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Title: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on July 20, 2005, 06:00:31 AM
Here is a link to Cube-europe.com where you can drool over the first screenshots from Resident Evil 5 which looks awesome:

Resident Evil 5 screenshots

But there is a hitch: it´s so far only coming out for Ps3 and XBox 360. Maybe Nintendo should get started handing out more developer kits!!

Oops! This topic probably belongs over on Other Systems, then? But now it´s too late for me to move it. Couldn´t they put an "undo"-function into this Forum? Sometimes one can get carried away by the excitement over a news report and place it wrongly. I do apologize, and promise to use the undo function always if they make one.    
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Nosferat2 on July 20, 2005, 08:00:37 AM
Well a look at nintendojo states that Capcom specifically announced that RE5 Will ONLY be on PS3 and Xbox 360, Not on the Rev. Am i the only one thats like WTF.  Either Nintendo are the dumbasses or capcom. I say both. F them both, i doubt ill be buying a REV simply for Metroid.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: KDR_11k on July 20, 2005, 08:17:25 AM
Rev or not Rev it won't be on the GC so it doesn't belong here. Besides, this was already posted in Rev discussion.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: stevey on July 20, 2005, 10:22:50 AM
Late again Gamebasher (but just 6 hour this time) there an other system thread and a rev thread.  

PS. use the rev one to bitch and other system thread to drool over the screen shot.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Dirk Temporo on July 20, 2005, 10:24:53 AM
Capcom's retarded. Whoever has majority say in their decisions has the IQ of a bowl of fruit.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: KDR_11k on July 20, 2005, 09:36:26 PM
That'd be the shareholders. What do you expect from the leeches of capitalism?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on July 21, 2005, 10:05:29 AM
Yeah, only 6 hours this time.

You know, when I get my own computer, I will cut that down to either 6 minutes or be first with some news topic.

As regards Capcom´s decision to not announce RE 5 for Revolution, I couldn´t agree more: it´s the dumbest decision ever. It sold over 1 million on GCN! What do they think it sell on revolution with a BETTER controller?

Strange people.

This...wouldn´t have something to do with them not knowing what the interface will be like on the Nintendo-next? I did hear that some Nintendo spokesperson remarked that just because we had not seen the new controller, that didn´t mean others hadn´t!

What´s going on?  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Ian Sane on July 21, 2005, 10:15:04 AM
"It sold over 1 million on GCN! What do they think it sell on revolution with a BETTER controller?"

How do you know it's "better" when you haven't seen it?

And that's the point.  Capcom can't decide to release RE5 unless they know the hardware and the controller can handle it.  Odds are Capcom doesn't know anything and thus just aren't making any decision.  Another possibility is that they have seen it and know it won't work for RE5.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: vudu on July 21, 2005, 10:38:19 AM
1 million isn't a whole heck of a lot for a game as big as RE4.  GTA SA sold something like 6 million.  I think I remember reading that Vice City has sold a combined total of 11 million.  Not sure what Halo 2 sold, but it was around 4 or 5 million.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 21, 2005, 01:56:12 PM
I'm thinking this is going to happen with a lot of games...but not in the way you're thinking, and I think Capcom and me are thinking the same way about this.  Why not release RE5 on those other two consoles and release a Revolution-ified Resident Evil on Rev?  One that takes advantage of the revolutionary features?  I mean, Gamebasher, you yourself were bugging out about not being able to aim properly in RE4...with gyros, guess what?  You won't have that problem.

This is going on with DS/PSP too.  An ordinary (though better-looking) version of a game is released on the PSP, while a version is released on DS taking advantage of the touch screen.  For example Spider-Man 2 on PSP is absolutely different from the DS version.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Ian Sane on July 21, 2005, 02:05:09 PM
"Why not release RE5 on those other two consoles and release a Revolution-ified Resident Evil on Rev? One that takes advantage of the revolutionary features?"

