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Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Mingesium on February 26, 2003, 09:17:06 AM
newtechnix is reporting that Miyamoto said in an interview in Italy that Metal Gear Solid is coming to GameCube.  
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Nash Tulsa on February 26, 2003, 10:11:44 AM
Yes ! it's official ! finally Konami to make a real game for us !!
lol
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 26, 2003, 10:22:13 AM
Which is why it is nowhere else?
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Christberg on February 26, 2003, 10:31:30 AM
They're in the same timezone as Miyamoto, but don't get your hopes up just yet.  Newtechnix also reported GC Contra about a year ago before it was announced.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: MadMan on February 26, 2003, 10:46:35 AM
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Which is why it is nowhere else?

Which is why we need confirmation.  Which is why he posted it.  Can someone from planetgamecube comment on the reliability of this?
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Post by: willys85 on February 26, 2003, 11:03:36 AM
Do you really think that Konami will bring Metal Gear for The Cube?? come on konami thinks that all of we are some 3 years old kids who loves mickey mouse, and this rumours of Metal Gear for the cube allways are fakes
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: egman on February 26, 2003, 11:22:22 AM
I don't want to inflate people's expectations, but this seems like this will happen. A quick glance at the boards at Konami's site indicate that Konami has some interesting things in store for us; it's just that they have been really tight about letting that info out. I was disappointed after the Castlevania announcement, but I spoke too soon I think. It certainly looks like they are giving the system a chance, which was all really wanted.
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Post by: Grey Ninja on February 26, 2003, 11:23:33 AM
Kojima-sama has gone on record saying that he wanted to make a GameCube game.  This could be it.  Also, when Konami wanted to know what GC owners thought of their policies, their forums were wanged by all the GCN fans.  (To use Gabe's word for it...  )

But yes, I would really like some confirmation on this.  If it was an actual interview, someone else should be reporting the same information.  (PGC maybe?)

Any staff members wish to confirm or deny this?  I am really hopeful right now.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: ShockingAlberto on February 26, 2003, 11:30:24 AM
Hideo Kojima gives the most conflicting statements ever.  One day he says that Metal Gear does not belong on Gamecube, the next day he's all for it if Konami decided to.  The main reason I don't really respect the man is because he was baffled why he wasn't regarded as highly as Miyamoto and Naka, then stating "I think I'm as good, if not better, than both of them."  He later retracted that statement, but man, have some humility!  You've made a few good games, nothing like Miyamoto.

-- ShockingAlberto

(crap, Miyamoto Shrine used to make mention of this, but I can't find it now)
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 26, 2003, 11:34:02 AM
He actually said that?  LMAO!  I think my respect for the man just went down a few pegs.  He's done some good work in his day, but he is no Miyamoto.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: GanonSlayer on February 26, 2003, 02:49:56 PM
I also heard about this. Hope it's true...
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Locke Cole on February 26, 2003, 02:52:02 PM
I really want this game for the cube.  I've played it on ps2 a couple of times at my friends house.  The only thing is how are they going to program the control scheme?
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Gibdo Master on February 26, 2003, 03:47:13 PM
The nintendojo.com forum has an interesting discussion going on about this. Click here to check it out.
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Post by: Darc Requiem on February 26, 2003, 04:07:28 PM
Hey Gibdo thanks for the link, you were right its a very interesting discussion. Seems that the game is supposedly a remake of MGS1. A remake that is more extensive than the RE1 remake. While I still don't think this rumor is true, it seems too perfect, I can certainly keep my fingers crossed. Well if this turns out to be true maybe we can get some other Konami classics on Gamecube.

Darc Requiem  
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Post by: EggyToast on February 26, 2003, 05:13:39 PM
Why would Miyamoto, the guy responsible for producing and directing Nintendo games, know anything about Konami's plan to remake a game?  And why would he blab about it to the press?

Don't believe it until Konami says it.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 26, 2003, 05:15:32 PM
I already own the original MGS for PC, but if it comes to GameCube in an enhanced form, I will buy it all over again.  The game is one of my favorites of all time, and it could only get better.  (Although they had better well leave the voice acting as-is.)

However, if they are thinking of porting the crap that is MGS2 to GameCube instead, I could really care less.  I hate that game.
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Post by: Sean on February 26, 2003, 05:25:01 PM
Grey, I do remember reading in an EGM interview with...let's see...I think it was Kojima and others back when MGS2 had rocked E3 with a trailer or something and they were talking about how GameCube was for kids.  This I remember VERY clearly, but whether or not Kojima said it, I cannot recall--I think so, though.  Anyway, this didn't make him my mortal enemy, but I did find it a bit distressing that a company as big as Konami was helping to perpetuate the myth that games made for all are inherently games for children.

