Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: jasonditz on April 25, 2006, 08:20:25 AM
Title: No summer launch
Post by: jasonditz on April 25, 2006, 08:20:25 AM
NEC has reportedly told Bloomberg that the Rev's 1T-SRAM has been ordered and will be delivered in early autumn. Guess the chances of a summer launch are now next to nil.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 25, 2006, 08:32:57 AM
So what is early Autumn look like. Hmmm October release like I originally thought?
Title: RE:No summer launch
Post by: mantidor on April 25, 2006, 08:41:17 AM
I think that is almost sure the Rev lauch will mimic the DS one as far as dates go.
Title: RE:No summer launch
Post by: Kairon on April 25, 2006, 09:03:19 AM
This means no summer launch for Japan either. RARGH!
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Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 25, 2006, 09:04:55 AM
Autumn officially starts September 22 (according to my calander).
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: Ian Sane on April 25, 2006, 09:19:43 AM
"I think that is almost sure the Rev lauch will mimic the DS one as far as dates go."
I hope not. I don't want a North American launch first with virtually no games because all the GOOD developers are Japanese and thus aiming for the Japan launch.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: odilon on April 25, 2006, 09:36:20 AM
They have already announced that they are focusing on Japan, first.
Title: RE:No summer launch
Post by: Artimus on April 25, 2006, 10:07:14 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane "I think that is almost sure the Rev lauch will mimic the DS one as far as dates go."
I hope not. I don't want a North American launch first with virtually no games because all the GOOD developers are Japanese and thus aiming for the Japan launch.
He said as far as dates go.
Title: RE:No summer launch
Post by: Louieturkey on April 25, 2006, 11:05:36 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane "I think that is almost sure the Rev lauch will mimic the DS one as far as dates go."
I hope not. I don't want a North American launch first with virtually no games because all the GOOD developers are Japanese and thus aiming for the Japan launch.
Do you actually READ what people say, or do you just stop where you feel like it? It's funny that you actually quoted the entire sentence and yet completely ignored anything after "DS".
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: Ian Sane on April 25, 2006, 11:31:50 AM
How does "as far as dates go" make it any different? I interpret that as US launching first around Thanksgiving with Japan launching later on. The DS launch sucked because it launched in North America first and none of the good games were ready because the Japanese devs, including Nintendo themselves, were focusing on the later Japan launch. If the same schedule happened with the Rev why would it be any different? The whole Rev PERIOD has been designed by NCL with Japan primarily in mind.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 25, 2006, 11:39:23 AM
The DS launched in Japan less than two weeks later. That's not enough time to have made a difference in the development of any game.
Title: RE:No summer launch
Post by: vudu on April 25, 2006, 11:44:26 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane How does "as far as dates go" make it any different?
It means he thinks the Revolution will be released around Thanksgiving. Considering this thread is about when the Revolution will launch it's not exactly rocket science to figure that out. There were no talks of the number or the quality of launch titles, so I have no idea why you would make that leap.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: Ian Sane on April 25, 2006, 11:49:06 AM
"The DS launched in Japan less than two weeks later. That's not enough time to have made a difference in the development of any game."
It can affect translation though. All I know is that NCL launched the DS in Japan with a whole bunch of first party games and NOA launched it in North America with ONE and it was a port. Somewhere along the way one branch wasn't letting the other know what it was doing. I think it was incredibly obvious that the North American launch occured earlier than originally expected. NCL set a date for Japan, completely obliviously to the fact that in North America you launch BEFORE Christmas, and NOA had to bust out a premature launch. I don't want to see that here. I guess it would be okay if that was part of the plan all along because then everyone is on the same page.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: mantidor on April 25, 2006, 12:52:00 PM
Oh god I was only talking about the dates! and what the hell is wrong with Ian!? why he twists everything as a negative? O_o besides I dont understand what Ian is talking about, how launching two weeks later "forced" NOA to launch the system in november? the launch occured that date to take advantage of the thanksgiving shopping season, not because evil NCL didnt tell them the date of Japan's launch, thats just nonsense, even if they didnt tell them so what? thanksgiving is big enough, if you can use it you will use it, even if the launch ends up with only one game, the other japanese launch titles will get eventually anyway within the launch window.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 25, 2006, 12:56:41 PM
Quote It can affect translation though.
