Post by: trip1eX on February 24, 2006, 02:43:51 PM
I want to know what you think the Revolution's big secret is? You know the last big Revolution feature Nintendo has yet to reveal.
Now what I want here is a community brainstorm. As such there is no right or wrong. So please do not criticize or comment on other people's ideas in this thread. God knows there's plenty of threads for that. And that goes for me too. Believe me I'll have a hard time.
But I shall adhere.What I will do is edit this first post every so often and update it with every idea posted in this thread. Anyway please no debating or commenting in this thread about the validity of ideas. Just present a guess and a short description of it and what benefit it will bring the Revolution.
The last secret of the Revolution is
1. Impressive disc format
2. Software implementation
3. True 3d (glasses, projection, ...)
4. Visual Representation
5. Concept selling game
6. Wireless video streaming to the TV
7. Camera functionality in controller
8. Microphone functionality in controller
9. Internet support
10. Visor/Goggles/Virtual Boy 2
11. PLay games downloaded from 'virtual console' with the new controller
12. Use any Nintendo character (customized however you want) in any game
13. Optional Snap-On LCD
14. Touch sensitvity on remote controller
15. Some graphical breakthru (mapping technique?, ...)
16. Leverage SD card use as some kind of big feature
17. All games cell-shaded in primary colors only
18. Controller heats up
19. Gyros in controller will give resistance
20. No load times
21. Voice to Text translation
22. Enhanced DS to REv interface
23. USB ports exist for a reason
24. Store virtual consoles games on pc hard drive
25. Biometrics
26. Controller also a Voip Phone
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on February 24, 2006, 02:53:32 PM
Post by: BigJim on February 24, 2006, 03:46:05 PM
Um, actually I don't really think there is going to be anything else that blows us away. The "big" idea is the experience with the controller. I don't think there's a lot more they can do without blurring the message. Unless it involves shocking me if I mess up in a game. Negative reinforcement training. Like those mice that press the red button to get a pellet. And those monkeys that prefer cigarettes over food.
I think the big ideas will be in implementation (software). Exactly what, I dunno.
Post by: Caliban on February 24, 2006, 03:47:26 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 24, 2006, 03:47:52 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 24, 2006, 04:41:49 PM
Now they hid Super Mario Sunshine and no one copied the waterpack because it was pretty lame. So I'm not saying this title is as big of a deal as Super Mario 64 was. But Nintendo wants it to be and is treating it like it is. They're going to show off this title with huge grins across their face. Hopefully they won't be the only ones smiling.
Post by: Artimus on February 24, 2006, 04:52:12 PM
Post by: trip1eX on February 24, 2006, 05:17:12 PM
Post by: trip1eX on February 24, 2006, 05:27:49 PM
Microphone in the remote controller. Control your game with your voice. HOld the remote like a phone. Also use the remote for Voice over IP phone calls.
Surf the internet with the Revolution. Keep in touch with gaming friends. Check up on gaming scoreboards. Get the latest gaming hints, secret codes, reviews and walk-thrus.
Post by: Michael8983 on February 24, 2006, 05:47:26 PM
Nintendo is already doing the mic thing with the DS so it seems natural to bring it to the next level with the REV.
How else are you going to give commands to your virtual puppies in Nintendogs Revolution.
A built in cam could be really cool. Again Nintendo has toyed with this type of thing before. But I think we're more likely to see such a thing for the DS. The evolution of the Gameboy Camera. But who knows maybe a year from now we'll be taking pics with our DS camera and wirelessly uploading them to the REV.
Post by: Artimus on February 24, 2006, 06:30:23 PM
And there's not wireless streaming, we already know it has an output port.
Post by: nickmitch on February 24, 2006, 08:10:34 PM
A concept selling game is a given. It is required unless the rev is supposed to fail and is actually nothing about the console itself.
WiFi was promised. (I think.) Unless you're referring to a browser, then that would not happen without a 3rd party dev. (see DS)
True 3D? Maybe next, next gen, but not now.
The disc format has to be it.
Post by: Michael8983 on February 24, 2006, 08:23:44 PM
That way all developer will feel free to use it. If it's only included with a certain game, developers will shy away from mic support since most of the userbase won't have it.
Ideally, I think the Rev controller package should have the remote, analog attachment, shell, and mic.
Post by: trip1eX on February 24, 2006, 08:26:23 PM
Post by: trip1eX on February 24, 2006, 08:45:18 PM
PLay virtual console games with the new controller: Relive the classics in a new way!!! Duckhunt with the remote controller? Jump in Super Mario Bros by nudging the controller up. A fresh twist on old games.
Use any Nintendo character in any game: Play as Donkey Kong in Zelda. As Samus in Metroid. Anything you want goes. Customize your characters in any game.
