Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: MarioDS on January 10, 2006, 01:00:33 PM
Title: Nintendo conducts "Virtual Console" service survey?
Post by: MarioDS on January 10, 2006, 01:00:33 PM
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Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on January 10, 2006, 01:18:54 PM
Any confirmation?
As far as the screens go, i like the menues. They look very retro. When the Rev comes out, I'll take mine apart and mount it in a NES case.
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Post by: Artimus on January 10, 2006, 01:24:41 PM
Ummm...those menus are so ugly they make yo mamma look nice. No way on earth those are real screens...and if they are...Nintendo sucks.
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Post by: Strell on January 10, 2006, 01:29:21 PM
I call BS for these reasons:
1. Illusion of Gaia 2. Ogre Battle 64 3. Sin and Punishment
Now, I want these games. Desperately. But they stick out terribly because they are not first party (S&P is an exception, but I listed it as it was not released in the USA).
Also, why Mario Party 3 only? Where is Super Mario World 2? And while I hope for Goldeneye, does Nintendo have the license/rights to do that?
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Post by: IceCold on January 10, 2006, 01:34:21 PM
No, at the moment EA does..
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Post by: JonLeung on January 10, 2006, 02:11:26 PM
For goodness sakes.
GoldenEye as a retro download is a license to print money. Okay, maybe not, but it'd be a huge hit again.
I don't care if Nintendo had the license with Rare, who's now part of Microsoft, or that EA currently has the James Bond license. (And Sony owns MGM now, do they not? I don't even know if that last part even matters, though.) SOMEBODY do the talking to get this game available. Pass the money around!
But anyway...those screens could easily be faked. I would prefer something closer to DefectDS's mock-ups.
EDIT: The source, Joystiq.com, says they're merely mock-ups for the survey.
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 10, 2006, 02:28:14 PM
Because myspace is the best source for news ever, correct?
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Post by: animecyberrat on January 10, 2006, 03:19:34 PM
Well Sony Pictures owns the Spider-man Movie and its games are ported accros all platforms so the movie company probabaly doesnt have much say other than granting the initial liscence.
Also if Sony can make a buck off of Nintendo you can bet they will. I sort of like the menu it looks a lot like what I was envisioning anyways. Wait just a second, there's no Killer Instinct in that list! Somebody must pay now!
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Post by: Zach on January 10, 2006, 03:23:33 PM
One thing that I found interesting is the "rent" option, if this is real though, it has me worried. How much more would a game have to cost if you were to consider renting it?
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Post by: animecyberrat on January 10, 2006, 03:54:01 PM
99cents to rent for half an hours $2.00 for the Download.
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Post by: Requiem on January 10, 2006, 03:58:53 PM
That game list BLOWS!
There are many things wrong with it, so I call this FAKE....
Nintendo wouldn't just up and make a survey. And if they would, it would be on Nintendo's site and all those that subscribe would get an email. Furthermore, this is a survey, correct? Why would Nintendo make a survey that you can't actually participate in?
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Post by: nickmitch on January 10, 2006, 04:01:44 PM
EDIT: Nevermind.
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Post by: mantidor on January 10, 2006, 04:15:25 PM
Illusion of Gaia and Sin and Punishment were all published by Nintendo, so it isnt crazy to think the list might be real, the weird one is Ogre Battle 64.
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Post by: Requiem on January 10, 2006, 05:49:02 PM
No, the weird ONES are having Rare IP's and not having BattleToads, Perfect Dark, Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo Kazooie, and Killer Instinct 64! Having Punch Out!, but not Super Punch Out! Mario tennis, but no MarioKart 64! I mean, where are the franchises? Where are the sequels?
This list just screams ametuer.
If it's true, then I am horribly dissapointed. I would of rather had ALL Nintendo games then this list of mediocrity.
