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Title: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: StrikerObi on December 15, 2004, 06:29:43 AM
Movies and Music on your GBA.

While third parties have previously released devices to allow GBA owners to play music and movies on their hand-helds, Nintendo has stayed silent on the issue. A new listing on the company's website reveals that Nintendo will be releasing their own media reader for the GBA in February 2005.


Nintendo's preview website for the product explains that their media reader will play both MP3 audio files and MPEG4 movies. It will read them off of Secure Digital (or SD) cards. The reader should also be able to play on the Nintendo DS, which also plays GBA games.

Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Plugabugz on December 15, 2004, 06:42:40 AM
Having replied to a similar topic in the DS forum, it's even more logical that Nintendo create a device that works with both the DS and GBA. However I doubt cartidges / media cards will become widely available to facilitate the use of this, thus it leads me to believe Nintendo are looking at a workaround.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Ian Sane on December 15, 2004, 06:42:54 AM
Wait a second.  I thought Nintendo was "game only".  That "no DVD player" stuff regarding the Cube certainly sounds like a lame excuse now.  If they don't want to put DVD playback in the Revolution that's fine but they're going to need a real excuse this time.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Plugabugz on December 15, 2004, 07:09:33 AM
Before Nintendo didnt necessarily have a reason to do so. Third parties created them, plus the GBA was the only sucess story in the handheld market.
Now it's recommended so that the DS "can do as" the PSP, matching all it's features [bar the poor battery life] plus the extras on top that the PSP cannot.
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 15, 2004, 07:28:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Wait a second.  I thought Nintendo was "game only".  That "no DVD player" stuff regarding the Cube certainly sounds like a lame excuse now.  If they don't want to put DVD playback in the Revolution that's fine but they're going to need a real excuse this time.

Stop complaining about every little thing...This is only an option for those who are thinking about getting a PSP for media capabilities...
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Artimus on December 15, 2004, 08:24:03 AM
If it uses SD cards then it's no different than the PSP's cards.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: vudu on December 15, 2004, 08:42:54 AM
I've read on other websites that this will be a Japan-only product.

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If [Nintendo doesn't] want to put DVD playback in the Revolution that's fine but they're going to need a real excuse this time.
How about the added cost?  That seems like a real excuse.  You can get a stand alone DVD player real cheap these days.  Hell, I got a free one in my breakfast cereal the other day.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Ian Sane on December 15, 2004, 08:56:59 AM
"How about the added cost? That seems like a real excuse."

It IS a real excuse.  That's what I want to hear.  Not "we only concentrate on games" or some lame spin doctored excuse that only applies when they want it to.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: vudu on December 15, 2004, 09:40:20 AM
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It IS a real excuse. That's what I want to hear. Not "we only concentrate on games" or some lame spin doctored excuse that only applies when they want it to.
Keep in mind, the GameCube design was finalized over 3 years ago.  What held true then, may not hold true today.  Nintendo is a company that makes video games.  But it's entirely likely that they realize that many people out there would like to be able to use their systems for other things besides playing games.  It's even possible (though I doubt it) that Nintendo realized its mistake prior to the GameCube's release, but it would have taken far too long to redesign it to play DVD's.

Does this mean we're going to see a Nintendo-branded personal organizer for the DS?  I doubt it.  A third party can just as easily create one that's just as good (if not better) than what Nintendo could do.  But I think Nintendo knows that third-party hardware is a completely separate beast.  Most third-party hardware (controllers, memory cards, etc) sells like crap compared to officially licensed items.

EDIT:  I just thought of an even better excuse for Nintendo to exclude DVD playback.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember reading that the GameCube's laser reads from the center of the disc to the outside (instead of the conventional outside to in) and the game discs spin in the opposite direction from conventional standards.  Wouldn't adjusting the laser and the spinner to go both ways make the GameCube prone to breaking (a'la the PS2 laser)?  Just a thought....

EDIT #2:  Apparently Nintendo just announced a dictionary/translator for the DS.  So much for my argument that Nintendo was making the add-on because it was hardware, not software.
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: joshnickerson on December 15, 2004, 09:41:35 AM
Nintendo should have a nice quote on the Revolution box...
"If you want to watch DVDs, just go buy a DVD player. Seriously, they're cheap as hell. Like 20 bucks a pop. You'll still be saving money by buying the player and this console than buying just a PS3 or Xbox2."


But seriously, where will this put Majesto and their GBA Video series?
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: MattVDB on December 15, 2004, 09:48:06 AM
"Nintendo enters the movie industry"  Remember hearing that, oh, about a month ago?  Yeah, their excuse for not putting a DVD player in was two fold.  They initially said that the gamecube was to be a game machine, and they put that in its name.  What people don't like to remember, is that there was a time where that changed, and they expressed their concern over the cost of adding a DVD player.  They let Panasonic release one though, because it was their overhead.  After a little bit, aparently, somebody didn't like the sound of money being the issue, so they went back with what they originally started with, and that was that they wanted the gamecube to be focused on games.  

I may be mistaken, but I don't seem to recall Nintendo saying that as a company they were only focusing on games, but they applied that to individual systems.  

