Post by: jmoe316 on December 13, 2004, 05:36:47 AM
Looks like we may just get an RPG after all. Some people say it will just be PC2, but all those screens are looking like an RPG. Of course this could just be like PC where there is an RPG mode alonside the colloseum mode. Guess we will have to wait and see!
EDIT: \/ \/ \/ Really? Link works for me. Well here is the link to the thread: Link
Post by: odifiend on December 13, 2004, 06:32:30 AM
Post by: Pale on December 13, 2004, 07:03:13 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on December 13, 2004, 07:17:45 AM
We're NEVER going to get a real full 3D Pokemon RPG. I've just come to accept it. When it comes to Pokemon Nintendo is like EA. As long as stupid f*cks will buy half-assed Pokemon product Nintendo will never make something worthwhile because they don't have to. And by the time the crap stops selling Pokemon will be so milked and so unpopular that financialy it wouldn't make sense to make any more Pokemon games, even good ones.
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 13, 2004, 07:42:05 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 13, 2004, 07:49:53 AM
But I'll be optimistic. It seems to me from the graphics that Nintendo is working on something other than graphics.
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 13, 2004, 09:02:59 AM
However, it's definitely too early to tell anything. It's three screenshots or something. That's hardly evidence that it even exists.
Post by: Truthliesn1seyes on December 13, 2004, 09:10:18 AM
Post by: joshnickerson on December 13, 2004, 10:16:47 AM
But yeah, it's too soon to really tell. I never even heard about this until now. I will agree with the folks on the GA forums that the game really should be cel-shaded and have voice acting. At least have the Pokemon say their names this time!
I honestly would like to see Ash star in a new game myself. Perhaps make the entire game like a separate "episode" of the TV series.
Which reminds me, I really should finish Colluseum sometime. LOL
Post by: Pale on December 13, 2004, 12:41:01 PM
That being said, I'm sick of assuming nintendo will do stuff when a lot of things point otherwise....case in point, why the hell don't we know anything about the DSs online/demasked capabilities? Why does the DS not show any sign of being able to support these things? And why would they want to wait until the american psp launch? Don't the feel the announcment would affect Japan?
Color me confused....and doubtful...
for today anyway...
Post by: ruby_onix on December 13, 2004, 01:38:57 PM
Right-click on the link, select "copy link location", and paste it into your address bar. That worked for me.
Post by: Mario on December 13, 2004, 03:24:21 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 13, 2004, 04:04:02 PM
Post by: odifiend on December 13, 2004, 05:35:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
it durs not hav graphx 7.9
Seriously, they aren't even trying... on a billion selling franchise. I wish they'd just cel-shade.
EDIT: BTW, those who can't see the pic, can head over to IGN to get a glimpse. That dude matches his Zangoose - cute? (Zangoose should not be cute! >=/)
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 13, 2004, 06:52:35 PM
Post by: odifiend on December 13, 2004, 07:14:48 PM
Anyway if this is a Collosseum game, it will likely suffer the same weakness of its predecessor, reliance on the gameboy for connectivity.
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 13, 2004, 07:40:38 PM
And the word "IF" is the ****ing problem here...I'm sick of whiners bitching about games that haven't been properly revealed...There's a HUGE difference between saying "Man, I hope this isn't like Pokemon Colosseum" and "OMG IT LOOKS LIKE COLOSSEUM! IT WILL SUCK!" JUST...STOP...
Post by: Rob91883 on December 13, 2004, 10:51:30 PM
Post by: Truthliesn1seyes on December 14, 2004, 03:57:37 AM
What if the graphics are low budget in order to allow a huge world to explore or to allow a vast amount of onscreen activitiy to take place.
No one knows how this will play out but I for one am expecting more than just a sequal to collosseum. I believe the last game was flirting with the idea of an rpg and was used moreso as a testing ground. It was mentioned that Nintendo is working with one or more big name companies on this pokemon game. I doubt Nintendo needs outside help to develope another rehash Collosseum game.
Basically Nintendo has upgrade their games (ever so slightly) with each successful sequal. Right now the question I'm asking myself is how big of an upgrade is Nintendo trying to do with its new Gamecube pokemon game, are they just going to expand on the sidequest rpg mode or make it a full blown rpg. The fact that Nintendo is working with another company on this game makes me think that something more is being planned. Anyways, I'll reserve judgement on the graphics when the game is closer to completion and I can see it in video or something.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 14, 2004, 01:59:07 PM
He's wearing a freaking CUT-OFF.
DUDE.
New screenshots of Kirby GC on the left there...
Post by: BlkPaladin on December 14, 2004, 07:28:06 PM
And I wouldn't complain about the graphics since the games the head of the group made didn't have any where near graphically acclaim at the time they were made.
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2004, 08:44:46 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 14, 2004, 08:54:53 PM
People complaining about the graphics: 6.
People complaining about people complaining about the graphics: 3, 4 if you stretch it.
People complaining about people complaining about people complaining about the graphics: 1 (Mario).
People complaining about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about the graphics: 1 (PaLaDiN).
Sorry, I had to do it. I'm anal like that.
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2004, 09:14:11 PM
Graphics / Game Engine = not the same thing.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2004, 09:30:33 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 14, 2004, 09:43:54 PM
So you're telling me most of the people I counted as complaining about the graphics were actually talking about the game engine of a game nobody has played?
Thanks for proving my point, which is that people here are bitching about nothing.
I guess that means I've moved from the "people complaining about people complaining about the graphics" to the "people complaining about people complaining about nothing" group.
