Post by: Smash_Brother on May 01, 2006, 07:15:07 PM
Anyone have any quotes or whatnot from notable devs on what they think of it?
Post by: wandering on May 01, 2006, 07:28:28 PM
I doubt you'll hear any genuine opinions about the name in official interviews or whatnot, devs working on Wii games wouldn't really want to say anything negative about the system.
Post by: JonLeung on May 01, 2006, 07:29:08 PM
I remember GameSpot mentioning a mysterious postcard from Kojima's branch at Konami regarding an upcoming next-gen Nintendo game that featured several words begining with "RE". Which is, I guess, similar in spelling to "Rev." and similar sounding to "Wii"...then again, the RE could mean something else entirely, but considering their Twin Snakes video with several NGCs and MGS4 with FPSs...okay, now I'm rambling.
I'm sure if developers were making something for it, they wouldn't pull the ol' fanboy gut reaction and go "bleagh" and stop all their hard work. They're not going to cancel a project just 'cause it might end up in Wii.
Post by: wandering on May 01, 2006, 07:40:17 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 01, 2006, 08:39:26 PM
As a dev I would consider such a name pretty essential information. I think the name will potentially damage the Rev's success in North America. That is a HUGE deal for third parties. In most cases a name would be non-essential but normally you assume that a company wouldn't pick something too horrible. Nintendo KNEW they had a controversial name so it isn't very nice of them to intentionally hide it from third parties. But then just the fact that they knew they had to reveal the name prior to E3 because of the anticipated backlash, yet still went with such a name is mindboggling to begin with.
Still a third party likely wouldn't cancel a game over it but they might take a wait and see approach before commiting to any future products. Personally I would be pissed that my game's potential sales had been compromised because Nintendo's marketers are dumb as bricks.
Post by: Grant10k on May 01, 2006, 09:06:54 PM
Post by: eljefe on May 02, 2006, 02:30:54 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"I doubt many, if any, devs knew. Completley non-essential information. Nintendo wouldn't want to risk the name getting leaked, or devs making bad predictions on how well the console would sell based on the final name."
As a dev I would consider such a name pretty essential information. I think the name will potentially damage the Rev's success in North America. That is a HUGE deal for third parties. In most cases a name would be non-essential but normally you assume that a company wouldn't pick something too horrible. Nintendo KNEW they had a controversial name so it isn't very nice of them to intentionally hide it from third parties. But then just the fact that they knew they had to reveal the name prior to E3 because of the anticipated backlash, yet still went with such a name is mindboggling to begin with.
Still a third party likely wouldn't cancel a game over it but they might take a wait and see approach before commiting to any future products. Personally I would be pissed that my game's potential sales had been compromised because Nintendo's marketers are dumb as bricks.
Which is exactly why Nintendo didn't tell 'em. If the name would "scare" consumers who think 3rd parties will pass on development due to the name....and the name would "scare" 3rd parties because they think consumers will pass on buying it....then, you kill two birds with one stone by making sure there's plenty of developer support BEFORE EITHER GROUP KNOWS THE NAME.
Post by: Artimus on May 02, 2006, 03:12:20 AM
Post by: Ceric on May 02, 2006, 04:17:16 AM
Post by: Artimus on May 02, 2006, 05:02:55 AM
There we go. It's all small ones, though.
Post by: eljefe on May 02, 2006, 05:23:24 AM
with the exception of the dude from Manifesto. He was trying to sound intelligent, when he probably already is and doesn't need to pretend to be. It came off sounding really lame, even though he made some reasonable points.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 06:44:47 AM
The truth is, the comments will come after the reaction is gauged, and if the wee fails, everyone will blame it on the name.
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 02, 2006, 07:46:37 AM
QuoteQuick summery: "Geez, I really do not like the name, at all. But, hot damn do I ever want to make games for the system."
Originally posted by: Artimus
http://gamasutra.com/features/20060501/sheffield_01.shtml
There we go. It's all small ones, though.
Agree, disagree?
Post by: mantidor on May 02, 2006, 07:48:54 AM
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 02, 2006, 08:01:49 AM
QuoteHonestly, then, what's the problem? Stop having such conniption fits over the name. It's just a name.
Originally posted by: mantidor
Id say thats the summary of the entire internet response to the name.
