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Title: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on June 13, 2005, 12:24:52 PM
YAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Artimus on June 13, 2005, 12:42:22 PM
Once again it's proved you can't convict a well-liked celebrity in the USA.

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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 13, 2005, 01:01:23 PM
He can freely roam the streets without consequence once again!

More Southpark episodes!
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: Nile Boogie on June 13, 2005, 01:25:34 PM
I always thought MJ was a "freaky-if-of-a-man" but I never thought he touched those kids like they said. They say it was all about him owning the rights to all the Beetles songs anyway so.

"Once again it's proved you can't convict a well-liked celebrity in the USA."

Mike Tyson was well liked and he didn't even rape that girl. Any women that calls you to her hotel at 3am...
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: TMW on June 13, 2005, 01:46:02 PM
No means no, NB.  

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Its good that the trial is finally over.  MJ is a wierdo, and probably has issues, but...I don't know.  I don't know if he did what they say he did or not, but love it or hate it, he's been "proven innocent."

I was about to say something about OJ, but I think I should refrain.  
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: stevey on June 13, 2005, 02:16:44 PM
THERE IS NO GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 13, 2005, 04:34:08 PM
It doesn't matter...If he did he, he did, and if he didn't, he didn't...True judgement occurs after death anyway...
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Post by: CardBoardBox on June 13, 2005, 04:58:38 PM
Or not and you just die.....OH MJ HOW I LAUGH AT YOU AND YOUR CHIMP BUBBLES, sigh.

The trail was funny, but the end was sad. (gotojailgotojailgotojailgotojailgotojailgotojailgotojailgotojailgotojailgotojailgotojail)
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on June 13, 2005, 05:26:34 PM
I don't see how anyone could have wanted him to go to jail.
I've been a fan ever since I was little and we even share a birthday!
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Post by: Nile Boogie on June 13, 2005, 07:03:04 PM
Not that I'm trying to start something but why does most "high profile" (See: Hollywood, Sports, Music, ect.) case in America seem to have the same factors involved. Think about it for a while and see if you come up with the same thing as I have.
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Post by: Ms.Pikmin on June 13, 2005, 07:07:00 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
I don't see how anyone could have wanted him to go to jail.
I've been a fan ever since I was little and we even share a birthday!


You don't see how anyone could want a child molester to go to jail?  I'm sick of fans of various celebrities being stupidly blind and wanting these people to get off of serious charges just because they provide some sort of entertainment.  Yes, he was found not guilty which just proves that in America you can pretty much do what you want and get away with it if you're famous.  

Oh, and as far as sharing a birthday with him, congrats.  Perhaps he'll invite you over for a special little party.  If you're under 14 that is.

Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: TMW on June 13, 2005, 07:17:26 PM
Or, just maybe, he was innocent.

Only he, those kids, and any higher power that may or may not be there know the truth.  
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Post by: Shift Key on June 13, 2005, 07:38:57 PM
I'm not surprised that he was found innocent - Jackson's lawyers poked enough holes in the testimony of key witnesses to cast doubt on case of the prosecution. That was more crucial than the fact the person is famous.

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I'm sick of fans of various celebrities being stupidly blind and wanting these people to get off of serious charges just because they provide some sort of entertainment.
Thanks Ms.P for saying what I meant to say. Jackson is not a stable person - he's got mental issues that any average person (ie not famous) would be encouraged or forced to seek therapy. I wonder if all these people who put Jackson on a pedestal got that same sickening feeling I did after watching part of the Bashir documentary. Eh, whatever. He might have been a great singer, but he is a total nutter.

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I don't know if he did what they say he did or not, but love it or hate it, he's been "proven innocent."
No. He was found "Not Guilty" of the charges, but that does not make him innocent - no matter how hard you try to close your mind. Innocent != Not Guilty.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 13, 2005, 08:28:41 PM
Someone just needs to find MJ a boyish-looking dwarf of a girlfriend, so he can  pretend that she is a little boy and stop playing with children that are about 1/4 his age.  Whether he is molesting them or not, its just not right.

Would you want you little son spending the night at the neighbors house, even though the neighbor has no kids(especially anywhere near his age)?  Famous or not you wouldn't let that happen, so don't pretend like its ok for MJ just because he is MJ.

