Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: ThePerm on June 10, 2005, 09:19:41 AM
Title: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: ThePerm on June 10, 2005, 09:19:41 AM
I was wondering what is so innovative about Nintendogs....isn't Hey you Pikachu! tyhe same thing?
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: jasonditz on June 10, 2005, 10:04:13 AM
Quote Originally posted by: ThePerm I was wondering what is so innovative about Nintendogs....isn't Hey you Pikachu! tyhe same thing?
They're only the same in that both use voice recognition. Hey you Pikachu was an adventure game aimed at small children, Nintendogs is a virtual pet simulation that's aimed primarily at adults
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: TMW on June 10, 2005, 11:26:07 AM
And Pikachu never got freaky with any other Pokemon, either.
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: ThePerm on June 10, 2005, 11:37:20 AM
good point TMW...i was justr wanted to raise this discussion so i can find out the similarities..and hey you pikachui is an adventure game? I thought it was a virtual pet game as well.
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: thepoga on June 10, 2005, 02:03:31 PM
That game wasn't very good. Nintendogs is awesome.
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: stevey on June 10, 2005, 04:20:44 PM
"Nintendogs....isn't Hey you Pikachu! tyhe same thing? "
No, in Nintendogs you can touch the dog, make it do tricks, and make it hump other dogs. Pikachu did nothing but make you buy all the cards and made you stuiped.
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: Bloodworth on June 10, 2005, 04:56:00 PM
lol Sorry, I don't believe the dogs actually hump. I was at the conference; they laid on each other in a somewhat suggestive position, but they weren't actively copulating.
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: cubist on June 10, 2005, 06:27:11 PM
My gut feeling tells me that Nintendogs is going to sell like hot cakes here in America. I think we're going to see a craze similar to the Pokemon one (with all of the copycats following).
Back to topic and then back again: Hey You Pikachu! did not sell N64s like Nintendogs is going to sell DS(s). This game will be the DS system's finest hour. I thought I would never say this (being that I'm a fairly grounded gamer), but Nintendogs is a killer app! You can quote me on this or take it to Vegas.
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: MrMojoRising on June 10, 2005, 10:23:43 PM
I'm really curious as what kind of people will be buying Nintendogs if it does take off here. I think the numbers for Japan are like 40% women or something (I hope I'm not making that up...I'll look for the article). I'm really wondering if it will be like pokemon where the majority of it's fans are kids but there are still some older people who like it, or if it will attract more adult gamers, perticularly females.
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: thepoga on June 11, 2005, 03:13:12 PM
Quote Originally posted by: MrMojoRising I'm really curious as what kind of people will be buying Nintendogs if it does take off here. I think the numbers for Japan are like 40% women or something
it's not 40%. It's 42%. Get it right. That 2% could could be the difference between life and death!
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: KDR_11k on June 12, 2005, 01:27:17 AM
Those 2 % wouldn't be important if it wasn't 42, the Answer!
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: jasonditz on June 12, 2005, 08:00:58 AM
Its a little more culturally acceptable in Japan for adult women to play video games though.
It'll be interesting to see if the game is able to smash the considerably tougher barrier in the US.
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: TMW on June 12, 2005, 07:48:45 PM
I know I'll be buying it!
Of course, I got my DS on the day it was released, so I don't think they're worried about my money.
Is there still a cultural bias against women playing videogames in the States? I mean, most of my best friends are girls, and they all play videogames (and routinely kick my ass on every fighting game but Smash Brothers), so if there is a bias, I'm unaware of it in the circles I run in.
Including online.
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: nickmitch on June 13, 2005, 12:45:46 PM
I know a couple of girls would get a DS for Nintendogs. And most of the adults that I know would buy it too.
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: Strell on June 13, 2005, 04:42:11 PM
I'll ask here instead of starting a new thread.
With Nintendogs, do all three versions ultimately allow you to unlock all 18 breeds of dogs, OR, if you want something from one and one from another, are you forced to get multiple versions?
