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Title: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on April 12, 2006, 09:20:23 AM
Get ready for Nibris' black-and-white exclusive for the Revolution.

First black & white game!    


Exclusive Nintendo Revolution title Sadness will be fully.. black and white!    


Cracow, 11.04.2006    


Nibris decided to follow Nintendo's path, which definately fights the  stagnation which has occured in video games, and creates new trends "With thise move, we want to create a unique environment, which is only  available in Sadness," Says Lukasz "CassSept" Oskard, a Nibris employee. "But Nibris are not following the trend created though Sin City, but  rather a game which is set pre-World War." More information on Sadness will be available soon.

Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 12, 2006, 09:26:47 AM
In before Ian rants about how there's automatically no substance to this game because of the visual style...
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on April 12, 2006, 09:28:24 AM
Aw, come on, Bill. You know Ian's gonna be happy; this is another game announced for the Revolution.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Artimus on April 12, 2006, 09:34:52 AM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
Aw, come on, Bill. You know Ian's gonna be happy; this is another game announced for the Revolution.


He already did the rant Bill was talking about in another thread.
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 12, 2006, 09:36:09 AM
A few days ago I was looking at some old photographs and thinking how cool a black and white game could be, if done right.  Without realizing it I was thinking about a game very similar to what we know about Sadness right now.  Needless to say I'm excited
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Ian Sane on April 12, 2006, 09:38:26 AM
Can I be happy that the Rev has another game annouced while at the same time suspecting that the developer's emphasis on the style suggets weak gameplay?

It is cool that info on Rev games is starting to come out on regular basis.  But I'm not going to rush to pre-order a game just because it's in black and white and has a unique style when I don't really have any info on how the game plays.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on April 12, 2006, 09:39:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
Aw, come on, Bill. You know Ian's gonna be happy; this is another game announced for the Revolution.


He already did the rant Bill was talking about in another thread.


Hah, shows how much I know.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 12, 2006, 09:44:08 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
It is cool that info on Rev games is starting to come out on regular basis.  But I'm not going to rush to pre-order a game just because it's in black and white and has a unique style when I don't really have any info on how the game plays.

Uhhh, does ANYONE preorder a game that's just been announced?  The game won't be out for another year at LEAST...
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: MysticGohan on April 12, 2006, 09:44:12 AM
lol, we all knew that was coming ha!
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: vudu on April 12, 2006, 10:05:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Uhhh, does ANYONE preorder a game that's just been announced?  The game won't be out for another year at LEAST...
year at LEAST?  I was thinking six to eight months....
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Ian Sane on April 12, 2006, 10:10:51 AM
"Uhhh, does ANYONE preorder a game that's just been announced? The game won't be out for another year at LEAST..."

I was exagerating.  Some people hear about a game and immediately are all "I'm totally going to buy that".  Now they still may never buy it but the initial "ohmygodthisissoawesomebestgameever!" reaction is there.  Especially for the first few titles shown for a new console.
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 12, 2006, 10:12:53 AM
year at LEAST? I was thinking six to eight months....

This is an up-and-coming dev, PLUS they are putting out another game first (if they can get it published)...I think "a year, at least" is pretty generous...
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: vudu on April 12, 2006, 10:30:27 AM
Ooohhh...I thought you meant Revolution launch wouldn't be for another year at LEAST.  My bad.
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 12, 2006, 10:37:17 AM
Wow.  I can decide what is funnier.  Everyone able to slam Ian about rants and opinions before they happen...or the fact that Ian then actually does said rants after the fact.

It is like he is our very own Planetgamecube Forum stereotype.  

"That just Ian."

"Oh, Don't be an Ian."

"You just Ian posted."

I can see those sayings now.

Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 12, 2006, 10:45:09 AM
"Can I be happy that the Rev has another game annouced while at the same time suspecting that the developer's emphasis on the style suggets weak gameplay?"

