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Title: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Bloodworth on March 04, 2006, 09:02:32 PM
So mine's not going to be here for at least another week, but who's gotten their own piece of Liteness already?
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: KDR_11k on March 05, 2006, 12:56:42 AM
That's a misleading thread title, I was expecting a port of Elite for the DS.
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: Dasmos on March 05, 2006, 01:11:07 AM
I don't really see how. If the thread was for and DS version of "Elite", wouldn't it be name "Elite DS" or "DS Elite". I can see how the thread title would make you think that the game is a DS Lite exclusive, not playable on the regular DS.

Also no, I don't have a DS Lite yet.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: KDR_11k on March 05, 2006, 02:30:49 AM
Or maybe an Elite-branded DS Lite?
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 05, 2006, 05:11:31 AM
Oh you mean the DS eLite, the new, more compact version of the DS Lite with web-browser built in.  It'll only be available after you buy the DS Lite, sorry.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Ages on March 05, 2006, 07:39:10 AM
Haha, that's exactly what I was thinking KnowsNothing.  "Oh God, here's yet another version of the DS...Good thing I havent gotten my DSL yet"
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: animecyberrat on March 05, 2006, 03:03:33 PM
well it depends on how they price it when it comeso ut here, I haev to geta new DS cuz I broke mine today so I want to wait and see if the price drops on either model or see if I can get it fixed at a reasonable price but I need to do soemthing and I want a DS Lite anyways so Ill see when it comes out over here.  
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 06, 2006, 06:31:32 AM
Same. Be here next week.

But change "Elite" to "Early adopting consumer whore" and you have my opinion of myself on the subject.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Bloodworth on March 20, 2006, 05:24:53 PM
Anyone yet?  Smash_Brother, you hear anything?  You've got a week's lead on me at least.
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 20, 2006, 05:54:29 PM
I guess I'll give you the bad news...

From Lik-Sang in the reply email:
The stock that is currently available is way too little for Japanese gamers and not at all enough for all preorders that Lik Sang or anyone outside of Japan has received. While we could grab a few dozens today, we may be able to grab some more tomorrow and so on. If Nintendo starts shipping more quantities, please rest assured that we will do everything humanly possible to ship your order as fast as we can. At this moment in time, it is impossible to know how many units we will get on a daily basis, please stay tuned to the website for more information.

To make a long story short, be prepared for a waiting time of several weeks or under extreme circumstances even more. Please note that your credit card won't be charged until your order is shipping. Should Nintendo do some magic and increase production quantities tomorrow (despite not having announced anything so far), we will be able to ship your system faster. Please understand that the shortage is completely out of Lik Sang's control.

Please be sure we are really doing the best we can to get as many orders shipped out every day as we humanly can. You will receive and e-mail with a tracking number to notify you as soon as your order has been shipped.


Long story short, it could be a month+ before we see ours.

But these things are going for $250+ on ebay, which means that, if you decide it's not worth the $$$, you can always resell it for a tidy sum.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Bloodworth on March 20, 2006, 06:00:11 PM
I think we all got that e-mail. I guess that means no update for you either. Oh well.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 20, 2006, 06:11:03 PM
This was in reply to whether or not switching my order to white from navy would increase my chances of getting one.

From the sounds of it, no.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Bloodworth on March 20, 2006, 06:17:05 PM
That just means they're too overwhelmed to answer everyone's begging.  It's the standard message they've had since the launch day.  The truth is that whichever color is least popular will ship out quicker, you don't need them to answer that.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 20, 2006, 06:47:54 PM
True, and I suspect Navy is the most popular.

I guess it's better to wait it out than risk getting at the back of the line for white.
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: vudu on March 27, 2006, 10:11:55 AM
DS Lite production jumps in Japan
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Nintendo has announced that it will be stepping up production of the new portable, with its figures for March jumping from its original target of 450,000 units to 550,000 units. The future looks even better for would-be DS owners, with Nintendo revealing that 700,000 DSes will enter the pipeline in April.
Good news for Bloodworth, Smash_Brother, maryjane and anyone else who's still waiting to get their import DS Lite.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 27, 2006, 10:59:45 AM
That's good news, indeed.

I was hoping to get one before March is out but that certainly won't be happening.
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: Svevan on March 27, 2006, 05:07:04 PM
With any luck you'll get it by the US release.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 27, 2006, 06:01:27 PM
I fully expect to get it post-US release.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 28, 2006, 05:31:49 AM
I was just informed that mine shipped today.

I'm not looking forward to having to readd all of my friend codes, but the lighter console, brighter screen and thicker stylus should make it all worthwhile.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 30, 2006, 10:12:07 AM
Got mine today: stuck pixel on the touchscreen.

