Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Pale on December 12, 2004, 11:37:31 AM
Title: F*CK EBGAMES
Post by: Pale on December 12, 2004, 11:37:31 AM
To further prove to you why I hate these stores...
So my sister and her boyfriend walked into ebgames in syracuse, NY and picked up a ds and a game and brought it up to the counter....
The salesman then said, "That will be 280 dollars with our 2 year service plan, extra game, and solid case."
They then said, "No thank you, we will take just the system and this game"
The salesman then responded with "I'm sorry, we can't see it to you then."
after some arguing they were asked to leave the store...
What is wrong with the f*cking public....why do you all purchase these rip off service plans? Just take care of your crap...I worked at circuit city and hated selling them... THEY ONLY HURT THE CONSUMER!!
I'm never purchasing anything from ebgames again...EVER.
Title: RE: F*CK EBGAMES
Post by: Pale on December 12, 2004, 12:02:21 PM
Ok, in a more calmed down version of myself, lets add another facet to this topic. Where do you buy your games and do they pull crap like this? Lets begin a search for the ultimate place to pick stuff up. So far in my experience the best balance of selection and as*hole free salespeople seems to be the Game Crazy stores you find inside Hollywood video... At least I'm sticking with them or a department store for now until I find something better.
Title: RE: F*CK EBGAMES
Post by: Bloodworth on December 12, 2004, 12:16:21 PM
My local GameStop tried to sell me a one year warranty, which I found hilarious when I read that Nintendo's warranty already covers it for one year. Still, they run a good store, and I just saved like $70 the other day picking up some used games since they had a buy 2 get 1 free sale on top of the normal member discount.
Title: RE:F*CK EBGAMES
Post by: Hooboo on December 12, 2004, 03:11:17 PM
I shop at willow video everything there is cheaper and they dont have pesky sales people, plus they never try to sell you stupid deals like those.
Title: RE: F*CK EBGAMES
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 12, 2004, 03:29:34 PM
Places that nobody's ever heard of do tend to be cheaper, hooboo.
I use the Internet - that's where you find deals without rip-off service plans...
Title: RE:F*CK EBGAMES
Post by: joshnickerson on December 12, 2004, 03:32:57 PM
The only time a store tried to wring more money out of me for games was Toys R' Us, offering me a replacement plan in case any of my games were "damaged". Dude, if my games are damaged when I open them, I'm getting a refund, no matter WHAT. Oh, and Best Buy is famous for ramming you with service plans. I ended up paying 100 bucks extra for a monitor because of all the plans they added on. I really didn't realize it until I'd left the building.
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 12, 2004, 05:49:38 PM
When I bought a DS at Best Buy i just quickly grabed a DS box and Mario 64DS when they tried to sell me cases and useless crap I just proceded to the long cash register line.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: UncleBob on December 13, 2004, 01:41:56 AM
I seem to remember this post with a different title.
Anywhoo, yeah, the crew at the local GameCrazy are great! Highly reccomended!
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Caillan on December 13, 2004, 02:21:28 AM
My local EBGames consistently try to rip me off with preorders and trade-ins. Pathetic things like adding $10 on to how much the initial deposit is. I normally wouldn't go there anyway, but because they get their games straight from Australia they can evade Monaco's peircing talons, sneaking reasonable quantities of Good Games past Monaco's disdainful eye. None of the employees know anything about the Cube (small talk: "have you played Metroid Prime? I heard that's good."), or really any other console, and they have a strange, unexplainable inclination towards curt and rude behaviour (one guy kicked out my friend because he kept on asking to buy the Zelda bonuc disc seperately.) I've seen a second hand game selling for more than four times what they payed for it, but they sold Skies of Arcadia (a very rare game indeed here in PAL land) second hand for only $80 (that's 55USD, most new games are 90USD.)
Normally, perhaps, the rise of another compeditor might have some positive effect in promoting competition by threatining to break the existing monopoly, but one must remember that matters are never quite normal when dealing Monaco Corps. You might at first suspect (expect, even) that even the most standard of proceedures might be initiated to combat the competition - marking down old games, introducing player's choice, not selling GBA titles for over twice the US retail price - but nay, Monaco look down upon said tactics as their market shrinks ever more. As they typically only send about half the requested units to retail stores anyway, there'll most likely be a brief period in which the stores that haven't been run out of business by EB will recieve a larger proportion of their requests, but I'm sure Monaco will catch up sooner or later. At best, they'll drop the distribution contract, and no games at all will enter the country for a brief period until Atari picks it up, at worst they'll keep the contract but cull the distribution area to Auckland.