I'd say that's an unfair statement.  I'd be more concerned that it's a new developer than anything else, but who knows what they're capable of?  Some of the best games of this generation were oozing with style, and a unique presentation is almost always indicative of an interesting (often great) game.  People who are dedicated to making great games generally put the effort into making them look and feel equally good.  Look at virtually any Nintendo title, the games are both fun and aesthetically appealing.
Some games have style but lack gameplay, like Eternal Darkness.  Some might argue Killer 7.  But I loved both of those games (especially Killer 7) anyway, even if the gameplay wasn't spectacular.  The style and story was interesting enough to get me through the game, and left me with a feeling of satisfaction afterward.
Sadness has great potential, and it's fair to get excited about it.  No reason to crush our dreams just yet, Ian.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Kairon on April 12, 2006, 10:59:20 AM
I think you're all jumping WAAAAY too far ahead in the game.

I mean, excuse me but... do these guys even have a DEV KIT?

I mean, sure they have a GC one but do they have a Rev Dev kit at all? I was under the impression that they didn't, and that's why I'm flabbergasted by this announcement. I'm like... "WHUZZAH?"

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: bustin98 on April 12, 2006, 11:36:00 AM
The website says this game is slated for a 2007 release. I bet we won't even see it at E3. If its there, not playable. I give it a year or more for release.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Nephilim on April 12, 2006, 11:45:33 AM
raid over river and sadness
2 games coming to rev from one small dev, very nice
but only a few days ago they said they didnt have a rev dev kit, so they both must be very early and could be out way late into 2007
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 12, 2006, 11:54:07 AM
I thought Raid over the River was now a DS game.  Is it being created for both?  I would rather it for one or the other...I hate when developers try to shrink an idea into a portable...or try to build an idea perfect for portable up into a console game.  Both seem to always have poor results.

Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Nephilim on April 12, 2006, 12:02:44 PM
Ign have still have it as rev, dated march 8th
didnt know it was changed to ds?
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 12, 2006, 12:09:33 PM
From Gonintendo.com

New Raid Over the River info
Tuesday, April 11th, 2006

Raid Over the River (working title)
Category – Shooter
Platform – DS
Release Date – 2006
A game is arriving which will not only change the way you look at action
games, but games in general.
In few productions which differ from one another, based on similar types of plot, our project is distinguished above all by the innovative scenario. From […]


I guess it was easier for them to get a DS dev. kit and begin working on it.

Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 12, 2006, 12:45:50 PM
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Some games have style but lack gameplay, like Eternal Darkness.  Some might argue Killer 7.  But I loved both of those games (especially Killer 7) anyway, even if the gameplay wasn't spectacular.  



Hey now, I thought ED had tremendous gameplay and style , it was very engaging, keeping me within its grasp from beginning to end. That is saying alot considering I beat few games now days, it takes a good game (both style and gameplay) to keep me hooked.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Knoxxville on April 12, 2006, 12:57:23 PM
Boy, you guys are BANANAS !

LOL!
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 12, 2006, 01:09:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
From Gonintendo.com

New Raid Over the River info
Tuesday, April 11th, 2006

Raid Over the River (working title)
Category – Shooter
Platform – DS
Release Date – 2006
A game is arriving which will not only change the way you look at action
games, but games in general.
In few productions which differ from one another, based on similar types of plot, our project is distinguished above all by the innovative scenario. From […]


I guess it was easier for them to get a DS dev. kit and begin working on it.

They have both a DS and Rev version in the works...
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: ThePerm on April 12, 2006, 01:23:39 PM
http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=11773
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 12, 2006, 04:41:39 PM
Wow, a next generation game that is black and white. They sould call it [Oh, hey man. My name is Standard Rules. You're kind going against my ruling here on using offensive slurs. First warning, m'kay? Thanks.].  I think the decision to do it as such is that they are new and lack the experience to make a visually striking game. Which is ok, but dont cover it up by saying its the "style" they chose or that it is "stylish".

