit and Commander Keen but Jazz already had a 3d game that was cancelled and Keen has been handed off to some incompetent GBA dev. Hm... Unreal Engine 3.0 turtle blasting... Stopping Mortimer in a Doom 3 engine game...
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 05, 2006, 09:37:25 AM
"What, you didn't like the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi games?"
They're alright. They just ain't Super Mario RPG good.
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Post by: PaLaDiN on May 05, 2006, 09:40:42 AM
That's because they're better.
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Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 05, 2006, 09:48:30 AM
I want a badminton game. I'm not so sure about american audiences, but the rest of the world would eat it up
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Post by: vudu on May 05, 2006, 09:56:48 AM
I'd like to see a modern Famicom Detective Club. It could be a really cool graphic adventure that would fit well with the controller. Rather than release one huge game, I'd almost prefer Nintendo release a series of smaller cases via the virtual console.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 05, 2006, 10:01:44 AM
"I'd like to see a modern Famicom Detective Club. It could be a really cool graphic adventure that would fit well with the controller. Rather than release one huge game, I'd almost prefer Nintendo release a series of smaller cases via the virtual console."
YES, PLEASE! And I'd like to see Cing take the helm! (Though a Wii version of Another Code would be almost as good!)
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Post by: mantidor on May 05, 2006, 11:16:31 AM
Quote Originally posted by: The Omen
Was Hexen on the N64? I think I used to love that game....
Yes, it was a port of the PC game...
We should stop, not even half of our dreams will come true, so lets just stick to the semi-announced kid Icarus
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Post by: JoeTrumpet on May 05, 2006, 03:56:27 PM
I think NiGHTS would be perfect. They seem to finally have the tools now to make a sequel better than the first.
As for Nintendo: Mario Paint that fly-swatting mini-game was gold.