And, no, it does not mean Wee Wee or Piss or any other potty joke you can think of. And, No, you are not queer or a homo for wanting to play with your Wii or with your same sex friends on their Wii. Just grow up, get over those rediculus associations, and have fun.
Post by: Artimus on May 02, 2006, 08:03:06 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Honestly, then, what's the problem? Stop having such conniption fits over the name. It's just a name.
The problem is that ANY trouble is totally unecessary. Why make things even slightly more difficult?
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 08:07:24 AM
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Honestly, then, what's the problem? Stop having such conniption fits over the name. It's just a name.
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The problem is that ANY trouble is totally unecessary. Why make things even slightly more difficult?
Agree.
Can we please put the wee and pee crap to a rest? Most concerned with the name Wii don't even bring that aspect up. People who do not like the name are more concerned with trying to market the name, and want Nintendo to succeed, even dominate, so choosing a name so ridiculous, in our opinion, is potentially harmful. That is all.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 08:09:57 AM
So why use such a name in the first place? If you have to hide it from third parties for fear that the name will scare them off why go with that name? This whole thing makes no sense. Nintendo apparently was aware that the name would be incredibly unpopular so they didn't tell devs about it and annouced it prior to E3 so as to not let it draw attention from their games. Why would you ever go with a name you know sucks and you know is going to be unpopular and you know could have severely damaged you if it was revealed at the wrong time? This is like showing up for a job interview in your underwear while being fully aware that it will make it considerably harder for you to get the job.
Nintendo is somehow smart enough to know that "Wii" was going to cause a huge backlash but yet isn't smart enough to realize that that's an obvious sign that the name is a poor choice.
Post by: mantidor on May 02, 2006, 08:12:58 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 FlavasQuoteHonestly, then, what's the problem? Stop having such conniption fits over the name. It's just a name.
Originally posted by: mantidor
Id say thats the summary of the entire internet response to the name.
And, no, it does not mean Wee Wee or Piss or any other potty joke you can think of. And, No, you are not queer or a homo for wanting to play with your Wii or with your same sex friends on their Wii. Just grow up, get over those rediculus associations, and have fun.
Thats a mistake many of you are making, you think the mainstream is at the same level as you, but they arent, its the reason Paris Hilton is popular for nothing and reality tv tops the charts, the mainstream is THAT stupid.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 08:13:58 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas And, no, it does not mean Wee Wee or Piss or any other potty joke you can think of. And, No, you are not queer or a homo for wanting to play with your Wii or with your same sex friends on their Wii. Just grow up, get over those rediculus associations, and have fun.
First of all, it's not this board I'm worried about. It's the remainder of the world who, coincidentally, Nintendo says they're trying to market to, who I'm worried about.
Second, "wee" IS a common synonym for urinating in some European territories. It's clear Nintendo didn't consider the connotations indifferent languages.
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 02, 2006, 08:30:30 AM
QuoteWell if we are going to break down the wall that seperates gamers from non-gamers... Shouldn't we also break the image/reality that video gamers are elitest pricks? And what better way would there be, then making video gamers, even Nintendo video gamers, deal with and get over their insecurities by naming the next must gotta have system something that evokes these insecurities?
Originally posted by: ArtimusQuote
Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Honestly, then, what's the problem? Stop having such conniption fits over the name. It's just a name.
The problem is that ANY trouble is totally unecessary. Why make things even slightly more difficult?
The formerly named Revolution is something that just about everyone seems to want or at least try out, aside from the requisite $200, Nintendo is asking you to kindly leave your insecurites at the door.
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 08:36:29 AM
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And what better way would there be, then making video gamers, even Nintendo video gamers, deal with and get over their insecurities by naming the next must gotta have system something that evokes these insecurities?
Ironically, I think it's the people who are defending the name with so much zeal that are insecure, if you really want to be psychological for a moment. These so called insecure people who don't like the name are on record saying they're buying it regardless, so obvoiously, they aren't showing any insecurity whatsoever. The way you are so condenscending about it, it's like you're becoming defensive, which most do when they're insecure.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 08:39:09 AM
I'm just worried that sales in the US will, well, suck, and as a consequence, it'll wind up with few to no 3rd party devs making games for it later in its lifespan, just like the GC.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 08:40:43 AM
I think that is far too clever to be a successful marketing campaign. Marketing needs to be dumbed down because only idiots respond well to it. Smart people are intelligent enough to form their own opinions regardless of what a commercial tells them to.