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Post by: IceCold on January 10, 2006, 06:49:18 PM
Even if this is true, it's probably just a working list.. there's no way in hell Nintendo won't release Mario Kart 64. Maybe it's alist of games that will be available at the start, then new ones will be released as the time goes on, although if that were the case, it seems like they would release too many at the beginning.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 10, 2006, 07:17:56 PM
"List of mediocrity"? Hahahaha, no...Most of these games are absolute classics...
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Post by: King of Twitch on January 10, 2006, 08:20:52 PM
If they would just trim the Never Happenings out, they would be that much more believable
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Post by: TrueNerd on January 10, 2006, 09:16:44 PM
OMG! The multitude of Kirby games! I'm fine with this being an initial games list. Although, I suppose I need to get an actual broadband internet connection to enjoy any of this...
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Post by: Requiem on January 11, 2006, 04:21:02 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill Aurion "List of mediocrity"? Hahahaha, no...Most of these games are absolute classics...
It's mediocre (sp?) because of how incomplete it is. Sure it's has many awesome games, but where are the rest? It's like an entre with no appetizer, salad, or dessert. I mean sure I'll enjoy the meal, but those extras go a long way.
I'm just dissapointed by the size of the list. Hopefully you guys are right and its just preliminary...
Is this story even true?
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Post by: Nephilim on January 11, 2006, 04:30:14 AM
Lame that people still dont accept nintendo could get permission to use goldeneye from EA 3rd company makes a game (rare) + Rights owner to licence and publisher (EA) + Asks to publish the game, gives money for it (nintendo) = download
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 11, 2006, 04:33:08 AM
Nintendo isn't going to put their entire library out at launch...
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Post by: JonLeung on January 11, 2006, 04:46:08 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill Aurion Nintendo isn't going to put their entire library out at launch...
That's what I keep saying myself.
People seem to think it'll be all there but I'm sure they could, and likely will, release some at a time to maintain interest.
Japanese games would take time to translate and third-party developers may take a while before even negotiating for their games to be available, anyway. Even if everything and everyone could be on board, why throw everything out at once?
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 11, 2006, 06:25:53 AM
"One thing that I found interesting is the 'rent' option, if this is real though, it has me worried. How much more would a game have to cost if you were to consider renting it?"
That's a good point. If these are in the cheap impulse-buy price range we all want it to be what would be the point of renting? If a download is less than five bucks there's not much reason to spend only a dollar to rent it. It only really makes sense if the games are $20 or higher.
Unless the rentals are free. What if Nintendo just gives you to option to try a game out for 15 minutes? You can't save, can't rent more than one game at once, and can't rent the same game more than once a month so if in fact you can beat the game in 15 minutes you still can't just load it up any time you want. But it lets you see if the game is for you before buying it. This is just pure speculation on my part but it would be a neat idea.
As for Mario Kart 64 Nintendo might have the idea that it would cut into sales of current Mario Kart games. That's kind of a silly idea but Nintendo has apparently always been sour on demos because they think it cuts into sales so you never know what logic they're using.
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Post by: Requiem on January 11, 2006, 08:57:55 AM
That's a great idea. One of the best I've heard. Maybe 15 mintues is too long though (well for the NES and SNES anyway). Maybe with different games they can employ different timers, although I just see that as more work that probably isn't neccesary.
Japanese games would take time to translate
Umm....What? They are going to translate games?
I thought that each region has its own server for the games released in that region. If you wanted a game not released in your area, you can download it from another. I never heard anything about translating. That would take roughly.......forever.
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Post by: JonLeung on January 11, 2006, 09:04:44 AM
I just thought so because Sin & Punishment somehow made the list...assuming this is a real list that they are considering, anyway. Isn't that a Japan-only game?
Translating formerly Japanese-only games could maintain interest in the service. New fans of actually longtime franchises that are only relatively new in North America like Fire Emblem, (Advance) Wars, Custom Robo, etc. might want to buy other games in the series. (I've always found it hard to get FF VII-and-above fans to play the 2D Final Fantasy games, but maybe they're just graphic whores. I think REAL fans of series would like to be able to play some older games within the franchises they love so much.)