Personally I would rather have both.  I don't really want the Rev to be so different that it has none of the same games.  Sometimes you want a multiplatform release.  But that's better than nothing and it could result in some sweet games.  But that will never happen unless Nintendo ups their market share.  If the Rev is a strong number two I could see that happening but it's not going to happen if it's in last place.  Third parties just won't even bother.  Third parties have to feel confident that financially it's worth the effort.  We're not going to see too many exclusive Rev versions just to be nice.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 21, 2005, 05:37:14 PM
I would rather have a Resident Evil made by Shinji Mikami.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: KDR_11k on July 22, 2005, 03:59:25 AM
They don't talk about the Revolution, that would be a gainst the first rule of the Revolution licensing agreement (You don't talk about Revolution!). And what's even worse, it's against the second rule of the Revolution license agreement (You don't talk about Revolution!)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on July 22, 2005, 06:56:48 AM
IanSane, I believe that Nintendo controller will be better, because every controller they´ve made so far was always better than the one that came before it.

And, frankly speaking, I really think you are that far off if you assume that Capcom has either not seen the controller at all or has seen it and concluded that it doesn´t work with RE5.

If Nintendo still haven´t lost their marbles, I really think they are making a superb controller which will work with ANY game at all. Why do you think Reggie calls the Revolution gaming concept "All Access Gaming"? To scare the loyal gamers of existing games types away, only to attract new types of gamers? All Access means they want both the old and the new types of gamers to come into their fold in order for the Nintendo marketshare to go up.

I downright think that Capcom HAS seen the controller, but that it isn´t finished yet (Miyamoto recently stated that they were still working on it) and therefore they are waiting to get the final controller in their hands after which they can decide how to make the sequel to RE4 on Revolution.

In other words, we will get a sequel to RE4 on Revolution, but perhaps it won´t be called RE5.

 
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: KDR_11k on July 22, 2005, 07:58:07 AM
I still think the Rev will see a port. Capcom's just either undecided or NDA'd.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: vudu on July 22, 2005, 09:11:22 AM
Quote

Personally I would rather have both. I don't really want the Rev to be so different that it has none of the same games. Sometimes you want a multiplatform release. But that's better than nothing and it could result in some sweet games. But that will never happen unless Nintendo ups their market share. If the Rev is a strong number two I could see that happening but it's not going to happen if it's in last place. Third parties just won't even bother. Third parties have to feel confident that financially it's worth the effort. We're not going to see too many exclusive Rev versions just to be nice.
I actually an article somewhere that predicted multiplatform releases will be even more common next generation than they are now.  Due to the rising development costs, publishers will need to recoup their expenses by releasing games on as many consoles as possible.

If this is true, it would be excellent for Nintendo.  Nintendo is the only first party to have more than a couple first party games worth playing.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: IceCold on July 22, 2005, 08:30:01 PM
"Due to the rising development costs, publishers will need to recoup their expenses by releasing games on as many consoles as possible."

If that were true, the Gamecube would have seen a hell of a lot more ports than it did, and does. Publishers decided that they wouldn't make money by porting it to the Cube, even if the cost was minimal. They didn't hold back the ports from the Cube just because they wanted to do Nintendo in.

And the same might happen for the Revolution - because of low third party sales on it/small userbase, publishers could decide to omit the Rev easily, citing unprofitability.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: KDR_11k on July 22, 2005, 08:50:12 PM
Depends. Perhaps the Rev's "revolutionary feature" will sell it a bit better and get some people who buy cross-platform games.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on July 25, 2005, 04:33:22 AM
"I actually an article somewhere that predicted multiplatform releases will be even more common next generation than they are now. Due to the rising development costs, publishers will need to recoup their expenses by releasing games on as many consoles as possible."

IceCold, I think Vudu meant that that article predicted how it will be from now on and not how it was in the past. The Revolution will probably see a lot more releases of third party software than ever before then.

And with the sheer level of first party titles available for Nintendo´s machine, people will have a good reason to dash over to their local games shop and get a Revolution and three great games.

Play, play, play and play some more. Oops, I forgot to do all kinds of other things. But until I finish playing, they are on autopilot and will manage themselves.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: vudu on July 25, 2005, 09:36:04 AM
Quote

If that were true, the Gamecube would have seen a hell of a lot more ports than it did, and does.
I was referring to NEXT generation, not the current one.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: IceCold on July 25, 2005, 02:14:37 PM
And I was saying that if it didn't happen with the Gamecube, then it has a good chance of not happening with the Revolution. Kindly refer to the end of my last post before replying.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on July 26, 2005, 06:48:01 AM
Ok, we´ll do that.

But I really don´t think that that will be Revolutions destiny.

