Post by: Rhoq on April 11, 2005, 08:18:41 AM
Read the full article on MSNBC.
Post by: Savior on April 11, 2005, 09:04:31 AM
Post by: Pale on April 11, 2005, 10:17:14 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 14, 2005, 05:42:07 PM
IGN.Xbox
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On 5/13, the Japanese press (this includes us, strangely) will be invited to the Virgin Cinemas in Roppongi Hills, one of Tokyo's most chic areas (Square Enix unveiled Final Fantasy XII at this theater a couple of years back). Microsoft will be holding an invite-only event called "Next Generation Xbox Preview" at the theater starting at 11:30AM. The event will continue until 1:50PM -- a full two hours and twenty minutes!
We expect the first thirty minutes of the event to feature an airing of the MTV premier, but that still leaves almost two hours of mystery content. Perhaps the press will be given a closer look at the system leading up to E3?
Looks like MS is really trying to make sure Xbox succeeds in Japan this time around.
Post by: nickmitch on April 16, 2005, 07:30:31 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on April 16, 2005, 10:07:37 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 16, 2005, 11:23:38 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 16, 2005, 11:38:16 AM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on April 29, 2005, 04:01:45 PM
Post by: vudu on May 12, 2005, 04:33:31 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 12, 2005, 04:38:20 PM
Luckily I'm on the west coast so the east coast people can be guinea pigs.
Post by: Savior on May 12, 2005, 04:44:29 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 12, 2005, 04:51:05 PM
Oh wow, I just saw them. What an embarassment.
Are they TRYING to convince me not to buy an X360?
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 12, 2005, 04:55:58 PM
The videos they showed....even if the games are still in development, they are horribly underwhelming. Even if the real power lies elsewhere in the system, the truth is the majority of the Xbox crowd cares mainly about the graphics, and so far I've been seeing stuff that the current generation can pull off.
*flat voice* "Dawg, I'm excited boy. Are you excited? I'm excited. This stuff is IN. This is the shite bitch. Representin. Get down bitch bitch sass bitch bitch. I wish I were black."
Edit: Holy crap, is that.....Frodo?! How sad ;___;
Post by: Savior on May 12, 2005, 05:00:51 PM
im effectively off the Xbox360 hype train... ill probably buy one when the price drops or something.... oh well
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 12, 2005, 05:03:31 PM
Post by: Artimus on May 12, 2005, 05:03:41 PM
But the game will stick be awesome, i'm positive!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 12, 2005, 05:06:43 PM
A bunch of programmers whose mission is to milk Microsoft for 2 game console generations is not what I view as a talented developer.
Post by: Savior on May 12, 2005, 05:10:24 PM
Post by: Luigi on May 12, 2005, 05:14:29 PM
Post by: Bartman3010 on May 12, 2005, 05:14:38 PM
Plus no backward compatibility? Isnt that suicide?
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 12, 2005, 05:15:54 PM
Strangely enough, the reverse psychology is working on me. I'm not convinced the games will actually look that bad... I'm willing to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt and assume the games will look about 5 times better when they're released.
Post by: Savior on May 12, 2005, 05:18:25 PM
unless they delay it... which wouldnt suprise me, but it would mean the 360 would loose its only launch killer App...
this 2005 thing will bite them
Post by: BlackGriffen on May 12, 2005, 05:18:31 PM
RickPowers, you called it!
BG
Post by: mantidor on May 12, 2005, 05:22:44 PM
I hope for the game to be awesome despite the lack of effort behind those graphics...
Post by: BlackGriffen on May 12, 2005, 05:24:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Savior
If Rare can somehow pull a miracle in 6 months id be shocked...
unless they delay it... which wouldnt suprise me, but it would mean the 360 would loose its only launch killer App...
this 2005 thing will bite them
Hah! How can Rare not delay? Remember that the games from them that were mentioned, Kameo and PD0, were supposed to come out for GameCube at or near launch.
I wouldn't be surprised, frankly, to see them bumped back to Microsoft's next console: XBox sqrt(-1).
BG
Post by: Ian Sane on May 12, 2005, 05:25:18 PM
That felt good. I think I'll say it again.
Perfect Dark 0 looks like f*cking sh!t.
Weeeeee!
This is as I expected. MS has jumped the gun on going to a new console and there's no wow factor. With every console except the PS2 I've been really impressed with my first look. I'm not impressed here. There's no desire for more info. It's just whatever. Those games look good and the changes to Live sound good but it's not a big enough leap. I feel much more confident now in Nintendo. I think the ball is in their court and they just have to not f*ck up and they should be able to compete pretty well against this. If the Rev concept is actually cool and worthwhile it should be an advantage provided Nintendo doesn't screw something else up, like having weaker graphics or something.
