Post by: Jonnyboy117 on May 23, 2005, 06:11:02 PM
I would really appreciate your comments on our E3 coverage this year, on everything from press conference reporting to impressions coverage and media accessibility. Did we cover all the games you wanted to learn about? How did the Bit Torrent work for you? What would you like to see next year? (Don't say DVD, that's always under consideration anyway.)
Thanks in advance!
Post by: RABicle on May 24, 2005, 04:56:02 AM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on May 24, 2005, 05:05:49 AM
More of that would be nice and quick for everyone.
You covered the important stuff, and even some of the stuff we didn't know about (who knew there was a Pocket Dogs amidst all the Nintendog craziness).
Post by: Mario on May 24, 2005, 05:10:33 AM
Honestly, PGC was the only site I needed to visit to keep up to date with E3, with the exception of IGN who i just leeched videos from (bit torrent makes my computer explode), so I think you guys did a great job all round.
Hmmm.. next year, I don't know if this is possible but it would be REALLY good if PGC put up their own live stream of the Nintendo Conference.
(DVD! DVD!)
Post by: Shift Key on May 24, 2005, 05:38:54 AM
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Hmmm.. next year, I don't know if this is possible but it would be REALLY good if PGC put up their own live stream of the Nintendo Conference.
I'll jump aboard that bandwagon. Both Gamespy and IGN Insider streams decided to fail for me(by fail I mean one had no picture but perfect sound, the other was the opposite) once the show started (staying up until all hours just to see the show made me quite annoyed on top of that) so I was left to curse while trying to understand what all the other pietriots were rambling on about in the massive MSN chat we had going while the conference was on.
And I'm rambling ... apart from that it was great coverage. I think you guys got to every game I was interested in, and then some. Keep it up.
Post by: vudu on May 24, 2005, 08:56:05 AM
In the future, when someone in the forums beats you to a news story by a significant amount, rather than create a separate talkback thread can you just link to the existing thread? It becomes confusing when you have to follow two threads regarding topics such as the Game Boy Micro. This is especially import for products/games (as opposed to news stories) because discussion on those can last for several weeks/months. It just annoys me when we have a good discussion going and the thread is locked 40 posts into it because a brand new thread was added in the Talk Back forum. (I don't believe anything like that happened this particular E3, but I can remember times in the past when it did occur.)
Other than that, everything here at PGC is peachy-keen. Cheers.
[For the record, "significant amount" is dictated by number of posts in the existing thread, not a length of time.]
Post by: BigJim on May 24, 2005, 09:17:48 AM
The primary recent example I can think of was the first Revoultion news (about DVD playback and being 3 DVD cases in size). There was a good 20-post thread going before it was locked and we had to move our comments over to Talkback. And then the Talkback thread was gone due to the disappearing thread bug. Then we had to start over for a THIRD time for some reason rather than re-open the pre-existing thread.
The thread locking can hurt the Revolution forum since everything is news right now. Let us burn her in. PGC isn't quite as fast as it used to be with some of the news, so I would ask to loosen the noose on news posts.
Additionally, my personal preference would be to remove Talkback altogether and make the bot post the news item in the correct forum, but that's neither here or there.
As for E3 coverage, it was pretty good and thorough. PGC wasn't quite "real-time" on the updates, but once the info was posted, it was solid.
Post by: Pale on May 24, 2005, 09:51:22 AM
IE.
The Zelda booth was unbelievable. I personally couldn't believe how immersive it is.
or...
The gameboy micro is cool and all but it really doesn't bring enough to the table. I can't figure out why Nintendo wouldn't add things like the play-yan to the package.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on May 24, 2005, 10:25:05 AM
Blogs would be fun, at least for E3, but we have fairly limited online time while in L.A., so we try to focus on the hard coverage whenever we do have access. If we had our own "War Room", we could do a lot of cool things like that.
Post by: NotSoStu on May 24, 2005, 10:59:52 AM
And how!
-How did the Bit Torrent work for you?
Worked perfectly. I've been using BitTorrent (Well, BitTornado) for a while and I think it's possibly the best idea for a program in years. In fact, here's an idea... Perhaps PGC and other sites that have peoplegoing to E3 could collaberate with eachother and, perhaps, put together torrents of screenshots and videos and things so as to conserve bandwidth. But as I said, just an idea. No, not an idea, a pipe dream, since I know it's physically impossible for sites to collaberate with each other.
-What would you like to see next year?
A) Perhaps some more media. I'm no graphics whore, but screenshots and videos can make a major difference in the way you view a game. For example, when I read your Sonic Rush impressions, I just thought "meh." When I saw the video, it felt like I was having... a.... a little secret "Yay Sega!" party.... in my head.... Don't ask.
B) Possibly, just possibly, the BitTorrent idea I posted above.
C) You said no DVD.... But how about an HD-DVD?
Post by: Shecky on May 24, 2005, 12:48:34 PM
Post by: miedo on May 24, 2005, 01:22:48 PM
Post by: StrikerObi on May 24, 2005, 01:37:08 PM
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Originally posted by: miedo
I didn't see Bittorrent. I just used IGN's handy "Search" feature. I probably should see how it looks, but you can't get any worse than Gamespot. Small videos and bad quality, unfortunately.
Anyway, I did like your coverage, as it pretty much covered every game there. I did wish there was a completely seperate page where all E3 articles were on a divided list (alphabetically...please?). It doesn't need to be as complex as some bigger sites(Gamespot, IGN), but at least something so that I don't have to go scrolling through history.
