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Title: Arrested Development No More`
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 12, 2005, 06:31:28 AM
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/va/20051111/113172195800.html

Of course no one really cares about that other show.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 12, 2005, 06:34:05 AM
Yeah, I heard yesterday.
I'm hoping HBO or someone will pick it up.  It's really such a great show, it shouldn't be passed up.
Damn Fox.
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Post by: Bloodworth on November 12, 2005, 06:45:31 AM
From one of my friends:

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Arrested Development is quite possibly the funniest show on Television. If you have never seen it I recommend that you go out and buy season one and two on DVD.

I found a phone number for EVERYONE TO CALL!

800-369-6848
Hit the number 2 then dial "Liguori" followed by #.

When you leave a message, be nice, and tell Fox how much you love the show. Please post this on all of your blog sites. We need to save this show. Viewers have saved this show before by taking this kind of action, so there is hope.

Also write in to askfox@foxinc.com with the subject header SAVE ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT. I am going write an email from every one of my email addresses.

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Post by: Renny on November 12, 2005, 07:38:16 AM
I'm sure an online comic book can save it!
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Post by: ThePerm on November 12, 2005, 07:41:03 AM
yep fox likes to kill shows that people like...
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Post by: Artimus on November 12, 2005, 08:57:09 AM
I'm as sad as anyone over this, but you cannot blame Fox. The show has gone down since Season 1 and it had bad ratings back then. They've tried everything to get people to watch, but no one is. This is the fault of Fox, it's the fault of television viewers.
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Post by: nickmitch on November 12, 2005, 03:26:14 PM
Thank Jeebus 7th Hevean is dead!!!!!!
I hated that show. It was like that rash that never goes away no matter how much ointment you put on.
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Post by: IceCold on November 12, 2005, 09:29:40 PM
Oh, damn. This just killed my day. Hopefully another network picks it up... I don't have HBO and I won't get it even if AD goes there. And if it does go there, the DVD sets will be A LOT more expensive, so either way it's bad.

It was almost inevitable, but after the deal got sorted it out before this season, I thought it would be around for a while still.

I guess bad things really do happen to good people.  
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Post by: odifiend on November 12, 2005, 10:07:13 PM
Fox seems to always do this...  Anytime a show is moved it seldom does as well.  Dark Angel, Titus, Boston Public, etc... etc.. etc...
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Post by: PaLaDiN on November 12, 2005, 10:27:30 PM
Oh God look at us, we're like a couple of girls on the last day of camp...  
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Post by: stevey on November 13, 2005, 06:52:50 AM
hopeful this is so they can bring back futurama
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 13, 2005, 08:42:05 AM
That actually wouldn't be that bad of a trade off...

If it were really going to happen.
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Post by: PaLaDiN on November 13, 2005, 08:58:38 AM
Coming from anybody but you two, what you said would actually be offensive. I rest easy in the knowledge that people who don't like AD do in fact tend to be like stevey.
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Post by: stevey on November 13, 2005, 09:22:05 AM
I like Arrested Development, I just love futurama more. cock-a cock-a cock-a cock  
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 13, 2005, 10:35:20 AM
I love them both equally, which is why I say that one or the other, it doesn't matter much to me.

LOST
Title: RE:Arrested Development No More`
Post by: nickmitch on November 13, 2005, 12:11:55 PM
Futurama>Arrested Development
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 13, 2005, 01:05:13 PM
Arrested Development > Futurama.

Futurama is just another slew of old Simpsons jokes in a new setting.
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on November 13, 2005, 01:22:31 PM
There is a slight chance of the show still making it.  From what I read Fox, (so far all they are doing)  isn't ordering a full season.  Season 2 wasn't a full season either.  Season 1 = 22 episodes, Season 2 = 18 episodes.  I know I am being optimistic, but I can always hope.
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Post by: IceCold on November 13, 2005, 01:54:48 PM
Yeah, before this I had heard that it was being cut down to 13 eps.. but the writing's on the wall.
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Post by: couchmonkey on November 14, 2005, 05:24:30 AM
Boo.