Like the best children's literature, the best games for children are games that adults can and should like, too.  For instance, I challenge you to read Madeleine L'Engle's A Wrinkle In Time and not either fall deeply in love with it and its unforgettable characters.  Is it a "kid's" book?  Technically, yes.  But where it matters, it's just good literature, and that knows no age boundary.  
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Post by: Grey Ninja on February 26, 2003, 05:38:23 PM
I remember that article.  However, Kojima later said that it was a mistranslation, or he was misunderstood or something, and expressed his desire to make a GameCube project, as he personally wasn't of that mindset.  I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

As for a Wrinkle in Time, I was forced to read that in gradeschool, and I remember hating it.  At any rate, I do understand your point, as Watership Down was a children's book that I loved, and I know many other adults who love it as well.  And believe me, I do get your point on the games too.  But as far as games rated E always being kiddy, that's not true.  A game can only be Kiddy if it is on a Nintendo system.  Look at all the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro fans after all.  (Or better yet:  Kingdom Hearts.)
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: RahXephon on February 26, 2003, 05:48:21 PM
they should change the rating too A(all) or M(mature). No need for a teen rating.  I mean it is a stupid rating.  Super Smash Brothers Melee got a teen rating.  I sold a gamecube to a lady with 2 kids when i workd at target, and she wouldnt buy SSBM because of that stupid T.  I at that moment began to hate the T rating.  It is a waste of Box art.  
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Post by: DrForester on February 26, 2003, 05:48:54 PM

why it is nowhere else?

Becasue this is most likely bullshit, that's why.  
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: ThePerm on February 26, 2003, 05:50:08 PM
gamecube could pull it off like nothing...managing the disks woudl be difficult though.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: RahXephon on February 26, 2003, 05:50:30 PM
nothing wrong with optimism.  
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: theblindtree on February 26, 2003, 06:06:04 PM
True or not, I personally would prefer a remake of the original Metal Gear.  Many people missed out on that boat, and it would be interesting to see it in it's fully realized.  Well, I think it would certainly be a more interesting remake than MGS.  I loved the game, but I don't see the point in remaking it, unless there were some major ideas that were left out.

Sure, RE was remade, but that game really benefited from the atmosphere that's possible with this generation of consoles.  I don't see how that would relate to MGS.  That said, I'd still buy the game as I never owned the original.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 26, 2003, 06:10:36 PM
blindtree, you are really onto something.  I have the Metal Gear cart, but I have never finished the game, or even gotten reasonably far as the game is stupidly difficult.  It would be interesting to see the original two remade.  And I have heard from someone I trust that Metal Gear 2 was by far the best in the series, and MGS was like a cheap clone of it.  (I am talking about the one on MSX, not NES)
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Post by: Perfect Cell on February 26, 2003, 06:31:04 PM
Well its on IGN folks, there might be some substance to  this rumor after all. I wonder if its a remake of the NES Metal Gear Solid if true
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Post by: AlphaDragoon2002 on February 26, 2003, 08:10:10 PM
I wouldn't mind getting MGS2: Substance for GC, I actually liked the game.  Come on, you can be Snake the whole time!  Even better, Raiden has the sword the whole time.  THE EFFING SWORD.  Anybody who fights troopers with guns AND a badass sword a la Dante gets my respect.  Anybody who can go effin' Kenshin on those fools and reverse blade the sword gets my praise.

Also, a remake like GC Resident Evil of the first one would rock, if only to see Meryl again.  Another WTF regarding MGS2...
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 26, 2003, 08:36:46 PM
Alpha, I hated both Raiden, and the plot of MGS2.  Substance just doesn't cut it.  The entire game would have to be reworked to make me happy.  The tanker level was awesome, but every bit after that got progressively worse.  By the time I got to the end, I hated the game.  But I promptly started on the tanker level again right after I had finished the game.  The difference then was I had the brains to quit when Raiden came on stage.  

A remake of the first MGS game would be a dream come true for me.  Can you imagine the last cut scene with Sniper Wolf with GameCube's hardware and Prologic II sound?  I almost peed myself thinking about that...  Actually, I might just og relive that scene right now.  It stands as one of the greatest video game moments EVER in my books.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 26, 2003, 08:47:28 PM
well nowhere else except IGN maybe
go chech their guys, they post it as unconfirmed info but the fact alone that they
acknolwege the credibility of this rumor so fast make this all a little more likely
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Post by: Nephilim on February 26, 2003, 11:25:09 PM
proberly true
the man who made MGS2 said he was disapointed in the Playstation2.
Plus has shown some negative plus good feedback on Gamecube
plus he meet shiggy last year
I dont know why all you fan boys hate Konami so much
Not like there big into Xbox also, Konami makes games for profit
easiest way to make a profit is making games for ps2 and gba, its simple
I guess there no relizing that this will be a big year for nintendo, and wanna follow suit
now stop being haters
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: bryanee on February 27, 2003, 01:53:04 AM
NINTENDO OF EUROPE has confirmed that its true guys, so no more speculation its true, cube-europe confirmed
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 01:53:50 AM
imagine Konami doing with the GCN in relation to what Konami got out of the PS2
im thinking, AWESOME graphics
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: ruby_onix on February 27, 2003, 02:01:22 AM
Here's a link to Cube Europe saying they got confirmation on it from Nintendo of Europe.

http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=3758
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 02:12:10 AM
gamefront.de is saying the MGS Remake is multi system and doesnt even make specific mention of GCN

but if Nintendo Europe confirms this it ought to be true
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Kai on February 27, 2003, 04:51:30 AM
Hideo Kojima has said the occasional thing in the past that he probably regrets, who hasn't? Let it go folks, the time to talk about that isn't now, he is trying to do the right thing by us here.

I don't think anyone here hates Konami, quite the opposite.

