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Title: OMG It's a (FAKE) Mario Rev!
Post by: Artimus on April 24, 2006, 08:51:22 AM: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/24/super-mario-revolution-sighting-maybe/

Some of the worst fakes ever? Indeed.
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Post by: Arbok on April 24, 2006, 08:58:58 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Artimus
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/24/super-mario-revolution-sighting-maybe/

Some of the worst fakes ever? Indeed.

Too true, although it's so sad how many people posting in that thread there on joystiq believe them to be legit...
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Post by: Caliban on April 24, 2006, 09:17:42 AM: It stinks of fake. Why even bother I say.
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Post by: Ian Sane on April 24, 2006, 09:20:30 AM: You can tell it's fake because the backgrounds have no resemblance whatsoever to the typical Mario style. Those environments look like something out of Zelda. Mario stuff is all colourful and has this weird abstract look to it.

The people who make up fake stuff are usually so obvious because they rarely get what a franchise is all about so they make up stuff that doesn't fit and thus could never be real.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2006, 09:41:21 AM: I hope the next Mario does look like that cause then Nintendo would finally be giving me the Mario that they promised back for the N64 aka Project Reality.

I had Newspaper clipping about the N64 from back in '94-'95 that had a picture of Mario running through a realistic city. It had me soooo juiced for the N64 that I couldn't wait to play it, so I hung the paper clipping up where I could see it. If I can find it, I post it up here. But I would be very happy if Nintendo finally delivered the title I expected to see back then, even if it took them 10 yrs to deliver it.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on April 24, 2006, 10:04:49 AM: Wow.
What a high concentration of idiocy.
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Post by: Ceric on April 24, 2006, 11:29:56 AM: Mario.... Real... World...

Oh, you must mean the Movie or TV show right?
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Post by: ThePerm on April 24, 2006, 11:48:57 AM: heres a better, although still crappy fake
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Post by: Strell on April 24, 2006, 11:58:27 AM: No guns and blood?

Lame.
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Post by: Kraven on April 24, 2006, 12:27:29 PM: They look like they could be real. Except for that last one it looks bad and very photoshopped. I dont get how you can tell the top ones are fake, I woulda believed they were real if i saw em before coming here... The last one looks like its outta SSBM
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Post by: ThePerm on April 24, 2006, 12:33:30 PM: they dont look like the could be real at all. They look just as bad as the last picture
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Post by: Hostile Creation on April 24, 2006, 01:17:56 PM: Why does it look like he's encased in blue jello?
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Post by: ThePerm on April 24, 2006, 01:28:48 PM: its an effect to encase all the objects in a similar light tone, thus eliminating some color differentiation...tbhe problem is the way mario is cut out, and that the face is too higlighted...i didnt want to spend to much time on the picture though
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Post by: Dasmos on April 24, 2006, 04:45:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
You can tell it's fake because the backgrounds have no resemblance whatsoever to the typical Mario style. Those environments look like something out of Zelda. Mario stuff is all colourful and has this weird abstract look to it.

The people who make up fake stuff are usually so obvious because they rarely get what a franchise is all about so they make up stuff that doesn't fit and thus could never be real.
Ian, what are you talking about? The first image has a mushroom on the door and the second has a warp pipe and Yoshi. All of these traits are very typically Mario. These could easily be a Mario title. Easily.
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Post by: Ceric on April 24, 2006, 05:19:34 PM: I have to agree that those pictures don't have a Mario look and feel. They have a more Garden Gnome look and feel. If that does end up being the next Mario there better be very solid gameplay and a story that puts the other to shame. That's about like the cel-shade change with Zelda but I liked the Cel-shade.