I assume it follows the Pokemon rule and that you can eventually get them all within one cart, but I just want to know.
I want a husky and a corgie and a yorkshire terrier, and I think that covers all three versions. :/
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: Galford on June 13, 2005, 05:38:45 PM
"Those 2 % wouldn't be important if it wasn't 42, the Answer!"
KDR, are you a Douglas Adams fan???
Or should I say
What's the question??
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: TMW on June 13, 2005, 09:04:32 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Strell I'll ask here instead of starting a new thread.
With Nintendogs, do all three versions ultimately allow you to unlock all 18 breeds of dogs, OR, if you want something from one and one from another, are you forced to get multiple versions?
I assume it follows the Pokemon rule and that you can eventually get them all within one cart, but I just want to know.
I want a husky and a corgie and a yorkshire terrier, and I think that covers all three versions. :/
Yes, all the dogs are available in each version. The difference is which dogs are available from the beginning, as opposed to the rest, which are locked.
Rest easy, you only need to buy one copy of the game.
===== On a completely unrelated note, if you take the Ultimate Question to Life, the Universe, and Everything, as derived by Arthur, "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?", and do it in base 13, you actually get "42" as an answer.
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: KDR_11k on June 14, 2005, 01:17:55 AM
DNA replied to that with "Nobody writes jokes in base 13!". C programmers have found out that if you #define SIX as 1+5 and NINE as 8+1 you get 42 if you do SIX*NINE. I believe that is the ultimate proof that humanity does in fact originate from Golgafrincham.
Galford: I'm a computer science student, what do you expect?
What's the question??
Hm, let me think for a while...
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: Strell on June 14, 2005, 08:36:33 AM
Ok I'm reading the Hitchhiker trilogy (or five-ology, depending on how you look at it), and isn't 6x7 = 42 and 6x9 = 54? Or am I completely missing something so simple here that I'm going to look really stupid?
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: KDR_11k on June 14, 2005, 09:38:53 AM
It's from the time that Arthur stands on prehistoric Earth, which is a supercomputer to find the question about life, the universe and everything and now "invaded" by the stupid Golgafrinchams. Since he has nothing better to do he grabs a bag of scrabble letters and tries to get the question out of his subconscious (as he's the human who was the last to leave Earth before it was destroyed and therefore should have the data closest to the answer). He forms the words "What do you get if you multiply six times nine?". Make of that what you want, Arthur comments it "I knew there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe". But if you don't know what it refers to you've probably not read far enough yet and it would be awful to spoil that.
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: Strell on June 14, 2005, 10:04:23 AM
See, thats the thing. I just finished Restaurant, so I know that exact scene. But still, 6x9 = 54....Am I still missing something? O_o
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: TMW on June 14, 2005, 10:22:47 AM
What you're missing is base 13.
I'm an english major, so I'll let KDR, the CS guy, explain that for you.
Title: RE:Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: Strell on June 14, 2005, 11:18:23 AM
Heh, I'm an English major too, started with CS. So I know a little about bases but it's been forever since I've done anything with them.
Oh well.
Title: RE: Pikachu vs. Nintendogs
Post by: KDR_11k on June 14, 2005, 11:18:40 PM
Base 13 would mean every digit has 13 possible values (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B) and digits are 13^n in value. Base 10 would be ten possible values per digit (0-9) and each digit being "worth" 10^n, the decimal system. Base 16 is hexadecimal and base 2 is binary. I don't think DNA was thinking about base 13, especially since he himself stated he wouldn't make jokes in base 13. Actually I don't think 42 was supposed to be the correct answer to the question Arthur drew, leaving many possibilities to interpret the scene. Is it because the computation was incomplete? Is it because the Golgafrinchams interfered? Or is 6x9=42 a comment about the universe itself or at least making fun of math? Or is what Arthur drew not even related to the Question? It's much deeper than it would be if the question and answer matched.
