Post by: Mario on August 17, 2005, 03:25:28 AM
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Ubisoft supports Revolution
Ubisoft has confirmed support of Nintendo Revolution with games at games convention.
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Whereas many players seemed désepérer concerning an advertisement on Nintendo Revolution, Ubisoft launches the hostilities and confirms at the time of Games Convention its support towards the next console of Nintendo, in particular with the development of several titles. The firm however did not bring more precision on its next Revolution productions.
Good news.
Post by: Dasmos on August 17, 2005, 04:10:45 AM
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Post by: nickmitch on August 17, 2005, 06:56:29 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on August 17, 2005, 07:36:19 AM
Though this is still better than if Ubisoft didn't support the Rev. Then Nintendo would really be in trouble.
Post by: MaleficentOgre on August 17, 2005, 08:14:02 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on August 17, 2005, 08:26:02 AM
(aka Way Beyond Good and Evil)
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Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on August 17, 2005, 05:28:48 PM
http://cube.ign.com/articles/629/629891p1.html
Square Enix has a Crystal Chronicles in the works, I believe.
Post by: Epitaph on August 17, 2005, 05:30:41 PM
Post by: jasonditz on August 17, 2005, 06:33:22 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on August 17, 2005, 07:32:32 PM
Has Activision announced support? they, along with EA and Ubisoft, make up the Triforce of soulless, corporate, license-filled gaming.
Post by: The Omen on August 17, 2005, 08:45:01 PM
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No see, it's a new Disney title actually named Flagship! It's full title is "Mickey's Mediocre Flagship Adventure"
Has Activision announced support? they, along with EA and Ubisoft, make up the Triforce of soulless, corporate, license-filled gaming.
Including some good games too. Lets not discount them just because they throw money around. Capitalism at it purest, my friend.
Post by: MrMojoRising on August 17, 2005, 10:57:54 PM
Post by: nemo_83 on August 18, 2005, 02:44:55 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 18, 2005, 04:11:49 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 18, 2005, 05:28:44 AM
While he doesn't have any games in development yet, soon-to-be Evil Overlord KDR_11k announces he "intends to support" the Revolution. No specifics were given.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 18, 2005, 05:51:44 AM
Factor 5 creates flight shooters that look really technically nice, but besides that, they haven't proven themselves as a developer. They had Nintendo's help and they still couldn't get an enjoyable land based missions for Star Wars Rogue Squadron 3. It was a joke...and the flight levels we got were basically exactly the same as what we played on the N64. BORING.
Silicon Knights had 2 games for the Cube. I think they have promise (much more than does Factor 5) but again they are a technical company...and really are not that good at creating fun games. Eternal Darkness was a great game, but it took how many years to complete? Sure it moved platforms over, but it also took Nintendo's supervision to really polish the game up. And did it appeal to everyone? Was it a grandslam? No.
Now we had the horrible Metal Gear Solid, which added gameplay mechanics to an old game that wasn't designed to have those mechanics part of the game. So the game felt off. Too bad they weren't allowed to revamp the levels, otherwise it might have been a descent game.
I don't think Silicon Knights and Factor 5 deserve us yelling and crying at Nintendo over. Just like Rare didn't deserve it. Look at Rare's track record after leaving Nintendo...pitiful.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 18, 2005, 06:51:43 AM
Okay... Um, how do you fly in Turrican? I mean, you DO remember that Factor 5 started on the Amiga?
Post by: Ian Sane on August 18, 2005, 07:19:18 AM
Overrated or not what's better? Factor 5 and Silicon Knights support or dick all nothing? What did we gain from them jumping ship? Nothing. It's the same thing with Rare. You can say that towards the end they weren't delivering. But we still lost a developer on a console that was struggling with support from the beginning. Call those devs overrated all you want. The truth is PS3 and Xbox 360 owners now have even more games to choose from and we have less. Overrated games are still better than months going by with literally no games released at all. We're at a point where any third party suggesting support at all is considered a big deal. Losing ANY support at this point is significant.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 18, 2005, 07:21:10 AM
"Working on these consoles for this game and for the time we have to develop it, it's quite cosmetic...Which is important in this game, because shadows are important, and sound...but I think on 360 and PS3 games are not going to be completely different because interfaces are the same. If interfaces could be different then really new gameplay could appear"
Very encouraging, to say the least...
