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Title: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: therat on November 10, 2005, 06:53:28 AM
there is no way to communicate with the people you link up with over wifi.... 1) you cant get there id numbers, 2) NO SMACK TALK.... half the reason mario kart or any other vs game is fun is the SMACK TALK. mario kart ds when you play over wifi will be like playing against bots with original names... no communicatioon , no human feel to them. i for one am pissed.
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 10, 2005, 06:57:44 AM
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Originally posted by: therat
2) NO SMACK TALK

Good...I for one don't want this crap...
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: therat on November 10, 2005, 06:59:18 AM
you really dont wanna know about who you are playing with? or communicate with friends without a phone who own it? i want pictochat wifi!
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 10, 2005, 07:07:33 AM
A strong majority of the best Mario Kart players post on internet forums, so the "adding players" bit isn't a big deal at all...And Mario Kart is Mario Kart, not a chatroom...
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: therat on November 10, 2005, 07:18:33 AM
hmmm, i see your point... i can smack talk you from here....mr bill, you are going down!.... i still would like a wifi chat/browser already.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 10, 2005, 07:39:56 AM
Someone will probably develop one eventually...Who knows, it could even be by Ninty themselves...
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Pale on November 10, 2005, 07:49:16 AM
The thing with internet gaming is that playing against random strangers in general is like playing against bots... even if you can hear their annoying voices.

Like Bill said, the best part of Mario Kart being online is that we can play against people we know, be that personally or through forums like this.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Ian Sane on November 10, 2005, 08:06:08 AM
I think this is a valid complaint.  The ability to smacktalk is pretty much a standard feature with online games these days.  There's already a mic on the DS so why not?  They could just put an option on to turn it off if you don't like it.

But considering this Nintendo's first real effort at an online game I think we can give them a little slack provided the game plays well and such.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on November 10, 2005, 08:10:00 AM
im more pissed that there is no way to really choose your opponents (it randomly assigns which friends you'll race against)
that might annoy me,, but i dont have many friends to begin with [and even fewer DS owning friends] so i might keep my friends list limited and just enjoy random competition.,,, that is, when i get my DS back from nintendo and set up a wifi network.,, why cant the USB thing work for mac, damnit?
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Ian Sane on November 10, 2005, 08:38:26 AM
"im more pissed that there is no way to really choose your opponents (it randomly assigns which friends you'll race against)"

What?!  Okay that is just f*cking lame.

Nintendo's refusal to go online with the Cube has clearly made them inexperienced with the conventions of the feature.  They better get on the ball by the time the Rev comes out because it would look pretty silly for Nintendo to have dumb little sh!t in their online games while Sony and MS have streamlined online games thanks to their extra experience.  I don't think it would make or break but dumb stupid sh!t piles up and that's what really hurt the Cube.  Nintendo doing one thing poorly is minor but doing like 20 things poorly isn't.  So Nintendo better learn fast on what works and what doesn't with online games.  Might as well do as many things well as they can to leave room for stuff they can't fix (there's always some things that goof up that you can't do anything about).
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Post by: darknight06 on November 10, 2005, 08:47:15 AM
If you want Mario Kart to go from being rated E to M online go ahead and allow it.  It's not so much the ability of online chat that's bad as much as it is the methane crap that people end up spewing online behind anonymity.  One of the reasons I don't even play online games anymore is because of all the derogatory name calling and hatred that seems to be the norm these days.  Must I bring PSO and Battle.net into this dicussion?
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 10, 2005, 08:50:01 AM
Yeah, I'd rather Mario Kart not be online at all.

HILARIOUS SARCASM aside, there are some disspointments, but really I'm very grateful that Mario Kart is online at all.  I know there'll be some fun MSN nights where we all go on, and when you're with all your friends like that it doesn't really matter who you play, plus we can all talk in the chatroom anyway.  When it's impromptu and we're not all together like that I'd feel a little alone, but i'm still playing someone I know across the globe, and that's pretty amazing.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: stevey on November 10, 2005, 10:28:23 AM
I'm 85% sure there is chat that take place right before gameplay and nintendo can be so stupid to not let you pick who to play(well atlease with friends)
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Artimus on November 10, 2005, 10:44:03 AM
If you want to play with friends you can choose that!