Man twice the power of the system that created RE4 and we get a black and white game. Am i the only one disappointed by the news.
Ill reserve judgement till i see it, but right now the news blows....  
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 12, 2006, 05:00:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Nosferat2
Wow, a next generation game that is black and white. They sould call it Gayness.  I think the decision to do it as such is that they are new and lack the experience to make a visually striking game. Which is ok, but dont cover it up by saying its the "style" they chose or that it is "stylish".

Man twice the power of the system that created RE4 and we get a black and white game. Am i the only one disappointed by the news.
Ill reserve judgement till i see it, but right now the news blows....



I think thats very narrow minded of you to say that, the game is supposed to take place pre- world war 1 and they said that they are focusing on atmosphere and mood rather than going rambo and mowing down everything in sight.  Also the smallest dev houses sometimes has the best ideas and this one sounds very interesting. I personally think that graphics are losing their luster since graphics do not really make or break the game, its the game mechanics and gameplay that decide that factor. Sure graphics can make some games stylish like cellshading did make some games really stylish and maybe this monochromatic style can make this game really fresh and stylish.

Also on IGN it was said that one of their inspirations to Sadness is Sin City so I wonder how this pans out.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Tansunn on April 12, 2006, 06:42:41 PM
Well, I admit it's an unusual decision, but I'm interested to see what they do with it.  It's definitely grabbed my attention, at least.

Also...
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Uhhh, does ANYONE preorder a game that's just been announced?

Zelda, anyone?

...unless you mean new franchises, in which case I'd probably agree.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: AManatee2 on April 12, 2006, 08:04:11 PM
i'll play it.

i'm already in love with the revolution. it's so endearing.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Artimus on April 12, 2006, 08:18:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Nosferat2
Wow, a next generation game that is black and white. They sould call it [Oh, hey man. My name is Standard Rules. You're kind going against my ruling here on using offensive slurs. First warning, m'kay? Thanks.].  I think the decision to do it as such is that they are new and lack the experience to make a visually striking game. Which is ok, but dont cover it up by saying its the "style" they chose or that it is "stylish".


Hehehehehehehe. Hehehehehehe. Hehehehe.

Hehehehe.

Hehehe.

Hehe.

He.

Heheheheheheheehe.

Hehe.

Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: TrueNerd on April 12, 2006, 08:25:39 PM
I can hear it now....

"The Revoltion is so week it can't even output culor graphix! LOL AMIRITE?!"

But really, do we know anything about this game other then the fact it will be black and white? I hope they steal from Sin City/ Wind Waker and have either the main character in color (Like Link when he first visited the underwater castle of Hyrule) or certain objects in color. All black and white... can be cool when done right in films, but seems like it could get boring in video games.  
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: MysticGohan on April 12, 2006, 08:43:29 PM
As I recall, the begaining of BoF II ( Breath of Fire II ) was in B&W for abit. It was a great game
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Kairon on April 12, 2006, 08:45:19 PM
For some odd, irrational, illogical, inexplicable reason...

This game makes me hope against hope for a Jane Austen videogame adaptation...

Sense & Sensibility the game? Take me now!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: KDR_11k on April 12, 2006, 09:10:04 PM
I hear you can reach the project leader at depressio@homestarrunner.com .
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: wandering on April 12, 2006, 11:52:25 PM
NiBRiS is, I have to say, doing an excellent job of hyping themselves. It should make it much easier for them to get a publisher/dev kits/funding, now that everyone who is following revolution wants their games.

Oh, the people here who are dismissing this game because it's black and white are filling me with.....well, I can't think of the word, but, some negative emotion.

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I hear you can reach the project leader at depressio@homestarrunner.com

I tried emailing him about the project, but all he would talk about was some animal that died.
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Kairon on April 13, 2006, 12:09:25 AM
How sad...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: MysticGohan on April 13, 2006, 08:47:43 AM
Thus Sadness was born! or related to the cause that lead to sadness and insanity, and insomiacs everywhere!
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: The Omen on April 13, 2006, 11:24:37 AM
People complaining about a projected exclusive Rev game?  Wow, our standards have certainly risen quite a bit here at pgc.  And complaining about a B & W game is like complaining about B & W films(which I assume most of you do).  Color, b & w matters not as long as the game/film is good.  Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to watch Eraserhead...in B & W!  (oh no!)
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Kairon on April 13, 2006, 11:50:37 AM
The Academy award nominated film "Good Night, and Good Luck" - for which George "Time's 1997 Handsomest Man Alive" Clooney won a supporting actor award - was in black and white. That movie was also a period piece, and it STILL earned a nomination for Best Picture.

