Post by: Mario on April 08, 2006, 10:32:59 PM
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-Microsoft is currently trying their hardest to secure the next version of GTA as an Xbox 360 exclusive. They claim MS is going full out in this. Even if MS does not secure it as a full exclusive, they will try to get it as a timed exclusive (similar to Sony last gen)
This would be a pretty big blow to Sony I think, and shows signs of a massive battle between Sony and MS about to take place. I think Xbox 360 is a joke at the moment, but if MS pull this off they are going to get lots of momentum and Sony will have something to worry about.
Of course, this is just a rumor, and may not turn out to be true, but the silence regarding next gen GTA is a bit odd I think.
Post by: Kairon on April 08, 2006, 10:41:52 PM
If only there was virtual popcorn on the virtual console, I'd be set.
~Carmine M. Red
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P.S. I really AM excited about this showdown. Sony and MS are gonna duke it out bigtime and I'll be able to enjoy it impartially. My money is for MS to win because they're fresh and hungry, I think that in the end MS will be smarter than Sony, and want it more, as this aggressive move on the GTA series shows.
Post by: Artimus on April 08, 2006, 10:44:35 PM
Post by: Hocotate on April 09, 2006, 02:53:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
The biggest danger for Sony would be for Nintendo to make a huge indent in Japan (VERY possible) and Microsoft to do the same in North America (GTA would be huge). Then they'd be fighting a major battle on two fronts against two opponents whose success drives Sony down, and thus elevates both of them in both territories.
I agree 100% If MS can win North America, and if Nintendo can win Japan, where does that leave Sony?. But the Playstation name is still big so I'm sure the PS3 will be successful at least the first few years of it's life.
Post by: Mario on April 09, 2006, 03:28:28 AM
Post by: vudu on April 09, 2006, 06:21:26 AM
GTA3 sold a lot of PS2's because it wasn't known at that point that the game would be available on PC and Xbox at a later date. VC and SA sold a lot of copies on PS2 because people who wanted it already had the system, but anyone who had a PC or Xbox had little reason to buy a PS2 just for those games.
Post by: capamerica on April 09, 2006, 07:30:51 AM
Post by: jasonditz on April 09, 2006, 07:36:58 AM
Not that that's liable to stop Microsoft.
Post by: Artimus on April 09, 2006, 07:43:02 AM
Post by: jasonditz on April 09, 2006, 07:50:24 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on April 09, 2006, 08:01:35 AM
Post by: Renny on April 09, 2006, 08:05:22 AM
Post by: jasonditz on April 09, 2006, 08:15:41 AM
Either way, they're running the risk that controlling gunplay with an analog joystick and a button is going to begin to feel a lot like interacting with 3D worlds with a D-pad when the Rev comes out. God help them if Mario shoots a hooker.
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 09, 2006, 08:43:49 AM
Post by: Kairon on April 09, 2006, 08:57:29 AM
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Originally posted by: jasonditzEither way, they're running the risk that controlling gunplay with an analog joystick and a button is going to begin to feel a lot like interacting with 3D worlds with a D-pad when the Rev comes out. God help them if Mario shoots a hooker.
Sounds like the perfect opportunity for another third party to step in and steal the genre from Rockstar from releasing a Rev game that competes with GTA.
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: jasonditz on April 09, 2006, 09:02:47 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Isn't any game that comes out for X360 right now a timed exclusive?
Except for the 90% of them which are ports of titles from the previous generation.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 09, 2006, 10:04:52 AM
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We'll see what allure GTA still has when LCS gets its PS2 release.
QFT.
I think that it was likely a fad and that it's passed by now. How many times can you run over the same hooker, jack the same car, etc. etc.?
I wouldn't be surprised if it has indeed run its course.
Post by: Kairon on April 09, 2006, 10:10:26 AM
GTA's allure will be tested NOT when a port comes out, but when GTA: London comes out.
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 09, 2006, 10:24:34 AM
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Originally posted by: jasonditzEither way, they're running the risk that controlling gunplay with an analog joystick and a button is going to begin to feel a lot like interacting with 3D worlds with a D-pad when the Rev comes out. God help them if Mario shoots a hooker.
Sounds like the perfect opportunity for another third party to step in and steal the genre from Rockstar from releasing a Rev game that competes with GTA.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Red Steel seems to fit the same niche.
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No, you're in wrong.
GTA's allure will be tested NOT when a port comes out, but when GTA: London comes out.
Last I checked GTA: London was released in 1999.
Post by: Kairon on April 09, 2006, 10:29:14 AM
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 09, 2006, 10:31:02 AM
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Originally posted by: jasonditzEither way, they're running the risk that controlling gunplay with an analog joystick and a button is going to begin to feel a lot like interacting with 3D worlds with a D-pad when the Rev comes out. God help them if Mario shoots a hooker.
Sounds like the perfect opportunity for another third party to step in and steal the genre from Rockstar from releasing a Rev game that competes with GTA.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: TrueNerd on April 09, 2006, 11:08:53 PM
Post by: Rhoq on April 10, 2006, 05:52:22 AM
Maybe it's because I'm 30 years old, but I found this game to not only be way over-hyped, but it's gets pretty boring, fairly quickly. I know that kids (I can't believe I'm at the age where I can no longer identify with today's youth) love this game. I know they find it highly amusing to hear their game characters curse. The truth is after about 5 minutes of playing the game, all of this gets very old. The graphics are very underwhelming, and the controls could use a lot of tightening-up. I was very disappointed with my first "Grand Theft Auto" experience. The funny thing is - I loved the first "True Crime" game (maybe because the game actually had a coherent story?).
