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Title: N64 adapter for GC!
Post by: Procoprio on November 16, 2004, 03:06:19 PM: Right now on Nintendos website is a forum poll that says: "What level of interest do you have, and how much would you pay for an adapter that allowed you to play N64 cartridges on the Nintendo GameCube?" and the options were "Very interested, and would pay up to $39 or $49 or $59 or Not interested at all, and dont own an N64 or Not interested at all although own an N64".

Now why would Nintedo post this on their homepage unless they were really curious about producing it, keyword curious?
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: Ian Sane on November 16, 2004, 04:34:33 PM: An N64 adapter doesn't really interest me because the system is still current enough that it takes very little effort to find a system or any of the major games. An NES adapter would interest me more because finding a consistently working system is much harder.

I would gladly pay as much as a GB Player costs for an NES adapter. I would also pay that much for a SNES adapter if I didn't already have a working SNES. I wouldn't pay anything for an N64 adapter even if my N64 was broken. There just aren't really any games for it that I have any desire to play again and again. And both N64 Zeldas are on the Cube already.

It would be nice if Nintendo did release adapters like this though. They're just asking the wrong question. N64 adapter? Don't care. Adapters of all past Nintendo consoles? Sign me up.
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Post by: kennyb27 on November 17, 2004, 03:02:45 AM: It would interest me. I'm at college right now and my sister has my only N64 back at home. And how great would it be to play with a GC controller.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on November 17, 2004, 03:18:48 AM: I agree, as it would definitely be a help if you don't feel like lugging around two systems...However, I say it should be released during a gap in release and that it comes with a game or two built in...
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Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 17, 2004, 04:37:51 AM: I want one of these on the revolution. I also want a snes and nes adapter. I think that nintendo should also work a deal with sega to get old sega games up on one of their systems.
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 17, 2004, 05:56:27 AM: Never had an N64, so Hell Yeah!
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Post by: odifiend on November 17, 2004, 06:50:51 AM: Why would Nintendo do this? I don't think the market for this is present at all. Unlike Gameboy and the Gameboy player, the market was not there to begin with. Comparing N64 sales to GBA sales would be cruel. Also unlike Gameboy that has been backward compatible since the beginning of time, N64 games 'expired' - the generation has past. I know a lot of people sell their old consoles to buy a new one. That is not even taking into account that alot of the 64's great games have been ported to something else and that the Gamecube and N64 are Nintendo's worst performing consoles ever barring the Virtual Boy. Who would be the target audience? 10,000 people who are Gamecube fans but never got around to buying a N64. What a waste of production time, I wonder if Nintendo even thinks anymore...
Actually let me take that back, they are doing a poll.
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: Ian Sane on November 17, 2004, 06:58:20 AM: It's worth noting that the Gamecube controller doesn't have as many buttons as the N64 which would really limit a lot of titles.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on November 17, 2004, 07:16:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
It's worth noting that the Gamecube controller doesn't have as many buttons as the N64 which would really limit a lot of titles.

The C-stick = 4 buttons
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: Ian Sane on November 17, 2004, 09:10:31 AM: "The C-stick = 4 buttons"

True. But that's 4 really imprecise buttons. Though if you could customize the setup you could potentially play Jet Force Gemini with twin joysticks which could be pretty cool.

All I'm saying is the the N64 controller doesn't convert to the Cube as well as the NES or SNES controllers would.
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Post by: ruby_onix on November 17, 2004, 02:30:57 PM: Quote
I want one of these on the revolution.

If the Revolution is fully-compatible with the GameCube, then it wouldn't matter which particular system it comes out for.

As soon as Nintendo sets themselves up with a permanent "standard" for this kind of thing, then I want adaptors for the N64/SNES/NES/GBA/GBC/VB. Until then, it's just a "gimmick", that yeah, you'd probably find me wasting my money on.

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Why would Nintendo do this? I don't think the market for this is present at all.

The Digital Millenium Copyright Act says that when someone like Nintendo has gone too long without producing any new hardware, they're not giving us a reasonable choice about buying their products, so their older stuff becomes "abandonware" and we're legally allowed to break the copy protection on those systems and games, to play the games we legally own.

