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Title: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 31, 2005, 08:13:28 AM
Note: I usually buy cross-platform games for my XBox instead in case anything is conspicuously missing. I would like to see other staffers and forum members review their whole collection! Some of these may also be interesting revisions from ratings I have given them on the site.
5- Dragon Drive Animal Crossing UFC Throwdown Zatch Bell
6- Zelda: Ocarina of Time TMNT Metroid Prime PSO Episode I & II
7- Need for Speed Underground 2 Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu Tony Hawk 3 SSX Tricky Godzilla Destroy All Monsters TMNT2 Battle Nexus Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance Warioware INC
8- Pikmin DreamMix TV World Fighters Super Mario Sunshine Zelda: Collector's Edition Beach Spikers Super Monkey Ball Smuggler's Run Warzones Resident Evil 0 Puyo Pop Fever
8.5 lol - Mario Kart Double Dash
9- Viewtiful Joe F-Zero GX Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes Pac-Man Versus Ikaruga Sonic Mega Collection Pac Man Fever Resident Evil Resident Evil 4
10- Naruto 3 Super Smash Bros Melee
Own but have not played enough yet to judge: Naruto 4 Virtua Quest Alien Hominid XMEN Next Dimension PSO Episode III CARD Revolution Tales of Symphonia PN03 Def Jam Vendetta Starfox Adventures Super Bubble Pop Pac Man World 2 Bomberman Generations Wave Race Blue Storm
It turns out that I bought a lot of my games because they were only like 5 dollars and I figured I would play them later but never did
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 31, 2005, 08:24:43 AM
woah, this list is all backwards. I hate you for putting stuff like TMNT or Smuggler's Run above Metroid Prime. I HATE YOU SO MUCH.
Also, Naruto 3 is better than Naruto 4. They sorta fixed the system to unlock stuff by actually rewarding you for being good (as opposed to how long you've played) but it's still really boring. The improvements to the fighting system are pretty good, but now they differentiate between POOFY LOG THING and POOFY LOG JUTSU + ATTACK. Makes me cry.
Title: RE:Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 31, 2005, 08:36:42 AM
I've only played it for one session so far. It looks like they rounded out the player models a little, and I'm glad to see you can replacement-jutsu out of combos in two different ways. We got to playing pretty high level matches in 3 where people could get owned for doing them at all in way too many situations
Oops, I didn't put Eternal Darkness on the list as I loaned it out, I would probably give it like 7.5 or 8. I gave my copy of FF:CC away, I would probably have given it like a 5.
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: ShyGuy on December 31, 2005, 08:38:52 AM
I don't know what to believe in anymore......
Title: RE:Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 31, 2005, 08:53:33 AM
Quote Originally posted by: ShyGuy I don't know what to believe in anymore......
I'M NOT SORRY
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 31, 2005, 09:20:19 AM
MY TURN!
10 Donkey Kong Jungle Beat Metroid Prime Super Smash Brothers Melee Wind Waker
9 Animal Crossing Four Swords Adventures Luigi's Mansion Mario Kart Double Dash Mario Power Tennis Metroid Prime 2 Ocarina of Time Paper Mario Thousand Year Door Resident Evil 4 Resident Evil Remake Skies of Arcadia Soul Calibur II Super Mario Sunshine Tales of Symphonia
8 1080 Avalanche Bomberman Generation F-Zero GX Mario Party 4 Naruto 3 Resident Evil Zero Sonic Mega Collection TimeSplitters 2
7 Donkey Konga Geist StarFox Adventures StarFox Assault WarioWare Inc. Wario World
6 Evolution Worlds Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
(Ty sucks at gaming taste)
Title: RE:Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 31, 2005, 09:31:35 AM
no u
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 31, 2005, 09:33:21 AM
NUH UH U
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Ending Walker Tropic on December 31, 2005, 09:45:02 AM
4 Rogue Squadron II: Who Cares? Baten Kaitos: Eternal Weakness of the Lost Cause Sonic Crap Collection
6 Veiwtiful Joe Wave Race: Blue Storm Crazy Taxi Animal Crossing
8 Ikaruga Metroid Prime Metroid Prime 2 Paper Mario 2 Resident Evil 4 Skies of Arcadia Super Mario Sunshine Super Monkey Ball Super Monkey Ball 2
10 1080° Fistalanche Eternal Awesomness: Sanity's Requim Metal Gear Solid: The Double Fists Pikmin 2 Prince of Persia: Sands of Time Soul Caliber 2 Super Smash Bro.s Melee Tales of Symphonia Wind Waker Zelda Collectors Disk Ocarina of Time
12 Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat
unrated for lack of playtime Killer 7 Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life Donkey Konga Fire Emblem: Path of Ridiculessness
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: King of Twitch on December 31, 2005, 11:20:31 AM
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 2/14/05
This is a game of stealth. Does that really sound like a lot of fun? Taking your time to sneak around slowly in a game? Well I didn't think so at first, but it sorta grew on me. Though it is clearly trumped by the Gamecube port of the original and much better Metal Gear Solid, this game does some things on its own very well.