Futurama was good, but now that it's come to an end, I kind of want it to stay that way.  I thought they finished it up nicely before it could wear out its welcome.  Arrested Development, I think it could have a good few seasons ahead of it without losing its touch.
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on November 21, 2005, 01:48:35 PM
The problem with Arrested Development was it was too intelligent and quirky for the viewing public, people want more survivors and CSI's, not intelligent and quirky.

As for Futurama if they were going to ressurect it I'd rather they put it on Cartoon Network's Adult swim, rather than Fox.
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Post by: Renny on November 21, 2005, 02:13:43 PM
The problem is Fox has a bad habit of killing good shows. They've been pissing me off since Brisco. AD is great but I've only seen a few episodes. I generally don't watch TV much at all though. Eh. Damn Fox.
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Post by: couchmonkey on November 22, 2005, 06:31:26 AM
Fox is just doing what any network would do.  Lots of critically acclaimed shows like My So Called Life and Joan of Arcadia get canned because they don't have enough viewers.  It sucks.  What really bugs me is how Fox moved the show to Mondays and then pre-empted it with sports for several weeks in October.  Oh gee, why doesn't anyone watch it?
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Post by: nickmitch on November 22, 2005, 04:10:16 PM
They did the same thing with Andy Richter controls the universe.
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Post by: BiLdItUp1 on November 26, 2005, 09:09:16 PM
Yep its the usual Fox hatchet-job act - once a program breaches a certain threshold, it is left to rot on some less than stellar timeslot. To be fair, the ratings were never good...but who needs to be fair? This is Fox we're talking about.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 28, 2005, 07:15:56 PM
Oh God, Brisco was such a great show.  My friend introduced it to me just this past summer, he got it on pirated DVD, the show is brilliant.  I love it.
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Post by: BiLdItUp1 on December 03, 2005, 03:08:00 PM
I find it sad, also, that this is the same network that's promoting tripe like Stacked..might as well watch porn; nobody out there is tuning in for the antics of Doc Brown.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 05, 2005, 03:10:27 PM
In regards to tonight's episode: Holy crap.
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Post by: PaLaDiN on December 05, 2005, 06:54:18 PM
Yeah, wow, I loved this ep.

Also, best "on the next" ever.
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Post by: couchmonkey on December 06, 2005, 06:15:04 AM
I liked the part where someone commented that having sex with a mentally disabled person is wrong, and the narrator agreed out of nowhere, like he was having a conversation.

And when Super Dave got fired...awesome!
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2005, 07:52:54 AM
Arressted Development to get picked up elswere?
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ABC and Showtime Pursuing Arrested?
Source: Variety
December 14, 2005


Fox still hasn't officially canceled Arrested Development, but if it does, other networks are interested in the show, reports Variety.

Both ABC and Showtime have had conversations with 20th Century Fox TV and indicated they're open to making a deal for new episodes of the critically beloved, Emmy-winning comedy from creator Mitch Hurwitz. No formal negotiations have taken place, and there are still numerous hurdles that might prevent such a move -- including the show's hefty pricetag.

Deal w/ Showtime?
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Word around town this week is that Showtime is in talks with "Arrested Development" producers 20th Century Fox TV and Imagine TV about picking up the comedy from creator/executive producer Mitch Hurwitz says The Hollywood Reporter.


I am personally hoping more for NBC cause ABC sux and I don't wanna pay $15-20 a mo. for Showtime just to watch the show.  
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Post by: vudu on December 14, 2005, 08:16:42 AM
You could just download the episodes.  Or wait for the DVD.
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Post by: Artimus on December 14, 2005, 10:53:59 AM
How does ABC suck? They have far better shows...Though no real comedies.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2005, 01:15:23 PM
what comes on ABC? I can't remember the last time I have actually watched a show on that channel.

especially not a show that would compliment AD enough to draw in a new crowd that would watch AD if only because it came on before/after their favorite show.

But if I'm wrong, please let me know.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 14, 2005, 01:26:56 PM
It'd be great if Showtime picked it up.  It hosts the kind of audience that would watch it and appreciate it, and while I wouldn't be able to watch it on a weekly basis (except maybe downloading), I could buy the DVDs.  All I want is to make sure they keep making it.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 20, 2005, 08:34:24 AM
your gonna need some of this

It is rumored that an annoucement is to take place sometime this week that ABC picked up a 13 episode run of AD.

