Post by: UncleBob on January 02, 2006, 06:18:17 PM
Post by: King of Twitch on January 02, 2006, 06:21:22 PM
Post by: ThePerm on January 02, 2006, 06:22:35 PM
Post by: UncleBob on January 02, 2006, 06:24:50 PM
Post by: wandering on January 02, 2006, 06:44:27 PM
Edit: I'm sure there'll be no problem with M-rated games like Resident Evil 2. The rev does have parental controllers.
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on January 02, 2006, 07:04:58 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
I imangine Nintendo will require all pre-ESRB games to be rated for the download service... I'm assuming....
More likely the ESRB will force them to, though I doubt they'll have to, considering that it's Nintendo we're talking about.
Post by: BlkPaladin on January 02, 2006, 08:44:43 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 03, 2006, 12:04:46 AM
Post by: Ceric on January 03, 2006, 04:32:38 AM
Post by: JonLeung on January 03, 2006, 08:47:53 AM
I'm sure it's the exceptions people are worried about, not the "okay" part but there are so few of them more violent than stomping on baddies that between all those gamers in the gaming industry someone would probably remember to red-flag all those particularly nastier ones first, not that they'd make the assumption of Es all across anyway. And they could always hold off on releasing games until they're fully checked out by the ESRB. Nintendo could even use that as an excuse when in reality they're spacing out the good (re)releases to maintain interest in the system. I don't expect full download availability at launch, that's for sure.
The problem is that games are usually submitted to the ESRB by the developers themselves, don't they? Whether they do or not, SOMEbody's hands are going to be full checking and playing...all...those...retro...games... >_> Hmmm...
Give me some proper ESRB training and I'll take the job! (I may need training because when those baddies throw bottles at me in Bubble Bobble, should I take that as "Reference to alcohol use" or not?)
Post by: KDR_11k on January 03, 2006, 08:39:03 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 04, 2006, 05:00:26 AM
MK 1 would be teen cuz the blood was removed and its just a straight fighting game, MK 2 and beyown were allready rated by ESRB as they were the ones that sparked the thing in the first place. I dont think very many SNES or even NES games woudl get T rating though and very few will get M rated none I can think of for NES but a couple on SNES that came out before the ratings system.
Also what about the games rated K-A nobody ever uses that rating anymore so will those games be re-rated or will it stick?
Also someone already said something about parental controls so I am sure that will come into play.
We can also take SNES and NES to GBA ports to get an idea, whatever the ports are rated the DL should be the same.
Post by: jasonditz on January 04, 2006, 08:23:01 AM
Post by: vudu on January 04, 2006, 08:29:39 AM
QuoteYou are correct about the Genesis code.
Originally posted by: jasonditz
didn't the SNES version of MK have the blood code in it like the Genesis version had? ABACABB if I'm not mistaken
However, there is no blood code for the SNES version.
Post by: JonLeung on January 04, 2006, 08:30:15 AM
Those insecure junior high days when everyone was saying the Super NES version sucked, just because of the lack of blood (and as a consequence, strange-looking or altogether altered Fatalities). *sigh* Not good times, junior high. Everyone trying to be cool and dissing anyone who wasn't trying as hard. And apparently blood = INSTANT LIQUID COOL. Kind of like today's "running over prostitutes in stolen vehicles".
I'm pretty sure the Super NES versions of a lot of games at the time, including Mortal Kombat, looked better when compared to possible Genesis versions. More colours in the Super NES's palette and stuff. But just because there was blood, MK for Genesis = win, apparently.
I'm pretty sure K-A is the equivalent of E. If there were some slightly more intense K-A games, or even E games, they might slap an E10+ on them now.
Post by: UncleBob on January 04, 2006, 03:38:18 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 05, 2006, 07:42:21 PM
I have both systems and have SEVERAL games for both systems and there so similar you really cant tell them a part most times. The best version of Mortal Kombat 1 so far is for Sega CD, have that too
But i did notice MK 1 on SNES had more osudns taht were missing form Genesi version but Genesis version had the original bios and SNES were changed and looked bad. Also Forgot that Genesis version ahs secret characters not in SNES versions. If you cant tell I am HUGE Mortal Kombat fan and try to get every copy of teh game I can get!HEY! speaking of Game Genie, I wonder if Nintendo is going to let you download those for NES/SNEs also, that would rock! except they hated Game Genie though. I was just thinkng of like how the emulators on the net do.
Post by: UncleBob on January 05, 2006, 08:37:53 PM
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on January 05, 2006, 08:50:20 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 05, 2006, 09:16:35 PM
Post by: cubist on January 06, 2006, 04:48:26 AM
Post by: Nephilim on January 06, 2006, 07:40:35 AM
run it on medium and everything is on max, feels smoother
same kinda thing for mk for consoles, snes was more detailed but wasnt as smooth
Post by: animecyberrat on January 06, 2006, 07:05:56 PM
The ONLY levels that BG images were different were the COurtyard and Pit and Goros lair. Courtyard had water falls and mountains on SNES Genesis has sky and clouds. Pit had mountain in BG SNES but was missing form Genesis. Goros lair had all the bones in the correct plaes on SNES where Genesis had just 1 skeloton and some bones were smaller in scale and not as clear to see.
