Post by: notic on May 27, 2005, 01:39:43 AM
Post by: Dasmos on May 27, 2005, 03:58:03 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 27, 2005, 05:29:19 AM
For that matter Microsoft or Sony could pay Sammy/Sega enough for them to do the same for their systems...and it would be a pretty powerful counter-attack for Sony or MS to do.
Personally, I wish Nintendo could have bought Sega or could make a deal like this with them, because Sega 8-bit and Genesis has some great games that are highly underrated. However, Sega past the Genesis years hasn't been the same.
Post by: jasonditz on May 27, 2005, 05:57:28 AM
Post by: BigJim on May 27, 2005, 06:12:49 AM
I didn't stick around for the 32X though. Heh.
Post by: ThePerm on May 27, 2005, 11:03:38 AM
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 27, 2005, 11:07:14 AM
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 27, 2005, 12:05:27 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2005, 12:06:07 PM
What if Nintendo not only got SEGA to allow downloadable games from SMS, Genesis & Saturn, but also got the same from Turbo Grafix 16/CD.
Wouldn't that be more likely likely to happen, considering that NEC hasn't been making games for sometime now and isn't trying to milk their old titles w/ collection releases?
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but why stop there? why not get NeoGeo and all their arcade releases to allow D/Ling too, along with the now extinct 3DO, CDi and Jaguar?
Post by: jasonditz on May 27, 2005, 01:15:20 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2005, 01:45:37 PM
not that I really know how it all works, but it sounds possible and plausible to me
Post by: jasonditz on May 27, 2005, 02:19:59 PM
Compression might help some, but I'm not sure how well you can decompress-and-run when you don't have enough ram to load the entire thing. It'd be more reasonable to just let the drive read such discs and offer the emulator itself as a download option.
Post by: nickmitch on May 27, 2005, 03:36:44 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on May 27, 2005, 04:04:57 PM
Personally, I think Nintendo should just get a wide assortment of classic CD-based games re-issued and sold online, perhaps through whatever system you use to buy the Revolution downloads of the cart-based games.
It's unreasonable to expect someone to start running off new NES/SNES/N64 carts, or to cutsom build them on demand. It's not unreasonable to stamp out new TG-CD/Sega CD/Saturn CDs, or to burn them on demand.
BTW, it's a good idea, and makes all the sense in the world, but you just know Nintendo's not going to do it, right?
Post by: jasonditz on May 27, 2005, 04:29:51 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2005, 05:30:36 PM
I got a whole system that would seem to work all in my head but I don't feel like typing it out. It involves purchase tickets that you bring back to the machine (10-15 minutes later) after the burn is complete to claim your game, and stuff like that.
Post by: ruby_onix on May 27, 2005, 06:17:39 PM
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What would they have to charge to make it worthwhile to stamp all these new CDs? If they can do it cheaply you'd think someone would've already cashed in on the comparative scarcity of, say, Panzer Dragoon Saga for the Sega Saturn or Popful Mail for the Sega CD.
A re-issue of a CD-based game is really cheap. If they sell online and avoid the retail chain, the costs are even lower. Even for a really small (or even "custom") printing, I can't see it costing more than ten bucks. So selling it for anything over that would be pure profit.
The problem is, companies don't think that you can sell in big volumes on a game that has already passed, so they don't think it's even worth their time to even think about it. Fans? Hah! They're meaningless windbags. You can get $200 out of some guy on eBay? Big deal. The company doesn't want $200. They want $2,000,000.
Then there's also any licencing problems, as most older contracts have expired and need to be re-negotiated. And the rights-holders demand to know exactly how many copies of the game you expect to sell, up-front, before they sign anything. You often hear about some companies having to make certain "commitments" about sales levels, otherwise they have to pay penalty rates to the rights-holders.
Of course, all of those problems apply to the download system Nintendo's already working on. The only difference is that re-issued CD games would deliver something hard and tangible to you, and might cost ten bucks more than whatever the downloads are going to cost.
One thing's for sure though, and that's that none of this would be happening without Nintendo's "Classic NES Series" putting dollar signs into people's eyes.
(BTW, if Nintendo does arrange to re-release games for old CD consoles (which I doubt they will), I'd want them to be playable on their original hardware. Even if I'd never play them that way. Unless they're "enhanced" for the Revolution.)
Post by: Mario on May 27, 2005, 08:47:39 PM