Two weeks (rounding up) would not have been enough time to localize a game, manufacture a few tens of thousands of copies, ship them overseas, and distribute them to retailers across the continent. For the Japanese launch titles to have launched with the DS in the U.S., it would have had to launch in spring.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: Ian Sane on April 25, 2006, 01:09:53 PM
"Two weeks (rounding up) would not have been enough time to localize a game, manufacture a few tens of thousands of copies, ship them overseas, and distribute them to retailers across the continent. For the Japanese launch titles to have launched with the DS in the U.S., it would have had to launch in spring."
That's my point. The North American launch got screwed because NCL set their Japanese date totally oblivious to how it did not work for North America. NOA then had to either launch with nothing in Thanksgiving or launch late with a decent lineup. The same thing could happen with the Rev if NCL is aiming for a late 2006 Japanese launch.
All of Nintendo's other systems launched in Japan first and ended up being pretty decent. The DS is the only Nintendo system to launch in North America first and it had the WORST launch for a Nintendo system by far. I don't see that as just a coincedence considering Nintendo is a Japanese company that cares about the Japanese market first and foremost and has a history of making blanket decisions that affect their global market based entirely on the Japanese market. So when any suggestion that the Rev might launch in North America first I get concerned.
Title: RE:No summer launch
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 25, 2006, 01:32:10 PM
Ian relax, games like Red Steel are definetly targeted at the western audience, and you can bet MP3 and possibly SSB:R will both be on the American launch list.
Title: RE:No summer launch
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 25, 2006, 01:36:23 PM
I don't disagree that the DS launch sucked. I disagree with the implication that it could have been saved by a difference of 12 days, as this sentence appeared to suggest:
Quote The DS launch sucked because it launched in North America first and none of the good games were ready because the Japanese devs, including Nintendo themselves, were focusing on the later Japan launch.
The NA DS launch would have sucked if it had happened 12 days after the Japanese launch, too. That's why I went off about how long it would have taken. I'm prepared to chalk this up to a communication breakdown.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: stevey on April 25, 2006, 01:40:48 PM
Early autumn is about September and nintendo said they're launch first in Japan already so North America launch will have 2 months to get thing ready for a good November launch line up.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 25, 2006, 03:10:26 PM
See I believe in a Japanese and US simultanous launch. I don't think it will launch in September. They still need to build and put the untils together.
That is why I believe October is the date.
Title: RE:No summer launch
Post by: IceCold on April 25, 2006, 05:41:18 PM
Canadian Thanksgiving (Oct 9)
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: Ceric on April 25, 2006, 05:51:51 PM
You know I just can't beleive that rumour to be true. Bloomberg said it but I'm thinking that it's not the whole story. If memory server isn't the Rev using the exact same type of 1T-Ram that was in the Cube? If thats the case Nintendo could already be starting to churn out machines if they already had the Ati and IBM chips with there remainding Cube stock. I would think this would be more a total declaration if the story would have went that Ati or IBM where shipping there chips to Nintendo for early autumn. Personally I think a June launch is probably possible if they have stock already on hand of the 1T-SRAM, if it is the same as the Cubes, and assuming that Ati and IBM chips magically appear when they need them. I really don't see the ram being the hang-up.
Title: RE: No summer launch
Post by: couchmonkey on April 26, 2006, 06:36:52 AM
The only way to un-suck the DS launch would have been to launch it like 3 months later, when WarioWare and Yoshi Touch n' Go were finally released. I think the Japanese launch lineup was barely better than the North American one...the only extra game worth mentioning was WarioWare.
Revolution will be a different story though. I think DS was really rushed out the door in an attempt to beat Sony to market. If I'm not mistaken the system was launched just about a year after Nintendo announced it. Revolution has been talked about for more than a year already. I'm sure Nintendo has been developing games for it since early 2005, at least, and third parties have been in on it since last E3 - that gives them more than a year and a half to get their products ready, which is pretty decent.
Oh, I think this blows my previous prediction about launch dates out of the water, but I knew I was being optimistic. I now think an October date in Japan and a November date in North America, shortly after. Nintendo has been waffling on Europe, I bet it will not get the system until next year, but I hope otherwise.