As a big Nintendo fan, I'm probably going to willingly spend money on games I've played multiple times already. Wouldn't it be nice to also find "new" oldies-but-goodies to play?
(I suppose there's more than just language issues, though...I had a Japanese/European version of Ice Climber so until SSBM, I thought it was normal to attack seals in that game instead of the Topi creatures or whatever.)
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Post by: animecyberrat on January 11, 2006, 09:15:18 AM
Ok I was re-rading the article and it DOES say these would be LAUNCH titles so that leads me to beleive tehre would in fact be more ready latter on, which makes more sense because they will need to keep peopel interested in the system for a while and they will still neede time to see if it pays off so they can attract 3rd party companies. AND if we are lucky they will let homebrew developers post games for the service.
Sega has stated many times that it is NOT in their best interest to support the Virtual Console, they have their games available for download on Gametap AND they are re-releasesing many of thier top hits as GBA compilations and some for Xbox live arcade, not to mention the mini Genesis which is out now and they already port most of thier games to PC and even cell phones anyways.
So theres NO WAY they will put games onto teh Revolution Virtual COnsole, besdies all the work they would have to do to get Emulators for Sega Systems to run on it or else they owudl have to reprogram the Sega games to run on SNES hardware which isnt always possible beings how Gensis and SNES had different capabilities.
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Post by: JonLeung on January 11, 2006, 09:18:08 AM
Quote Originally posted by: animecyberrat
So theres NO WAY they will put games onto teh Revolution Virtual COnsole, besdies all the work they would have to do to get Emulators for Sega Systems to run on it or else they owudl have to reprogram the Sega games to run on SNES hardware which isnt always possible beings how Gensis and SNES had different capabilities.
Ummm...I would assume that if they were actually going to emulate Genesis games, they would use a Genesis emulator, not a Super NES emulator. So that's not really a reason.
I seriously doubt there's anything the Genesis can do that a next-gen console can't.
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Post by: Requiem on January 11, 2006, 09:18:57 AM
JonLeung: I wasn't arguing with you. If true, that would be INCREDIBLE!
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Post by: animecyberrat on January 11, 2006, 09:30:24 AM
No becaus eteh Emulators are buildt in, i said in my psot teh would have TO AD a Genesis emulator which Nintendo wont do.
Also read the other reasons i listed its all public information available at segas own website. They are not going to support Virtual Consoel its not in their best intertest.
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Post by: Requiem on January 11, 2006, 12:14:53 PM
How is it not in theit best interest?
They can make more money.....for games....they already made mass amounts of money on.....for basically free....as in, they get a check in the mail for sitting on their ass.....
How is that not in their best interest?
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Post by: IceCold on January 11, 2006, 05:42:16 PM
Maybe the rent option is for a certain period of time - like 2 weeks and you can play whatever you want, but can't keep it..
EDIT: Read Talkback and someone suggested it there..
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Post by: BiLdItUp1 on January 11, 2006, 05:50:18 PM
I don't think they should go all out with the Virtual Console games right off the bat, though there should be a fair selection. We don't need old games competing with Rev games.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2006, 06:05:56 PM
It's not in Sega's best interest cuz it undermines their Sonic Mega Collection bizniss.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on January 12, 2006, 02:50:55 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666 It's not in Sega's best interest cuz it undermines their Sonic Mega Collection bizniss.
I doubt that. I get the feeling they'd sell more by offering downloads on Rev than with their Collections. Plus, there's no production costs. It's just pure profit.
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Post by: Requiem on January 12, 2006, 03:23:21 AM
I think pro was being sarcastic....
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 12, 2006, 03:24:34 AM
But that would mean people are getting everything they're asking for, and that's not compatible with Sega's policy of not using common sense.
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Post by: The Omen on January 12, 2006, 07:39:58 AM
If Sega is to keep up with it's ass backwards business model, they'll give their entire library to the Xbox 360 download service.