I can't build myself a coconut Nintendo, because I don't know how, but I can legally dump my own games and play them in an emulator. At which point it becomes amazingly easy to "accidentally" pirate games (it becomes pirating once you give/sell the ROM/disk image to someone who doesn't own the original).

(BTW, I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not even an American. Just so you know.)
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Post by: Jdub03 on November 17, 2004, 02:49:18 PM: Most games on the n64 used the C-buttons just as the C-stick is used in gamecube games. I dont think they would have much of a problem converting it over.
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Post by: odifiend on November 17, 2004, 03:11:55 PM: Still I can't image the investment would be worth it. Speaking of which, how well has the Gameboy Player done?

(BTW, Neither I am )
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Post by: King of Twitch on November 17, 2004, 09:17:06 PM: $30 just to save 5 minutes unraveling controllers, moving systems around, and changing video and power cables?

Yes please
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: odifiend on November 18, 2004, 01:03:16 AM: $39 was the lowest price . I'm curious as to where this adapter will go. Well not really. It has to be the bottom of the system, but how will that work with a cartridge?
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: Jdub03 on November 18, 2004, 03:29:45 AM: It will most likely finction like the gb player. A unit will sit at the bottom of the gamecube and have a slot for the n64 cartridge. If this is how they will actually do it, I wonder how thick it will be.
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Post by: Procoprio on November 18, 2004, 04:19:42 AM: Now that ive had some time to think about it I really suspect that its going to be the IQue (the N64 system recently released in China) player that Nintendo is releasing to the states. That way they can sell new copies of old N64 games on a new format. Because why would they bring out an adapter for the old system that none can buy games for.
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Post by: SgtShiversBen on November 18, 2004, 05:20:58 AM: The reason why I think this is a good idea is the fact of how cheap N64 games are, and how incredibly fun they still are. On Friday I was bored and feeling frisky, so I went to GameStop and bought StarFox 64 (again) and NFL Blitz (you can't beat this one, it's just fun) for 8 dollars together. Now, that may seem bad, but hell, at one time, these games were both 50-60 dollars each, no including tax. I think that's a great deal. Another reason is that I want to play Mario Kart 64 again, but NOOO, can't find any good controllers to buy. But I think I would pay 40 dollars for this. The N64 era was a great part in video game history. Spawned the best FPS, 3D game, and revolutionized targeting. If the PS2 can do it, why can't the 64? Plus, with this I'm pretty sure they'd whip up a SNES add on because they're running out.
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Post by: odifiend on November 18, 2004, 11:44:40 AM: Procoprio, I was thinking they were going to go I-Que as well, but then they really wouldn't call it an adapter AND it would be even more inconvenient (you'd have to repurchase all games in iQue format). I'm picturing this adapter plugging into a memory card slot.
Ben: Why not just dust off your 64, or purchase one for like 20 bucks? That's a better deal. Also the reason PS2 could do it, was because it was built in. No added costs and the timing (immediately after you purchase your PS2) were perfect.
I'm worried about Nintendo's mentality. How are they managing to think this is a good idea? Ruby's point about patent law is the only pro for them that could explain this, but the cost of production and the resulting dismal sales seems like a pretty big con.
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: Jdub03 on November 18, 2004, 01:55:08 PM: I still say its going to be just like the gb-player adapter. Thats the most sensible way to implement it.
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on November 18, 2004, 02:08:10 PM: Come on. How frequently do Nintendo.com polls mean anything? I think someone at NOA thought it would just be a fun poll question, honestly.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 18, 2004, 02:39:00 PM: I would be interested if it was a NES/SNES/N64 add on. And if it was NES/SNES/N64 there would be more incentives to buy one and a Hori digital pad(for the NES/SNES part)
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Post by: SgtShiversBen on November 18, 2004, 02:55:07 PM: I do have my N64 out, actually it's sitting on my dining room table (don't ask me why). It's not the point. Sure I find it unnessecary, but I was just thinking it'd be cool. 40 bucks really isn't that bad if they do good things with it. Meaning allowing you to play four player, save to the memory card and all that buttery goodness. But like their polls, it wouldn't mean anything to me, just thought it'd be a great idead, especially for 40 bucks. Plus I think this is Nintendo's way of seeing if backwards compatability is a good idea or not. Just a theory though.
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: UncleBob on November 18, 2004, 03:42:52 PM: But what if you already have a GB Player? Those things aren't fun to take off - it'd be a pain to switch them around every so often...
Title: RE:N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: SgtShiversBen on November 18, 2004, 07:40:51 PM: My roommate and I were discussing that earlier today. The only feasible way would be to put the GB player on top of the player, in between both of them....but more than likely it'd be like the microphone.
Title: RE:N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: vudu on November 19, 2004, 06:51:33 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: TheYoungerPlumber
Come on. How frequently do Nintendo.com polls mean anything? I think someone at NOA thought it would just be a fun poll question, honestly.
If this were the case, don't you think they'd show us the results? As far as I can tell, there's no way to see which option is "winning".
Title: RE:N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: Guitar Smasher on November 20, 2004, 07:48:39 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: TheYoungerPlumber
Come on. How frequently do Nintendo.com polls mean anything? I think someone at NOA thought it would just be a fun poll question, honestly.