Plus that's the Radioactive Man movie "This place must be hot. They don't need a big ad or even correct spelling." logic.
And Nintendo has been asking people kindly to leave their insecurities at the door for two generations now. The result: last place in the North American market. Being incredibly uncool didn't get Nintendo anywhere before but NOW it's going to make them a runaway success?
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 08:51:36 AM
Hey, if they can do it, I'll be all for it, but I ain't holding my breath.
Also, I thought I'd point out this Apple ad for subtle references to insecurity:
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac_ads1/networking_480x376.mov
The ad uses people to represent electronic devices, and yet, the "Japanese camera" is a hot Japanese girl which the mac can "network with" easily because he speaks every language. The PC, on the other hand, is left with no attention from said camera.
The implication of the commercial is simple and obvious: Mac users get laid because they're open minded and flexible. PC users don't.
Change the PC to the "Wii", the Mac to a 360/PS3 and the peripheral to a specific game or online service unique to the PS3/360 and you have the exact same concept.
I don't expect Sony/MS' advertising to be this smart about it, but this is what comparison ads can and will do.
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 02, 2006, 08:56:26 AM
QuoteOk, well, i'm sorry. I'm not intentionally trying to sound superior. If anything i'm trying to help people along in accepting the name. So i'll just end this discussion (from my end, at least).
Originally posted by: The Omen
Ironically, I think it's the people who are defending the name with so much zeal that are insecure, if you really want to be psychological for a moment. These so called insecure people who don't like the name are on record saying they're buying it regardless, so obvoiously, they aren't showing any insecurity whatsoever. The way you are so condenscending about it, it's like you're becoming defensive, which most do when they're insecure.
Post by: Artimus on May 02, 2006, 08:59:13 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 FlavasQuoteWell if we are going to break down the wall that seperates gamers from non-gamers... Shouldn't we also break the image/reality that video gamers are elitest pricks? And what better way would there be, then making video gamers, even Nintendo video gamers, deal with and get over their insecurities by naming the next must gotta have system something that evokes these insecurities?
Originally posted by: ArtimusQuote
Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Honestly, then, what's the problem? Stop having such conniption fits over the name. It's just a name.
The problem is that ANY trouble is totally unecessary. Why make things even slightly more difficult?
The formerly named Revolution is something that just about everyone seems to want or at least try out, aside from the requisite $200, Nintendo is asking you to kindly leave your insecurites at the door.
Can a unique name not be chosen that doesn't also have negatives? I agree wholeheartedly with the principle, but do not like the actual name.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 09:07:51 AM
For one, I don't think they looked at its ramifications in english speaking countries. The US has the insecurity thing and England considers "wee" to be urinating ("Gotta have a wee in the loo!").
There are literally millions of one syllable names which would have worked fine. I'd have been happy with the "Nintendo Rii". It meets the same requirements and the syllable "re" isn't directly associated with anything. Yeah, the haters will label it "Riitarded", but at least the syllable alone isn't a synonym for anything.
Riimote, Riivolution, Riiinvent the gaming world...
It works far better, IMO.
Post by: Kairon on May 02, 2006, 09:38:42 AM
It should be telling though, that when young children are learning to pronounce the "r" sound, the often substitute "w" ... make of that what you will...
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 09:39:11 AM
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Ok, well, i'm sorry. I'm not intentionally trying to sound superior. If anything i'm trying to help people along in accepting the name. So i'll just end this discussion (from my end, at least).
You don't have to leave...just understand I have accepted the name...I just don't like it.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 09:49:39 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 10:11:20 AM
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Originally posted by: The OmenQuote
And what better way would there be, then making video gamers, even Nintendo video gamers, deal with and get over their insecurities by naming the next must gotta have system something that evokes these insecurities?
Ironically, I think it's the people who are defending the name with so much zeal that are insecure, if you really want to be psychological for a moment. These so called insecure people who don't like the name are on record saying they're buying it regardless, so obvoiously, they aren't showing any insecurity whatsoever. The way you are so condenscending about it, it's like you're becoming defensive, which most do when they're insecure.