NOTE: I actually don't know how much of this is NAL and how of this is Monaco, but I was suffiently pissed off to to ignore this at the time of writing.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: KDR_11k on December 13, 2004, 05:48:22 AM
My only bad experience with EBGames so far was when I bought LoZ for the GBA, the idiot at the counter hands me the game, clearly rewrapped "See? It's even in the original packaging!". They even forgot to wipe their saves. I tend to avoid EB since they are on my list of "untrustworthy companies". Though that almost sounds like there are many EBs over here. I've seen two so far, both too far away to be of any interest to me. Generally, I try to go with Media Markt, though Karstadt has become really agressive lately (if I hadn't a DS, Wario Ware and Kururin Squash! on order from an importer already I'd have bought Prime 2 there today...). GBA games go for 35€ there, that's the same price as PC games (translation for US Americans: bargain)!
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Ian Sane on December 13, 2004, 07:35:08 AM
"I shop at willow video everything there is cheaper and they dont have pesky sales people, plus they never try to sell you stupid deals like those."
Wow, someone else on this board shops there? Cool. It's easily the best place in my area to buy games but it doesn't really help anyone to recommend it if they don't live in the lower mainland of BC.
So PaleZer0 would EB actually NOT sell them the DS unless they purchased the service plan? It pisses me off enough that they push it on you but it is unacceptable to force customers to purchase it. Is that even legal?
I don't know who buys these things anyway. Every time I'm in EB (though I really have to question why I'm in there in the first place) and I see someone buy a system they always turn down the service plan. Why do you need a service plan for something as cheap as a videogame system?
"I'm never purchasing anything from ebgames again...EVER."
I've said that a lot but somehow there's always that one game that none of the other stores get and EB gets like one copy in (Midway Arcade Treasures I'm looking at YOU) and I have to go there. I make sure to look really irritated when I go in there.
Fun fact: the above mentioned Willow Video not only has a more knowledgable staff than EB but they're better looking too. The mainstream sh!t store has a bunch of fat losers working there while the hardcore gamer store doesn't! Explain that.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 13, 2004, 08:13:57 AM
"Fun fact: the above mentioned Willow Video not only has a more knowledgable staff than EB but they're better looking too. The mainstream sh!t store has a bunch of fat losers working there while the hardcore gamer store doesn't! Explain that."
The people who buy Halo 2 and GTASA probably fell for McDonald's hype as well.
I've got 2 EB's near me... one is 5 minutes walking, the other is 5 minutes by bus. If the walking one gives me any sh!t I just go to the other one. Most of the people there know me by now though, so they don't try to give me any.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: vudu on December 13, 2004, 11:20:26 AM
Quote My only bad experience with EBGames so far was when I bought LoZ for the GBA, the idiot at the counter hands me the game, clearly rewrapped "See? It's even in the original packaging!". They even forgot to wipe their saves.
I had a similar situation when I purchase a "new" copy of Sands of Time for GC from gamestop.com and they sent me a used copy that had been re-shrinkwrapped. I was going to bitch and moan, but since it was only $19.99 w/ free shipping, I decided to let it slide. However, in the future, if I can get the same price somewhere else, I'm going to avoid gamestop.com.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Pale on December 13, 2004, 11:42:35 AM
Yeah ian, they were told that the DS's were "only sold as part of our bundle" And that bundle ran 130 dollars more..it included a 2 year service plan, 1 game, an extra pack of syli, and a case for the unit.
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: G3cyco on January 04, 2005, 07:33:13 PM
dont blame the celrk at EB. I work at gamecrazy and I was told only to sell a DS if the costomer bought a MVP card (20 extra bucks). some old people got mad and left, but the next people in line had no problem with it.
I'm figuring they had to keep their IPT (items per transfer) high
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: raptorspike on January 05, 2005, 02:17:20 AM
Well, to answer the original question, I buy my games and stuff at walmart or amazon if I can't find it at walmart.