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 18, 2005, 08:09:21 AM
If Nintendo was judged by their past record then they would still dominate, but Nintendo is being judged by their past and present record and several games that have come out from Nintendo just hasn't appealed to the general public.
Just like Rare's past performances throughout the history of gaming has been pretty good, but recently they have appeared to be going downhill so yeah I view the company for who they are now...understanding that it can change at anytime.
Post by: pudu on August 18, 2005, 09:13:17 AM
What is important is that consumers see that the big-name games are being released on the Rev., along with the other two consoles. Ubisoft is one of my favorite developers because of the range of games they deliver (a lot of them I find top-quality). Tell me none of these games/IPs get you excited:
Rayman
Prinse of Persia
Splinter Cell
Beyond Good and Evil
Ghost Recon
Rainbow Six
XIII
Myst
Far Cry
King Kong
...alright those are all I can think of but I think that shows some good potential for what could come to Rev.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 18, 2005, 09:50:52 AM
I am happy that Ubisoft has committed to make some games for Revolution. What I don't get is those that snub other developers and then complain about losing others. I want alot of developers, but I want them to realize that unless their product is the best it can be it won't be getting my dollar...and in fact it may be amazing and still not get my dollar.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 18, 2005, 10:26:41 AM
None of these franchises I care about.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 18, 2005, 10:40:28 AM
That said, I'm with Spak...I only have so much I can buy, and what I buy needs to be quality...If a company doesn't provide me quality games, I WILL be selfish and say I don't care about them...
Post by: Ian Sane on August 18, 2005, 10:51:11 AM
But nobody can say "we've got Ubisoft" as if that's going to convince me the Rev has solid support. I remember back during the Cube post-launch drought Nintendo sent out a press release BRAGGING about all the support they had. Well they did have a lot more games coming out during that time then they had during the last year of the N64's life but all of the games SUCKED so it didn't matter. So what I consider acceptable third party support is meaningful support from third parties that deliver the goods on a consistent basis. Ubisoft doesn't fit into that mold. Their support is still important because, let's face it, if Ubisoft jumped ship Nintendo wouldn't be able to get anyone. Quantity is important as well particularly as a marketing tool.
All third parties are not equal and not all games are equal. That's an important distinction that I hope Nintendo realizes so they don't just attract Ubisoft, EA, Activision, Midway, and THQ and think that that's good enough because they've got Tony Hawk and Madden.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 18, 2005, 10:53:57 AM
Obviously Ninty sees 3rd party support is a lot more important than I personally do, and I'm sure they'll do their best to pull them on board...Iwata has even said that he "is trying to get every game that is coming to Xbox 360 and PS3 to the Revolution"...Of course, this is an exaggeration considering he couldn't possibly get 1st party games, but it does show that Iwata knows the importance of support...
Post by: vudu on August 18, 2005, 12:09:09 PM
That being the case, I'm still happy UbiSoft is supporting Nintendo.
I almost bought FarCry last week for $20, but got UT2004 instead.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 18, 2005, 12:57:44 PM
I bought 8-10 of them. The others I got as gifts.
Of those games, almost all of them were bought new, and almost all of them are Nintendo published. The games that aren't Nintendo published are:
SSX 3
Bomberman Generations
TimeSplitters 3
TimeSplitters 2
Viewtiful Joe
I am highly picky about my games, but I am willing to pay full price for a good game and give the publishers and developers their due money. In fact I usually make it a habit of buying new, except with my GBA games.
If I had my complete say I would only have Nintendo published games, Nintendo licensed games (like Sega doing F-Zero) and a select group of 3rd parties that are committed to not only working on Nintendo games, but working with Nintendo themselves to makes these games the best possible.
Sure my method would have possible draughts in games, but I would rather know each month 1 single great game I want to buy comes out than 3-4 games that are dung.
Post by: nemo_83 on August 18, 2005, 06:08:27 PM
Capcom seems to believe they have to have HD to make RE5, and really from what I can tell the game seems to be taking the benjamin route. They didn't make enough money from part 4 even though gamers loved it so they are going to make something marketable.