Iwata just confirmed in an IGN interview that the Revolution controller is going to be programmed to play any kind of game type from launch. And with the ease of developement they talk about always concerning the Revolution what would be the problem for third party developers?  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: KDR_11k on July 26, 2005, 07:29:48 AM
Well... The expectation that the Rev won't sell?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Rancid Planet on July 30, 2005, 12:57:32 AM
Third parties don't need a reason to shun the Rev. Did Criterion and EA have a reason to put Burnout 3 on the XBOX but not the GCN? No.

Man I just can't let that one go can I?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on October 02, 2005, 05:05:43 AM
If the Nintendo Revolution kicks off with a fantastic First Party line up (which it must and assuredly will, since Nintendo aren´t the ones to forget how important this is just now), truly demonstrating the function of the new controller concept, I don´t think that Nintendo will be ignored much anylonger by very many developers. They wont be able to afford to ignore them!

There will be new players from everywhere who will come running to the new machine, and virtually gobble it up! I feel this very strongly. Just like I felt, when the first tv-game generation began decades ago. I get that same feel about the Revolution. I mean, this is just so big...  In my view, Nintendo has simply done it again! Pulled off what the very word "Revolution" implies! Incredibly, they have indeed, gone back to the start of it all, re-invented videogaming, the Spirit of it, and only dressed it in an up-to-date form.  And people who have tired of the current type of consoles will be ultra quick to perceive this, once it hits the streets! For, like I wrote above, they have managed to hit the nail on the head by taking videogame entertainment to where people everywhere can understand it, grasp it, and love it all the way! They started it with DS, and continues it with the Revolution. The release of the Nintendo Revolution can´t come soon enough. Just the thought alone of playing Mario with THAT controller, makes me drool...



 
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Dasmos on October 02, 2005, 05:27:37 PM
Why bump this thread with a comment that isn't even remotely relevant to the thread or the Gamecube section? This needs to be in the Rev fourms I am thinking.....
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on October 03, 2005, 10:31:38 AM
You are right about that one.

I really really really have to learn it (I think I will stand outside, and scream it out loud multiple times, while being drunk...or something...and wake up the next day never again to forget it), so I will go about doing just that.

Damn, now nobody will notice my nice little pep talk about the wonders of Revolutions future...

But that doesn´t matter - it is already set in stone...readmyvirtuallips: s-u-c-c-e-s-s a-n-d n-o-t-h-i-n-g b-u-t s-u-c-c-e-s-s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Don'tHate742 on October 03, 2005, 03:42:31 PM
How old ARE you?

I could of sworn you were the youngest person on this forum by just looking at how you post.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: KDR_11k on October 03, 2005, 10:22:22 PM
He said 47, IIRC.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: TMW on October 04, 2005, 05:36:00 AM
He is the anti Ian.  

In...every way.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 04, 2005, 06:05:18 PM
TMW=lose.

Bill is the anti-Ian.  Gamebasher is the anti-Common Sense.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on October 22, 2005, 08:03:15 AM
I am definitely not anti-common sense!

It is not anti-common sense to be convinced that the Nintendo Revolution will be a huge success. Just reading how positively nearly every developer interviewed are all talking about it, how consumers talk about it just as enthusiastically, makes it obvious that it is going to be a big success!

Nintendo has, at great risk to themselves, just taken gaming to the next level! That is one monumental achievement in itself, which is why they are already turning heads, and building up hype in a way that has never been seen before. Sure some prefer the old-school control layout, but many more than that will love the new, fantastically accessible control layout of the Nintendo Revolution, which will make gaming far more friendly and enjoyable. Sure it will need some time getting used to, but once that is over, people will gobble it up like there was nothing else. Merge with the game world, like never before. Thus, only one more level of gaming is possible after that: Virtual gaming worlds, where extreme high tech will transfer the player into the gameworld and have the player feel as one with it.

The ease of control now made possible with Nintendo Revolution is exactly what people these days need, more than they need complicated, difficult to access games since time for playing games is becoming less and less in a steadily more demanding career- and family oriented society. Which means Nintendo will do it again: crank up big hardware sales like they did with the DS, carving out a bigger and bigger new market for themselves. In time, the trend being set by the DS/ Nintendo Revolution type of games are bound to dominate as they will once and for all undo the hard-to-access type of games that have dominated for many years already, and which never had but mostly hardcore gamers staying loyal to them. Which problem is reflected for a second time in the way of a probable videogame crash, which could follow the current market stagnation (Piracy, unavoidable mergers and the ball keeps rolling...). But, Nintendo has probable saved us all from that scenario by coming out with the DS and the Revolution. Opened up the eyes on developers and consumers alike everywhere and thus enabled the dawn of a new era in gaming which will right all the wrongs and keep the industry alive. Keep the sales numbers rising and everyone happy.