Post by: Caliban on April 10, 2006, 06:06:34 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on April 10, 2006, 07:15:47 AM
Rhoq: Freeform games aren't for everyone.
Post by: Rhoq on April 10, 2006, 07:25:54 AM
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Rhoq: Freeform games aren't for everyone.
I hear what you're saying, but I enjoy being able to explore.
Post by: Kairon on April 10, 2006, 08:28:38 AM
...imagine what Miyamoto could do with GTA... *drool*...
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 10, 2006, 08:48:09 AM
And Rockstar really needs to branch out, because when GTA dies out, they really have nothing to fall back on. And GTA is going to die out one day.
Post by: Artimus on April 10, 2006, 09:12:21 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
And Rockstar really needs to branch out, because when GTA dies out, they really have nothing to fall back on. And GTA is going to die out one day.
Ummmm...TABLE TENNIS!?
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 10, 2006, 10:09:31 AM
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...imagine what Miyamoto could do with GTA... *drool*...
Kill it and make a better game franchise...
Post by: jasonditz on April 10, 2006, 10:44:04 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
GTA failed with GTA: LCS, the fact that a GTA game pretty much failed to sell a system and itself does not bode to well for the franchise. It failed so much they are basically porting it to the PS2 to make up for what they lost when it bombed on the PSP.
It was still a million seller, which on that zero of a platform is more than respectable. It just didn't sell systems the way GTA3 sold PS2's.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 10, 2006, 02:18:18 PM
We've done Western crime to death. It's time to see what crime looks like through the ranks of the Yakuza and when swords come into the picture.
From the sounds of it, you can choose missions in whatever order you please which means that we might be able to expect a consistent world like GTA has, except from a FPS viewpoint and with far more depth and a system for real combat.
Post by: Djunknown on April 10, 2006, 07:36:45 PM
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Eventually someone was going to mention it: top franchises of one generation can become insignificant the next.
See the Resident Evil 'exclusivity'-deal and Metal Gear Re-make...
Aside from making the 'sandbox' bigger, what else can they do? What about turning it into a MMO game? Instead of guilds, there can rival families. Players can choose to be either the Cops(clean or corrupt) and try and keep the peace, or just be your standard hooligan and jack cars and the like. Or be neutral by starting a business that both law-breakers and abiders come to...
There'd be perks and disadvantages of choosing your lifestyle. I'll let your imagination or your skeptisicsm/cynicism... run wild from here.
Aside from a handful of must-buy exclusives, the 360's getting a rap for bumped-up ports of current gen-games. Those ports look really nice, but aren't worth the 20 percent mark-up. Maybe if they did something like add exclusive content right out of the box like exclusive levels, weapons, cheats, interviews/making of's etc, it'd be worth it.
Post by: jasonditz on April 11, 2006, 07:39:37 AM
I wish they'd just let GTA as a franchise rest for awhile and use the basic design of the GTA games for other interesting situations. What if they made a game like GTA: San Andreas only encompassing the entire Gaza Strip and parts of Israel, and had you play as a Palestinian militant? Or a Taliban remnant in Afghanistan? Or hey, keep the crime thing, but make it more of a period piece, like maybe prohibition era Chicago / Detroit / Windsor? Imagine making liquor runs across the border.
The "safe" choice will be to just pick another city, make it more photorealistic, get more big names to do voice overs, and just give us "same thing, new story". It might even work, after all, the Final Fantasy games remain popular despite little effort to truly "reinvent" them.
Post by: TMW on April 11, 2006, 09:07:10 AM
Post by: Kairon on April 11, 2006, 09:30:54 AM
No, seriously, this sounds exactly like something I'd imagine them doing.
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: vudu on April 11, 2006, 09:34:47 AM
QuoteDidn't EA already do this with The Godfather?
Or hey, keep the crime thing, but make it more of a period piece, like maybe prohibition era Chicago / Detroit / Windsor? Imagine making liquor runs across the border.
Post by: Renny on April 11, 2006, 10:07:09 AM
Seriously. The next gen will be all about indoor sports.
Post by: TMW on April 11, 2006, 10:38:26 AM
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Originally posted by: vuduQuoteDidn't EA already do this with The Godfather?
Or hey, keep the crime thing, but make it more of a period piece, like maybe prohibition era Chicago / Detroit / Windsor? Imagine making liquor runs across the border.
Probably. But is that even a good game?
Post by: Ian Sane on April 11, 2006, 11:04:44 AM
Ideally it would work best as a spinoff like Starcraft is to Warcraft.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 11, 2006, 11:13:57 AM
Hell, if they can do Battlefield 2142, anything is possible.
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 14, 2006, 06:04:16 AM
Post by: oohhboy on April 15, 2006, 12:19:22 AM
Thats not a sword, THIS is a sword!
Post by: KDR_11k on April 15, 2006, 09:54:18 AM