Mario Kart isn't like a MMORPG or a RTS for heaven's sake, the races last a minute or two each. Plus it's a portable game, not a console. How can you expect things out of the DS that PCs took years to do? The DS will have the most advanced portable online system ever, and the most advanced for its level of power too. Plus this is the first DS game, I'm sure in two years there will be much more as they work with the technology.
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Post by: Mario on November 10, 2005, 01:09:16 PM
If you want to "talk smack" or communicate with the people you're playing with, how about... I don't know... playing people in the same room? *GASP* Like you did with every other Mario Kart game.

Also I read somewhere that they only just decided to put MKDS online before E3 this year, so it's good for being a late addition and for their first mainstream online game, i'm 100% sure future Nintendo online games will be ironed out completely.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: KDR_11k on November 11, 2005, 01:31:35 AM
Nintendo isn't just worried about those annoying brats that constantly question everyone's sexuality and accuse everyone better than them of cheating, they're worried about paedophiles using their system to prey on children. I've seen boards that censor NUMBERS to prevent paedos from abusing them!
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: therat on November 11, 2005, 03:55:25 AM
but....i LOVE all the little children!
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Darkheart on November 11, 2005, 04:24:24 AM
The PSP does not have a mic..................the psp has online games that you cant talk smack in.....................So before we start beating Nintendo down with a baseball bat lets realize that they unlike Sony are trying to create a good service for us that will be simple and free.  They are at least showing that they are interested in Online chatting by the talking demo at this year's E3.  Let us also remember that none of these online games were built with wifi in mind they were all LAST MINUTE DECISIONS.  I am completely and positively sure that if they had the wifi devs and everything ready to go at Mario Kart Ds's beginning, all the features and modes would be online.  So c'mon now peeps we can find something better to do than nit pick a feature that all of us have begged for from Nintendo.  This is their first online game so give it a rest and I say give it a year before we see some really neat stuff on wifi.  Until that time we are gonna get half of the modes online, selective online features, and plenty of other stuff.

~DarkHeart~
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: therat on November 11, 2005, 06:41:15 AM
im not comparing the ds to the psp... if i did that, why not question where i can get one of those top secret government issued handheld supercomputer with 3d holographic projection....
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: IceCold on November 11, 2005, 08:26:49 AM
As long as there is no lag, I'll be fine; they can build on the features as time goes on.
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on November 11, 2005, 08:49:39 AM
Personally i think the whole no voip is a good thing, basically it keeps the kids safe, you don't have them talking to people they don't know.

Same with the requirements in games like AC: WW where you can only play with people on your friends list, it makes it less likely that kids will end up playing with some pedophile.

Same with keeping the codes a secret, you don't want the codes to be public otherwise anyone can put you on their friends list.

If you want to contact a person so you can exchange info do it on the message boards via the PM service.  
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Switchblade Cross on November 11, 2005, 09:55:54 AM
You must keep in mind that the WiFi the DS is using is fairly slow.  Its not as quick as 802.11g or even a wired connection.  It would be pretty taxing on the system to transfer the game data, which running pretty fast in mario kart, and allowing voice chat at the same time.  Although, voice chat in the waiting room while people are joining your party could be done.

But, as people have said, WFC in MKDS was a last minute decision.  They could have added all these features, but they would not have had the game for Xmas.  Thats important considering GTA on PSP just came out...
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Kairon on November 11, 2005, 10:21:01 AM
Yeah, I'm sorry, but the potential for abuse by malicious persons with prurient interests of a less private, more chat-enabled FREE internet connection to lots of 10, 11, 12 year olds...

I fully support Nintendo in this decision.

Now I just wonder how the Rev online community will be handled and how much freedom those titles will have. I'm sure a Pokemon Online game for the REV would have plenty of privacy protections, but perhaps a game aimed at higher age users would be more open.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 11, 2005, 11:14:27 AM
I agree wholeheartedly...though semi-online is better than no online, I simply think this whole thing of being able to only play with people of a similar skill level is pure BS.
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on November 11, 2005, 11:20:05 AM
Well that's only in rivals mode, regional and worldwide modes do not have that restriction, nor does friends mode.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 11, 2005, 12:19:40 PM
What?  Is there really a mode that allows servers to be created like most online games in existence?  Because that would be the ultlimate pwn.
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Zach on November 12, 2005, 06:03:31 PM
here is a really good example why voice chat may not be a good idea.  
SWEAR WORD WARNING