The Jonny Cage fireball was green on SNES and Sub Zero was dark blue like arcades. Genesis versions had all the background music and soudn effects and MOST voices the only voices it was missing were the characters names and FAtatlity and Finish HER, Finsih HIM was said out load but HER was not. The Sega Genesis version had some BG music files remixed to more techno sound than SNES which had more oriental sound.
Genesis version had teh Oroginal FMV seguences form arcade but in stillimages instead of motion, SNES had a green BG with teh characters doing thie finish stance, totaly different. SNES changed the bios and endings to use charcters images form fight select screan,m Genesi had original arcade images.
Also SNES had Reptile but he wasnt programed the same and was harder to get to, Genesis not only ahd Reptile but also teh Green SOny which was NOT in SNES version.
Genesis also had the DULLARD code which allowed many things to be changed, some were cheats others were just fancy options. SNES had NOTHING extra. The only voices it had that Gensesis didnt have weer the characters names at character select and Finish HER and Raidens yekk when he torpedos.
Genesis had ALL the soudn effects except some bone crunching sound and screams for fataloities. SNES was also misisng these same fx and screams as fatalitiew were altered.
Gnesis had the toned down fatailities and teh bloody ones too, which doubled the number of fatalities effectivly adding more content to teh game
BOTH versions ahd different ending form arcade ut Genesis was longer and had more animations than SNES version, which just ahd Shang TSing lsoing his souls and running the credits, GEnesis had Tsung burst into flames and then had each character flip onto and off screan when actors name was called. then goro was displayed and then credits were rolled. Both versions had identical to arcade Specila stages (test your might) and both versions had all the same layout except SNES had options to adjust yoru heath meter and Gensis had Very Easy, Easy, Medium, Hard and very hard and also number of credits, SNES didnt let you adjust credits.
I have over analized EVERY version of these games and if you play teh Genesis version you DO get more content than SNEs version plus you get extras not in teh arcade and you get bsicaly equal graphics.
SNES had some enhanced BG images and tahtw as it. Both versions even had the 2 player battle VS screan which was removed from the Genesis in MK 2.
I will say again I have both versiosn now as did when both were new and GENESIS was the HANDS DOWN better versions, only thing SNES had was a few voices and some Bg images. colors werent that big a dela becaus eonly a hadnfull of colros were even noticably different.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 07, 2006, 02:01:39 AM
Post by: JonLeung on January 07, 2006, 05:11:35 AM
I suppose it's possible for them to go back and put blood in the first MK game but then we might end up having developers going back into their old games and changing things. If they change them for the better, fine, but it'll probably mean more trouble for someone like the ESRB if they feel the changes will change the rating. And things they don't, like editing the Engrish out of Metal Gear ("I FEEL ASLEEP!", "THE TRUCK HAVE STARTED TO MOVE", etc.) might piss off some purists or something.
Post by: darknight06 on January 07, 2006, 09:24:25 AM
Post by: BlkPaladin on January 07, 2006, 01:05:08 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 07, 2006, 05:50:47 PM
Also what if Sega does agree to release thier old games as well, will they keep their old ratings, or just take the old rating and apply it to ESRB, like GA games which was Segas term for E will they change to E by default or will they keep thier old rating and have their own description?
and what about Wolfenstien 3-D, it was edited or censored what ever term you prefer, by Nintendo, will it be released as SNES roms or will they uncensor it and rerate it I wonder, thoughst anyone?
Sorry for um getting off on the MK stuff like that but Mortal Kombat is and will always be my favorite video game series so I defend it to the death. I was always disapointed with ALL 3 console versiosn of the first game anyways so I wont downlaod it for SNES since I have it for SNES and Genesis anyways, but if they have the original Arcade roms for Download, I will snatch that in a heartbeat. Like that Plug N plAy thing that Midway made, I bought taht toto but there were subtle changes form arcade version I just couldnt justify and sold it. I am picky when it comes to Mortal Kombat.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 07, 2006, 08:56:26 PM
Post by: BlkPaladin on January 08, 2006, 01:04:38 AM
*The rating system did start out industry regulated much like the ESRB but the goverment stuck it nose in things and forced some "rules", we did get the PG-13 rating out of it. Before that the rating were decided by the movie's producers and the rating were G, PG, R, X, XXX. Now its G, PG-13, R, NC-17. So what happened was that the old R became PG-13. X which was assigned to violent movies/nudity was changed to R. XXX which was assigned to ultra violent movies, or porn, was re-assigned with the NC-17 which really isn't used by the "industry".
