Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: TMW on January 12, 2006, 11:09:46 PM
Title: Reggie in Feb's NP...
Post by: TMW on January 12, 2006, 11:09:46 PM
He has a little editorial thing in the front of this months NP...and something he said caught my attention...
"Our third-party partners are...working hard on launch titles right now."
Had it been confirmed before now that there would be third party launch titles? Am I just slow?
Or did Reggie just drop a bomb?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 12, 2006, 11:14:00 PM
I bet the Rev port of the 360 version of Peter Jackson's King Kong is coming along just fine, as other fine software like Need For Speed: Last Year's Moving Violation.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2006, 12:51:05 AM
what about Burn Out 3: Burnt Out, Madden is it still 2006, & Tony Hawk: Retired Skater?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 13, 2006, 02:23:36 AM
btw, I haven't gotten this NP issue yet. Are they running late AGAIN?
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Post by: JonLeung on January 13, 2006, 03:46:29 AM
Yeah, I got my January issue what seemed like ages ago...where's my February one?
I remember like 10-15 years ago when it was the norm to get the month's issue on the 20th of the month that it's supposed to be for. Now that we get them as early as the end of two months before, I'm all, like, "where's my issue?" before the previous month is even half over!
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 13, 2006, 04:03:11 AM
Nintendo sucks.
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Post by: animecyberrat on January 13, 2006, 06:09:30 AM
actauly I was hoping there would be some madden and need for speed games ready for launch, you wont get casual gamers with out sports games. And King Kong looks like a good game. I just hope that there are some good 1st person shooters and some good fighting games to set the pace better than Cube did. and i wish peole woudl get off Resident eveil, that series sucks anyways. oh wait I was replying to to different threads in this post never mind the RE statement.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 13, 2006, 06:22:02 AM
"Had it been confirmed before now that there would be third party launch titles?"
If Nintendo has to confirm third party launch titles then they're pretty screwed. I just assumed that there would be because, you know, the console would probably completely bomb otherwise.
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Post by: IceCold on January 13, 2006, 07:53:34 AM
If they were exclusive third party games, on the other hand..
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Post by: JonLeung on January 13, 2006, 08:00:45 AM
If they make enough use of the unique Revolution features, which as launch titles, they really should, then they would be exclusive...or they'd probably have seemingly clunky controls on the other consoles. Which would work in Nintendo's favour.
But if they're porting games over from the other consoles, then it wouldn't work as well. They should be developed for the Revolution from the ground up, or at least first, for them to "count".
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Post by: BlkPaladin on January 13, 2006, 09:06:45 AM
Well I know that EA is making titles, but I doubt considering the company that they are exclusive. And some of the devlopers will have enough time to make a decent game.
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Post by: Artimus on January 13, 2006, 10:06:18 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane "Had it been confirmed before now that there would be third party launch titles?"
If Nintendo has to confirm third party launch titles then they're pretty screwed. I just assumed that there would be because, you know, the console would probably completely bomb otherwise.
But if they didn't I can totally see you going "Nintendo has not said there will be third party launch titles, so obviously there are none. Nintendo has no third party support. The Revolution sucks. Nintendo is going to die" in an argument, though.
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Post by: Strell on January 13, 2006, 10:15:59 AM
Third party launch games should always be read as "EA will provide stupid ports."
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Post by: BiLdItUp1 on January 13, 2006, 10:21:47 AM
This shouldn't be news. OF COURSE third parties will have launch titles, it's common sense. Nintendo can't launch with just two games; this isn't the N64.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 13, 2006, 10:39:14 AM
"But if they didn't I can totally see you going 'Nintendo has not said there will be third party launch titles, so obviously there are none. Nintendo has no third party support. The Revolution sucks. Nintendo is going to die' in an argument, though."
I would never assume the Rev would have no third party support. No matter what the Rev is going to have Madden and Tony Hawk. EA, Activision, and Ubisoft support EVERYONE. They even support the N-Gage.
Now I would say that Nintendo hasn't given us much indication that they have meaningful third party launch games on the way but the only way to know that would be if they told us outright what the games are. At this point at best we get information on who is making launch games and we could somewhat determine if there was anything worthwhile coming from that.
If when Nintendo reveals the first games and announces the launch date they don't have any real third party stuff to show or announce then I will assume it's because they've got nothing to show. But until then the huge amount of secrecy prevents one from coming to that conclusion yet. I'm not really expecting much but I figure we'll get at least ONE somewhat significant third party launch game. Even the weak DS launch had an exclusive from Sega.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 13, 2006, 12:50:59 PM
Super Monkey Ball would count as "TEH AWESOME" 3rd party launch game.
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Post by: IceCold on January 13, 2006, 01:14:51 PM
Quote Originally posted by: JonLeung If they make enough use of the unique Revolution features, which as launch titles, they really should, then they would be exclusive...or they'd probably have seemingly clunky controls on the other consoles. Which would work in Nintendo's favour.
But if they're porting games over from the other consoles, then it wouldn't work as well. They should be developed for the Revolution from the ground up, or at least first, for them to "count".
That's the big problem; EA, Activion etc will either not use the motion sensing or if they do, it could turn out terrible if it was rushed. In the perfect world, the Rev's controller would make third party games different and better on the Revolution, giving buyers more of a reason to get a Rev than a 360/PS3. However, multiplatform companies typically rush the ports and don't spend much time on one console. Especially since the Rev isn't even the market leader; it would be highly unlikely.
And if 3rd parties use the NRC unintuitively and it worsens the gameplay, then it could be really bad for Nintendo's image.. That's why I like what Nintendo is doing by going out to third parties and suggesting ideas for their franchises. Hopefully they work to keep these types of games off the market.