I have to disagree with you there, the ones defending name are not going to be embarassed by some punk at gamestop or ebgames when stating they want to buy a "Wii". Personally I could care less what others think about it, the reason why I'm defending it is because all the complainers are going to do more damage then good in the end, perhaps to something that would be fine if left alone only time will tell. If people would shut up about it for a few months to see where Nintendo goes with marketing, and then voice their opinion that would be fine, but as of now all of this is knee jerk reactions no matter how you wish to spin it. I personally see marketing potential in the name, something that even PS nor Xbox had, but then again I see it more in the design and look of the name rather than the sound.
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 10:14:02 AM
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I have to disagree with you there, the ones defending name are not going to be embarassed by some punk at gamestop or ebgames when stating they want to buy a "Wii".
I'm not embarrassed. I don't think anyone on either side of the argument will be embarrassed over it. I just think it sounds stupid. Is that opinion okay? Or should I wait three months? Besides, if you're so calm and cool with the name, then why get defensive like it's a personal attack on you?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 10:16:22 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 10:20:02 AM
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Originally posted by: The OmenQuote
I have to disagree with you there, the ones defending name are not going to be embarassed by some punk at gamestop or ebgames when stating they want to buy a "Wii".
I'm not embarrassed. I don't think anyone on either side of the argument will be embarrassed over it. I just think it sounds stupid. Is that opinion okay? Or should I wait three months? Besides, if you're so calm and cool with the name, then why get defensive like it's a personal attack on you?
I am defensive because I feel the negativity is doing much more harm than good, people are already setting both the name and in turn system up for failure without even giving Nintendo much of a chance to sell it. The same thing happened with the Wiimote, and the DS. So yes I do stick with wait until a few months before you say how stupid the name is, like many things it will become second nature. Again I point to names like Google, iPod, Amazon etc etc all are really lame when you look at them objectively.
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 11:14:38 AM
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I am defensive because I feel the negativity is doing much more harm than good, people are already setting both the name and in turn system up for failure without even giving Nintendo much of a chance to sell it. The same thing happened with the Wiimote, and the DS. So yes I do stick with wait until a few months before you say how stupid the name is, like many things it will become second nature. Again I point to names like Google, iPod, Amazon etc etc all are really lame when you look at them objectively.
Well you proved our point right there in that first sentence. If you're worried about Nintendo fans doing more harm than good, then imagine what people who aren't Nintendo fans are saying. Hence, our position that the name is at best, far from perfect, at worst, a catastrophe. That's the whole reason behind my position, at least.
Post by: Kairon on May 02, 2006, 11:24:17 AM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 11:32:55 AM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
Others have said they would be embarassed to ask for it (I am not going to give names though).
I was probably one of them.
When a new game which I badly want comes out, I tend to call local Wal-Marts to see if they got it in early (which they sometimes do).
I typically start the conversation with, "I'm looking for a game on the ______." so they immediately know which section of the shelf to check.
In this case, I will need to start the conversation with, "I'm looking for a game on the Wee." It's not too much of a stretch to see that some clerks might not get what I'm talking about and think that it's an obscene phone call.
Basically, calling about a game for Nintendo's next console can be mistaken for an obscene phone call, especially since I'm willing to bet that most Wal-Mart clerks won't even know how to pronounce it and will probably think it's pronounced "why".
That type of sh!t shouldn't even be remotely close to possible. There are easily a billion other name possibilities out there which would be just as bold and daring without being slang for anything. It's the fact that Nintendo picked THIS one which is so irksome.
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 11:33:36 AM
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This is, of course, under the assumption that regular people will react like Nintendo fans will. We already know that this is not the case at all &P.
Well, I don't know if they reacting any better or worse than Nintendo fans, but the potential issue should have never existed.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 11:37:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
This is, of course, under the assumption that regular people will react like Nintendo fans will. We already know that this is not the case at all &P.
So you have the wii's first three months of sales figures, then?
We'll see how "regular" people react when the sales numbers come out after three months and we see how the wii does in sustained sales. Until then, it's all speculation.
Don't pretend that anyone is working with anything but opinion backed up with the occasional fact here and there, and I hate to say it, but every time I start to think the wee might do alright, I think about the Wal-Mart scenario I mentioned earlier and about how your average teenager is going to react to the name and I go right back to "What the f*ck is Nintendo smoking?"