This is excellent news, a Konami game to look forward to for the 'Cube, that is actually worth looking forward to....mmm....Metal Gear Solid goodness.
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Post by: Nintendork SP on February 27, 2003, 05:21:50 AM
The only things I would wan't from Konami are as follows:
Goemon game (these rule)
A Real Contra (these rule)
A DDR game (these rule)
These suck:
Disney Sports titles (these suck)
Deadly Arts (Deadly Farts)
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 05:50:59 AM
im not mad at kojima for anything, in fact, im grateful hes working on GCN project(s) (if he is)
but face it or not so far the konami support hasnt excactly been satisfying

if this is true, that would be so great
a MGS with graphics even much better than MGS2 (and hopefully less crappy annoying radio calls and cutscenes)
would be great
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: theasylumofthedamned on February 27, 2003, 06:00:04 AM
What the fanboy inside of me wants to say:

*pimpslaps the PS2 and Xbox* Who's yo' daddy? *slap*

What I have to say:

Well, if NOE was first to confirm "Metroid GBA" as a "Metroid IV," despite rebuffals from NOA, then if NOE has confirmed any kind of Metal Gear game, then I'll take it as my bread and butter.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 06:03:31 AM
yeah i agree
lets see, but oh this could be so great

and whats up with the reports on gamingage.com about this game being multiplattform?
could hardly be if nintendo and konami are working together nor would Miyamoto talk about a multiplattform game
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Post by: ShockingAlberto on February 27, 2003, 06:39:09 AM
There might be a multi-platform game and a Nintendo exclusive one.  That is, assuming this is true.  Also, I don't hate Konami, I just don't like Kojima.  He's a great designer and all, but he thinks he should be king of the industry.  Just my two cents, I can't really purport what someone else thinks.

In addition, I find the idea of MGS2: Substance funny.  I never knew console games would require you to buy a brand new game just to play what should have been in the game in the first place.

-- ShockingAlberto
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Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 07:11:34 AM
well, hes young, hes very good, so hes arrogant and self confident
but i bet that deep inside hes nothing compared to myiamoto

I mean, Myiamoto is to gaming what John Lennon, Bach and Mozart were for music. Im sure that I will visit hes grave when he dies, and I bet a couple of you would too.

He really deserves some kind of Honor not related to the videogaming industry, and honor for peacefully (as in non-violent games) donating masterpieces to the Industry. Like a Nobel Prize
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Post by: Bill Aurion on February 27, 2003, 07:22:56 AM
though this is one rumor that could maybe possibly come true...i just HAVE to crack on ign...knock yourself out

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-12-16&res=l  
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Post by: egman on February 27, 2003, 07:30:48 AM
I like your thoughts Hemmorrhoid. The guy is truly amazing, especially when you take into account that he came into industry almost by accident.

Shoot, the way games are becoming significant in our society, an actual Nobel like award for a developer like Miyamoto maybe a possiblity rather than a joke.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 07:30:53 AM
this would be soosossssoo great
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Post by: Nintendo on February 27, 2003, 09:25:39 AM
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Originally posted by: theasylumofthedamned
Well, if NOE was first to confirm "Metroid GBA" as a "Metroid IV," despite rebuffals from NOA, then if NOE has confirmed any kind of Metal Gear game, then I'll take it as my bread and butter.


And I guess they were wrong about the new GC Zelda having the subtitle: The Wind Waker too.

Throwing in petty arguments like these lead to nothing, as it's not confirmed by NOE nor NOA through any official press, so it makes more sense to hit a pig with a stick right now.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 09:35:44 AM
why cant it be possible the NOE reports something first?
after all, they are in a earlier timezone
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Post by: ShockingAlberto on February 27, 2003, 09:36:07 AM
I love these "confirmations" sites get from NOE.

"Hello, Nintendo of Europe."
"Uhm...yeah...could you please direct me to...*shuffles through papers*....MetalgearscomingtoGamecube?"
"What?"
"That's all I needed to know! *click*"

-- ShockingAlberto
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 10:07:18 AM
hey shockingalberto
are you alberto####(some freaky number)
from the old boards?

anyways, why should NOE be wrong about this?
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Post by: Christberg on February 27, 2003, 10:27:57 AM
The admin over at the Konami boards has confirmed it too.
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 27, 2003, 10:31:47 AM
If there is prove spread the link love...otherwise what are we discussing?  
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Post by: bryanee on February 27, 2003, 10:38:03 AM
hes right admin at konami hav confirmed
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 27, 2003, 10:47:50 AM
During most of Lennon's life he was not considered a great artist. Not until after he was dead did he attain that title.

On topic again, Dr.- that was my point, it is most likely BS. As Rick said set your bullshit detector to high.
 
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Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 11:23:43 AM
more and more confirmations sinking through
one more day and we know for sure

manuforeva, sure John Lennon wasnt recognized that much as an artist back then, but that was in times of musical revolution, music went through many revolutions

and im sure many people still dont see videogames as art, but one day they will, and shiggy will be the hero
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Post by: Scyth3r on February 27, 2003, 11:29:58 AM
Heres a nother one...

"Metal Gear Solid on GameCube!
NEWTECHNIX.com is reporting that Nintendo of Europe has confirmed through them that Nintendo Co. Ltd. is working with Konami to upgrade Metal Gear Solid for the Nintendo GameCube. The announcement comes after Shigeru Miyamoto, while on tour in Europe to promote The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, told Italian press on Monday that Konami was working on the title. Of course, GAF reported this way back in the beginning of December, thanks to an inside source. Hopefully, a more formal announcement will come soon. Stay tuned!"

