Post by: Mario on May 27, 2005, 09:28:21 PM
Well, he talks about GBA and GC as well, but the Revolution stuff is interesting.
A quote that jumped out at me
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Well, I think certainly being wireless out of the box is revolutionary. People sort of picked on us for not jumping in prematurely into online or Internet gaming, but we just looked at it, the way it was evolving, and just felt that it was not time to jump in. But certainly with the next console it would be, with a couple of important changes like eliminating the access fee so there's not really a monthly subscription, and making use of first-party games, downloadable for free.
First party games downloadable for free? That'd be AWESOME! I'd download EVERYTHING.. but there has to be a catch.. doesn't there? I mean, that's too good to be true. Later on he mentions that first party games would be free for online gaming... but third parties were a different story, which makes me think that was a misquote and he didn't mean first party games downloadable for free, he meant first party (Revolution) games playable online for free. Also, he mentions that old games would be used as unlockable features in Revolution games, but there would be no point in doing it like that if you can just download the game for free...
What do you guys make of this?
Post by: Luffy1Piece on May 27, 2005, 09:44:47 PM
Post by: Rocketsastrostexans on May 27, 2005, 09:49:42 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on May 28, 2005, 08:08:39 AM
I'd expect them to offer a few games for free to get people interested (since downloadable games is nice and all but some would like a few games to come with their console). Most will cost money unless their makers say they'd prefer those games as freeware.
Also, I wonder whether NoE will try to combine online and the stars catalogue.
Post by: nickmitch on May 28, 2005, 09:19:18 AM
Even so I still would.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 28, 2005, 11:04:33 AM
Post by: nickmitch on May 28, 2005, 11:31:04 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 28, 2005, 11:33:02 AM
INDUSTRY CRASH.
Post by: BigJim on May 28, 2005, 12:01:53 PM
Post by: Epitaph on May 28, 2005, 01:29:00 PM
Post by: Switchblade Cross on May 28, 2005, 01:40:01 PM
Total size = 128 MB
I also have 741 SNES ROMs
Total size = 970 MB
I think we'll all have plenty of space.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 28, 2005, 06:12:34 PM
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 28, 2005, 08:33:16 PM
I can see one potential annoyance with free promotional downloads. When people buy a Rev if they download any games Super Metroid is easily going to be one of their first. So then what if later Nintendo includes Super Metroid with Metroid Prime 3? That's kind of a bummer. The really good games are going to be popular downloads yet the really good games are what logically makes sense for promotional downloads. So what's the ideal way of handling that? Personally I think for promotions it should be more general like "pre-order and get a free download." They could highly suggest specific titles by offering reprinted instructions of the "intended" classic game. So if you pre-order Metroid Prime 3 you get a Super Metroid manual and a card with a number that says "use this to download Super Metroid or any other of the following titles." So the promotion is clearly based on the classic game but the option is there for people who already have it.
Post by: Pale on May 28, 2005, 08:51:27 PM
The good thing about making something free is that it really requires no tech support at all. If people screw something up and/or can't figure out how to download what they want, its not like they are going to get THAT angry, knowing that they are getting it for free.
Boy, if this is true it would sure be a big change for Nintendo though. I also think they would sell a TON of Revs. I would be a little bit worried about this lowering there game to system sales ration quite a bit though, but is that a bad thing if it happens because system sales are going up rather than game sales going down?
Post by: Savior on May 28, 2005, 09:00:36 PM
Post by: Caillan on May 28, 2005, 09:37:17 PM
Pre-order bonuses wouldn't be a problem. You could maybe get a demo of an upcomming game or a slightly reworked version of an older one. Like Master Quest. Besides, there's other things they can do except just give out games. I mean, with Harvest Moon you got a giant inflatable cow. How awesome would a giant inflatable mushroom be?
Post by: MrMojoRising on May 28, 2005, 10:52:36 PM
Post by: jasonditz on May 29, 2005, 07:48:23 AM
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Originally posted by: Pale
To be honest, I kind of expect them to all be free. Trying to manage downloadable games is a complete and total headache that I wouldn't want to take up. I mean... I can't just see the phone calls from angry people who want to redownload a game they already paid for. Also, knowing Nintendo's stance on piracy, making these games downloadable to a card that can be easily read by a computer sounds like a bad idea if they are intending to make people pay for them.
It'll be tough to manage, but the potential profit margins are staggering. Having the same guy who talked to all the people who ruined their GBA by improperly installing an Afterburner talk to the same people who accidentally formatted their SD card when they were trying to get their Windows PC to read it is probably good enough. Keeping an account with a record of what they've paid for and allowing them to redownload it isn't that big a problem, and probably worthwhile too.
Plus an encrypted SD Card is not easily read by a computer. Its actually quite a pain in the ass.
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The good thing about making something free is that it really requires no tech support at all. If people screw something up and/or can't figure out how to download what they want, its not like they are going to get THAT angry, knowing that they are getting it for free.
True, but if its done properly, its a chance to really cash in on those titles once and for all. If you had a reasonable pricing scheme, you're going to make hundreds of dollars off of a lot of people with almost zero delivery costs. There's no reason tech support should be so high it makes the system unworkable.
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Boy, if this is true it would sure be a big change for Nintendo though. I also think they would sell a TON of Revs. I would be a little bit worried about this lowering there game to system sales ration quite a bit though, but is that a bad thing if it happens because system sales are going up rather than game sales going down?
That's why I more picture this as a "beat Metroid Prime 3 in under 20 hours, get a unique code to download 2 free SNES titles" kind of situation. Their profitability depends on selling software, so any giveaway scheme has to be designed not to cut into that.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 29, 2005, 07:52:20 AM
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Besides, there's other things they can do except just give out games. I mean, with Harvest Moon you got a giant inflatable cow. How awesome would a giant inflatable mushroom be?
Let's not extend that example to the DoA games, 'k?
Post by: Renny on May 29, 2005, 08:13:06 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 29, 2005, 02:12:36 PM
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Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 31, 2005, 11:37:55 AM
Post by: jasonditz on May 31, 2005, 11:44:32 AM
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I will bet you anything that if Nintendo charges money, the games will be pirated.
So? People still pirate MP3s, that doesn't keep iTunes from making money.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 31, 2005, 01:12:37 PM
It'll be TOO tough to manage, especially with the inclusion of 2 USB drives.
I'm sure Nintendo knows this, so I'm guessing 1st party games will be free (as well as 2nd/3rd party due to pirating).
Post by: KDR_11k on May 31, 2005, 08:55:31 PM