One is the plot. You begin to investigate the disappearance of two CIA agents and instead unravel some darker secrets that they were killed trying to uncover. I don't want to give it away, but it does seem very plausible in real life at least the parts I can remember. There are a lot of twists along the way, but so much so that along with the long levels, you sometimes forget why you were doing what you were doing until the recaps between levels. Another good thing is the focus on lighting and shadowing which contributes to the stealth aspect. You have a meter to tell you how dark it is where you're standing and in a very dark corner you can hide from enemies who are standing just a few feet from you; retarded, but helpful. Shadows are very realistic and make an uninhabited room seem more tense.
It's also amusing to hear the bad guys argue amongst themselves over cigarettes, or to hear them become completely confused when you shoot a light out and hear, "I don't underSTAND!" "Weird...!" "This is probably BAD" Hearing the Chinese guards say "OH CRAP" never gets old. The accents match the area you are in and the voice-overs are great, but some get played over and over and the lyp-syncing looks like it was made by watching gorillas. You can try it now; look in the mirror and pucker and purse your lips over and over and you get a good idea of what it's like. Hearing the characters think aloud to themselves, along with the information you intercept and read off their computers adds a human element to the enemy; on the other hand, all the guards in an area are clones (UBIsoft is just racist and hates asians).
Which is another high part. This game is all about sneaking, and the tenseness and danger of being suddenly caught by a guard is fun (to me), and even more so when you figure out how to silently dispatch a handful of guards and advance. There are some very tricky, and often unfair situations, however, which force you to play over and over again. Once you overcome this frustration and once you realize your bullets can last a long time, you tend to come out with guns blazing with anger. Though the game is very linear with few alternate paths, you have a few options when it comes to taking out guards; sometimes you can simply shoot them, other times you're not allowed to and must simply sit silently and memorize their patterns to make the perfect move and take them down. Other times you can toss a soda can near them or shoot a light out to completely baffle them and make your move from there, and there are a bunch of gadgets, like a mini camera you can shoot and retrieve. Once you figure out how to use bodies as bait, all rooms with multiple guards become a piece of cake. Once a guard begins the kneeling down to revive a body animation, you can run up on him as loud as you want, and punch him out. Glitches like these show the lack of effort put in to this port. There are some non-lethal weapons you can use as well. It's much more fun and rewarding taking the stealthier route but at least the levels change it up every now and then. Once you master the tricks in this game, you've mastered all of this game's sequels.
A couple of problems are apparent, though. The controls and animation are a little stiff and the camera isn't very helpful sometimes. There is a punch button for example to use in case you're in front of an enemy but instead of being able to punch several times in a row, Sam instead places his hands to his side immediately after punching, patiently waiting for the next round of bullets to hit him; the barrel roll is completely useless. The levels are all separated by short news clips which appear to flip channels repeatedly, just barely allowing you to see how your actions have affected the world, like an ADHD trip. I guess it's artsy. The music, though it sets the mood for tension and plays intensely when an enemy definitely is looking for you, is pretty dull and forgettable. Sound effects get the job done, with approaching footsteps able to be heard, though a sound meter would've been nice; you can hear the whirring of a security camera, chatter on enemy walkie-talkies, or a guard thinking not-so-subtly aloud, "I HEARD something..." which is the main thing you'll need to be listening for.
Control: 6.5 Lots of pretty cool but useless moves, stiff animation makes control frustrating
Graphics: 7.9 Amazing pixilation from the Xbox left over, but the lighting is great if you can overlook that
Sound: 7.5 Nothing spectacular or memorable, though the voice acting is very good
Gameplay: 7.5 Some sweet cat-and-mouse situations and pretty good weapons and gadgets make for good times. Replaying sections over and over and having to hide bodies is still annoying.