Source:  http://www.gamesarefun.com/
Source they got it from:  http://www.newtechnix.com/Affichage_Article.php3?Id_Article=9352 (I can't read French?)  
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 27, 2003, 11:32:14 AM
Great...the same source copied to another site..
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Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 11:32:29 AM
ok, how can this still be BS

sounds great, especially coz i havent played MGS yet
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 27, 2003, 11:40:33 AM
How could the megaton be BS, how could Vivendi buyout  still have been BS. I will stay skeptical until I see links or a statement from a much larger site.
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Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 27, 2003, 11:49:30 AM
yeah you could be right on that one
im not taking this for confirmed yet
but this time the evidence is really strong
stronger than Megaton evidence ever was
we are talking about NOE statements here
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Post by: bryanee on February 27, 2003, 11:51:05 AM
http://www.konami.com/main/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001080

go to konami forums the admin there hav confirmed it in the ok gang thread,,jeez how much more proof do u lot need
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Post by: Grimlock on February 27, 2003, 11:51:28 AM
In case anyone was wondering what the Konami board admin's post was, here it is:

"I can tell you that YES, just as Mr. Miyamoto stated, a metal gear game for the GC is in development, but honestly, that is all the info that is available. But this is what I was talking about when I said I can't wait for E3 (I dont know what info we will have there but there should be some more by then I would guess), and believe me, you guys can't wait either! So i know its not all of our hit franchises coming to cube, but it is one of our best and hottest ones and a deserving one at that. And who knows, if this game sells what it should, you may get your Castlevania and Contra yet!"
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Post by: ShockingAlberto on February 27, 2003, 11:52:17 AM
Believe nothing until NCL or NOA confirm it.

By the way, I'm new to these boards, so no, I'm not Albero#.

-- ShockingAlberto  
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Post by: bryanee on February 27, 2003, 11:53:17 AM
its true whether u want to believe or not
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Post by: Grimlock on February 27, 2003, 12:02:01 PM
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Originally posted by: ShockingAlberto

Believe nothing until NCL or NOA confirm it.

So you're saying you don't believe NOE, Miyamoto, the Konami board administrator, who works for Konami itself, and  this news story???  I don't really know how much more official you can get than that, barring an official press release.
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Post by: Darc Requiem on February 27, 2003, 01:12:47 PM
Well given the increasing number of confirmations my skepticism is waivering but until Rick Powers himself confirms it.....I wont consider it fact. That stated I'm really starting to get my hopes up. It would be nice to have Snake on cube. I can only imagine how great the game would look if it were built from the ground up for the Gamecube and if Nintendo really is co developing it. That means it will be Cube only.

Darc Requiem
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Post by: willys85 on February 27, 2003, 01:14:43 PM
Damn it, I didn't see this post and i' ve made a new one, damn it
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Post by: ShockingAlberto on February 27, 2003, 01:57:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Grimlock
I don't really know how much more official you can get than that, barring an official press release.


Then that's what I want.  Sorry, I've watched this industry long enough to know that, no matter how many sources you have, there's no replacement for official press releases.

Oh, and did you hear?  Nintendo's going to buy Capcom, there will be a mature-themed Zelda/Shiek game, and Nintendo's going to fold it up and go third-party.

-- ShockingAlberto
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Post by: Grey Ninja on February 27, 2003, 02:06:14 PM
Ok, that's enough for me.  Time to break out the champagne now I think.  From the sounds of it, this is something OTHER than MGS2, and for that I am indeed very happy.  If it doesn't include Raiden, I will positively jump for joy.  Maybe I will begin to take back all that stuff I said about Konami for the last few years too if this is really good.  
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Post by: Locke Cole on February 27, 2003, 02:11:26 PM
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Originally posted by: ShockingAlberto
Quote

Originally posted by: Grimlock
I don't really know how much more official you can get than that, barring an official press release.


Then that's what I want.  Sorry, I've watched this industry long enough to know that, no matter how many sources you have, there's no replacement for official press releases.

Oh, and did you hear?  Nintendo's going to buy Capcom, there will be a mature-themed Zelda/Shiek game, and Nintendo's going to fold it up and go third-party.

-- ShockingAlberto


LOL nicely said Alberto.  I agree with him and I won't jump for joy until I hear something from Nintendo Power or NOJ or NOA say something about this.  
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 27, 2003, 02:24:49 PM
NOJ is not the correct name, NCL is, sorry for the nitpicking.
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Post by: Sean on February 27, 2003, 02:31:36 PM
I will say I'm intensely interested as to what will come of Miyamoto's involvement with the title, if we can believe that he really and truly will be collaborating in the making of such a game as Metal Gear Solid. The mind reels with possibilities. Really it does.