PD0 looked a lot better when it had that anime look. They've made it generic. It's now Halo with a chick and Xbox doesn't need another Halo.
Of course I thought the original Xbox didn't have the games and MS didn't have the know-how to compete with Nintendo and Sony and they more or less kicked Nintendo's ass everywhere but Japan. I'm certain the Rev will be better than this (if's it not it's got to be a complete piece of crap) but marketing and how the public responds to this is the unknown factor. I'm not wowed but I'm not Microsoft's target market either.
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 12, 2005, 05:29:41 PM
I'm willing to bet that PD0 won't actually look that bad. Maybe they just put placeholder graphics while they worked on gameplay?
Post by: Savior on May 12, 2005, 05:37:03 PM
Post by: Caliban on May 12, 2005, 05:38:01 PM
Post by: ThePerm on May 12, 2005, 05:48:27 PM
Post by: Caliban on May 12, 2005, 05:53:45 PM
The people in this "unvieling" of the xbox 360 video that they have at gametrailers.com are soooo lame. Microsoft has yet to make my eyebrow twitch in surprise of something new or innovative. I say xbox360=xbox v1.01. I know in this vid they don't show any footage however if they think they can get more people to buy "it" with this type of info-vid than I sure hope Nintendo does oppposite of what Microsoft does.
Post by: Savior on May 12, 2005, 06:03:35 PM
pretty sad when the highlight was a band...
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 12, 2005, 06:09:36 PM
Post by: Shecky on May 12, 2005, 06:36:15 PM
The controllers appear to be bluetooth....
Hence why the system would have a "wireless binding button".... also, "up to 4 controllers can be bound"
Also, the system still has an ethernet port, so you would need a ethernet wireless bridge to connect your 360 wirelessly
Post by: Pale on May 12, 2005, 06:41:21 PM
Post by: mantidor on May 12, 2005, 09:03:02 PM
Post by: ThePerm on May 12, 2005, 09:05:03 PM
Post by: BigJim on May 12, 2005, 09:57:32 PM
Whoopie.
If PD0 is their big launch title, they've got a problem.
What's the biggest difference between Silver and Gold Live (other than the price)? I'm not really clear on that.
Post by: Famicom on May 12, 2005, 09:57:37 PM
The games were the most underwhelming thing. Besides that one racing game (I couldn't catch the name because all the footage was being cut so fast), none of the games really look next-gen worthy. The framerates looked very smooth, but there was no wow factor. And then there was PD0. YIKES. The new look was very disappointing. It seems contradictory that a spy would have big frilly red hair. And the game was very unfinished at this point. IMO they were better off not putting that on TV at all. An E3 crowd could be potentially wowed by such an early reel, but the MTV watching consumer I doubt would really care.
Call me oldschool, but there's no way anyone can't see through this mainstream pandering. A half hour analysis on G4TTV or something similar would have seemed a bit more realistic, but I guess that's not the demographic MS is shooting for. The problem is, with what they had to offer I don't think ANY demograpic would be very impressed.
EDIT: Oh and I forgot to mention, did anyone else get a good laugh out of how their gaming timeline totally glossed over every important event before MS entered gaming? I realize it's not good to promote your competition, but they showed Atari and the Genesis, yet no NES, SNES, PSX, PS2? Only box pictures of Donkey Kong and Super Mario Bros.? "First there was Pong, then Atari came out, then through the 80s and 90s some sh!t came out, THEN CAME XBOX." Felt incredibly fake.
Post by: Savior on May 12, 2005, 10:10:57 PM
I wish they would make Rev titles too..
Post by: Mario on May 12, 2005, 10:13:00 PM
That Tony Hawk game looked worse than Tony Hawk Underground on GC. Perfect Dark Zero was embarassingly pathetic from what they showed (which wasn't much), which pretty much throws out any chance of me buying an Xbox 360. I thought Ghost Recon was the best looking game, too bad it's Ghost Recon though.
EDIT: Alright, there's a high chance PD0 will be fun, but from what I can see right now, it doesn't look like it's worth paying a million dollars on an Xbox 360 for it. (more like Xbox 404)
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 12, 2005, 10:17:40 PM
That's just ridiculous. For graphics that crappy the framerate should be smooth...
Good to see Rare devastated a console's framerate before it even came out though.
Post by: Arbok on May 12, 2005, 10:17:58 PM
Perhaps MS put their foot down, and told Rare to work at a normal pace to get PD0 out as a launch title, and this is what the result of Rare not taking forever on something is.
Post by: Famicom on May 12, 2005, 10:19:25 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2005, 10:58:49 PM
GameSpot.com
Post by: mantidor on May 13, 2005, 05:07:06 AM
well, The gears of war game looks amazing, but Ive read it has so far a pathetic framerate, I havent seen the trailers so I wouldnt know, is it true?
