Post by: Robageejammin on November 16, 2005, 10:41:19 PM
Server: Durotan
Alliance: Drachma, Kamek
Horde: Axelum
Post by: KDR_11k on November 17, 2005, 02:15:41 AM
Post by: Kairon on November 17, 2005, 04:11:46 AM
Sallow
Lvl60 Warlock
Shadowsong (PvE)
*ahem* Now for the requisite shoutouts.
OMG NUB LERN TO PLAY KEKEKE
...oh and... nerf pally bubbles!
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Shecky on November 17, 2005, 04:41:47 PM
I stopped after getting no where day after day.... I'm still bitter about the cookie incident...
Cookie incident:
long story short
1) Blizzard has a holiday quest to make holiday cookies which require eggs.
2) I know from playing a tauren that said eggs can be found outside of their major city
3) I take my primary troll and *walk* to said major city from the orc major city. This takes a lot of time.
4) I gather said eggs
5) I fly back to the main city only to find that the special quest givers are gone.
The game is engineered to waste your time... I believe a lot of people know this but have a hard time stopping and cutting their losses
Post by: Robageejammin on November 17, 2005, 06:09:50 PM
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The game is engineered to waste your time... I believe a lot of people know this but have a hard time stopping and cutting their losses
In that case you can probably say that about any game ever. Having fun doesnt make it a waste of time
But yea, bad luck with that holiday quest fiasco. Very strange.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2005, 02:47:35 AM
Post by: Kairon on November 18, 2005, 05:18:01 AM
Besides, MMORPGs also need to inherently build a community. Players need to be in the game in the long term so that they can actually start to form social connections with each other. A wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am game experience where players join and leave the community would be absolutely horrific for an MMORPG, it would be a complete waste of the massively online capability, and would be more akin to player-matching than to persistantly-online social communities.
And of course, if all WoW was was another MMORPG, I probably wouldn't be playing it. I've wanted to play an MMORPG since I read abouyt Sierra's The Realm in 1997, but I just haven't...because there was something missing. And WoW has that something: Blizzards amazing job with art design and lore. In a way, that makes me a real Blizzard fanboy. Part of the reason I'm playing WoW 3-7 hours every week is because I enjoy Blizzards actual work in those areas.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2005, 08:27:30 AM
Sure, the players need to stay in an MMO to create a social world but unfortunately they're doing it by the wrong means. An RPG should NEVER be a race to the finish "look ma I got level 60", then it's not a ROLE PLAYING game. But the userbase for MMOs seems to consist of a lot of people who think you have to "finish" the game by reaching the max level, getting all the "phat loot" and the other players are only people you have to compete with for that loot.
Of course a race to the finish-style game will be hard to keep fun all the time. That's why games like that tend to last maybe twenty hours offline. And the severe difference between a high level and a low level character makes for a lot of rushing in these games. What about a game where you have maybe nine levels to get that give you new tactics and abilities but don't make you some invincible killing machine? I think most cyberpunk (or generally futuristic) RPGs are pretty close to that idea, a bullet to the head will kill even a veteran.
Games like Guild Wars tend to do pretty well despite a very short levelling process by introducing much more player interaction (grouping in every instance, PvP missions, etc). And the hardcore will stay long after they've hit maximum level because they feel they have a function in the world. Be a famous blacksmith, member of a guild of assassins, king, whatever. Those who have a social environment they feel happy in will stay no matter how long it took to reach maximum level and get all the 1337 gear.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 18, 2005, 04:04:31 PM
Can't wait for Imperator to be finished* by Mythic.
*Yes, yes, Gamespy and everyone else made it seem like Imperator was canned, it wasn't. The Devs have said its been postponed so they can work on other things for a while.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2005, 09:06:16 PM
Forum Post
SyaPed: Was it completely canned? I thought it was just put on the backburner or something so they could concentrate on Warhammer...?
Arshlevon: believe me, and everyone else who worked on it.. cancelling it was the BEST thing they could of done..