As for whether or not it's actually happening in the first place, you can sit and say, "I don't believe it," if you want, and I understand your apprehension considering past faux-pas like "TEH MEGATON" (forgive me, I hate the whole "teh" thing as much as you do), but no one can deny that these are extremely believable sources.  No harm in getting excited about it.  Lord knows we've seen disappointment before and we will again.  ;-)
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Post by: Locke Cole on February 27, 2003, 02:47:47 PM
Thank you for correcting me.  I didn't know that NCL stood for it.  
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Post by: nolimit19 on February 27, 2003, 02:52:06 PM
once planetgamecube or nintendo.com announce it, i will believe it. i mena maybe u all took ur stupid pills today, but havent we seen things like this happen time and time again. no matter how much i want it to be true, i will wait for the celebration.
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Post by: AlphaDragoon2002 on February 27, 2003, 03:14:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
Alpha, I hated both Raiden, and the plot of MGS2.  Substance just doesn't cut it.  The entire game would have to be reworked to make me happy.  The tanker level was awesome, but every bit after that got progressively worse.  By the time I got to the end, I hated the game.  But I promptly started on the tanker level again right after I had finished the game.  The difference then was I had the brains to quit when Raiden came on stage.  

A remake of the first MGS game would be a dream come true for me.  Can you imagine the last cut scene with Sniper Wolf with GameCube's hardware and Prologic II sound?  I almost peed myself thinking about that...  Actually, I might just og relive that scene right now.  It stands as one of the greatest video game moments EVER in my books.


Raiden was cool.  I had no problems with him, especially once he got the sword.  I mean, the guy took out like 5 Metal Gears with a sword and a bazooka!  Just because he wasn't Snake didn't mean he was a scrub.  I did hate the plotline at the end (seemed like it was trying to rip off Evangelion or Xenogears or something), but oh well.  As long as they deep six the "Patriots", Rose's AI, and Vamp all will be right with the world.  Oh yeah, and they need to make Emma live, and put in real Rose instead of that bi**h you deal with through most of the game.  So basically, it's exactly like you said-change some stuff and it'll rock.  

As I said before, a remake like RE would be cool, the only thing is I'd have only half the interest, since I played the original (I never played the original RE) but again, seeing Meryl again would be worth it.  

Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Perfect Cell on February 27, 2003, 03:15:08 PM
It was reported at EGM and IGN two of the more respected sites on the web, A guy from Konami hinted at it and ive read that NOE has confirmed it. It might seem illogical, but why? Couldnt Nintendo pay Money hats like Microsoft did for Susbstance? Its not that impossible. I for one am happy and i hope its a remake of the NES Metal Gear  
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: ruby_onix on February 27, 2003, 03:20:41 PM
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once planetgamecube or nintendo.com announce it, i will believe it. i mena maybe u all took ur stupid pills today, but havent we seen things like this happen time and time again.

A number of smaller, mostly-reputable, European sites put up a rumor and everyone thinks it's real = We've seen it time and time again.

A number of smaller, mostly-reputable, European sites put up a rumor, then update saying they've all personally gotten verbal confirmation of it from Nintendo of Europe. Then even the Administrator of Konami's message boards pops up and says "Well, the secret's out of the bag now, so I might as well confirm it. It's true." = Not exactly common.
Title: Metal Gear Solid for GameCube
Post by: Mingesium on February 27, 2003, 03:56:57 PM
It seems that the game is coming out. If you still want to discuss if the game is coming  out or not, you should go to the MGS thread in the talkback.. I'm changing the topic to Metal Gear Solid Discussion.

So far I only heard about a GCN-GBA link and Konami hiring the original actors for additional voices.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Razex on February 27, 2003, 04:18:29 PM
Now I'm going by you guys...but I hope this is either a new MGS or a remake of the NES games, because I've already played MGS on the PC, and it wasn't that great. It was good, but not awesome, but that's probably because I just played through it last year. Anyway, I'm just happy to see some support from Konami. I really don't know why I'm even speaking like it's coming out already. But I like to be positive I guess.  If this game does come out make sure all you guys buy it (I definitely will) because maybe then Konami will start making some other games for GC. Castlevania and Contra perhaps...? I think GC is really starting to turn around, right when it looked like GC was going the way of the Dreamcast...
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Icons by Size on February 27, 2003, 04:24:12 PM
i really hope this is a new game too. im sick of getting ports like 10 billion years (dramatization, may not have happened)  after they were initially released.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Perfect Cell on February 27, 2003, 04:45:06 PM
I hope it gets the NES Metal Gear as an unlockable Other than that i got no requests
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: RahXephon on February 27, 2003, 04:51:09 PM
check the news, it is OFFICIAL, and has new missions, could this be a new installment in the seires.  But hey, it is on PGC, so it MUST BE FOR REAL.  Hooray earth.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 27, 2003, 04:55:05 PM
You guys will note that PGC cited Nintendophiles who cited the, yep, you guessed it, our favorite Konami message board admin. Not saying PGC is half-assing it- by no means, they were almost certainly checking the credability of the story, but it's interesting we had this guy under our noses for like a month.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: RahXephon on February 27, 2003, 04:57:08 PM
I am just so happy about this.  MGS is another one of thos great games that can be mature, but have little violence.  I am so very excited, by the way, while typing this, I have seen my 50th Zelda commercial.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Sean on February 27, 2003, 05:12:59 PM
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As for a Wrinkle in Time, I was forced to read that in gradeschool, and I remember hating it. At any rate, I do understand your point, as Watership Down was a children's book that I loved, and I know many other adults who love it as well. And believe me, I do get your point on the games too. But as far as games rated E always being kiddy, that's not true. A game can only be Kiddy if it is on a Nintendo system. Look at all the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro fans after all. (Or better yet: Kingdom Hearts.)