I can see how Black Hawk Down can provide inspiration for Halo, but RE? WTF? Go back and watch some horror movies.
Post by: Invincible Donkey Kong on August 18, 2005, 08:08:24 PM
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Post by: nemo_83 on August 19, 2005, 01:15:59 AM
And, "I look forward to the 'new kind of fun' that's always unique to Nintendo. I expect we’ll see a lot of surprises, such as the unannounced controller as well. I think it’s great that we'll be able to play Famicom and other games via Internet download. I hope that some Sega games will be playable as well."
Sonic Team, in my opinion should focus all efforts on a single Sonic/Knuckles game, a single Knights game, and something original. Billy Hatcher was original and much more interesting than Shadow the Hedgehog.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on August 19, 2005, 04:07:13 AM
But what I do care about is that this (probably) confirms that UbiSoft has seen the controller. So it's out there. Naka's seen it. Matt's seen it.
Except Iwata himself said that the reason RE5 wasn't confirmed for Rev was because Capcom hasn't seen it. Honestly, if Capcom hasn't seen it, why would SEGA have seen it? Sonic Adventure 2: Battle sold all right but the rest of SEGA's games for the Cube (or any system this generation, really, with the exception of Sonic Advance and its sequels) didn't exactly sell like hot cakes (what does that phrase even mean?)...
SEGA NINTY SAMMIE MURJUR IZ FRIDAITOHN!!11!11!!1
Segtendo = best name ever.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2005, 05:01:04 AM
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Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
Segtendo = best name ever.
I believe that honor goes to Nintega
c'mon say it like the old Sega intros, it just sounds rights
Post by: Mario on August 19, 2005, 05:04:51 AM
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Sonic Adventure 2: Battle sold all right but the rest of SEGA's games for the Cube didn't exactly sell like hot cakes.
Uh, yes they did. Sonic Mega Collection, Super Monkey Ball, Super Monkey Ball 2, Sonic Adventure DX, and uh.. more that i'm forgetting ALL sold VERY well.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 19, 2005, 05:10:01 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on August 19, 2005, 07:08:02 AM
I think it's very possible Sega is more interested than Capcom, because Sega was very big into innovation and risk-taking during the Dreamcast era, and even now it's still doing a bit of that with games like Feel the Magic. Capcom, on the other hand, has always been about developing a new franchise and then milking it like there's no tomorrow. Viewtiful Joe 2 didn't even sell very well, yet there are two new games being released this year! Don't get me wrong though, I like both of them.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 19, 2005, 07:41:47 AM
I would love Nintendo to try and partner completely with Sega and Sammy. I think Nintendo should have bought Sega instead of Sammy...Sega's development teams and IPs with Nintendo's technical skills and development team's skills would have made an unbeatable team.
That would have been the most innovative duo ever.
I like Capcom. I think they are a very talented group of developers, but at the end of the day I think they are less about innovation and more about making the games that mainstream will buy.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 19, 2005, 08:36:39 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 19, 2005, 09:17:31 AM
But at the same time, if I did know something about it, and I was planning to use it, and I was excited I would do exactly what the Sega guy did. Definately know about it, can't talk...though it will rock your bottom off and into a river.
Post by: WesDawg on August 19, 2005, 11:45:47 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"I have to say I really think Factor 5 and Silicon Knights are both very overrated."
Overrated or not what's better? Factor 5 and Silicon Knights support or dick all nothing? What did we gain from them jumping ship? Nothing. It's the same thing with Rare. You can say that towards the end they weren't delivering. But we still lost a developer on a console that was struggling with support from the beginning. Call those devs overrated all you want. The truth is PS3 and Xbox 360 owners now have even more games to choose from and we have less. Overrated games are still better than months going by with literally no games released at all. We're at a point where any third party suggesting support at all is considered a big deal. Losing ANY support at this point is significant.
SK and Rare were both money sinks for Nintendo that weren't panning out. Rare had been doing.. what.. 2 years between major releases. And a lot of them weren't selling well. SK was doing the same thing and asking Nintendo for bigger budgets. And their games weren't selling well.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on September 02, 2005, 02:32:07 PM
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