Either way, I think this is an awesome idea, and is really holding sway in me picking up an SP or DS.  I think it was a wise move to cater to both the GBA and SP market, effectively draining Sony of half of the appeal to the PSP.  With such a large GBA userbase, I don't see how many people would prefer to pay 200 dollars, base price, for a PSP to play MP3's or MPG's when they could just buy this.  Wise movie.  Wise move indeed.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Procession on December 15, 2004, 10:10:39 AM
This is a smart move and a good deal - it's just a shame they didn't do it 3 years ago.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Artimus on December 15, 2004, 10:58:54 AM
If Nintendo doesn't want to fall into this tiny disc size again they'll have to go with BluRay.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: brian577 on December 15, 2004, 11:10:36 AM
I read on IGN that it will only work on the SP, what gives!  I am not going to go out and pay $70-90 just so I can listen to MP3s or play videos, not to mention the cost of the reader and memory cards.  I was going to consider getting one, but not any more!  Nintendo should provide better support for their products.  The GBA's not an older system, it plays the same games and has the same capabilities as the SP.  Just because the design is so much different dosen't mean they can't make it work!
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: joshnickerson on December 15, 2004, 11:14:39 AM
I don't see how it could only work on an SP unit. The SP and the original have the exact same hardware.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: brian577 on December 15, 2004, 11:17:18 AM
It's probably the power port, some acessories make use of it, effectivly making the GBA obsolete when it comes to new periperals.
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Nephilim on December 15, 2004, 11:31:54 AM
looks good
only problem i can think of is the sd card sticking out really far, kinda like perfect dark plugged into a gba

*cant wait to watch tekkaman eps at work all day lol*
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: nickmitch on December 15, 2004, 11:35:13 AM
It'd be an extremely dumb move to not let it work on the DS. 'Cause it's DS vs PSP with most people making it not work on the DS is just stupid.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: UncleBob on December 15, 2004, 11:58:53 AM
The question is... (and I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet...)

What are the odds of the DS using an SD card for saving data for online games...  (like a hard drive)...?

Just a thought...
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Berto2K on December 15, 2004, 12:03:09 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
If it uses SD cards then it's no different than the PSP's cards.


Actually its cheaper.  The Sony Memeory sticks are expensive as hell compared to SD cards.  The memory sticks are also required for game saves, which takes up some room unless you put it on another stick.  This will be soley for a/v.  Nothing with games.
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: MattVDB on December 15, 2004, 12:14:01 PM
Umm.  I don't know where you read that it will only be compatible with the SP.  Here is what they say in their article...

"Although Play-chan was announced by Nintendo as supporting the Game Boy Advance, it's also compatible with the DS. Only one screen is used for display, though. The standard Game Boy Advance is not compatible with the product."

It works with the SP and the DS.  Alright.  I can handle that.  That isn't too shabby, as personally, I doubt I would use my AA batteries to watch movies like this.  With the rechargable batteries, I wouldn't mind it.
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: UncleBob on December 15, 2004, 01:03:23 PM
>The standard Game Boy Advance is not compatible with the product.

I think he's reffering to that it doesn't work with the non-SP version of the GBA...
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: MattVDB on December 15, 2004, 02:23:37 PM
Sorry.  Reading back over it, that's correct.  I thought he was saying that it works with the GBA only, and wouldn't work with the DS.  My apologize.
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: theRPGFreak on December 15, 2004, 02:39:30 PM
Smart move Nintendo
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2004, 05:53:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Berto2K
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Originally posted by: Artimus
If it uses SD cards then it's no different than the PSP's cards.


Actually its cheaper.  The Sony Memeory sticks are expensive as hell compared to SD cards.  The memory sticks are also required for game saves, which takes up some room unless you put it on another stick.  This will be soley for a/v.  Nothing with games.


A SD Card @ 1gb will run you $65 at Fry's Electronics

A Sony MS PRO @ 1gb will run you $379 at Fry's Electronics

So if you ask me....... I think there is a HUGE difference
Title: RE: Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: Nile Boogie on December 16, 2004, 04:03:31 AM
I like the idea of a media device but I would perfer if they made a standard model and one that was made for the ablities of the DS. If this is really in response to the PSP than leaving out both screens and touch I belive is half-assed. Go big or don't go.
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: novastar512 on December 16, 2004, 08:45:40 AM
I hope nintendo does this right and bring it to North America, and if I can get gigabyte disks cheap this would be so worth it.  I dont' really want a GBA DS since I think only Mario 64 is the only realy good game I want now, and I was going to get a PSP because it had mp3 capabilities......
but now I can turn my GBA in my mp3 player too sweet.

JUST BRING TO TO NORTH AMERICA NINTENDO.  
Title: RE:Nintendo Plans Official GBA Media Reader
Post by: SgtShiversBen on December 16, 2004, 09:06:00 AM
There already is a way to make your GBA into an MP3 player.  They sell the hardware for like 50 dollars and it seems pretty legit.  I'm not sure exactly who made it or anything, but it's there.  So yeah.