If you've got an issue with Black and White, then you'll have to take it with Mr. Oscar.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Artimus on April 13, 2006, 12:18:28 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
The Academy award nominated film "Good Night, and Good Luck" - for which George "Time's 1997 Handsomest Man Alive" Clooney won a supporting actor award - was in black and white. That movie was also a period piece, and it STILL earned a nomination for Best Picture.

If you've got an issue with Black and White, then you'll have to take it with Mr. Oscar.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


Well, first of all Clooney won for Syriana (he wasn't nominated for his performance in GNAGL, just writing and directing).

Second, there is no need to argue whether or not black and white movies are good or bad. There is simply no basis for saying they're bad, so it's not worth humouring someone who feels that. Best to ignore stupidity.

As for a black and white video game...it's never been done. But I think if some movies play best in B&W (and some definitely do, see the Coen brother's Man Who Wasn't There, Schindler's List, aforementioned Sin City), then perhaps a game can too. With good gameplay it'll be a good game, and hey, the B&W may add something!
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Kairon on April 13, 2006, 02:26:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
The Academy award nominated film "Good Night, and Good Luck" - for which George "Time's 1997 Handsomest Man Alive" Clooney won a supporting actor award - was in black and white. That movie was also a period piece, and it STILL earned a nomination for Best Picture.

If you've got an issue with Black and White, then you'll have to take it with Mr. Oscar.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


Well, first of all Clooney won for Syriana (he wasn't nominated for his performance in GNAGL, just writing and directing).

Second, there is no need to argue whether or not black and white movies are good or bad. There is simply no basis for saying they're bad, so it's not worth humouring someone who feels that. Best to ignore stupidity.

As for a black and white video game...it's never been done. But I think if some movies play best in B&W (and some definitely do, see the Coen brother's Man Who Wasn't There, Schindler's List, aforementioned Sin City), then perhaps a game can too. With good gameplay it'll be a good game, and hey, the B&W may add something!


ARRRRGH! I have been PWNT! BBQED! I need to LERN2PLAY!

/cry

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Professor Gnarly on April 14, 2006, 07:35:06 AM
I hope its a survival horror game.  That's a genre that could benefit from B & W.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: ThePerm on April 14, 2006, 09:00:09 AM
there are some things you can do in black and white that are haeder to do in color. It would probably e easier to reach a higher evel of realism.
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: NotSoStu on April 18, 2006, 04:59:42 AM
Hey, guys, sorry to rain on your happy day, but what are the chances Nibris even has a dev kit? Yeah. That's correct. Nada.
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 18, 2006, 05:42:01 AM
They have a Gamecube devkit they've been working with (since it's supposedly very similar to the Rev one).  With all the attention they're garnering, I wouldn't really be surprised if they managed to pick up a publisher and a Revdevkit.
Title: RE:Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: IceCold on April 18, 2006, 03:47:44 PM
Ha, that's good.. Revkit. Kind of like prE3..
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Requiem on April 18, 2006, 04:02:15 PM
So what is this game about?

Last I heard about it was that your some crazy lunatic that's pretty depressed/pissed off and that you can't go to sleep.



If it is a survival horror game, black and white would be perfect. Although, I would like a few hints of blue and green every now and then (like walking through a moonlit field).
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 18, 2006, 08:16:26 PM
Screen warping effects and optical illusions would be nice.
Title: RE: Sadness Officially Announced
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 18, 2006, 11:27:38 PM
I thought they said narcolepsy, not insomnia.  Narcolepsy is randomly falling asleep.
Which, to me, sounds much more interesting.