Matabus: A-goddamn-men.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 19, 2005, 02:17:50 AM
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We try never to say never around here. The assets we developed aren't going anywhere, and we still think the concept and the story have a lot of potential. We had great feedback at E3 from those who actually did a little play testing. For those reasons and more, we won't say cancelled - but we wanted to be very honest with fans in the press release, and make it clear that we weren't actively pursuing development for the time being
So, who's right? The artist or the PR person? I would be able to point out numerous posts the devs made on the VoxPlebis forum, but the site's been taken down.
Post by: Uglydot on November 20, 2005, 06:35:55 AM
Horde: I forget now..heh...
Post by: theRPGFreak on November 20, 2005, 10:23:15 AM
Post by: nemo_83 on November 20, 2005, 11:02:11 AM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on November 20, 2005, 07:04:17 PM
Post by: Toruresu on April 27, 2006, 12:02:29 PM
Server: Kirin Tor
Name: Morious
lv 30 Mage
pst me if you see me : )
Post by: MysticGohan on April 27, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 25, 2006, 09:44:08 PM
Edit: if you do not roll horde on a pvp server, chances are you are a child
http://ganked.ytmnd.com/
Post by: KDR_11k on May 25, 2006, 11:54:51 PM
Post by: vudu on May 26, 2006, 09:16:38 AM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 26, 2006, 01:10:59 PM
And yeah, I think horde is the minority on this server, and pretty much every server @_@
Post by: KDR_11k on May 26, 2006, 11:00:16 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 28, 2006, 10:13:19 PM
nubs
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 29, 2006, 09:38:15 PM
Quit the game because PvE servers were boring, then they opened transfers to a PvP server because no one would leave...only to find that PvP servers are just as boring because PvP mostly happens in the BGs anyway.
But Dalv is a horde-heavy server. The alliance has more 60s right now, but the horde has a 58% lead on levels 10-60 which means that those who will fill out the ranks of the BGs are on their way.
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Gank = player kill
Specifically, a "gank" is a player killing another player who has no chance in hell of winning or fighting back.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 30, 2006, 03:02:20 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on May 30, 2006, 07:33:14 AM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 30, 2006, 05:22:32 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 31, 2006, 07:22:32 AM
Truth is, I'm only playing WoW until Nintendo gets off their ass and releases something better to occupy my spare time.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 31, 2006, 10:26:04 AM
Post by: Kairon on May 31, 2006, 10:53:31 AM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
ex-Blizzard Fanboi
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 01, 2006, 09:02:08 AM
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I hear Maple Story is coming out for DS
I was actually thinking about Star Trek online or Warhammer, or swearing off MMOs until someone does something new with the genre.
I'm waiting for someone to do something new and different with the concept, as the "grind for better items so you can grind for better items" paradigm has been around for far too damn long.
Post by: nemo_83 on June 01, 2006, 08:10:16 PM
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I do Nemo, and TFT and have WoW, Server: Firetree, Paladin, lv.60
is it possible to play with custom maps over the net? want to set up a match some time? PM me.
Post by: wandering on June 01, 2006, 10:54:34 PM
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I'm waiting for someone to do something new and different with the concept, as the "grind for better items so you can grind for better items" paradigm has been around for far too damn long.
*cough*
Post by: KDR_11k on June 02, 2006, 02:46:34 AM
Post by: mantidor on June 03, 2006, 07:38:33 PM
Post by: Kairon on June 03, 2006, 08:19:53 PM
I just haven't had the time to check it out, but this is could be the next MMORPG in my life.
Oh, did I mention it's cel-shaded?
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 05, 2006, 09:04:40 AM
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*cough*
This will definitely be my next MMO if it does indeed make a comeback.
EDIT: Actually, my friend who was in the beta just informed me that the game was mostly just a big chatroom since all the puzzles had long since been solved. I need a game with some new gameplay concepts to get me back into MMOs again.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 06, 2006, 01:11:40 AM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on June 14, 2006, 08:45:44 PM
Post by: wandering on June 14, 2006, 11:54:03 PM
Quote.
This will definitely be my next MMO if it does indeed make a comeback.
EDIT: Actually, my friend who was in the beta just informed me that the game was mostly just a big chatroom since all the puzzles had long since been solved. I need a game with some new gameplay concepts to get me back into MMOs again.