Anyone know any methods for getting rid of these or am I SOL?
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: ShyGuy on March 30, 2006, 11:41:25 AM
Check these out

http://wiki.ehow.com/Fix-a-Stuck-Pixel-on-an-LCD-Monitor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuck_pixel
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 30, 2006, 11:57:29 AM
Wow, thanks! Haven't tried it yet, but I'll DEFINITELY start here...
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Caliban on March 30, 2006, 03:14:36 PM
I'm sooooo darn lucky because of you both, ShyGuy and Smash_Brother, because I've had this green pixel on my new screen since I bought it and I actually thought it was a dead pixel, never did I figure there was such a thing as a stuck pixel. WICKED! Now I hope I'm lucky enough to get it fixed *crosses fingers*.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 30, 2006, 04:41:28 PM
I happen to have the necessary GBA components to write to a GBA card and upload the java program which will flash the colors to HOPEFULLY get it unstuck. They said to leave it on overnight and it might fix it. My pixel is neon green as well.

This is a make or break situation for me, as I'm as anal-retentive as they come and a bright green dot which is constantly on will DEFINITELY bother me.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: KDR_11k on March 30, 2006, 08:06:45 PM
Wait, there's a JavaVM for the GBA?
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: jasonditz on March 30, 2006, 08:22:32 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Wait, there's a JavaVM for the GBA?


Actually the GBA version is written in C.

I don't think the GBA is quite up to the task of a Java VM... it'd be cool if they did one for the DS though.


Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: KDR_11k on March 31, 2006, 03:15:54 AM
I suppose the DS could run one of those cellphone JVMs but AFAIK they suck. Badly. Some don't even have a garbage collector and pretty much none are 100% compliant.
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 31, 2006, 04:47:31 AM
Someone should write an executable which is downloadable by WIFI (ala the demos) and use that as a stuck pixel remover.

Also, bad news from the front...

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Thank you for your patience with the NDS ìdead pixel problemî.
This email contains somewhat bad news, but please donít shoot
us, we are only the messenger :/

After contacting Nintendo of Japan, their policy towards dead
pixel problem is not good news after all, they will not cover
dead pixel problems under warranty. This is different than what
Nintendo of USA does, but itís the official reply from Nintendo.

Unfortunately, they have shown us the cold shoulder and they
pointed at the user guide, where itís already written that dead
pixels are not a defect. We have not given up after the initial
reply and still asked them via repeated phone calls and emails
if there is still a way to get the systems replaced, unfortunately
without any luck.

Please understand that under the given circumstances we cannot
give you the answer you are looking for, we cannot get the systems
replaced from Nintendo. Attached are the relevant pages in the
user guide and their translations, as well as the emails received
after inquiring directly in Japan.

We have also done some more research on the Internet, and found
that this seems to be with all LCD manufacturers, not only with
Sony or Nintendo. For example it appears that Nokia is only
replacing their 6600 phone when there are more than 3 dead pixels
on the screen, and about PC monitors we even found more info:

HP will only replace a monitor with there are 4 scattered faulty
pixels or 3 clustered.
LG will replace a monitor if there are 2 within a 10cm circle.
NEX-NEC will replace 3 lit, 3 unlit or 6 color.
With Samsung six dead pixels are allowed, or nine, depending on size.
Sony will replace if there is 2 lit, 2 unlit or 4 dead.
Viewsonic will replace if there is 2 lit, 2 unlit or 4 dead.

Having said this, if you believe that your problem will be
considered as ëfatalí by Nintendo, and that they will replace
your unit after inspecting it, please let us know and we will
still issue an RMA number to return your unit to us in Hong Kong.
After we have received your NDS, we will send it to Nintendo of
Japan for repair on a monthly basis, which means that it can
unfortunately take a while. But please understand that if Nintendo
of Japan returns your unit with a note that it will not be replaced,
we are as helpless as you are. Please do not include any extra
items, just the base system itself. They wonít return any extra
items that we forward to them.

Once again we are truly sorry for any inconvenience caused.

With best regards /

Your Lik-Sang Customer Support team.


Long story short, my DSL would have to pass the "test" from some guy in Nintendo of Japan's QA department and if he doesn't think the problem is bad enough, then it'll be returned to me...after about a month.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: vudu on March 31, 2006, 08:09:12 AM
Hey, SB, let us know if it works for you.  I'd be interested in finding your results.  I'll most likely be picking up a DSL after the domestic release, so if I get a stuck pixel then I may have to borrow your GBA flash card.  
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: jasonditz on March 31, 2006, 08:49:41 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I suppose the DS could run one of those cellphone JVMs but AFAIK they suck. Badly. Some don't even have a garbage collector and pretty much none are 100% compliant.


The JVM on my Zaurus is pretty good, I would think the DS could handle something like that (albeit probably not at the same speed).
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 31, 2006, 08:59:56 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Hey, SB, let us know if it works for you.  I'd be interested in finding your results.  I'll most likely be picking up a DSL after the domestic release, so if I get a stuck pixel then I may have to borrow your GBA flash card.  


Deal.

But truth be told, if you get yours from a store, you can immediately turn around and swap it for a new DS if it has a stuck pixel(s). My first DS had stuck pixels and I brought it back to Gamestop for another one. Just make sure to boot it up before you leave the store.