I have decided never to buy at Gamestop, because I had to spend 30 minutes arguing with them to return a item that was broken when I opened it.
G3cyco, I don't think that the deal Gamecrazy has is that bad. If the adults shop are going to shop there a lot for their kids, the MVP card will save them money.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Pale on January 05, 2005, 03:09:55 AM
Man, don't tell me that G3, now I have to start hating game crazy as well....
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on January 05, 2005, 02:04:16 PM
That game crazy thing isnt that bad though. All you'd have to do is not a buy a game when you got the DS and the card the come back in and use the card to get your game. Thats a huge difference then paying $130 for something you don't want.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 05, 2005, 02:19:59 PM
Yeah...I'm not sure how known this place is, but there're two FX: Special Video Game Exchange stores in my area. Easily the best place to rent/trade/buy games around here.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 05, 2005, 02:24:58 PM
I buy my games at Gamestop.com, EBGames.com, occasionally at Wal-Mart and occasionally at KB Toys.
I do all of my shopping on the Internet if I can (Amazon.com I love you). I hate salespeople, and I certainly don't need any help for video game stuff. The last time I bought something at EBGames it was my DS, and I never got any kind of hassle. But then, I'm usually about 10 years older than the clerks.
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: G3cyco on January 11, 2005, 09:47:21 PM
oh, we only did it with that one DS. because we have to sell a certain amount of cards a day. plus, I get 4 dollars commision of each card I sell.
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on January 11, 2005, 10:23:17 PM
Quote The people who buy Halo 2 and GTASA probably fell for McDonald's hype as well.
making generalizations about people who buy popular games is genius
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Babyboy8100 on March 13, 2005, 11:36:02 PM
guys let me tell you my story of why i hate EB,Gamestop well right before the DS was launched here i went to gamestop to see a playable demo even though i was skeptical about going in there i still did a got to the DS played it and i liked it so when i asked the guy "excuse me when are you guys going to start selling the ds?" i asked, then he said to me have you seen the PSP? i then looked at him like if i wasn't interested IN A psp then i reply if i wanted one i would of ask you about it right? then he replies why are you getting a DS there's no good games out there and the graphics dont compare to the PSP plus you can play Movies&MP3's on it as well, then i felt the urge to bitch slapped him so he then could answer the question i had asked...then i felt like this idiot is just a drone like alot of people out there that need to be educated on what quality means, so then i said to him if i wanted to watch a movie i got a dvd player in my house, car ,office if i wanted to hear mp3's i got a dell jukebox with 40gig and all i need the DS to do is to play games i told him, he then came up with have you seen GT4 or MGS i said i have but i'm not impress why would i want to play straight ps2 ports of the same games with just little extras thrown in? then he looked confused thinking of what else to say, then he said you know its not to long before we see a portable GTA on the PSP! i just laugh i said when the PSP gets Zelda,Mario,Metroid or even Halo for that matter i will buy one but until then can you PLEASE!!!! answer MY F'N QUESTION?? then he told me the date,price and games then i said thank you cause i aint going to buy here thats for sure he looked at me upset cause he could'nt change my mind about it like they do to alot of people i think thats bad bussiness cause they and i mean they cause gamestop and Eb are bias sony is always perfect according to them, but the guy in discourages everybody trying to buy a DS man they should just be neutral and give you as much information on what you need as posible maybe if i ask for a differnt system or his opinion then i would nt have anything to complaint. say no to GAMESTOP cause thats where my game buying stops..... sorry for the long reply guys im bored its late and i felt like i needed to get this of my chest LOL....
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: oohhboy on March 14, 2005, 05:16:49 AM
Sounds like buying games is becoming a quest in itself.
The EB guys in New Zealand are ok, but I wouldn't buy from them in the first place. Thier stuff in general is more expensive and any deal from them are rip-offs in one way or another.
The worse thing in New Zealand is that the exchange rate has shifted to 68 cents to the USD for like years (From 50 cents) and game prices across the board refuses to drop.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: KDR_11k on March 14, 2005, 05:59:05 AM
oohhhboy: That's the same it is in the entire non-American world.
