Post by: nemo_83 on November 15, 2004, 09:30:59 PM
The Revolution is in your hands.
The Revolution revolves around you.
The Revolution; it revolves around you.
Don't just evolve, revolve.
Evolution is slow. Join the Revolution.
The Revolution is at hand.
Get N the Revolution.
What does your world revolve around?
Evolution is slow. Revolution is fast.
5 is the only number that you want to do.
Between 6 and 4 there is 5.
The 5th dimension. The 5th power. N5.
5 is not the lonliest number.
The 5th power. The 5th dimension. The 5th Nintendo console. Evolution is slow. Revolution is fast. the Nintendo Revolution. It revolves around you.
Revolution is 5 times faster than evolution. N5.
The 5th dimension, the 5th power, the fifth Nintendo. N5.
N 5,4,3,2,1 the Revolution has begun. N5.
iN 5, fouR, thRee, two, oNe. the REVOLUTION has beguN. N5.
There is a fifth dimension...N5.
There is no power greater than the fifth...N^5
Post by: PaLaDiN on November 15, 2004, 09:33:21 PM
Post by: Caillan on November 15, 2004, 10:23:17 PM
Post by: nemo_83 on November 15, 2004, 10:59:42 PM
I'm afraid they are going to call it something like StarBall. Why don't they just stick a rainbow vibrator on the top it, say its a handle, and call it ButBandit Ass Sybian 666? That would sell real well to the conservatives in America.
Post by: Draygaia on November 16, 2004, 05:04:39 AM
"Revoluton. The Ultimate Evolution."
Post by: Ian Sane on November 16, 2004, 06:26:36 AM
I like "Join the Revolution" or something like "Isn't it time you joined the Revolution?" That just sounds really cool and has a real rebel edge like buying a console is going to change the world or something. Plus it gives the impression that others are already on board so it's been accepted. "Isn't it time you joined the Revolution?" for example sounds like everyone who matters already has "joined" so thus you should too.
Of course to pull it off they need some cool games to show off in the ads and the system itself can't look like a f*cking Duplo block.
"I'm afraid they are going to call it something like StarBall."
If NCL wants to name it something dumb why don't they use a different name for the two markets like Famicon/NES? There's no rule that they both have to have the same name or even the same casing. That way there's no worry of losing one market by designing the console for another.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 16, 2004, 08:21:40 AM
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Post by: The Omen on November 20, 2004, 12:51:18 PM
To change the system, a Revolution must take place
And if the marketing people were very intelligent, they wouldn't use the Beatles song at all, they would use something like Rage Against the Machine. Thats the spirit Nintendo needs in the campaign. How about the end of the song 'Freedom' as Zack De Larocha screams freedom at the top of his lungs? Now you're talking great , hardcore, aggressive advertising. Something Nintendo will never do. If only they could hire me, I'd save them.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 20, 2004, 04:24:38 PM
Except the Beatles song is better...
Post by: The Omen on November 20, 2004, 06:18:39 PM
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Except the Beatles song is better...
Well, it's apples and oranges..but the bottom line is ..#1)You won't get clearence to use a Beatles song and #2) Nothing says Revolution to this gen. like Rage Against the Machine. #3) The majority of the demographic Nintendo needs to attract won't even know that's a Beatles song unfortunately. The end of the song FREEDOM would be incredible for Nintendo and the Revolution. Not the whole song, but the last 30 seconds playing over the Nintendo and Revolution logos.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 20, 2004, 07:21:44 PM
Doesn't Michael Jackson own the commerical rights to the Beatles' songs? I believe he used Revolution for a Nike commercial or something in the 80s which really pissed off Paul McCartney. I'm assuming that since he was willing to ruin his friendship with Paul over it that it's pretty doable to use a Beatles song provided you pony up the dough.
Though I do think that Rage Against the Machine would be a better choice. It might be even harder to get one of their songs though. Aren't they against that sort of thing (and a lot of other stuff)?
Maybe they could use the Sex Pistols. Those guys have no problem with selling out. The general problem with using legitimate "Revolution songs" is that their lack of commercialism gives them their legitimacy.