Grey, as usual, your insights are astounding.  Nintendo's got a lot of misrepresentation to fight against, for sure.

Too bad you had to read "Wrinkle in Time" in school.  It sucks when that happens.  Maybe it's just unlikable for you, but school reading tends to be pretty hard on almost any literature today.  Know what I'm saying?  That said, I had pretty good luck my first year of teaching last year with Seamus Heaney's "Beowulf" and Bradbury's completely awesome "Fahrenheit 451."  If you didn't like "Beowulf," it's probably because you read it in school, and it's now time for you to buy Heaney's new version and approach like a newborn babe finding his mother's milk.  Okay, that's just wrong, but you catch me, I think.  
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: nolimit19 on February 27, 2003, 06:04:31 PM
well its official in my book, and that is good to hear.......
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 27, 2003, 06:12:06 PM
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Originally posted by: Sean

Grey, as usual, your insights are astounding.  Nintendo's got a lot of misrepresentation to fight against, for sure.

Too bad you had to read "Wrinkle in Time" in school.  It sucks when that happens.  Maybe it's just unlikable for you, but school reading tends to be pretty hard on almost any literature today.  Know what I'm saying?  That said, I had pretty good luck my first year of teaching last year with Seamus Heaney's "Beowulf" and Bradbury's completely awesome "Fahrenheit 451."  If you didn't like "Beowulf," it's probably because you read it in school, and it's now time for you to buy Heaney's new version and approach like a newborn babe finding his mother's milk.  Okay, that's just wrong, but you catch me, I think.


I'm glad you like the way I think.    I left the last board I was a member of because my ideas became too unpopular with the Sony fans of the board, and I got into a direct conflict with an admin because of it.  (He was posting things that he knew weren't true as obvious flame bait.  I got sick and tired of it one day, requested that my post count be cut to zero, changed my password to gibberish, and walked out.  This is where I turned up.).

As for the book, yes, it probably was because I learned it in school, but I am not really a fan of the classics either.  I mostly only like the contemporary literature, and I haven't read anything at all in years, although I do mean to read Return of the King one of these days.  

One exception to that though is Edgar Allen Poe.  I first read Poe in high school, and I actually really enjoyed it.  It was twisted and well written enough that I could get around it being taught in school.  I really respect Poe's work.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: SilverBack1138 on February 27, 2003, 06:26:46 PM
Guys, I'm totally excited about this!!!!  I have both MGS's and I must say that Metal Gear has to be one of my favorite game series of all time.  I've heard rumors that this was going to be a remake of MGS.  I'm not sure, but I would love a totally original MGS title for GCN.  Maybe Kojima is having second thoughts about dissing the GCN.  If an MGS title does well for the GCN, maybe we'll see more support from Konami.  If we can get as much support from Konami like we do Capcom, the GCN may gain some much needed market share.  Maybe we'll even see some games like a new Contra or Devil May Cry for GCN.  I think that Japanese developers are the key to GCN's success.  I don't mind since I'm also a big Sony fan, but Nintendo is my console company of choice and anything like this would be great news.

On a side note, I regard Kojima as a genius with games, but Miyamoto is god-like.  
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: ThePerm on February 27, 2003, 06:50:41 PM
i grabbed my heart when i read pgc. I hope this is true. PGC doesnt report shit, and i trust their reputation. This is still a little shakey...but yeah. Fuckign tight. Maybe the new logo is a good thing. I would say it looks nicer next to the nintendo logo.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: ArtVandelay on February 27, 2003, 07:20:54 PM
It might not even be Metal Gear Solid. The guy did just say "a metal gear game". If it's an all new one, then Konami better not make some stupid storyline about Snakes Summer Vacation. They better finally give us some respect. Any way around it, if this turns out to be what we're all hoping for, then if it sells damn well (which it probably will) Konami will no doubt bust out Castlevania and a crap load of awesome titles. I'm just waitin on Turtles in Time Cubed.  
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 27, 2003, 07:23:18 PM
The administrator just posted again.  He said it was probably a safe bet that the game was GameCube exclusive.  I think it's about time to rub it all in the Xbox fans' faces...  hehe.  (Childish I know, but there's nothing I like better than showing up a Microsoft Fanboy.)

I tell you right now though.  Crappy or not, I am buying this game, just to show my support for GameCube, and Konami's return.  I suggest you all do the same.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 27, 2003, 09:24:12 PM
The Magic Box reports that it is an unconfirmed rumor that a remake of MGS is coming to all consoles, including GameCube, but right now I would have to say that my money is on the Konami board administrator for having good information.  He says it's a good bet that it's GameCube exclusive.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 28, 2003, 12:07:41 AM
HOLY DUNG BEETLES! I just left the board for a few days and i come back to see that one of my favourite games ever is coming to Gamecube!!! And Miyamoto has something to do with it! Wouldnt it be awesome to use the GC/GBA link cable in Metal Gear cubed?? You could drop spy cameras on the cube and on the gba you can see throught them, ooohhhh there are so many awesome GBA link possibilities, it makes my head spin. Nintendo Gamecube now has Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Mario Kart, Metroid and Metal Gear Solid. Now all we need is GTA...
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Infernal Monkey on February 28, 2003, 12:15:11 AM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
i grabbed my heart when i read pgc. I hope this is true. PGC doesnt report shit, and i trust their reputation. This is still a little shakey...but yeah. Fuckign tight. Maybe the new logo is a good thing. I would say it looks nicer next to the nintendo logo.