I mean your parents always tell you never to take "candy" from strangers, and this guy has the biggest form of "sweets" a kid could ask for, his own Amusement Park!!!!! Ands don't pretend that he is not a stranger, You don't know him and we all know that they don't come much stranger than him.
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on June 13, 2005, 08:30:47 PM
I'm not saying that MJ's not a little messed up in the head, I'm just saying that his music is beautiful and that he didn't do it. O.J. on the other hand. . .
Title: RE:Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: TMW on June 13, 2005, 09:22:42 PM
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Originally posted by: Shift Key
]No. He was found "Not Guilty" of the charges, but that does not make him innocent - no matter how hard you try to close your mind. Innocent != Not Guilty.


Um...that kinda goes against that whole "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" thing.  According to the law, he is innocent of the crimes.  You may not think so, and 10 million other people may not think so, but he is innocent of the charges that were filed against him.  Not just "Not Guilty".
Title: RE:Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: Shift Key on June 13, 2005, 11:11:08 PM
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Originally posted by: TMW

Um...that kinda goes against that whole "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" thing.  According to the law, he is innocent of the crimes.  You may not think so, and 10 million other people may not think so, but he is innocent of the charges that were filed against him.  Not just "Not Guilty".


Considering the massive payoff that happened years ago when similar circumstances arose, I really don't think he's completely innocent.  
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 13, 2005, 11:35:04 PM
Not trying to defend MJ here but sometimes its easier to just pay-off a would-be lawsuit instead of fighting it.  Its not always an admission of guilt (at least not to that charge), but sometimes you would rather bite the bullet instead dragging yourself through the mud.

With the celebrity life it could be cheaper to make a pay-off instead of further discrediting your name by keeping it in the news negatively.
I'm sure you can refer to sometime in you life, where you would rather just let something go (such as w/ a girlfriend) instead of bringing up previously unrelated stuff that you would rather keep buried or "in the closet" so to speak.

I don't know that MJ did anything angainst the law or if he was just paying-off would be harassers that could have been looking for a quick buck, I don't know if he has something to hide or he really is just trying to please the kids, but.......

but I am watching Kill Bill while i typed this over the last 20 or so minutes so I forgot what I was typing about so I'll just end it here
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: ruby_onix on June 14, 2005, 01:09:58 AM
Michael Jackson got off...

... and then a jury said he wasn't guilty!


Seriously though, Michael Jackson has serious issues. Even if he hasn't molested any kids, he's probably just a hairline away from snapping, and doing what he claims to detest. He needs help in a big way, but he's got enough power stored up from back when he used to matter, to wall himself away from reality, and destroy himself even further.

I think Jackson is clearly a pedo, he practically admits it (although he doesn't seem to understand what he's admitting to), and others have probably been put away for less reason. But there really didn't seem to be any "evidence" in this case (things like Jackson's computer got thrown out), and it came down to a "he said/she said" thing. And the defense managed to paint the victim/mother as untrustworthy, and a con-artist (despite their failure to prove it with the big star-power witnesses like Jay Leno). Considering Jackson's money (or "apparent money", since he's supposedly almost broke), can people really say beyond any reasonable doubt that the accusers didn't make it up?


BTW, Jackson's fanboys are a dangerous bunch of freaks. Probably worse than Michael Jackson himself. I saw an interview with a family member of that last accuser, and he was saying that one of the reasons they took the money was because Jackson's fans were threatening to kill them, and they would frequently wake up to find things like rats with their heads cut off sitting in pools of blood on their porch.
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Post by: KDR_11k on June 14, 2005, 02:14:40 AM
Good to see the law do its job. The case should have been thrown out the very moment the prosecution attempted to appeal to the "hearts" of the jury (stuff like "oh, no! I got cancer!", unless Jackson is accused of causing cancer that has NO place in court!). There should be a law against that kind of attempted influence, perhaps a week in jail or something like that. Let the judge ram anyone into the ground who attempts that.
Title: RE:Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: Mario on June 14, 2005, 04:59:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Ms.Pikmin
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Originally posted by: TVman
I don't see how anyone could have wanted him to go to jail.
I've been a fan ever since I was little and we even share a birthday!


You don't see how anyone could want a child molester to go to jail?  I'm sick of fans of various celebrities being stupidly blind and wanting these people to get off of serious charges just because they provide some sort of entertainment.  Yes, he was found not guilty which just proves that in America you can pretty much do what you want and get away with it if you're famous.  

Oh, and as far as sharing a birthday with him, congrats.  Perhaps he'll invite you over for a special little party.  If you're under 14 that is.