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Post by: Requiem on January 13, 2006, 01:23:21 PM
I much as I understand why people hate EA, it isn't fair to judge them so quickly.
I mean, if they launched Fight Night with REV controls it could be a fantastic launch title. And honestly, something like that you couldn't get wrong. You'd have to try to screw it up.
EA produces quality for the consoles it mainly focuses on. I mean, I love playing FiFa 06 or Burnout on my Xbox and PS2. They are probably some of my favorite this gen games. If they focused on the REV (which they have the ability to do, and since the REV is really easy and cheap to dev for), then the titles could be extraordinary.
Also, I remember a quote from EA (on an unrelated note, they were the first to pledge support to the REV) where they said they would devote time in solely experimenting with the controller and try out all sorts of possibilities for the REV. I see this as a very good sign that they won't sloppily add REV controls.
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Post by: IceCold on January 13, 2006, 01:35:43 PM
But I can almost guarantee you that their games will be developed with the PS3/360 and HD in mind, then scaled back to be put on the Rev. This will be done quickly, so multiplatform titles are probably going to look really bad on the Rev. And the Cube got a bad image because multiplatform games on it were worse since they weren't developed specifically for the Cube, so think about what this will do to the Revolution. I also remember that EA quote, but it doesn't mean anything yet..
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 13, 2006, 01:37:55 PM
"I mean, if they launched Fight Night with REV controls it could be a fantastic launch title. And honestly, something like that you couldn't get wrong. You'd have to try to screw it up."
Considering that I think EA screws up practically EVERY game they ever make I assure you they could make it suck. They can make anything suck. Their whole mission statement is based on making dumb-downed generic entertainment which by its very nature sucks. The very design of the Rev in theory is to stamp out the sort of generic forget-it-exists-six-months-later dribble EA has built an empire out of.
And like IceCold mentioned EA would design Fight Night for the PS3 and then port it and thus not make good use of the motion control.
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Post by: Djunknown on January 13, 2006, 03:37:22 PM
If the DS is any indication, EA and other 3rd parties who just try to cram a port (Looks at King Kong DS, Madden, Need for Speed) with out using its features, the Rev's in trouble. Or if all they do is just adapt it to the 'classic' style of play with the shell, that's just sucky too.
The Big N may have to oversee that every single non-exclusive 3rd party game is not a steaming pile of crap. Its got to be at the very least as compentent as the other systems, and as mentioned earlier, ideally head-and-shoulders above them.
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Post by: jasonditz on January 13, 2006, 05:32:18 PM
How can you possibly start a sentence with "If the DS is any indication..." and end it with "the Rev's in trouble."?
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Post by: nickmitch on January 13, 2006, 06:25:53 PM
Well, with the Rev, the shell is key. It allows games to be ported to the Rev without any problems. Not every game needs to use the Rev's features. Madden can just be Madden on the Rev. That would be ok because if EA tried to apply all their games to the Rev's features, as Ian said, they would suck.
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Post by: stevey on January 14, 2006, 03:59:40 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane Now I would say that Nintendo hasn't given us much indication that they have meaningful third party launch games on the way but the only way to know that would be if they told us outright what the games are.
I disagree, I think there will be a lot of good 3rd party games at launch. There hasn't been any good third pary game since 04 for the cube and (I think) that because they're working on great launch games for the revo.
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Post by: Berto2K on January 14, 2006, 04:47:16 PM
Ubisoft was confirmed long ago as working on a Rev exclusive FPS...I would think that should make it out for launch, or within 2 months.
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Post by: JonLeung on January 19, 2006, 12:17:02 PM
I still haven't gotten my February NP! >
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Post by: Requiem on January 19, 2006, 12:36:52 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane "I mean, if they launched Fight Night with REV controls it could be a fantastic launch title. And honestly, something like that you couldn't get wrong. You'd have to try to screw it up."
Considering that I think EA screws up practically EVERY game they ever make I assure you they could make it suck. They can make anything suck. Their whole mission statement is based on making dumb-downed generic entertainment which by its very nature sucks. The very design of the Rev in theory is to stamp out the sort of generic forget-it-exists-six-months-later dribble EA has built an empire out of.
And like IceCold mentioned EA would design Fight Night for the PS3 and then port it and thus not make good use of the motion control.
Well maybe, but I think you have less faith in them then I do, that's all....
Honestly, I don't know who wouldn't pick up Fight Night REV if they made it even remotely good. Simply having control of a character's arms would be fun; not to mention beating the living sh!t out of your opponent.
EA could very well, by themselves, bring gamers flocking from other systems. I know for a fact that most casual gamers in the U.S. have either a PS2 or Xbox simply for sports. I'm not sure how you can make Madden any more intuitive, but I have some ideas. Even so, Tennis, Golf, Baseball, Racing, and Boxing could become potential hits that are only realized on the REV. EA can make alot of money here, even if a very small margain of the population buys a REV. I mean look at the Dreamcast.....how many people bought Round something or other with Afro Thunder?
If they [ut the time and effort into it, they will reap benefits. Thus, that is what I place my faith on....
Actually, come to think of it, I wish Sega would throw in some sports games. I remember Virtua Tennis becoming my favortie sports game for a good while.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 19, 2006, 02:38:32 PM
Beach Spikers is my favorite non-Mario sports game.
I wish BS(lol) gets a Rev sequel and Daisy's a playable character I can dress up and ACHIEVE ABSOLUTE VICTORY WITH.
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Post by: Hocotate on January 20, 2006, 01:20:22 AM
EA just sucks hard all around. One game that could work out well from EA would be The Sims. But knowing EA, they're likely to port the game without using the NRC features... When the game would work great using them.