Post by: Rhoq on May 02, 2006, 11:40:05 AM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
Others have said they would be embarassed to ask for it (I am not going to give names though).
Embarrassed over what? The system's name is "Wii".
W. I. I.
If "others" are embarrassed to say "Wii" then I'd have to say that those individuals have a lot of growing-up to do.
It's not like you're walking up to the counter to buy porn. There is nothing embarrassing about it.
Post by: Kairon on May 02, 2006, 11:40:48 AM
But nevertheless, I'll be quite surprised if Wii doesn't sell out for at launch, like every console ever has.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 11:44:03 AM
God willing, most people in the US will just pronounce it "why" because it sounds better and "wee" jokes will be at a minimum.
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 02, 2006, 12:20:16 PM
QuoteWhy not just burn out the "wee" jokes by continuing to to say "We". Once the "Wee" jokes are over and done with, were back to just "We" and having fun.
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
God willing, most people in the US will just pronounce it "why" because it sounds better and "wee" jokes will be at a minimum.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 01:02:42 PM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas Why not just burn out the "wee" jokes by continuing to to say "We". Once the "Wee" jokes are over and done with, were back to just "We" and having fun.
Wii, the Nintendo fans, will have no problem doing that.
To the unconvinced, though, the first joke might be the last thought they have about the console.
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 02, 2006, 01:37:48 PM
QuoteOh come now. Yes, we'll have people crazy enough to dismiss the console just based on the name, but you need to clear the dirt from your glasses if you think then entire US or rest of the world is like that.
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Wii, the Nintendo fans, will have no problem doing that.
To the unconvinced, though, the first joke might be the last thought they have about the console.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 02:08:56 PM
Considering Nintendo weak position in the console market I would consider people dismissing the Wii as a normal reaction. Nintendo doesn't have to worry as much about scaring people away. They've done that over the last ten years. They need to get people back. I think that requires something positive that jumps out and makes people pay attention. I think "Wii" will maintain the status quo. Those who dismiss Nintendo as childish will see the Wii name and continue to dismiss Nintendo without bothering to try the system out. That's why I want a more neutral name. People won't look at a name like Revolution and think "well looks like Nintendo is still making games for babies." But with the console's sleek appearance and with Red Steel running on a kiosk they might see it and think "hey what's that?"
One thing I think really bit Nintendo in the ass last gen is that there was a bias against Nintendo and they just confirmed that bias in people's minds from the get go. People thought Nintendo was a kid's company and Nintendo confirmed it by launching in purple with Luigi's Mansion as the flagship title. People thought the lack of games problem on the N64 would continue and Nintendo confirmed that with a huge game drought following launch. If you have some bias against Nintendo "Wii" is going to maintain that bias. "Revolution" or a different name entirely might not.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 02, 2006, 02:09:16 PM
That's out of about five or six people. Ranging from 16-40 (most less than 20).
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 02:19:13 PM
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Originally posted by: The OmenQuote
I am defensive because I feel the negativity is doing much more harm than good, people are already setting both the name and in turn system up for failure without even giving Nintendo much of a chance to sell it. The same thing happened with the Wiimote, and the DS. So yes I do stick with wait until a few months before you say how stupid the name is, like many things it will become second nature. Again I point to names like Google, iPod, Amazon etc etc all are really lame when you look at them objectively.
Well you proved our point right there in that first sentence. If you're worried about Nintendo fans doing more harm than good, then imagine what people who aren't Nintendo fans are saying. Hence, our position that the name is at best, far from perfect, at worst, a catastrophe. That's the whole reason behind my position, at least.
Actually I believe Nintendo fans are overreacting and that their overreaction will send a negative vibe before people can look at it from an unbiased perspective. I'm not even sure how adults, or stereotypical "non-gamers" will view the name yet, though it does not present that "game console" image so that in itself may be positive. With that said, Nintendo fans have a tendency to overreact since they have been let down before in the past, but I truly believe things are changing but the knee jerk reactions are still there and COULD end up doing more harm than good.