I wouldn't say he's a child molestor without proof. There was none, so he's innocent, thus not a child molestor.
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: stevey on June 14, 2005, 06:21:30 AM
"I wouldn't say he's a child molestor without proof. There was none, "

so sleeping with a child, never touching women even when he has kid, copyrighting happy brithday, light his hair on fire, jumping in a tub of bleach, almost thowing his kid out the window think he can fly, and giving :wine: and :bear: and porno to kid isn't proof that his is a crazy child f-ing sob.  
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Post by: Mario on June 14, 2005, 06:39:53 AM
Nope.
Title: RE:Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on June 14, 2005, 07:04:37 AM
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Originally posted by: stevey


so sleeping with a child, never touching women even when he has kid, copyrighting happy brithday, light his hair on fire, jumping in a tub of bleach, almost thowing his kid out the window think he can fly, and giving :wine: and :bear: and porno to kid isn't proof that his is a crazy child f-ing sob.


MJ was a Jahova's (sp?) witness so it was wrong and immoral to him at the time. The fire was Pepsi's fault. His sking was turning white anyway so he desided to bleach it so that he wouldn't have a bunch of big white blotches on his skin. He didn't throw the kid, he just held him up (like the monkey guy at the begining of The Lion King) to present him to his German fans. MJ can, in fact, fly. The rest of it is well, meh.
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Post by: KDR_11k on June 14, 2005, 10:40:27 AM
Insanity is not a felony and quite frankly I'm glad of that. Because the next step would be declaring those who disagree with you insane and locking them away, effectively enforcing thoughtcrime. Or maybe calling homosexuals crazy and throwing them into jail.

And hell, I have never touched a woman in my childhood, does that mean I'm dangerous and must be locked away?
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: Artimus on June 14, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
For me, the fact he had both porn and nude boy books shows he's not innocent sexually.
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: stevey on June 14, 2005, 05:27:19 PM
"And hell, I have never touched a woman in my childhood"

that Ok but being 43 something, having kids, sleeping with boy, dose of fan that whan his baby, never touch one woman, and thinking his peter pan that f*ck up no mater what!
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Post by: CardBoardBox on June 14, 2005, 05:39:11 PM
I agree.  I personally have thought he was always a molestor, but maybe it's just media crap.  Its hard to tell because we don't know the facts (or if the facts we claim to know are true)  I hate how social rank can play a part in court decisions (not saying that it did, but if so, that would suck =/ )  
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Post by: Dasmos on June 15, 2005, 04:04:04 AM
Whoah Stevey! Settle Petal.........

In the law's eyes he is innocent.........and seeing as you are not above the law he should be seen as innocent in your eyes........unless you have no eyes...
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on June 15, 2005, 08:21:33 AM
MJ doesn't actually think that he's Peter Pan. Naming your ranch Never Land doesn't prove anything. Why there was this one guy on VH1 who pretended to be Peter Pan and he was over 50 but damn he was in shape.
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: stevey on June 15, 2005, 09:05:13 AM
yeah! MJ is leaving the us and going down under

"Why there was this one guy on VH1 who pretended to be Peter Pan and he was over 50 but damn he was in shape. "

Key word pretended, MJ is not pretending when at night when he ( I say more but I dont want to be banned plus there really sick)
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: KDR_11k on June 15, 2005, 10:51:12 AM
He believes he's a kid, kids don't do that stuff (at least not the "ideal" kids that MJ wants to be one of).
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Post by: Artimus on June 15, 2005, 12:22:39 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
He believes he's a kid, kids don't do that stuff (at least not the "ideal" kids that MJ wants to be one of).


How many kids do you know who own boy nude books and porn?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 15, 2005, 12:34:28 PM
Now to take this topic and turn it into one big joke!!!!

**DO NOT READ ANSWERS IF YOU CAN"T TAKE A JOKE**
_____**ANSWERS MY BE OFFENSIVE TO SOME**____

Q.  How does Michael Jackson know when it is time to go to bed?

A.  When the little hand touches the big hand.

Q: Why did Michael Jackson place a phone call to Boyz-2-Men??

A.  He thought it was a delivery service.

Q: What's the difference between Michael Jackson and a grocery bag?

A: One is white, made out of plastic, and dangerous for kids to  play with,
and the other you carry your groceries in !!


Q: Why was Michael Jackson spotted at K-Mart?

A: He heard boys' pants were half-off !!

Q: What did the man on the beach say to Michael Jackson?

A: Get out of my sun!!

Q: How can you tell if Michael Jackson has company?

A: There's a big wheel parked outside his house!!

Q: What do Michael Jackson and a Big Mac have in common?

A: They're both 30 year old meat between 10 year old buns!

Q: Who does Michael Jackson consider a Perfect "10"?

A: Two 5 year olds.

Q: What are Michael Jackson's favorite sayings?

1) There's a sucker born every minute.
2) Kids do the darndest things.
3) Tricks are for kids.