I'm stuck with this one so, every night, I'm going to leave it closed and plugged in with the program running to try and eliminate the pixel.

I'm just glad it doesn't interfere with hunters (top screen is absolutely clear).
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: KDR_11k on March 31, 2006, 10:11:02 AM
Jason: The DS has 4MB of RAM that has to hold the VM and the program it's running. I'm not sure about the Zaurus but usually PDAs have a bit more than that.

I'm stuck with this one so, every night, I'm going to leave it closed and plugged in with the program running to try and eliminate the pixel.

I thought closing turns the screen off?
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on March 31, 2006, 10:25:33 AM
Not in GBA mode.
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 31, 2006, 10:29:26 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: PartyBear
Not in GBA mode.


Bear beat me to it...and then he stole my pic-a-nic basket!

I was actually going to mention that now I'm GLAD GBA mode doesn't hibernate. Otherwise I'd have this eerie light flashing on my wall all damn night...  
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: jasonditz on March 31, 2006, 11:43:25 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Jason: The DS has 4MB of RAM that has to hold the VM and the program it's running. I'm not sure about the Zaurus but usually PDAs have a bit more than that.

I'm stuck with this one so, every night, I'm going to leave it closed and plugged in with the program running to try and eliminate the pixel.

I thought closing turns the screen off?


That's a good point, but didn't the original JDK 1.01 from Sun only require 4 MB?

Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on March 31, 2006, 11:54:48 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother


Bear beat me to it...and then he stole my pic-a-nic basket!

Just don't report me to the Ranger (he's not gonna like that).
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Bloodworth on March 31, 2006, 03:44:45 PM
Well, it looks like mine is shipping out soon.  They attempted to charge my card today, but the bank flagged the transaction until I could be contacted.  Now I've put my approval through, and my system should be here next week.
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: IceCold on March 31, 2006, 04:02:36 PM
SB: Dead pixel aside, how is the DSL? Is it as good as all the impressions say it is? Anything else we should know about it? Thanks.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: KDR_11k on March 31, 2006, 06:50:37 PM
That's a good point, but didn't the original JDK 1.01 from Sun only require 4 MB?

Leaving how much for the program you're running?
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: jasonditz on March 31, 2006, 07:16:15 PM
what I meant to say was the JDK would run on a system with 4 MB of total RAM. That includes the computer's OS and the program.

So long as no libraries are loaded the JVM only leaves a couple hundred KB footprint. You'd probably need a more efficient graphics library for the DS (Swing or AWT would not only perform poorly but would require a fair amount of memory themselves), but I would think it would be very doable.

Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 31, 2006, 08:58:25 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: PartyBear
Just don't report me to the Ranger (he's not gonna like that).


Personally, I would have mauled that guy a long time ago...

Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
SB: Dead pixel aside, how is the DSL? Is it as good as all the impressions say it is? Anything else we should know about it? Thanks.


Screens are gorgeous, shape is significantly smaller than the regular DS, the device itself is ultrasexy, thumb nub is gone, volume is a bit weaker than the regular DS, and the D-pad is a little iffy. It feels too loose and makes moving in some games like Animal Crossing a bit cumbersome. It only seems to be Animal Crossing which I have this problem, though. Mario Kart drifting is now a relief on the thumb.

All in all, I am pretty pleased with it. I'd just like very much to get rid of this blasted pixel.  
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: KDR_11k on April 01, 2006, 02:45:15 AM
the device itself is ultrasexy

This is the only device worth calling "sexy".
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 01, 2006, 08:13:30 PM
Slide your fingers over the sleek, glossy exterior of the DSL and tell me that again.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Bloodworth on April 01, 2006, 10:15:31 PM
What, after he puts a big streak across the finish?  That doesn't sound sexy.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 01, 2006, 11:16:14 PM
As strange as it sounds, the smoothness of the exterior is pleasant to the touch.

I'm no technophile (and I mean that sexually), but there's something so appealing in the design that you'll find excuses to play it, even when you shouldn't be.  
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Bloodworth on April 03, 2006, 07:47:44 AM
 KWAI CHUNG,  HK      04/03/2006      6:33 P.M.      PICKUP SCAN

Now for the obsessive UPS refreshing as my DS Lite flies out of Hong Kong.
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 03, 2006, 08:16:16 AM
I'll be praying for no stuck pixels for you.
Title: RE:DS Lite Elite
Post by: MaryJane on April 03, 2006, 06:12:39 PM
2 of my friends have PSP's and I must say they are rather pleasing to the eye. When I whip out my DSL (NAVY BLUE BABY!!) in hopefully less than a week. They will all have portable-envy and beg to touch the beauty of my blue toy. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH. Inuendo's and the DS... will it ever stop? Touching is good.  
Title: RE: DS Lite Elite
Post by: Bloodworth on April 04, 2006, 11:21:10 PM
36 hour shipping ain't bad.  I had it at lunch today.  Still adjusting to the different EVERYTHING in terms of learning to hold the system comfortably.  So far I'm actually having the hardest time with the bigger stylus.