Seriously, dont click on this if you dont want to hear the f word a million times
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Arrow on November 12, 2005, 06:28:16 PM
Saying that the exclusion of voice chat was to keep the rating kid friendly is not likely. After all, you can create your own avatar which everyone will see. I'm expecting to see many a pixelated genitalia or swear word over my opponent's cars.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Artimus on November 12, 2005, 06:32:04 PM
Maybe Jack Thompson was onto something afterall?
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Post by: mantidor on November 12, 2005, 07:59:09 PM
I really dont think that the 32x32 pixel with only 16 colors is going to allow a detailed penis, and in any case Im sure Nintendo will ban any ofenders, while tracking all voice chat activity to be sure there arent any swear words is kind of imposible.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: attackslug on November 12, 2005, 08:26:58 PM
My Phallus-Falcon on F-Zero GX and countless obscene Animal Crossing signs/clothes/umbrellas/etc. say otherwise...
It probably is both an attempt to keep the E rating (semi)constant while playing online and to cut bandwidth requirements.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: darknight06 on November 12, 2005, 09:00:55 PM
Not to mention that nobody at McDonalds wants to hear how someone raped your mom last night either, cuz that's the crap you'll be getting if you let it go unchecked.  Battle.net at McDonalds anyone?
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 13, 2005, 12:43:02 AM
I'm pretty pissed about Mario Kart DS too. How dare it offer an extremely solid single player and local multiplayer game. Don't even get me started about offering online gameplay that doesn't let me scream into the microphone like those cool kids on Xbox Live! do while racing, Nintendo should be shot for that!  
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: therat on November 13, 2005, 11:09:16 AM
sorry! kekeke
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: stevey on November 13, 2005, 11:25:27 AM
The people on xxx live are inmature 10 year olds (see KKD); But the people on NWC are way more mature and wont go into "%##$%#%$#$**$$%$#%#*#*$#*#%$*% your mom" speak so I wish nintendo would let us have voip
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Arbok on November 13, 2005, 11:52:22 AM
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Originally posted by: stevey
The people on xxx live are inmature 10 year olds (see KKD); But the people on NWC are way more mature and wont go into "%##$%#%$#$**$$%$#%#*#*$#*#%$*% your mom" speak so I wish nintendo would let us have voip


Where is the evidence to support that? I don't think any online gaming service would be immune from those type of responses from their base.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on November 13, 2005, 11:59:32 AM
I think Nintendo did a smart thing keeping smack talk out of Mario Kart.  

1)It is distracting and just more information that may cause Lag
2)It prevents cursing or any bad communication to happen among players.
3)It has become the most annoying thing about playing online games is listening to the ignorant banter.
4)I don't want to try to understand what people are trying to tell me through the DS microphones.

Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: mantidor on November 13, 2005, 12:10:05 PM
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Originally posted by: attackslug
My Phallus-Falcon on F-Zero GX and countless obscene Animal Crossing signs/clothes/umbrellas/etc. say otherwise...
It probably is both an attempt to keep the E rating (semi)constant while playing online and to cut bandwidth requirements.


How does that say otherwise? I never said it was impossible, but dekals are a lot easier to track down and ban than whole conversations.
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: therat on November 13, 2005, 06:59:07 PM
nintendo will hopefully do it right in one bang, pda, internet and voip all in one pack
this way you can do it without switching game cards....  rate it with mature content may occur with other people. zipo, id love nintendo again...then again, the systems almost fully hifi hacked open...!!!
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: Renny on November 13, 2005, 08:30:19 PM
They're launching a new service that will be very popular. They're going to have their hands more than full with Animal Crossing. If my GCN town is at all reflective of what an immature person is capable of. :¬þ
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 14, 2005, 02:32:52 AM
"(see KKD)"

I find that ridiculously amusing coming from you, stevey.  
Title: RE: im pissed about mariokart
Post by: stevey on November 14, 2005, 12:59:55 PM
"Where is the evidence to support that?"

Well nintendo fanboy are way better people & mature than any $ony or ms fanboy.
Title: RE:im pissed about mariokart
Post by: IceCold on November 14, 2005, 02:43:39 PM
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Originally posted by: stevey
"Where is the evidence to support that?"

Well nintendo fanboy are way better people & mature than any $ony or ms fanboy.
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