There is
http://planetgamecube.com/event.cfm?action=profile&id=76
Post by: Robageejammin on May 25, 2005, 08:13:24 AM
One thing that I would have liked was maybe an interview or two. They are just as important as the conference itself really. Every interview I've read or seen gave out new information that wasn't told until asked. I would really love to see some interviews, maybe even caught on tape for the bittorent.
It seems that next year there is going to be a huge focus on games just like in 2002...*coughDVD*. This year, you did a really great job of getting screenshots for almost every game announced so kudos for that. I really hope that continues for next year. Plus, if Smash Bros is playable, I'd love to see some hands on footage of how it really plays. There are some things that trailers just can't capture. Gameplay footage for games could really make PGC even more unique than everyone else.
Also, I think its about time now for a new Blah Blah Blah. The last "roundtable style" one was just amazing. I would love to see more of that in the future.
But really great job guys, keep it up. I think alot of us are as faithful to you as we are to Nintendo, which says something
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 25, 2005, 11:14:11 AM
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One thing that I would have liked was maybe an interview or two. They are just as important as the conference itself really. Every interview I've read or seen gave out new information that wasn't told until asked. I would really love to see some interviews, maybe even caught on tape for the bittorent.
Actually, you probably have already read information from an E3 interview already found in one of our previews, such as our New Super Mario Bros. and Animal Crossing DS preview updates, both based on an interview with Mr. Tezuka. I love reading/hearing interviews as much as you, but often the audio is too unclean to post or accurately transcribe. I did my best to help promote quality audio recordings this year, but often things are simply out of our control. Sometimes the information found in an interview is best conveyed in a summary or with extra tidbits not found in the actual interview, anyway.
Post by: - NintendoFan - on May 25, 2005, 11:29:51 AM
Post by: vudu on May 25, 2005, 12:13:45 PM
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 25, 2005, 12:50:18 PM
So from what I'm seeing...
- people love teh BitTorrent
- more video would be nice
- interviews posted as news stories would be appreciated
Keep'em coming...
Post by: vudu on May 25, 2005, 12:55:40 PM
QuoteNo, you got that wrong. Everyone loves it but me. That's important to mention.
So from what I'm seeing...
- people love teh BitTorrent
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 25, 2005, 01:39:36 PM
I agree with Mario that you guys do the best impressions in town. I don't want a preview like the other sites give- I want information, but most of all I want how the writer really felt about the game. The opinions of the staff, at least game-wise, are very similar to my own, so I find the personal impressions here especially helpful.
So yeah, I give it a thumbsup.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on May 25, 2005, 03:18:44 PM
I too would like to see a lot more BitTorrent videos next year. ;-)
Post by: Robageejammin on May 25, 2005, 04:40:25 PM
I really think the bittorrent is a great idea even though I didnt really use it. People are saying they want more videos but I dont really think PGC is meant to be a huge media source. It might be too much effort to get everything in sight online and for no reason since I can just check IGN for that stuff anyway. What I would love to see though would be either video of the staff's impressions as a group or maybe video from Nintendo's booth (no sound necessary) just overlooking the surroundings maybe with peeks at Shiggy or Charles Martinet passing by. Come to think of it, last year I managed to get some footage of Mr. Martinet with me at an empty space near a wall clearly saying "hey! you-a number one!" on tape. Anyway, something more unique for the bittorent would be really interesting.
Post by: - NintendoFan - on May 26, 2005, 12:01:14 PM
I am glad to hear that you liked the idea. Because really, I think it made the site much smoother then it had been in past E3's. And I am looking foward to it next year.
Post by: Bloodworth on May 26, 2005, 06:46:21 PM
Post by: BigJim on May 29, 2005, 05:10:17 AM
E3 is no longer useful as a trade show.
While it obviously smells of bitterness because he wasn't blown the instant he entered a booth (and I never heard of this site until recently either), I think he got it right for the wrong reasons. Every last Best Buy/Walmart/EB/GameStop/TRU/etc schlub shouldn't be able to get through. If nothing else, media should be able to have their own day or two, and then let "the rest" in for another day or two once the relevant business is done.
It sounds like it's degraded into a complete freaking zoo. Someone in their forum thread said Zelda had a 3 hour wait. That just shouldn't be happening. It wouldn't be surprising if at some point companies give up altogether on E3 in favor of GDC or some other new event.
Post by: Bloodworth on May 29, 2005, 12:09:19 PM
Post by: RABicle on May 31, 2005, 06:04:08 PM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on June 01, 2005, 08:58:44 PM
Anyway, this guy clearly knows little to nothing about how Nintendo PR works. If you know anyone at all there, you can easily get something as basic as a press kit or a quick entry into the DS/Zelda/whatever area. However, he does have a point in that Nintendo may not be so welcoming to a media source they don't know, even if said media source is sizable and influential. That goes for other companies too, some much worse than Nintendo. The Big N could certainly use as much PR exposure as possible, but they do have limited resources at such events, so realistically, they have to draw the line somewhere. I'm sure if this guy approached the media desk with the right attitude and the right credentials, he could have gotten whatever he needed. Apparently he had neither.
Post by: Mario on June 06, 2005, 11:45:10 PM
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I'll never understand why people put a 'g' in 'whine'. See it all the time though.
Whine and whinge, too different words, but they practically mean the same thing. Some people wonder why people keep leaving the g out of whinge.