A fun poll question would be 'would you rather have a N64, SNES, or NES adaptor for your GCN?'.

The fact that it gives muliple options for price suggests they're actually doing some market research.
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on November 21, 2004, 01:57:18 AM: Sorry, I'm still not convinced, even if it is research. Someone at Nintendo might be tinkering with the idea, but I don't think this is confirmation of the product my any means, as some sites have been suggesting. Heck, this could be research for Revolution backwards compatibility in disguise (is worth an increase of X in price?).
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Post by: Nephilim on November 21, 2004, 04:13:12 AM: People would complain due to possable slow down/glitches in some games or the control stick being too touchy just like when OOT came with Zelda
you cant make ppl happy these's days
not worth it, its too late in the gamecube's life anyway, picking up a N64 for 10dollars is just a easier way of playing the old games, if you have them laying around.
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Post by: Polemistis on November 22, 2004, 12:51:20 PM: Why don't they release new games for the N64? Some company just recently said they are releasing a game for dreamcast [LMAO!! SO FUNNY]
Title: RE:N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: odifiend on November 22, 2004, 02:16:45 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Polemistis
Why don't they release new games for the N64? Some company just recently said they are releasing a game for dreamcast [LMAO!! SO FUNNY]

Cost...
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 23, 2004, 08:39:09 AM: Too much.
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Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 23, 2004, 02:39:05 PM: *gasm* I want that game sooo bad
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Post by: norebonomis on January 01, 2005, 08:20:58 PM: i'd rather have a hard drive attached with an online service so i can just download older games and play them.
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 01, 2005, 08:52:30 PM: Yeah and people will complain they have to rebuy their games AGAIN.
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Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 02, 2005, 09:48:44 PM: Is there any real point to making a snes/nes adapter? nintendo is putting all the games on GBA. Only a 64 adapter would make any sense.
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 02, 2005, 11:36:11 PM: How about those third party games Nintendo doesn't reissue?
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 05, 2005, 06:27:31 AM: "Is there any real point to making a snes/nes adapter? nintendo is putting all the games on GBA."

1. Not all SNES/NES games are re-released including very major titles like Super Metroid.
2. With an adapter you don't have to buy all the games over again.
3. GBA ports are NEVER 100% accurate. Nintendo in particular has f*cked up all their GBA SNES ports by adding annoying voices, dumbing down the difficulty and just changing all sorts of minor details for no reason. It's like reissuing a vinyl album on CD but with remixed songs. Plus the GBA screen size is different and multiplayer requires multiple systems so even if a company tries to make a perfect port they can't.
Title: RE: N64 adapter for GC!?
Post by: KDR_11k on January 05, 2005, 08:57:17 AM: SMB3 actually felt harder to me, as if they reduced the friction.