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2004, 09:44:12 PM
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2004, 09:45:12 PM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"Graphics / Game Engine = not the same thing."
So you're telling me most of the people I counted as complaining about the graphics were actually talking about the game engine of a game nobody has played?
Thanks for proving my point, which is that people here are bitching about nothing.
I guess that means I've moved from the "people complaining about people complaining about the graphics" to the "people complaining about people complaining about nothing" group.
All I see are people who are disappointed because it looks like Pokemon Colloseum, not because it has bad graphics...
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 14, 2004, 10:01:38 PM
So where's this "graphics" debate you mentioned then subsequently backpedalled away from?
I hope you're not actually taking this seriously, by the way.
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2004, 10:20:27 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 14, 2004, 10:29:27 PM
How do we word the question in a way that won't bias the answers? Methinks we need to hire an impartial arbiter to pen it for us. And voting should be anonymous to reduce peer pressure. And we need combinational water and fire elemental helmets to remove the effects of random Pikmin. If the fire doesn't get them, the water will.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 14, 2004, 10:39:32 PM
"IS IT GOING TO BE A FREE ROAMING ONE LIKE WE'VE WANTED SINCE FOREVER?"
"Dunno maybe lol secret"
"OOOOH, I'M VERY EXCITED!"
A FEW MONTHS LATER
"Hey guys we've got screenshots of the new Pokemon game for GameCube!"
"IS IT THE FREE ROA-... oh, it's not. Again"
"LOL TRICKED YOU ALL AGAIN"
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 15, 2004, 03:33:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
All I see are people who are disappointed because it looks like Pokemon Colloseum, not because it has bad graphics...
I already had this argument with you onrine...
Being disappointed because a game LOOKS like another is the worst way to judge a game...EVER...
Post by: Pale on December 15, 2004, 03:53:05 AM
Post by: Shift Key on December 15, 2004, 04:05:44 AM
blol, make fake rumours on this enternit, everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions
Post by: Truthliesn1seyes on December 15, 2004, 10:15:31 AM
Post by: Pale on December 15, 2004, 10:17:09 AM
And see my previous posts as to why I think the generic sequel is slightly more likely...
Post by: Ian Sane on December 15, 2004, 10:32:46 AM
If you assume that everything is going to be super awesome then you're going to be disappointed a lot. I think just the fact that it looks exactly like Pokemon Colloseum, which was a huge success financially, suggests that there's a very good chance it will be a direct sequel. There's no evidence whatsoever to support it could be something else. It COULD be I suppose but with what we've seen the odds of it being Pokemon Colloseum 2 are REALLY good.
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 15, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 15, 2004, 10:55:06 AM
Nobody's assuming the game is going to be super awesome. There's people assuming the game is going to suck and there's other people (like me) telling them not to assume. We're arguing the same cause for different sides.
"There's no evidence whatsoever to support it could be something else."
I don't think you're being very fair. What about the whole "strong allies" thing?
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 15, 2004, 11:54:18 AM
Don't be hypocritical, because there's absolutely no evidence to support your case either... =P
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 16, 2004, 12:11:03 AM
What? Seriously.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 16, 2004, 02:07:36 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
You're wrong.
People complaining about the graphics: 6.
People complaining about people complaining about the graphics: 3, 4 if you stretch it.
People complaining about people complaining about people complaining about the graphics: 1 (Mario).
People complaining about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about the graphics: 1 (PaLaDiN).
Sorry, I had to do it. I'm anal like that.
Haha! You said anal.
Post by: Rob91883 on December 16, 2004, 05:04:27 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on December 16, 2004, 05:19:11 AM
Post by: Nephilim on December 16, 2004, 06:43:38 AM
instead of inventing another boring evil gang, even aqua and magma were yawn
1 thing they shouldnt
add another element or stat, gamefreaks shouldnt turn into square, stat whores
were u can exploit lame stuff
Post by: jmoe316 on December 17, 2004, 09:08:14 AM
i agree 100% with Bill. No one here should assume the game will be a Pokemon Colosseum sequel. i am not saying that it is definately an RPG, I am saying I don't have a clue what it is, but don't assume it's a sequel. Why? Because we haven't been given ANY INFORMATION!
And all this garbage with "Oh it looks like Pokemon Colosseum so it must be Pokemon Colosseum". If I showed you a screenshot of Mario what would you think? Super Mario Sunshine? Mario Golf? Mario Party? Mario Tennis? Mario Baseball? See where I am going with this? Those games look similar but are completely different games. You can't tell what a game will be just by a few screenshots.
Lastly, about the graphics looking crappy - It's to be expected early in development. They have like a year (or whenever they are going to release it, but it aint gonna be near future) to improve on it. Every game starts out looking that bad. They are most likely focusing on more important mechanics right now. Games always vastly improve in graphics from when they are first shown to when they go gold. So can we end this "grafx suxx0rs" arguement before I have to pull out images of Ocarina of Time when it was first announced on the N64?
Post by: Mario on December 17, 2004, 02:23:56 PM
*bangs head against wall*
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 17, 2004, 02:41:00 PM
Here, have a cookie.
Post by: Pale on January 11, 2005, 04:08:26 AM
From the-magicbox
QuoteGranted this is MagicBox who post about every rumor, and I've never heard of game gossip....but it still looks to be correct...seeing as it would be shortly after pokemon emerald comes out... =(
GameGossip reported that Nintendo will release the second GameCube Pokemon battle / RPG game Pokemon Colosseum II in July in US.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 11, 2005, 08:58:24 AM
