Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on December 20, 2005, 12:35:06 PM
Clicky
Post by: Kairon on December 20, 2005, 02:33:20 PM
*ahem*
"... THE INDUSTRY IS SHRINKING! THE INDUSTRY IS SHRINKING!"
...thank you.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 20, 2005, 02:40:15 PM
Post by: nickmitch on December 20, 2005, 02:40:29 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on December 20, 2005, 07:24:46 PM
"It's almost as if Nintendo knows what it's talking about, but that can't be."
I wouldn't compare EA's situation to Nintendo because the two companies are too different. EA's very business model is fragile. They make mainstream pandering junk that's completely disposable. NO ONE has any passion over EA games. You play the game for a year and then replace it with a sequel. EA in reality has no fans and no classic games. They rely on fads on trends. Once casual gamers get bored of them they're screwed.
Nintendo however has an actually fanbase and makes classics that stand the test of time. It's much harder for their customers to get bored of them and thus they have more of a safety net than EA. Nintendo doesn't pander to fads. They have a real fanbase and a real legacy. If the industry shrinks EA is screwed. Nintendo isn't because the "real" gamers that would stick with gaming after the mainstream lost interest buy their product.
Nintendo might be right about the industry shrinking but they're jumping the gun in thinking that they have to massively overhaul their whole approach and target non-gamers in order to survive that. Hardcore gamers are who will stick with gaming through good times and bad. Nintendo is fine as long as hardcore gamers still buy their stuff.
Post by: KDR_11k on December 20, 2005, 07:47:38 PM
Except for Battlefield 2.
Nintendo brought in a new demograhic with the NES, Sony another one with the PS. Now it's time for bringing in another demographic but only Nintendo is trying that. You could say that Sony's success was an accident.
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 21, 2005, 04:50:45 AM
SSX is really their big money maker for non-sports fans, but with each version of the game, I am sure it is getting stale. (Though that doesn't stop Tony Hawk from still selling.)
EA may create barely above average games, but the licenses they have to create popular characters and franchises will win the day for them...unfortunately.
Post by: ThePerm on December 21, 2005, 07:26:46 AM
Though its been so long since i'v bough one that buying a new one is worth it.
Post by: couchmonkey on December 22, 2005, 05:45:09 AM
I'm not a fan of EA, but now that it's not in "buy out the industry" mode, I'm not as annoyed and I feel like defending it a little. It also has a decent standard of quality, unlike THQ or Acclaim. EA trash is just forgettable, not completely broken (usually). I've heard their employees had problems in the past, but that also seems to be done with, and overworked employees seem to be the industry standard, from what I've heard.
EA needs a lot of work, but it's not the worst developer around.
Post by: Amodaus1 on December 22, 2005, 05:57:19 AM
But personally I only like what Dice can produce (Battle field 2, greatest FPS out now and only second to perfect dark)
and yes, they should die for killing westwood
Post by: Kairon on December 22, 2005, 06:03:58 AM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: IceCold on December 22, 2005, 03:39:07 PM
Post by: Talon on December 28, 2005, 02:21:28 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 28, 2005, 12:03:03 PM
And they should of put some EA characters in Marvel Nemesis to make it cooler such as Baseball Guy,Football Guy, Golf Guy, a generic james bond clone and lets all not forget the most Uber of them all...... CAR!!!
Post by: jasonditz on December 28, 2005, 01:39:11 PM
I'd love to see EA do what Carl Icahn is pushing for at Time Warner right now, spin off the different components into seperate companies.
Post by: Requiem on December 28, 2005, 02:18:47 PM
Post by: Segnit BGS on December 28, 2005, 03:51:14 PM
Post by: IceCold on December 28, 2005, 08:47:14 PM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on December 29, 2005, 10:10:07 AM
Post by: Grant10k on January 04, 2006, 05:48:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
Serves them right! I'll nevcer forgive them for closing Westwood Studios...
THEY closed Westwood Studios!?!?!?! GAH, I was still wating for Tiberian Twilight, (I think that's what they were going to call it). They can go rot. Even Battlefield 2 has a ton of piss poor programing glitches. (honesty, how does the mouse lag? and text input lag? these things shouldn't be an issue)
Post by: KDR_11k on January 04, 2006, 08:36:20 AM
EA dissolved Westwood. I agree, it sucks that they took away the original C&C setting but at least the gameplay was mostly intact in Generals.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 04, 2006, 02:30:42 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 04, 2006, 08:17:43 PM
Post by: iMoron on January 06, 2006, 06:22:54 PM
Post by: IceCold on January 06, 2006, 07:33:54 PM
Post by: iMoron on January 07, 2006, 10:32:41 AM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Nope
Thats why I hate them...
Burnout sold well on the cube... and they desided, since they are total retards, not to realease it for the cube...
If they keep on realeasing so many sequels at the rate they realease them (every 6 month)... they will inundate the market with crapware... oh, wate, thats whats hapenig already....
the worst thing of it is that the few good game get ignored under the pletoa of "so, so" games...
EA... go to hell...
Post by: Amodaus1 on January 07, 2006, 12:48:48 PM
they made it similar to warcraft/ starcraft / age of empires, they eliminated the left hand task bar for unit and building production which is what made it unique, that and missles (projectiles) fired in red alert were never guarenteed hits like in WC SC and AoE, you could move out of the way to reduce dmg, although i can't remember if they are in generals
either way red alert was westwoods greatest hit and in my opinion none of their other games were as good, in fact i perfer red alert over any other strategic type game (unless you categorize pikmin under there)
i also here EA is releasing a Comand and Conquer compilation pack
Post by: KDR_11k on January 07, 2006, 09:40:07 PM
The sidebar was a relic, a piece of gameplay that was only introduced because they didn't know any better. It prevented you from building two units at once and made it impossible to maintain two bases at the same time. There are games that implemented sidebars without the drawbacks involved but C&C wasn't one of them and in that case I prefer the Warcraft style of production.
I was quite young when I still played Red Alert and I'm not sure I ever grasped the basic strategies of the game before moving on but overall I'd say that Total Annihilation beats C&C. Perimeter and Earth (even 2160) were superior to (pre-Generals) C&C as well IMO.
Post by: Amodaus1 on January 08, 2006, 04:19:59 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 08, 2006, 05:10:00 AM