Babyboy: I know I'd be VERY close to snapping if someone reacted to my question like that. You know, if I was considering a PSP at that point and he tried to get me with MGA, GT4 and GTA3.4 I would have lost all interest in the system.
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: darknight06 on March 14, 2005, 10:47:35 AM
As I've stated in another thread, I don't know about the other EB's, but according to a couple of friends of mine that used to work there they told me that the primary reason they do stuff like that is because they have to meet a specific quota. Depending on the circumstances with the employee not meeting the quota could either get you in trouble or fired. This was exactly how one of them was given the proverbial boot.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: PJ gamer10 on March 14, 2005, 02:52:57 PM
Yeah its true guys.In my store (EB Games) we don't like to throw any of those things on people but we really do get crap from our higher ups. I wish all of you can come to my store. Out of four guys two of us are big Nintendo fans and usually get into arguments with our customers. If any of you live in the New Jersey area stop by Garden State Plaza. We'll talk for hours. Again though don't get hard on some of the guys that work there, they just have to meet certain goals.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 14, 2005, 03:08:31 PM
EB offered me one dollar for Dave Mirra BMX 2. They were selling it new for $4.95, and pre-owned copies were anywhere between $30-$50 AUD.
EB make sense. What's going on in this thread?
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Babyboy8100 on March 14, 2005, 08:33:43 PM
oh yeah they did that to me when i bought wrestlemania the first one one gamecube i paid $50 bucks i went to gamestop all i got was 10 dollar credit i was like WTF!! but i wanted to get rid of it so i said to the guys in the store who ever want this $20 bucks take it right now i rather sale it and lose but i know someone else will enjoy it more than to sell it to gamestop so they could sell it for $40 bucks used at least that kid that i sold it to he got a good deal .
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: PaLaDiN on March 14, 2005, 08:55:25 PM
"making generalizations about people who buy popular games is genius"
It was a joke.
Hah! I doubled your one-month response time!
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Pale on March 15, 2005, 06:40:08 AM
I went into gamestop last night to pick up katamari, I asked if they had gotten dk:jb or touch and go in yet, they said not till tomorrow, then argued with me for 10 minutes about why i need to preorder. EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP PRE ORDERING STUFF! I'm so sick of getting pestered about it.... Ya know the t-shirt that says "No I don't want the strategy guide?" Well now they need to make one that says "I don't want to preorder anything so SHUT THE HELL UP!"
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: UniversalJuan on March 15, 2005, 07:25:46 AM
As a GameStop employee myself I must ask that you all simply stop the one sided nature of this conversation. Not all EBs and GameStops are like the ones you go to! It angers me to no end constantly hearing all the moaning and whining and then taking it out on every GameStop and EB in existance. I have news for you people, words and phrases like "most", "almost", and "just about" exist for a reason!
Stop all the grouping and generalizing is all I'm asking really because for the most part I agree with you all but just please recognize 2 things. 1, that there are exceptions, and 2, we are told to make these pitches. (Note: I am not defending the idiots who don't comprehend the word no. When I make my pitch I only keep talking if they're interested, otherwise no means maybe try to make a quick convince but usually just shut up and finish the sale.)
I'm done with my little rant, just please try to understand the other side of the spectrum too, unless you have to regulary deal with idiots who fail to have a grasp on the English language.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Pale on March 15, 2005, 07:30:21 AM
My generalizations come from working in retail. I know for a fact that garbage like talking people into pre orders comes down from the top. I also know that several stores in the area do the same thing. I will grant you that this *could* be a regional thing but it definately isn't a single store doing it. I can almost picture the store meetings where the managers discuss what corporate wants the clerks to peddle this week. Thats corporate retail for you... and I challenge you to deny that.
By the way, if anyone wants to start bashing circuit city, I can probably confirm everything they say as fact..... Go ahead, ask me something...
Edit: Jeez pale, read the guys entire post..
I see that you are acknowleging the fact that you are told to do these things..and that, in my opinion, is all the more reason to convince people not to but into this crap. It forces you guys to be annoying jack asses when you probably aren't, and that isn't right. I just think of myself selling service plans last year and how crappy it made me feel. You, as an employee can't say the things i'm saying..but I want you to know, my posts aren't a "Gamestop employees suck" type thing... they are a "Gamestop the company sucks" thing.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Ian Sane on March 15, 2005, 07:59:02 AM
"I went into gamestop last night to pick up katamari, I asked if they had gotten dk:jb or touch and go in yet, they said not till tomorrow, then argued with me for 10 minutes about why i need to preorder."