I don't know if its true, but  

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Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 20, 2005, 10:50:22 AM
If ABC picks it up, great.  If Showtimes picks it up, I'll just have to get Showtime.  

Also, last night's episode, did anyone else,  beside me, notice that early in the episode the dialogue didn't match the people's lips.  I usually don't watch lips on the show but last night I did and saw that the lips were still moving but the dialogue had stopped?
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 22, 2005, 08:43:06 AM
I didn't notice.  I think it might be that you've gone insane, nitsu.  Again.

Yeah, Showtime...I hope they don't pick it up, simply because I don't have it and I'm sorry but AD isn't worth 20 dollars a month.  Great news if ABC picks it up.
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 23, 2005, 05:48:40 AM
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Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
I didn't notice.  I think it might be that you've gone insane, nitsu.  Again.



I go insane a lot.  But it doesn't seem insane to me!

stop looking at me, all you people are the crazy ones, not me
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Post by: wandering on January 02, 2006, 07:00:04 PM
Sorry to bump this - but you guys'll be happy to know that, just because of you guys, I sat down and watched an episode of the show. And then I went out and rented a dvd of the first few episodes. And then I went out and bought the first season boxed set. And then I got a DVR so I wouldn't miss anymore episodes on tv.

Oh, as for it's failing, I think it has more to do with Fox's lousy marketing. And the fact that, it's hard for a show to gain viewers mid-run when you pretty much have to watch every episode to get anything out of it. Regardless, I do hope someone else picks it up - even if it's showtime, which I won't be getting anytime in the near future, casue there's always the DVDs.

Now excuse me while I go out and buy the second season.
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Post by: IceCold on January 02, 2006, 07:05:17 PM
Sorry to bump this - but you guys'll be happy to know that, just because of you guys, I sat down and watched an episode of the show. And then I went out and rented a dvd of the first few episodes. And then I went out and bought the first season boxed set. And then I got a DVR so I wouldn't miss anymore episodes on tv.

I can now rest peacefully, knowing that I have fulfilled my mission in life...
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Post by: Hybrid Hunter on January 03, 2006, 02:12:26 AM
This show had better not die.
I'm probably getting smarter everytime i watch this show!
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Post by: vudu on January 03, 2006, 08:26:30 AM
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Now excuse me while I go out and buy the second season.
Save yourself the trouble.  The second season sucks.  The third is even worse.  (By the way, this is coming from someone who thinks the first season has some of the greatest sitcome writing since the early days of Seinfeld.)
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 03, 2006, 08:31:11 AM
OBJECTION!!!!

Moderator, I move to have the last post stricken from the record...
and have the forumers instructed to disregard that last statement!
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Post by: vudu on January 03, 2006, 08:34:33 AM
Whatever.  You can't deny that the show has gone downhill since the first season.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 03, 2006, 09:05:09 AM
yeah, sorry... I have been watching too much Law & Order over the last couple of days

so many court cases :shudder:
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 03, 2006, 11:01:57 AM
What Law and Order series are we at now?  Firetruck Dalmation Breeding Unit?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 03, 2006, 11:39:14 AM
Law & Order
Internet Crimes

The first one isn't as interesting at it sounds
and

Law & Order
Pet Protectors Unit

this one gets aired on Animal Planet Sun, Tue, & Thur weekly
You should check it out
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Post by: Hostile Creation on January 03, 2006, 12:42:10 PM
I think the show has only gotten funnier.  I would argue that there's too much callback humor (some is nice, but they inject too much), but otherwise it's great.
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Post by: IceCold on January 03, 2006, 04:46:32 PM
If you didn't like Good Grief, Afternoon Delight, The Immaculate Election, Meet the Veals, Righteous Brothers, Mr. F, Forget-Me-Now, and The Cabin Show, I can't help you...
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 03, 2006, 05:31:51 PM
Just about every episode is funny(the 1st time through), but sometimes you have to watch them twice to catch(all) the jokes.  
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Post by: wandering on January 03, 2006, 07:17:12 PM

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I can now rest peacefully, knowing that I have fulfilled my mission in life...

Glad to have helped.

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Save yourself the trouble. The second season sucks. The third is even worse. (By the way, this is coming from someone who thinks the first season has some of the greatest sitcome writing since the early days of Seinfeld.)