I have played games for nearly 20 years now, and have followed all that moves in the videogame world nearly as long as that, so I know how that world works and what works in it and what doesn´t.

So I have just proved that I have plenty of common sense, by stating my conviction, based on facts in terms of sales of the DS, developer reactions and consumer feed-back concerning Nintendo Revolution. Nintendo will be very successfull indeed with their new home console launching in 2006.

As for my age, I am 39, and I can be childish, but that doesn´t mean I will have to be judged to be less able in terms of writing.    
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: ThePerm on October 22, 2005, 08:21:29 AM
i am the anti-coherent
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: KDR_11k on October 22, 2005, 09:40:05 AM
Anti-common sense? No. Anti-critical thinking? Hell yes.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: ShyGuy on October 22, 2005, 11:00:02 AM
I would say Gamebasher is anti-cynical, anti-negative. Which really doesn't fit his name....

It's the dichotomy of man!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 5 revealed: first screenshots!
Post by: Gamebasher on October 24, 2005, 02:53:13 AM
My previous name, in another Forum for SEGA games, was Sonybasher! When the DC died, and this being viciously celebrated by braindead Sony Fans, I sold my DC, bought a GCN, and jumped over to this website. I had, prior to the launch of the GCN, owned an N64, and therefore was familiar with Nintendo games from that platform, having only been playing on SEGA machines up to the time where the Saturn turned out to be a flop. Seeing, and liking, this new website I naturally wanted to start talking to people here as well. But, I didn´t know what username to take, and since there was that old name already, and since I was having a grudgematch with many rubbish games out there at the time, in particular ones found on the mediocre PS2 platform, I decided to take the name Gamebasher.

I still feel that this name is appropriate for me, as it says a lot about what I still am, namely somebody who dislikes crapgames, and bash them when I see them. I only buy a few selected very high quality games each year. There is a lot of games out there which simply doesn´t live up to the term "Quality software", and so for a variety of reasons. Nintendo looks upon games in a similar way, not liking rubbish, only allowing quality, and never really releasing anything until it is completely made as it was intended and envisioned. Certainly, people have their faults, and even Nintendo can make mistakes. But they make them a lot less than a lot of other gamedevelopers out there!

I really feel that I like to be the way they are, and just focus on quality alone. Never admitting any rubbish into my life. Once a high standard has been set, this should never be lowered again. That is probably why, having played the best titles from Nintendo, I really honestly CANNOT find any other titles out there very often which come close to the level of gaming excellence found in Nintendo titles. So I think that even though my name can be misleading to some, it is still most fitting.

I will always hammer down the games that are not good enough to match that high standard set by Nintendo! For, those games that just don´t catch up, are the ones that lower the whole value of the game industry. And probably the very reason why so many people copy games these days. They don´t feel that it´s worth it to shell out 40 bucks for a game - isn´t worth the money but set at that price by the industry itself.

So the industry should continue to look at ways to raise the quality of games coming to the market, and make sure that those that don´t are simply not allowed in. Impossible perhaps, in that particular way. But then other forces would definitely squeeze them out in yet other ways, which is actually happening already in a way as many game developers find it increasingly difficult to stay affloat in a steadily more demanding, compromised industry. Perhaps Nintendo´s new input of simplicity in games, will help a lot of developers, new and old, to cut excessive costs in game developement, allowing for more staff to be hired at a better pay, and thus more combined creativity to flourish! So that they will nolonger have to sit with meagre staff, which isn´t enough to get the job done (Confounding Factor with Toby Gard and Galleon is just one example) having to make big, painfull, unhealthy compromises in their developement plans which kills the very spirit of the games they try to make!

I always admired Hiroshi Yamauchi for being so darn good at getting the highest performance from his game teams at NCL: Simply place the 4 RD teams in internal competition with oneanother, waving the carrot at each of them in order to get them all to go for the gold! What you get is maximum performance from all of them, and maximum quality output and innovation in the software. THIS is why Nintendo became so succesfull. Yamauchi is the only God of gaming.

I just love Nintendo! They are indeed - the King of videogaming!!