The new Konami logo is a disaster. How could they have gotten rid of the odd, yet funky, red and orange 'thing'?
And what about the classic Konami jingle that plays when the logo rolled out on screen?

Screw MGS, I want the old Konami logo back!
*Cries like a girl*

Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 28, 2003, 01:05:40 AM
IGN now state is as fact, they dont however say if its exclusive, but they dont talk about other systems either.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: bryanee on February 28, 2003, 02:33:26 AM
sum websites say that shigsy is helpin konami with this so if this part is true i think its a safe bet that its exclusive cuz i dont see him workin on a multiplatform title and plus as a chap sed above the admin at konami sed its more than likely exclusive to cube.  
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: GoldShadow on February 28, 2003, 05:21:57 AM
This is cool.  I just hope it's a new game or at least a MGS2 port instead of a MGS remake.  Metal Gear Solid was a fun game, but I already beat it.  I want something new.

Anyway, I'd have to agree that both Watership Down and Fahrenheit 451 are *excellent* books.  I love Ray Bradbury's surreal style and Richard Adams's  great sense of legend.  I never read A Wrinkle In Time, though.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: NNCubed on February 28, 2003, 05:31:50 AM
KIK A$$!!  Ive been gone for a while and look what pops up.  It is quiet obvious that the title is exclusive, would Nintendo be working on it too if it wasn't?-No.  Then i wonder about the MGS remake thats going multiplatform, guess thats true but I'll wait till Konami gives a go.  In the end I would asume that this title isnt a port but a new epsiode, a side-story actually.  I couldnt see the point in having 2 MGS remakes on the GC so.  I'll definately be buying this one up, I wonder how far along they are.  A well, bout time Konami got its head out of its a$$...
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: AlphaDragoon2002 on February 28, 2003, 06:00:02 AM
Only one thing to add to this...

Hell, yeah.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: BlkPaladin on February 28, 2003, 07:30:22 AM
Shiggy did help with the Smuggler's run game that ended up being for the PS2. Just because he is helping with it doesn't mean its exclusive. It just gives it a good chance to be.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 28, 2003, 07:57:47 AM
shiggy did help on smugglers run?
on such a crappy game?
are you kidding me?
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: ThePerm on February 28, 2003, 09:17:09 AM
  KONAMl Look its the old logo!

i was just saying that since the logo is red and black and nintendo's is red in black they might look really cool together.  And when did you hear shiggy worked on smugglers run?
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: bryanee on February 28, 2003, 09:28:59 AM
since when has shigsy worked on smugglers run
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: FF2K on February 28, 2003, 09:29:07 AM
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If it's an all new one, then Konami better not make some stupid storyline about Snakes Summer Vacation.


Snake's Xtreme Beach Volleyball anyone?
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: AlphaDragoon2002 on February 28, 2003, 03:26:14 PM
Hey, I just heard that Konami of Japan announced they wouldn't be making anymore Xbox games.  If this is true, then that raises the chance of this being a GC exclusive.  Sucks for the MS fans though...
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Moonwatcher on February 28, 2003, 03:41:33 PM
Metal Gear Solid 2 on GC= Good
Metal Gear Solid Remake GC= Really Good
Entirely New MG Game on GC= Awesome
Entirely New MG Game Exclusive to GC= Good and Really Awesome Good
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 28, 2003, 05:32:56 PM
Glad to see I was wrong.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: rpglover on February 28, 2003, 05:35:22 PM
if they do remake a metal gear it should be metal gear solid- which was the best one
but they could also pull a remake of the first one such as what capcom did with remake
they could have the same kind of levels but up the graphics
hopefully they would keep the same quotes though- (i feel asleep; the truck have started to move)
yeah it would be great
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Perfect Cell on February 28, 2003, 05:49:49 PM
According to the Gamespot interview with Miyamoto, Konami has wanted to bring Metal Gear for a while no to the cube. And that theres a few projects not just 1 game. Interesting stuff!  
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: theasylumofthedamned on February 28, 2003, 06:47:46 PM
What I think would really be special is a re-interpretation of the NES/MSX old-skool Metal Gear Games. Yes, I mean the 8-bit Metal Gear, Snake's Revenge and Metal Gear II. Why? Because Metal Gear was never very popular until MGS came out on the PSX. A ton of nu-skool Metal Gear fans (myself included) feel like they've missed out on a staple of which the whole MEtal Gear story was based upon. You know, we missed the old characters like Greyfox and Bigboss, including Snake's epic duel to the death with Bigboss in MGII.