Q: What's Michaels' next movie?

A: Honey I Blew the Kid.

p.s. I got all of these +some in an e-mail @ work today
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Post by: stevey on June 15, 2005, 12:58:42 PM
 
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Post by: TMW on June 15, 2005, 01:09:37 PM
I've always like this one.

"What University did Jackson attend?"

Brigham Young

It helps if you say it out loud.
 
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Post by: Ian Sane on June 15, 2005, 01:12:52 PM
I don't think Michael Jackson is a child molester.  I think's he just a really insane guy who has no concept of how reality works.  Basically he thinks like a kid.

It's perfectly normal for young boys to be friends with other young boys.  It's also perfectly normal for young boys to have sleepovers with their friends.  However if a sexually mature full grown man does these things it's considered weird and justifiably so.  One would naturally assume that any man who wants to sleep in the same bed with any child he is not related to is a pedophile.

So if you have a situation where people are likely to assume someone is a pedophile you also have a situation where you can make some easy money by accusing that person of being a pedophile.  It doesn't matter if the person is innocent or not.  They're doing something very weird that only makes sense to them so right away you increase your odds of the jury siding with you.

I don't think Michael Jackson realizes how weird he comes across to the general public.  I mean the guy has an obvious addiction to plastic surgery, he names his sons Prince Michael I and II, and he build a giant facist-toned statue of himself to promote an album release.  The guy clearly has no concept of the real world.  So he does something else that's weird and makes him look like a criminal and someone exploits that.

Though I will agree that Michael got off because he's famous.  I think he's innocent but what he does with boys is so irregular that if he didn't have such a public life people would naturally assume he's a pervert.  If he wasn't a celebrity we wouldn't know about all the other innocent but bizarre things he does and I think that's what saved his ass.  His reputation for being "Wacko Jacko" allows people to assume he's just an eccentric celebrity instead of a pedophile.  
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on June 15, 2005, 01:23:47 PM
Let's not forget that the porn was planted there by the police.
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Post by: stevey on June 15, 2005, 01:37:06 PM
"It's perfectly normal for young boys to be friends with other young boys. It's also perfectly normal for young boys to have sleepovers with their friends. However if a sexually mature full grown man does these things it's considered weird and justifiably so. One would naturally assume that any man who wants to sleep in the same bed with any child he is not related to is a pedophile."

MJ is a pedophile! Pedophile get off from boy even if he dosen't have sex, just getting off being near boys mean hes a pedophile.

"Let's not forget that the porn was planted there by the police. "

Why would the cops plant porn?
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Post by: vudu on June 16, 2005, 08:56:32 AM
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Why would the cops plant porn?
Because he's a successful black man.  Don't you watch South Park?
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Post by: stevey on June 16, 2005, 09:39:55 AM
Yes, I do but that was a joke. You dont know that?!
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on June 16, 2005, 10:54:19 AM
It wasn't a joke.
Title: RE: Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: stevey on June 16, 2005, 11:02:43 AM
Yes it was. The only cop in sc do those thing to blacks, ca. cop don't.
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Post by: Nile Boogie on June 16, 2005, 06:02:06 PM
Cops do stuff like that all the time, well at least in the little town where I'm from.  But what happens here in my town in the Delaware Valley can't possibly be happing all over the United States now could it?
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Post by: ib2kool4u912 on June 16, 2005, 07:39:24 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Now to take this topic and turn it into one big joke!!!!

jokes and shiz

p.s. I got all of these +some in an e-mail @ work today


On a scale of 1-10, how old were the children Michael Jackson molested?

Why does Michael Jackson love twenty-nine year olds?
because there's 20 of them
Title: RE:Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: King of Twitch on June 16, 2005, 09:41:02 PM
The witnesses in this case were obviously questionable, the mother was just crazy. At least a few of the jurors believed he had molested children at some point, but the evidence in this case couldn't prove, presented by the prosecuter, that he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.


in·no·cent
2a. Not guilty of a specific crime or offense; legally blameless: was innocent of all charges.
Title: RE:Michael Jackson NOT guilty!!!!!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 17, 2005, 08:37:18 PM
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Originally posted by: ib2kool4u912


On a scale of 1-10, how old were the children Michael Jackson molested?

Why does Michael Jackson love twenty-nine year olds?
because there's 20 of them
Those are some good ones.  I heard a few more last nite but the guy was zinging them at me so fast that I couldn't commit any of them to memory
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 01, 2005, 05:27:15 AM
Q. What's the worst stain to try and remove from a little boy's underpants?
A. Michael Jackson's makeup.