I'm more interested in the plot/role-playing/environments than the puzzles, personally...
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on June 15, 2006, 04:00:14 AM
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Yerz got to make yer mark summhow. See as a Goblin, yer'll get killed an 'et by Orcs or even other Goblinz if theyz not scared of yer or if yer not useful to 'em. I wozn't all dat big but when an Orc tried to pull me arm off I made 'is 'ead explode. Then dey woz a bit scared of me, an' they knew I'd be useful too.
Orc-speek FTW!
Post by: KDR_11k on June 15, 2006, 04:48:52 AM
Orks generally tend to distinguish between Gork and Mork as one being mean, and the other being meaner. Some divisions lie in determining who is meaner; another factor preventing Orks from being united.
Wiki (yes, that's the 40k article, the wording in the fantasy one isn't as funny)
EDIT: Come to think of it, why can't Orks use their 40k technology in WH if that stuff was programmed into their genes millions of years ago? Or is that just a low-tech settlement on the planet?
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on June 15, 2006, 05:00:23 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 15, 2006, 09:02:09 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 15, 2006, 11:08:35 AM
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I'm thinking about getting into a MMORPG, but I'm not sure which one. I don't really like Blizzard for reasons I explained in another thread. Right now it will probably be Warhammer: Age of Reckoning (WAAAGH!). Warhammer Orcs rock.
Don't play WoW.
It's a fun leveling treadmill, but one of the reasons leveling is fun is because you think you're building a character which will be useful and powerful later on.
Then, once you reach the level cap, you learn that anything worth doing requires an army of 40 people to do and that you are worthless on your own.
Needless to say, it sucks.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on June 15, 2006, 02:34:57 PM
Smash_Brother: Yeah, I heard the game really dies after you reach 60. And if you try to PvP, there's almost no one playing in the open world, and the battlegrounds are full of people loaded with the absolout best equipment. Warhammer: Age of Reckoning is looking to be a lot better, with city sieges and such.
Gah! I can't wait for the beta! I wantz ta shmash me some stunties*!!!
*Ork slang for Dawrf. Also, Orks and Dwarves are not the only races. Humans (Empire and those corrupted by Chaos), Goblins (or Gobbos as they're more commonly known) Dark Elves and High Elves will all be playable races.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on June 16, 2006, 01:16:54 AM
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Don't play WoW.
It's a fun leveling treadmill, but one of the reasons leveling is fun is because you think you're building a character which will be useful and powerful later on.
Then, once you reach the level cap, you learn that anything worth doing requires an army of 40 people to do and that you are worthless on your own.
Needless to say, it sucks.
pvp
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on June 16, 2006, 01:24:13 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 16, 2006, 02:45:29 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on June 16, 2006, 05:05:17 AM
Post by: Kairon on June 16, 2006, 06:43:53 AM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 16, 2006, 06:46:24 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 16, 2006, 09:29:46 AM
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I've followed someone on their grind to grand marshal. It's fun for a while, but all it takes is one week in which you don't PvP and your rank will slip. That, and you need to be in basically every battleground which starts up if you intend to advance in rank.
The other problem with WoW is that nothing matters, even temporarily. I like the idea of sieging cities because that will at least offer something in the way of having an actual effect on the world around you. In WoW, I can kill 5,000,000 enemy players and it's meaningless if I don't do it again the next week and all of those players are still up and about.
Kill all the NPCs in a town and they'll be back again like it never happened in 5 minutes. Kill an enemy leader, same thing. When the entire world will never change no matter how much you attempt to influence it, it's no better than a virtual amusement park: fun for a while, but you'll quickly realize how shallow it is.
And when you're gone, it'll be like you were never there at all.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on June 16, 2006, 12:39:25 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 16, 2006, 02:38:55 PM
Don't get me wrong: I love world PvP, but even on a PvP server, 90% of the PvP happens in battlegrounds, and usually against epic geared teams. The little world PvP I did participate in was always insanely fun, but since it only happens once in a blue moon, it ain't worth $15 a month for a game I enjoy playing maybe once a week.