I don't think anyone here believes "Wii" is perfect, but some of us, such as myself, believe that it has alot of visual potential for marketing. I've even openly stated that how it is pronounced is strange, yet I feel people will get used to it and instead focus more on the system and perhaps the visual cues given off by the name either conciously or subconciously. I do want to add one more thing, out of all the detractors I respect both yours and Smash Brothers opinions, at least you both have thought things beyond the "wee wee" jokes.
Post by: heinous_anus on May 02, 2006, 02:49:42 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
None of the people I've told have thought of wee jokes, unless someone else specifically pointed it out to them.
That's out of about five or six people. Ranging from 16-40 (most less than 20).
What's your point? I just went out today and asked 300 of my closest friends, and they all thought it was a retarded name for a video game console. Point being, neither of these surveys is incredibly accurate in gauging what the general public's reaction to the system's name will be. Maybe all of us "fearmongers" will have to eat our own words come next year at this time (I think most of us would rather have that happen than the alternative) but simply having this fear of how such a name might impact sales, impulse or otherwise, is unacceptable when Nintendo's goals could have been accomplished with zillions of other combinations of sounds that aren't so ambiguous in Engrish.
And Kairon, I like how you compare this situation to the Iraq occupation...yeah, I see the similarities... :P
VGRevolution, our "negative vibes" will only reach a mainstream audience if we go out on soapboxes and preach doom and gloom about the console, which most or all of us will surely not. The John Q. Publics that we're afraid will be turned off, or not given a reason to "come to Nintendo," as Ian put it, have never visited the forums at Gaming Age, PlanetGamecube, GameFAQs, etc. and don't regularly read Penny Arcade or Joystiq. Like that advertisement? HOO YA.
Post by: Kairon on May 02, 2006, 04:07:11 PM
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Originally posted by: heinous_anusQuote
And Kairon, I like how you compare this situation to the Iraq occupation...yeah, I see the similarities... :P
^_^
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 02, 2006, 05:06:19 PM
QuoteHonestly, I think you worry too much about everything. The same could be said for a majority of people and not just for PGC members either. E3 is just 7 days (1 week) away! Rejoice and not just about Nintendo either, rejoice about everything else happening there that is important to you. Hurra!
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
They need to get people back. I think that requires something positive that jumps out and makes people pay attention. I think "Wii" will maintain the status quo.
Post by: heinous_anus on May 02, 2006, 05:59:27 PM
Just a thought - oh, wrong thread, but does anyone know if G4 is gonna like cover Nintendo's (or anyone else's, for that matter) presentation on...Tuesday, right?
Post by: IceCold on May 02, 2006, 06:04:30 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 06:48:36 PM
. It does serve as a nice diversion so E3 will come alittle quicker for some of us.
Post by: wandering on May 02, 2006, 07:38:02 PM
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Originally posted by: The Omen
I'm not embarrassed. I don't think anyone on either side of the argument will be embarrassed over it. I just think it sounds stupid. Is that opinion okay? Or should I wait three months? Besides, if you're so calm and cool with the name, then why get defensive like it's a personal attack on you?
While we're being psychoanalytical, let me point out that everytime someone says the name sounds stupid, what I think they're really saying is the name sounds different. In a few months, when we're all used to the name, I doubt it will sound that stupid to anyone.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Well if we are going to break down the wall that seperates gamers from non-gamers... Shouldn't we also break the image/reality that video gamers are elitest pricks? And what better way would there be, then making video gamers, even Nintendo video gamers, deal with and get over their insecurities by naming the next must gotta have system something that evokes these insecurities?"
I think that is far too clever to be a successful marketing campaign. Marketing needs to be dumbed down because only idiots respond well to it. Smart people are intelligent enough to form their own opinions regardless of what a commercial tells them to.
Well, that's one of the nice things about Wii: it's like cleverness for dumb people. Put "Together, Wii will change everything" on a bus, and people will eat it up. I'll eat it up. ('ooo, it's like We, except with two i's instead of an e! Because that's the name of the product! What is this mysterious and clever product, anyway? Whatever it is, I need 2!')
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 07:44:07 PM
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While we're being psychoanalytical, let me point out that everytime someone says the name sounds stupid, what I think they're really saying is the name sounds different. In a few months, when we're all used to the name, I doubt it will sound that stupid to anyone.
I also think Blanch is a stupid name. It is possible to be both stupid and different.