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on February 24, 2006, 11:45:36 PM
Post by: Mario on February 25, 2006, 01:17:51 AM
I think something to do with the graphics is an obvious one, but who knows.
Post by: zakkiel on February 25, 2006, 06:52:53 AM
All Rev games will be cell-shaded in strictly primary colors.
Post by: Ceric on February 25, 2006, 06:56:14 AM
Controller heats up.
Stereotopic goggles. The split being done by hardware. Be less work for the system and it would give even well designed older games depth.
Post by: MaryJane on February 25, 2006, 06:58:58 AM
eating seeds as a pastime activity the toxicity of our city, of our city, yeah so anyway. Maybe there's more than one.
Post by: trip1eX on February 25, 2006, 07:24:06 AM
Post by: trip1eX on February 25, 2006, 10:05:30 AM
Post by: IceCold on February 25, 2006, 11:26:30 AM
Well, they could always include it as an attachment with their game. Nintendo has said that attachments will be cheap and easy to make.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 25, 2006, 11:42:54 AM
Seriously, it has to be the graphics and something about them. There's no way in hell they'd hold off a screenshot of all the games for THIS long unless there was something worth hiding.
If the graphics suck, why hide them? They'll only be disappointing come E3 and no amount of controller innovation is going to change that.
Post by: zakkiel on February 25, 2006, 12:23:35 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 25, 2006, 12:27:14 PM
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Originally posted by: zakkiel
Because presumably people will be focused on the experience of playing at E3, and this will overshadow the graphics.
But what about the other 99.999999999% of the gamers in the world who didn't go to E3?
That's an awful lot of players you're asking to take on faith the fact that you need to play the game to believe it, especially when Nintendo knows that graphical lust will sell a lot of games.
At this point, it might just be an "all at once" sort of event which Nintendo is banking on, but I think that, in terms of secrets, the controller is likely the biggest one the Rev has. I don't see anything else the Rev is doing as pulling as much of a surprise as the controller did.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 25, 2006, 01:36:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
But what about the other 99.999999999% of the gamers in the world who didn't go to E3?
That's an awful lot of players you're asking to take on faith the fact that you need to play the game to believe it, especially when Nintendo knows that graphical lust will sell a lot of games.
TOUGH LUCK. THEY'LL HAVE TO READ TO THE SEPTEMBER ISSUE OF GAMEPRO. GOOD DAY, SIR
D=
If E3's about showing us gamers what we can pre-order "on the spot," then yeah gamers should get the media directly. But I always thought E3's an event to pitch to retailers so they can decide on shelf space and what items to stock for the remainder of the year; exciting the customers directly comes second, cuz we receive the product second, after retailers.
=O
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 25, 2006, 03:18:37 PM
Post by: Zach on February 25, 2006, 03:34:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: zakkiel
Because presumably people will be focused on the experience of playing at E3, and this will overshadow the graphics.
But what about the other 99.999999999% of the gamers in the world who didn't go to E3?
That's an awful lot of players you're asking to take on faith the fact that you need to play the game to believe it, especially when Nintendo knows that graphical lust will sell a lot of games.
At this point, it might just be an "all at once" sort of event which Nintendo is banking on, but I think that, in terms of secrets, the controller is likely the biggest one the Rev has. I don't see anything else the Rev is doing as pulling as much of a surprise as the controller did.
Thats why it is so important that they have demo kiosks in the stores. On TV advertisements, people see the graphics, and they might say "Thats not so special." However, the controller is so unusual (and revolutionary, if it is implemented well) that when a person actually plays it, they realize how fun it is, and dont care as much about the graphics. DDR is a great example of this, that game is such a hit, but it is impossible to realize how fun and addicting it is untill you play it.
Post by: nemo_83 on February 25, 2006, 04:11:20 PM
Post by: Ceric on February 25, 2006, 04:19:53 PM
Post by: Switchblade Cross on February 25, 2006, 05:30:11 PM
Post by: BigJim on February 25, 2006, 05:36:56 PM
EA Claims Touch Sensitivity?
Note: The mock-up is someone's guess.
Post by: IceCold on February 25, 2006, 05:49:15 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 25, 2006, 05:52:20 PM
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Thats why it is so important that they have demo kiosks in the stores. On TV advertisements, people see the graphics, and they might say "Thats not so special." However, the controller is so unusual (and revolutionary, if it is implemented well) that when a person actually plays it, they realize how fun it is, and dont care as much about the graphics. DDR is a great example of this, that game is such a hit, but it is impossible to realize how fun and addicting it is untill you play it.
Still, kiosks for the unit won't likely be available until 1-2 months prior to its release and that's a big window for people to see and draw conclusions about the graphics.