Lastability: 6.5 Depending on whether you REALLY like stealth you might try to run through again on hard; there are a couple extras
Overall: 7.5 There are few things this game does great or different, but there are some great moments and a good plot. Fun but occasionally tedious
It's probably available for cheap now so get it if you CRAVE stealth games and already have Metal Gear Solid and already have every good game from the past 4 years
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: ShyGuy on December 31, 2005, 11:22:07 AM
3 F-zeroGx Yeah that's right!
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: stevey on December 31, 2005, 11:47:58 AM
1=bad 10=best
20:
Luigi's Mansion
15:
Four Swords Adventures Wind Waker Zelda Collectors Disk Ocarina of Time MQ Animal Crossing Metroid Prime Metroid Prime 2 Mario Kart Double Dash Paper Mario 2 Super Mario Sunshine Pikmin Pikmin 2 SSB Melee Sonic Mega Collection Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
10:
Donkey Konga Mega Man Anniversary Collection Custom Robo
5: Mario Party 4 (too many party) Soul Caliber 2 (because 3 not on the cube) Sonic Heroes
have but don't have time to play:
Tales of Symphonia Super Mario Strikers Battalion Wars
I know, I miss some stuff
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Mario on December 31, 2005, 08:29:03 PM
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 31, 2005, 08:51:35 PM
10 F-Zero GX
9 Sonic Mega Collection 1080 Resident Evil 4 Paper Mario 2 Skies of Arcadia Super Smash Bros. Melee Worms 3D Zelda Wind Waker
8 Billy Hatcher Bloody Roar Donkey Kong Jungle Beat Tales of Symphonia Sonic Gems Collection Star Fox Assault
7 Animal Crossing Bomberman Generations Luigi's Mansion Pokemon Channel (yes, YES! WALT DISNEY MUST FEAST) Second Sight Sonic Adventure DX Star Fox Adventures Wario World
6 Super Mario Sunshine Viewtiful Joe Harvest Moon Metroid Prime 2 Mortal Kombat: DA Wave Race Blue Storm P.N. 0.3
5 Soul Calibur 2 Zelda Four Swords
4 Metroid Prime Rayman 3
3 Sonic Adventure 2
2 Wario Ware Star Wars Rogue Leader Mario Kart Double Dash
1 Sonic Heroes
Unrated stuff, laffo Freeloader Game Boy Player Pikmin 2 Final Fantasy Crystal Cronicles
I think that's everything, and most of is probably different from my IGN ratings, because my opinion is forever changing, like UNDIES.
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: PIAC on December 31, 2005, 11:31:52 PM
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1 All gamecube games. What a failure console.
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 31, 2005, 11:39:55 PM
Nintendo GameCube more like Nintendo Dreamcast.
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Deguello on December 31, 2005, 11:56:02 PM
I tend to be lenient on any serious attempt at a video game in reviews. I have psychologically tricked myself into enjoying even the most dubious effort because all I strive to review is obvious filth. After slogging through a hellish licensed game about Charlie's Angels or whatever, I find any amount of quality refreshing even if I have to dig for it. So every game I own is IMO great, and that includes various Mario Partys and other things scorned by other reviewers. It helps that I get some of them free after I trade in the reviewed filth. I make it a point to try not to review games I go in liking, or else I'd give everything a 10. That is not to say that I prejudge the crappy games I volunteer for and sometimes find a good game underneath that I tend to overrate because I'm a nice guy. However, I find most games like Trollz and Punch King to be awful, and rest assured if I hate it, it is reprehensible to the utmost.
So yeah, I really don't like giving scores to things. "They are all perfect" and all that Last Samurai nonsense.
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Plugabugz on January 01, 2006, 11:55:09 AM
Why hasn't anybody included The Scorpion King?
I absolutely love that PGC review, the reviewer needs to show his/her presence.
Title: RE:Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: couchmonkey on January 04, 2006, 09:51:42 AM
Oh wow, this is like a dream! Usually I take reviews seriously and I want to reflect the quality of the product, etc. etc. blah blah, but here is what I REALLY think of my games (minus the ones I haven't played that much, plus the ones I haven't played that much but are hilarious to admit I own)
3 - Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
5 - Carmen Sandiego: Secret of the Stolen Drums RS2: Rogue Leader
6 - 007: Everything or Nothing WWE: Day of Reckoning (Create a Wrestler worth 8-9, actual game worth 4)
8 - Donkey Konga Future Tactics Luigi's Mansion Mario Kart: Double Dash Mario Party 5 Simpsons Road Rage The Sims Skies of Arcadia Super Monkey Ball 2 Tales of Symphonia Viewtiful Joe
9 - Beyond Good and Evil Cubivore Eternal Darkness Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Paper Mario: TTYD Simpsons Hit and Run SSX 3 Super Mario Sunshine
10 - Burnout 2: Point of Impact Donkey Kong Jungle Beat Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker Pikmin Pikmin 2 Super Smash Bros Melee
Edit: promoted Animal Crossing to 7 after thinking about how much love it's given me.