But then again, a totally new Metal Gear game would really kick ass! And we'll get it for sure this time! Wheeee!!!
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: GoldShadow on February 28, 2003, 07:19:56 PM
Wow, a remake of the NES game would be great!  It'd basically be an entirely new game - it would give you a chance to really see the plot as it was meant to be seen.  I never thought of that.  I think maybe one "I feel asleep" should be made as a homage, but that's about it.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Tael on February 28, 2003, 07:23:22 PM
If they're going to remake any of the old Metal Gear games, they should remake the MSX versions, as the MSX version of Metal Gear was much better (Konami of America botched the translation of Metal Gear, and for some reason the sewer section at the start was missing in the NES version, you just parachute in), and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake was a completely different game from Snake's Revenge on the NES.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: pimpcube on February 28, 2003, 10:24:47 PM
wtf... did i read konami bustin out a mg game and a few other games??? i thought i'd never live to see the day

:hat
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 28, 2003, 11:18:40 PM
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Wow, a remake of the NES game would be great! It'd basically be an entirely new game


Yeah I agree if they remade such an old 2D game on and now made a 3D game fully utilizing the GCN hardware and with probably much increased story line and like a thousand changes it would basically be a new game.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Moonwatcher on March 01, 2003, 05:35:27 AM
I'd love to see an alltogether new MG gear game but a remake of one of the NES games would be just fine.
I never managed to get very far in those old MG games because they were so pointlessly hard, but if I remember correctly the first one starts out in a jungle.  That would be very cool on the GC.
In any case, I no longer have a reason to buy a PS2!
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 01, 2003, 08:42:02 AM
yeah this could be great
mgs2 had great graphics but on GCN it could be so much better
konami are good at pushing hardware
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: manunited4eva22 on March 01, 2003, 12:26:23 PM
Which hardware have they pushed amazingly far?
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 01, 2003, 05:54:16 PM
PS2.  Check out Silent Hill 3 for example.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: JoeSmashBro on March 02, 2003, 11:54:26 AM
http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2003&m=2&nid=26-74.db

Gaming Age has reported that a Metal Gear Solid remake is indeed in development for several platforms. IMO, this really sucks harcore. I loved the first MGS, but I never got to play the 2nd one, so i would prefer either that or a new one. If I want to play the original Metal Gear Solid, I can just boot up the ole' playstation or pick it up for $10 for PC.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: manunited4eva22 on March 02, 2003, 02:22:11 PM
How come no one ever atleast says 'Our inside sources say' instead of 'we confirm'?
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Mario on March 02, 2003, 06:15:54 PM
http://nintendo.com.au/nintendo/news/index.php

It doesnt get more official than that people...  
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Gonandorf on March 02, 2003, 06:40:32 PM
Hi,New member to the forum.Glad to be here
personally,i would absolutely love it if this Metal Gear game turned out to be a remake of the  absolutely wonderful,fantastic,amazing-insert limitless praise adjs- PSX game.I absolutely loved that game to the death, and i played it and didn't get to finish it,cuz i borrowed my bro's PSX,and due to some reasons,stopped almost by the end of the game.So now is my chance to relive that amazing game,with completely revamped graphics,this game would be an absolute must-have for everyone.One condition though,is that they MUST-repeat MUST-keep the original voice-overs,and only re-do the graphics.that's what i think anyway.

Oh,by the way,i only played two games on the psx-which is a testimony to how much i loved both:Metal gear Solid, and Castlevania:Symphony of the Night.  

Again,its good to be here,looking forward to talking to you guys.


Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 02, 2003, 06:53:30 PM
Whoa, a real news story.....from Nintendo of Australia.

Could it be?

But really, finally, Konami are making a Metal Gear Solid game for Gamecube. A METAL GEAR SOLID game, for GAMECUBE.
I have to tell all my friends.
If it's the first two, then this is really something worth talking about. If it's Substance or some other spin-off, then, well, I guess the fact that there's a MGS game on the Gamecube is good enough. If it's Metal Gear Solid 3, then well, open pop open the bubbly, and let's celebrate!
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: theasylumofthedamned on March 02, 2003, 08:10:56 PM
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Originally posted by: FF2K
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If it's an all new one, then Konami better not make some stupid storyline about Snakes Summer Vacation.


Snake's Xtreme Beach Volleyball anyone?


Yay! Then we can see Otacon in a speedo! Try playing that AND keeping your eyes on the screen at the same time!
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 03, 2003, 05:07:11 AM
So is Kojima working on this one or not?
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Mingesium on March 03, 2003, 05:39:03 AM
He is working on it.

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It is true that we are working with Mr. Kojima to try and bring the Metal Gear series to the GameCube but at this point we really haven't talked at all about any kind of connectivity features.


from the DICE Roundtable
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: ShockingAlberto on March 03, 2003, 09:15:13 AM
Well, that shuts me up.

-- ShockingAlberto
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 03, 2003, 09:21:20 AM
cool, kojima and myiamoto working together on a classic
thats so great

i think it will look so much better than MGS2
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 03, 2003, 10:18:17 AM
Tell me guys since it Metal Gear being remade, whats the deal about this game?
Does it play similar to MGS(tactical espionage)? Does it feature Snake? Was it originally in 2D, on which plattform?
Was it good?
Title: Metal Gear Solid Discussion
Post by: kusanagi on March 03, 2003, 10:18:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Hemmorrhoid
cool, kojima and myiamoto working together on a classic
thats so great

i think it will look so much better than MGS2


From the transcript I'm reading, it appears there may be some confusion surrounding this "working together".  What I read was that Miyamoto would be "working" with Kojima to bring MGS to GC as opposed to working "together" on the project.  Can anyone confirm this?