Post by: wandering on April 13, 2006, 10:08:36 PM
For the second time, someone's fallen ill while riding mission space, and then died later in the hospital. (Although according to the article, the first death was later thought to be related to a rare heart condition.)
This is in addition to the man who died when Thunder Mountain in Disneyland crashed, and the man who died when a piece of a boat came flying off and hit him.
It's...hard to put this into perspective. On the one hand, there's the argument that, statistically, Disney is pretty safe. On the other hand, until recently, deaths at Disney were NEVER, ever the result of negligence on the part of the company...and now we have, what, four deaths and more injuries in 7 years? Imagine if Nintendo killed an average of one person every two years.
edit: and the ride's been reopened. After determining it's operating normally. I don't suppose the thought's occured that the ride's normal operation, you know, kills people, and should maybe be stopped?
Post by: Nephilim on April 14, 2006, 01:21:29 AM
inlike 30years ago, were everything was welded to hell so a ride could hold 100tons
Post by: Pale on April 14, 2006, 04:59:06 AM
I'm leaving for disney in a week.
Post by: King of Twitch on April 14, 2006, 11:25:34 AM
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Post by: Shecky on April 14, 2006, 09:31:56 PM
Didn't feel any repercussions the first time, second was after lunch, eh not bad. Third time though and I started feeling it
Enough that I went on Test Track instead.I'm convinced the people who get really sick on this ride aren't following the safety instructions... one of them being not to move your head around during the ride.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 14, 2006, 10:05:08 PM
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Post by: Renny on April 15, 2006, 08:37:54 AM
"Sorry to be a spoiler but I have HBP [high blood pressure] and am on meds, and I LOVED mission space but was soooo sick I thought I wouldn't make it to the end of the attraction," one message stated. "I would not have ridden it if I had known how bad I would feel but it is a pretty incredible experience."
Despite my loathing of Disney, I have to give them credit for weeding out a few morons here and there.
Post by: wandering on April 15, 2006, 09:45:48 PM
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Man, I'm gonna be SUPER PISSED if this causes the ride to close down...
I'm leaving for disney in a week.
Not only will it not be closed, there won't be any line, so you can ride it again and again. (Don't, though. You'll get sick.)
My advice? Don't eat anything for a while before riding (we rode in the morning...and while none of us had to use the provided barf bags, the person who ate a large breakfast had stomach pangs... and I, who had nothing but water, had no ill effects.) Also, pay close attention to the soothing, soothing voice of Gary Sinese whenever he talks. (Not that you'll have any trouble doing that!)
It's a great ride when it doesn't kill you. A bit like riding an airplane for the first time. Good luck!
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Despite my loathing of Disney, I have to give them credit for weeding out a few morons here and there.
When it comes to people standing up on Splash Mountain, fine. But when it comes to a little kid with an undiagnosed heart condition, or a german woman who couldn't read english, no.
BTW, Renny, one of the people I rode with had high blood pressure. Maybe riding it wasn't the smartest thing to do, but after riding dozens of Disney's tame thrill rides with similiar warnings...I don't really blame people for not taking the warnings very seriously.
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I like how there are like a BILLION warning labels all over Mission Space...
Yeah, along with every other Disney ride. Seriously, Star Tours has similiar warnings, and it's about as intense as driving off-road. Mission Space, on the other hand, is as intense as astronaut training...minus all of the health tests.
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When I read the title somehow I thought they were going to announce Snow White 2 and thus finally killing all their classics with stupid sequels.
Well, in addition to killing two people, mission space also killed the excellent Horizons.
Post by: Pale on April 16, 2006, 04:29:57 PM
Post by: StrikerObi on April 16, 2006, 04:53:22 PM
Anyway, lines are ALREADY super short due to the first kid who died. Even when the park is super packed Mission Space is empty (<20 minutes, usually <10)
Post by: wandering on April 16, 2006, 07:04:06 PM
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Horizons... refresh my memory? Which one is that? I know i've probably ridden it several times but I'm not remembering. Is that the one with the car that sat four across and you faced out the side? And in the end you had to vote which scene you wanted? Like water/space/land/etc.?
Yep. Plus, singing robots. Stuff about it here.
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Mission Space is totally fine. I have ridden it TONS of times (I'm fairly close to Orlando).
I've heard this before....except replace mission space with all manner of other wonderfully nasty things.
Though, actually I'm still kind of mixed on the issue. Deaths aside, it's not like Mission space does anything that the graviton at your local carnival doesn't. Humm.
Post by: Pale on April 17, 2006, 06:01:46 AM
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Post by: Ian Sane on April 18, 2006, 07:15:06 AM
Space Mountain was getting repaired during my visit. Thank God they have that new California Adventure park too or else I would have felt pretty ripped off.
Edit: further research indicates to me that the train did in fact derail so looks like it was Disney's fault. Still I'm not going to declare Disneyland a death trap as overall its had a fantastic safety rating.
Post by: Zach on April 18, 2006, 12:04:30 PM
Post by: wandering on April 19, 2006, 01:11:14 AM
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Edit: further research indicates to me that the train did in fact derail so looks like it was Disney's fault. Still I'm not going to declare Disneyland a death trap as overall its had a fantastic safety rating.
Right. The man, who got crushed by the decorative engine, did nothing wrong. The derailment was a result of poor maintenance.
Disney's safety rating is good, but 2 deaths due to negligence on Disney's part within a 5 year time span gives one pause...especially when, before the Columbia and Thunder Mountain accidents, Disney could not be faulted for a single guest death for all of the 40+ years Disneyland was in operation.
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If you are in good health, then you should not worry about these rides. Unless it turns out you have a rare heart condition like that unfortunate kid a few years back, then your screwed. But for the most part, if you dont have high blood pressure, or heart conditions, then it is safe. I would bet that it is probably more dangerous to drive a car.
That's true. But one can't help but feel that, if Walt were alive today, he'd close Mission Space down.
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If the lines are really that short, isn't disney worried about putting something new there?]
Maybe eventually, but not overnight. Disney generally announces permanent ride closings well in advance.
Though, come to think of it, they might close unexpectedly for refurbishment. When no one was riding the crap they replaced Journey to Imagination with, they closed the ride for a while to add a CGI Figment.