Hmm. Well, from what I've seen on the TV, the show has definetly gone downhill somewhat - but not as much as, say, Family Guy post-cancellation. It was an episode from the third season that turned me onto the show in the first place, after all. I think it's too early to say the show has jumped the shark.

...well, I guess they did do that gag with Henry Winkler jumping over a shark. But you know what I mean.  
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Post by: vudu on January 04, 2006, 08:02:05 AM
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...well, I guess they did do that gag with Henry Winkler jumping over a shark. But you know what I mean.
Arrested Development's shark episode is the one with Martin Short as Uncle Jack.
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Post by: TrueNerd on January 10, 2006, 10:07:17 PM
Arrested Development is the best show on the air, and has been since the day it first aired. It is absolutely outrageous that it is heading toward the grave while Stacked and The War At Home live. How is it that a show that won six emmy's in two years and an assload of other awards wasn't watched at all?

And how do you not like the Martin Short episode? It provided such hilarious quotes like, "Happy Valentines day, Nazi's!" and this funny exchange:

"I definitely said 'I'm afraid' in the jacuzzi." - Michael
"And I'm sorry for that Michael, I thought that was a pool toy." - Tobias

LAUGHAGE!
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Post by: Artimus on January 10, 2006, 11:05:55 PM
All people ever do is complain. AD has jumped the shark? LMAO. It's by far the best sitcom on TV. Perhaps every episode isn't as good as the first season (I defy you to actually compare them directly, your memory is probably different than you think) but that hardly means its gone crappy. Jumping the shark is when there is nothing left in a show and so thye start pulling ridiculous things out of nothing just grasping to straws. Watch last weeks episode and tell me that AD has jumped the shark, and I'll call you what you are: a big fat complaining liar.
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Post by: vudu on January 11, 2006, 07:17:49 AM
Actually, my memory is pretty spot on.  I own the first season on DVD and I actually watched almost every episode over X-mas with a bunch of people who had never seen the show.  I still think that the first season episodes are considerably better than the second season episodes.  I haven't watched enough of the third season to judge it as a whole, but from the 3 or 4 episodes I've seen I'm not missing much.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on January 11, 2006, 07:23:19 AM
The last episode was actually a whole episode parodizing the idea of jumping the shark (a character dying, 3D glasses moment, the narrator outright saying "Tell your friends about this show"), so I suspect that's about as close as they're going to get.
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Post by: IceCold on January 11, 2006, 05:08:10 PM
vudu - As I wrote earlier, do you then, by any chance, remember Good Grief, Afternoon Delight, The Immaculate Election, Meet the Veals, Righteous Brothers, Mr. F, Forget-Me-Now, and The Cabin Show? Because they were in the 2nd/3rd season, and they were just as good as the best of the 1st season..
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Post by: vudu on January 12, 2006, 08:16:44 AM
I don't have the second season DVD so I'm not familiar with the episode names.

I'm not denying there were funny parts in every episode in the second season and there were a few truly excellent episodes.  But as a whole the quality has gone downhill.  

I think my problem is that it's not that there aren't as many funny moments as just the quality of the writing has gone downhill.  There were many more first season episodes where the individual storylines coincided with each other at multiple times throughout the episode.  In the second season the storylines were more separated, usually only one influencing another, rather than the storylines interacting with all the others at multiple points during the episode.
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Post by: TrueNerd on January 12, 2006, 09:00:18 AM
I think part of that was due to the episode order being reduced. Who knows what they had planned for those four episodes that were killed off.

I very much liked the second season and the few episdoes of season three have made me laugh with consistency, but I may agree that season one was the best.  
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Post by: wandering on January 18, 2006, 09:31:41 PM
You know, I was thinking that vudu was wrong and the second and third seasons of Arrested Development weren't that bad. But then Desperate Housewives won the Golden Globe for best comedic TV series and Arrested Development wasn't even nominated, so I guess he was right after all. I hate the golden globes.