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 13, 2005, 05:18:30 AM
Post by: BigJim on May 13, 2005, 06:17:03 AM
It takes skill to make an interview segment with Rare a complete waste of time.
Seriously, MTV must have been in charge of directing/editing the show. There's nobody else in TV that'd think it was a good idea to show mere seconds of product footage, but have 2 full music performances. And have a game tournament with more CROWD shots than in-game action shots.
But who really wants to see the game in progress when we can just watch the crowd count down to zero as time runs out?
All image, no substance. MTV's calling card.
Post by: couchmonkey on May 13, 2005, 06:19:36 AM
I agree that there's no way I'm putting hundreds of dollars into an Xbox 360 to play games that only look marginally better than Xbox titles. Even the shots from Ghost Recon and Test Drive, which look quite a bit better than PD 0, don't leave me all that impressed. More and more I feel like Nintendo has the right idea - graphics aren't going to leap ahead that much this generation. Maybe the general public will still buy into the 360 for the minor graphical upgrade it offers, but from my point of view, the system fails to justify its existence (so far).
Post by: hudsonhawk on May 13, 2005, 07:13:43 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 13, 2005, 07:36:37 AM
Gee, I wonder why they wouldn't show THOSE consoles.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2005, 09:13:07 AM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
There is another replay on the 15th at 9 AM. Warning: Record it so you can keep your finger on the fast forward button.
Why? I have a link to all the videos that were shown on the special HERE. Nothing else on there was worth watching. If you want to see a much better hypemercial look for the 'TheColony' link on Page 6.
Post by: vudu on May 13, 2005, 10:21:05 AM
QuoteFrom what I understand Silver lets you do everything on Live other than play actual games. Meaning you get to do just about nothing worthwhile. If you want to play games, you gotta pay for a Gold account.
Originally posted by: BigJim
What's the biggest difference between Silver and Gold Live (other than the price)? I'm not really clear on that.
Post by: hudsonhawk on May 13, 2005, 10:25:18 AM
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[From what I understand Silver lets you do everything on Live other than play actual games. Meaning you get to do just about nothing worthwhile. If you want to play games, you gotta pay for a Gold account.
Silver does let you play games - but only on weekends. Gold gives you anytime access. Source.
Post by: Grant10k on May 13, 2005, 11:05:08 AM
Changeable Faceplates They are turning Console games into Nokia cellphones.
Chat online with your actual picture Hearing voices are bad enough, I don't want to see pictures of people's genitals as well (you know it's going to happen)
Better Graphics I'm just assuming here, I never really saw any footage
Every game must be in high def As if that wasn't going to happen anyway, all this will do is piss of devs
New xbox live community
Watch video trailers for upcoming games They are turning it into cellphones WITH V-CAST (the most ironic part about this is I was watching this clip on a modded xbox
Every game must be live aware now that's just stupid, injecting a a virus like LIVE into a normally healthy single player game (I KNOW PaLaDiN is against this idea)
Nearest I can tell, every marginally good idea they had, modded xboxes can already do. They even talk about customization in the clip "make your xbox 360, YOURS"
Post by: Artimus on May 13, 2005, 11:07:55 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 13, 2005, 11:29:04 AM
I'm more concerned about online play in general.
Post by: nemo_83 on May 13, 2005, 01:01:47 PM
It is kind of funny to see them scatter like ants.
Post by: Grant10k on May 13, 2005, 02:42:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Grant, Live aware means it keeps your stats and stiff amd adds to your profile, not that it has to have multiplayer.
WHO TOLD YOU MY REAL NAME!!!!!
but seriously, I figured that a single player game woulnt' have multiplayer, but I just don't think there is a point to being 'aware' within the game itself. For example, if you are playing a PC game you can still get instant messages. They could have a small program always running in the background (they could even make it built into hardware) that tells you that a friend wants you to stop playing your game because he's bored and wants a partner. I just don't want to recreate the playing-a-game-on-the-PC-and-hit-the-windows-button-and-die-just-before-a-save-point effect on a console. But I guess it's not a horrible idea, I just hate playing a game and AIM decides that it's more important then interrupts me (that's the reason I use MSN messenger, it dosn't pop up infront of what i'm doing). I realize that they won't let that happen, but it's still nagging at me.
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 13, 2005, 02:47:53 PM
So I'm confident MS isn't stupid enough to make the same mistake twice.
Post by: Deguello on May 13, 2005, 11:48:39 PM
This MTV special actually happened, right? I mean. I didn't just hallucinate that whole 30 minutes, right?
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 14, 2005, 05:25:03 AM