I don't mind them saying "do you want to pre-order it?" It's the fact that an arguement took place that annoys me. If I don't want to pre-order let me risk not getting the game. If I don't pre-order and the game is sold out when I go to buy it what do they care? IT'S SOLD OUT. That means they sold all their copies so what f*cking difference does it make if I was one of those people that bought one? And if it's not sold out then I buy a copy anyway. It's not like the store loses any money if I don't pre-order.
Thankfully I rarely get bothered about pre-ordering since in my area the amount of available game merchandise greatly dwarfs the amount of game demand. I can easily buy any game at release without a pre-order and the stores know it so they wisely shut up about it so they don't piss me off.
It's worth noting that by far the most popular store for games in my area is a local chain that doesn't even do pre-orders. The amount of traffic in that store is easily double that of EBs. Funny how having no corporate sales pressure crap has created a more loyal customer base.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: KDR_11k on March 15, 2005, 08:36:31 AM
The lack of any sales pitches here makes me wonder if my country has a law against that. Neither EB nor that small store in my hometown ever tried to sell me additional crap. But then I rarely buy at smaller stores because they tend to be expensive.
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Rhoq on April 27, 2005, 10:40:47 AM
Alright, I went to the local Game Stop during lunch today to pick up my pre-order for Pac-Pix. Usually the people that work at this store are pretty good. This is also the same store I had pre-ordered my DS and waited in a line that wrapped around the outer isles of the small store (I would estimate that a good 30 people were waiting patiently to pick their DS that day).
Anyways, I walk-in and one of the guys behind the counter (and he was wearing a Manager’s shirt) asked if he could help me. I told him I was there to pick-up a pre-order. He then passed me off to the other clerk behind the counter. He asked “What game?”. I said “Pac-Pix”.
The manager then said (as he’s wiping off dust from his PSP’s screen) “Pac-Pix? We were just looking at that as we unpacked the box. Who would want to play that? I know I wouldn’t want to, let alone pre-order it. I don’t know much about it, other than it has something to with Pac-Man. What’s it about?”
I ignored him as he clipped his PSP onto his belt loop.
I really thought about asking for a refund of my deposit and taking my business elsewhere. This is the first time I’ve witnessed this sort of ignorance at this particular Game Stop store. In the 8 or so years I’ve been a customer at this particular location I can honestly say that the staff has been very good at not showing bias towards one particular system or another. While I know that he was dissing a game and the not the system, I still kind of felt like he was bashing me for having a DS, particularly because he was holding a PSP in his hands at the time he made his comments.
Thinking about it though, I prefer doing business with these game specialty stores since they usually have new releases the day after the ship date. With larger retailers (Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.) you sometimes have to wait a few extra days before the games are put on the shelves and with minor releases it sometimes takes weeks before they get any copies, if ever.
I just felt the need to vent a bit. Never mind me.
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Gremio on April 29, 2005, 06:53:31 AM
Gamestop never tried to force a warranty on me or anything but they do overcharge for practically everything here. $55 for console & PSP games, $40 for DS games. I don't like shopping there because of the overpricing.
Title: RE:EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: Rhoq on April 29, 2005, 07:16:54 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Gremio Gamestop never tried to force a warranty on me or anything but they do overcharge for practically everything here. $55 for console & PSP games, $40 for DS games. I don't like shopping there because of the overpricing.
Where do you live? I find that GameStop's in store prices match the on-line prices (at their website) and sometimes the store's prices are 5 dollar's lower (on older titles).
Title: RE: EBGAMES & OTHER STUPID STORES
Post by: RickPowers on April 29, 2005, 08:39:33 AM
Never buy an extended warranty for a Nintendo product. Nintendo will frequently honor their warranty long after it expires.
As for salespeople, I don't go to EBGames any more, GameStop is OK, but I primarily go to the GameCrazy by my house, because it's convenient, I get better trade-in credit, and they know I write for a GameCube site, so they always take time to chat with me.