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 04, 2006, 02:38:59 PM
I'd post but I don't want to embarrass myself with my ridiculously small and mediocre game collection.
EDIT: ...on a 1-10 scale, out of all games, Stevey give's Lugi's Mansion a 20.
...
FTW
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 04, 2006, 02:44:17 PM
" I'd post but I don't want to embarrass myself with my ridiculously small and mediocre game collection."
You could own the entire GameCube library and still end up with that
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: couchmonkey on January 05, 2006, 06:27:40 AM
I wouldn't mock anyone for their small game collection. My gigantor collection just means I have no life.
Title: RE:Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Plugabugz on January 06, 2006, 09:51:59 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Plugabugz Why hasn't anybody included The Scorpion King?
I absolutely love that PGC review, the reviewer needs to show his/her presence.
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: stevey on January 06, 2006, 10:34:55 AM
"EDIT: ...on a 1-10 scale, out of all games, Stevey give's Lugi's Mansion a 20.
...
FTW "
Yeah, so what you problem? It's great!
Title: RE:Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Baltron87 on January 06, 2006, 11:58:19 AM
from my many months of lurking around here I've decided that maybe stevey was dropped on his a little too often as a baby (I can't say much, though, I almost drowned in a bucket of water on more than one occasion) but i have to agree with him here, luigi's mansion is a lot of fun... i beat 15 times, no exageration... still no damn rank S mansion but that's because i suck.
EDIT
I should probably make a list to keep it on topic, eh?
1 sonic heroes big mutha truckers (yeah... i have it)
7 phantasy star online tales of phantasia
8 super monkey ball serious sam: the next encounter cubivore f zero GX
9 wind waker
10 smash bros. animal crossing
lack of play harvest moon something or other
I actually have a lot more games than that, but i can't think of them right now.
Title: RE: Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: Mario on January 08, 2006, 07:34:28 PM
Luigi's Mansion is awesome, i'm with stevey.
Title: RE:Entire GC collection reviewed (sort of)
Post by: King of Twitch on January 17, 2006, 10:34:46 PM
Rogue Squadron 2 8.5 Why can't Lucasarts make explosions look better than a puff of smoke? Super Smash Bros 9.5 Pikmin 8.9 Mario Sunshine 8.9 Bring back platforming please. A whole level wasted inside a building.. Metroid Prime 9.9 Did they have to knock off OOT? 007: Nightfire 8.0 All my nongamer friends want to play this instead of TS2. Hm.. Zelda: Wind Waker 9.5 Looks worse than Lttp most of the time FU-Zero 8.8 worthless music, 1000 KPH hover crafts sound like the woosh of a door being slammed shut. Good tracks and options tho Tony Hawk UnderGround 8.5 very daring for NevermakeanythingotherthanTonyHawkSoft. Timesplitters 2 9.0 tons of good stuff... like shooting monkeys flying over a spanish mission with a shotgun Sega Football Something or Other 2003 7.5 Belongs on the N64, the grass is only bumpmapped on the bottom inch of the screen Animal Crossing 9.0 will never get old; looks like Mr Rodgers Neighborhood though WELLL HELLO THERE KING FRIDAY. Mario Golf 8.8 tons of good stuff; golf frustrates me more than almost any other game, including F-Zero. Is it so hard to make decent golfing music? It sounds like someone with ADD pounding their nuts off on a keyboard, same for F-Zero. Splinter Cell 7.5 looks like a mid-90s game. Nice port job. Pikmin 2 9.5 MAKE THEM STOP SINGING
Most of those are worth the money, football I got at Blockbuster for $10, and that's about as much as it's worth, Pikmin 1 not worth 50 but I had to have it when it came out.
Biggest disappointments: Mario Sunshine, Wave Race, SFA, Splinter Cell 2, Rogue Squadron 3, Sonic Adventure 2 [sequels... what a shocker]