And DDR is a horrible game. Those 9 footers are murder on the arches...
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Someone told me Sharp makes the screens for Nintendo's portables so I searched for news on Sharp and came across their 3D screens
See, now that's just sexxxxxxy...
If the screen is an optional accessory, then I think I see why they didn't support HD.
Post by: Ceric on February 26, 2006, 04:49:17 AM
Post by: zakkiel on February 26, 2006, 06:49:39 AM
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But what about the other 99.999999999% of the gamers in the world who didn't go to E3?
They'll be reading previews by the people who did.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 26, 2006, 07:10:43 AM
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They'll be reading previews by the people who did.
Yes, and reading previews <<<<<<< trying it yourself, I'm sure.
Like I said, if the graphics are no big deal, hiding them will only set fans and potential buyers up for disappointment.
Though, I admit that the time it can do the LEAST damage is when there will be journalists who have tried the thing and could say, "The graphics suck, but it's so much fun!"
Not that I'm saying they will, mind you, but you know people are going to pick at Nintendo about them.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 26, 2006, 06:16:47 PM
Post by: zakkiel on February 26, 2006, 06:23:11 PM
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Yes, and reading previews <<<<<<< trying it yourself, I'm sure.
Still >>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots, which is the point here. The idea is to hide the negative media under a whopping ton of positive media. Makes perfect sense. That's how politicians do it all the time.
Post by: Caliban on February 26, 2006, 06:46:19 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 26, 2006, 07:53:30 PM
Post by: nemo_83 on February 26, 2006, 09:51:48 PM
I guess there will be a new thread on this. The things I found most interesting about the video were: that it showed Nintendo's use of sensors to detect the distance you were from the TV long before the remote showed it was possible, the game editing ideas, and the microcosm/macrocosm Nintendo logo was themed exactly like the one shown at E3 by Nintendo. This is suspicious article number four.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 26, 2006, 10:00:59 PM
Post by: Artimus on February 27, 2006, 05:45:45 AM
Post by: Artimus on February 27, 2006, 05:47:50 AM
That's the original On picture. NO KODAK. End rumour.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 27, 2006, 07:47:36 AM
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Originally posted by: zakkiel
Still >>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots, which is the point here. The idea is to hide the negative media under a whopping ton of positive media. Makes perfect sense. That's how politicians do it all the time.
Point made.
And on the subject of the On, Nintendo hasn't given their press conference at the Kodak yet. Do these people have a time machine or something? Does the helmet double as a time machine?
Post by: Ian Sane on February 27, 2006, 08:01:31 AM
Post by: trip1eX on February 27, 2006, 09:44:37 AM
If not, would you wager the secret is in the list we came up with or outside it?
Post by: MaryJane on February 27, 2006, 09:51:40 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 27, 2006, 09:56:26 AM
They must exist for a reason, and we don't know what that is yet.
Post by: MysticGohan on February 27, 2006, 10:24:13 AM
Post by: Zach on February 27, 2006, 10:46:22 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
I think it has to have something to do with the USB ports.
They must exist for a reason, and we don't know what that is yet.
I got an idea, what if you could use your computer as extra storage for you virtual console games?
The only problem is that it would be difficult to prevent people from using file sharing programs, like what has happened to music and movies.
Post by: Caliban on February 27, 2006, 11:18:57 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 27, 2006, 09:21:48 PM
Post by: MaryJane on February 28, 2006, 04:06:10 AM
. I'm just bustin ur balls btw.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 28, 2006, 09:54:28 AM
Maybe the controller uses Biometrics to identify who is holding it?
Post by: Ceric on March 01, 2006, 03:59:26 AM
Rev: Welcome your are not Cindy. Who are you?
Dave: Dave
Rev: Nice to meet you Dave. What is your Birthday?
Dave: November 25, 1982
Rev: Thank you Dave. Tell me what would you like to be known as Dave?
Dave: Lumbo Reaver 3...
Rev: Now that we know each other. Do you have a Nintendo Wi-Fi account or maybe a DS with credentials?
Dave: No.
Rev: You know Dave, before we part, People your age like these games. Also, for your amusement, these are the games that people who have similar screen names enjoyed and this is what other Daves liked. If you need me do not hesitate to ask. Enjoy your gaming.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 01, 2006, 04:10:18 AM
Post by: trip1eX on May 08, 2006, 07:47:27 PM
Post by: Crimm on May 08, 2006, 07:58:50 PM
That leads me to the all but confirmed speaker in the wiimote. Gun sounds from your "gun" would be really immersive, but I don't think that's it. If it were he wouldn't have singled it out as something distinct from the wiimote.