(In all seriousness, though, vudu, do you think your opinion of the 3rd season has been unfairly tainted by your impression of the second? I haven't really liked what I've seen of the 2nd season - tends to feel like they were trying too hard to be funny- but I've loved everything I've seen of the third. Especially that save-our-Bluths episode. And James Lipton's guest role.)
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Post by: Hostile Creation on January 19, 2006, 06:37:51 AM
Rumor has it that it's highly likely Showtime will pick it up.  They've already offered a two year contract, and apparently something in the legal stuff with Fox declares that if Fox decreases the number of episodes per season (or something like that), it's up to the producers of the show as to what will happen.

Or something.  Anyway, it looks good.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 19, 2006, 07:24:58 AM
FOX, PLEASE CANCEL ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!!!!!

wow, never thought I would say that, but that seems to be the only way I'll actually be able to watch the damn show.

But now I'll have to get Showtime and that cost $$$
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Post by: vudu on January 19, 2006, 08:14:34 AM
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(In all seriousness, though, vudu, do you think your opinion of the 3rd season has been unfairly tainted by your impression of the second?
It's hard to say.  Since it changed time slots I've had a hard time watching it on a regular basis.  I saw the first 2 or 3 episodes and the first two with Charlize Theron.  Besides the jingle For British eyes OOOoooOOOooonlyyyyyy... I didn't find anything that made me crack up too much.

I can't remember--when did they bring back Julia Louis-Dreyfus' character--the end of the second season or the beginning of the third?  I thought that whole thing was kind of stupid too.  

While individual jokes are oftentimes still pretty good, the writing just isn't as clever as it used to be.
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 10, 2006, 04:36:14 PM
The 4 episode, 2 hour season finale was pretty good, great actually.  

I like how they managed to actually bring the story to a closure, and start a new one up (in a round about way.)  If the show gets picked up on another station, great, I watch it there if possible.  But if it doesn't, then at least it went out with a proper ending.  
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Post by: PaLaDiN on February 10, 2006, 07:10:27 PM
Yeah, I loved it. Beautiful ending... couldn't have asked for more.

How could they cancel this, the funniest show ever created?

Look at us, crying like little schoolgirls...

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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 12, 2006, 03:56:30 PM
"You forgot to say away"
"She blew them all away"

That 2 hour block was soo funny, I think I'm gonna go watch it again!
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Post by: PaLaDiN on February 12, 2006, 05:23:55 PM
I'm No Scar! I'm No Scar! dot com.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 12, 2006, 05:34:00 PM
Ron Howard: Nah I don't see it as a series.... Maybe a movie!

is that a hint of things to come?
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Post by: Hostile Creation on February 12, 2006, 09:44:14 PM
Spectacular finale.  It seemed rushed, which of course it had to, but it was packed full.  A ton of incredible jokes, wonderful (and awkward) plot twists, and a whole lotta stuff for the fans of the show.
Not to mention what nitsu said: It brought it to a satisfying conclusion, but left it open enough to continue, if they choose to.
To be honest, though, I'd be perfectly content seeing some of the same people making a different show.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 13, 2006, 08:43:25 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
I'm No Scar! I'm No Scar! dot com.

www.imnoscar.com
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Post by: wandering on February 14, 2006, 09:03:18 PM
Nike supports saddam, eh?

Oh, I saw the finale (on the same time as the olympics opening ceremony? Great timing, Fox!). It was good. Rekindled my love of the series, actually. "I'm not going to make a mockery of this...." "mock trial? You were going to say mock trial, weren't you?" "I was in trouble about 3 words into that one."

Arrested Development is the perfect sitcom: it's hilarious and ridiculous while still being dry and intelligent... and it's characters are caricatures, yet you still feel like they're real people. (eat it, seinfeld) I hope it comes back. ...provided it doesn't then start sucking, ala Family Guy.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 15, 2006, 09:49:23 PM
to be fair Family Guy had a rather long break b4 bein brought back, and was being developed next to another cartoon being done by the same people using alot of the same humor.

AD should hopefully pick up next season like it was never cancelled only on another network/channel.
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Post by: Artimus on February 15, 2006, 11:02:54 PM
The fate of AD lies entirely with Mitch Hurwitz. Showtime and ABC have both commited to it (Showtime has even offered 3 more seasons) and are willing to give just as good a deal as Fox has. The deal breaker, however, is Hurwitz. Without him they don't want the show. And judging from these four episodes, he's ended it on his terms.

The only bright side is that every station in town will want to produce his next idea.