Mario 128: If I Were a Garden Gnome
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Post by: Michael8983 on April 24, 2006, 05:19:57 PM: The roofs in the second pic even look like turtle shells.
They aren't the most traditional of Mario environments but we have seen them before.
The first pic looks like a town in Super Mario RPG and the second resembles the night themed levels in Yoshi's Island.
I could actually believe these are real but there are just too many obvious signs they are fake. The environments not being one of them.
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Post by: Svevan on April 24, 2006, 05:26:53 PM: I think these attempts are wrong-headed. Do we really think Nintendo's just going to make Mario more realistic, with more polygons, a la SSBM and Sunshine? Doubt it. Cel Shading worked wonders for Zelda, but Mario is much more deserving. Ian is right, his existence is abstract and I care nothing for running around a town, talking with people, and doing their errands RPG-style. Now, a town used as a level, that's neat. But after all, this is Jump-Man. Make me jump in a way I never have before. Make it fun to jump high and do incredible things. Mario 64 had the spirit, but Sunshine more or less followed Banjo-Kazooie in its world design, in that you can't fall off of the levels. Banjo-Kazooie is a great bridge between the Mario and Zelda styles (so is Mystical Ninja 64, though it is planted on the Zelda end of the spectrum), and I would argue it is more fun than Super Mario 64, but it isn't where Mario should be. No more item hunting! I think Mario should be something more like (but not exactly like) Rez in its visual approach, and the bonus levels in Sunshine in its gameplay - abstract, jump-oriented, and linear. There's worlds and worlds of things to do within that framework. I don't need a cohesive world like Delfino Isle to keep me interested (though that waterfall was beautiful). Nor do I need a story of any complexity. I just want to jump.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 24, 2006, 07:23:11 PM: Those are fake. I think at least one of those pictures uses a render from Mario RPG for SNES. If those were real, then I would lose all hope in the Revolution. Horrible photoshop job. It's probably Paint Shop Pro even.
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Post by: Artimus on April 24, 2006, 07:24:45 PM: Are you guys kidding? Those enviroments are not Mario style. They're realistic, and Mario will never be realistic.
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Post by: Michael8983 on April 24, 2006, 08:55:24 PM: Again, I think they're fake but consider this . . .

What if screens from Super Mario Sunshine had been leaked out before its unveiling at Spaceworld a few years back?
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Post by: jasonditz on April 24, 2006, 09:35:57 PM: It's possible they could make some Mario Gaiden type game where he's in a more realistic setting for a game.
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Post by: Kairon on April 24, 2006, 10:24:53 PM: I am a screen. I am permanent, yet always changing image. All visions pass through me.
I do not anticipate. I do not project. I merely view in full detail, that which passes through me.
Fake or real does not matter. Hope and disappointment does not matter. Only the imprint left on my surface after the image passes through me matters.
Then, having accepted that image in its entirety, I await the next.
Such is the way of this fanboy.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Ceric on April 25, 2006, 04:19:19 AM: You know we are all bias by now.

But I do feel that it still fits fro the most part. The bright color scheme. The roundish characters. Some notable characters. I have a much easier time with those compared to these. Now on the flipside if they would have gone the Smash Brother route and gave Mario clothes textures and the like then I might be a little bit more into claiming fake. Pretty much the closer Mario was to SSBM Mario the more likely I would have been to call fake. Especially if the world itself sacrificed its brightness for realism.
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Post by: couchmonkey on April 26, 2006, 07:20:55 AM: I agree with Ian on the environments - they look like generic renders with Mario elements pasted on. But it's not the most obvious problem. I think the most obvious problem is that the Mario model is totally different in each picture (first one looks like modified Super Mario Sunshine shot, second one looks like crap) and Yoshi is clearly drawn-in in the background of the second one.

For the first shot to work, I'd suggest red roofs everywhere, some type of star or other Mario symbol on the flower pot, and less texture detail.

For the second shot to work, it needs a better Mario model, and the pipe and Yoshi need to be better...I think they're hand-drawn, I'd look for screenshots, but even then the lighting needs to be heavily modified. Lighting would be a huge problem in general. Even once that's done, the smoke looks fake, the sky needs some larger, cartoonier stars, and the rooftops need to have shingles instead of that weird rocky texture. Again, preferably red shingles.