Post by: nemo_83 on November 20, 2004, 09:27:39 PM
If they used the gyration technology to create a VR device, then Nintendo could use the revolving pun more since the sytem would essentially be like a halo around your head with mic support that would allow you to do things like speak as Samus to create sound waves that can be used to see with the echoe visor. It wouldn't neccesarily have to have some big lcd screen, it would just be a mic and ear pieces with gyration built in to detect head movement. It would probably be simpler to just use the idea of having a reflector sticker on your four head or on the "halo" that could be used with a built in camera in the console to detect head movement (no tilting technologies needed). A wide screen visor for the "halo" would be expensive, but could wow more people than any power Sony's next system could muster.
I like the idea of freedom as a punchline for ads, but I don't see Rage loaning their music out to any company. The whole freedom idea would relate to how everything will be standardized wireless, and probably this time around the optional controller will be the one with the cord.
I like the idea of the metaphor of being chained to old systems. They could be dragging their old systems behind them tangled in cords and tons of controllers tailing the consoles. Then the Revolution is introduced as a wireless home console.
"Feel the Freedom of the Revolution"
"Feel the Revolution, Feel the Freedom"
"Feel Free, Feel the Revolution"
"The Revolution is Free" (talking about the online plan too)
"You say you want a Revolution?"
"Evolution is slow, Revolution is free."
Post by: KDR_11k on November 21, 2004, 06:32:27 AM
Post by: The Omen on November 21, 2004, 06:43:27 AM
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Doesn't Michael Jackson own the commerical rights to the Beatles' songs? I believe he used Revolution for a Nike commercial or something in the 80s which really pissed off Paul McCartney. I'm assuming that since he was willing to ruin his friendship with Paul over it that it's pretty doable to use a Beatles song provided you pony up the dough.
Nike did use it, but I believe they were sued by Paul and had to stop.
Yes, RATM would be hard as well. Although since they're broken up, I wonder if it would be possible. Sex Pistols are a okay idea. But how about the Clash? The Clash have a much more serious tone IMO. -Right off the bat, Death or Glory or Clampdown lyrically are pretty good. Even I'm so bored of the U.S.A. I can literally think of about a dozen songs with revolution type lyrics off the top of my head, and they all have different sounds, which is even better. And you get that nostalgic feeling also. And many of you know my Nintendo + Nostalgia= Marketing stance. Perfect all around!
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You know, it's kinda pointless to talk about slogans for a system that doesn't have a final name yet.
Not really in my case. These Ideas work for whatever the system is called. Its about a revolution, though it doesn't have to be named 'Revolution'.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 21, 2004, 04:09:13 PM
I don't get what the appeal of that is. The amount of buttons on the controller isn't the sort of thing most mainstream types are interested in. And if you're suggesting the Cube button layout with another button underneath that's probably going to turn people off more than anything. The Revolution absolutely must NOT have anything even resembling the Cube controller button layout. You might as well put a sign on the system saying "don't buy me if you like fighting games".
"But how about the Clash? The Clash have a much more serious tone IMO. -Right off the bat, Death or Glory or Clampdown lyrically are pretty good."
The Clash would be pretty good. London Calling was in Die Another Day and if they were willing to let that crapfest feature a Clash song on the soundtrack surely they would allow it for a Nintendo commercial.
Post by: nemo_83 on November 22, 2004, 07:45:26 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 23, 2004, 06:33:27 AM
Holy crap, man...THAT IS PERFECT!
Post by: Ian Sane on November 23, 2004, 06:35:19 AM
Well someone obviously has never played a 2D fighting game before.
"they need to wake up and realize who made the dpad, the analog stick, rumble, shoulder buttons, triggers, start/ select buttons, diamond pattern face buttons, and now touch screen standard ways of controlling video games."
Yes Nintendo made all those things standard. Therefore it makes no sense for them to go with something else when they have already invented the perfect controller layout.
I'm just saying that I have played numerous games that had their controls ruined by the Cube controller layout and NO GAMES that really benefited from it. I'm not so dumb that I require a center button to figure out what I'm doing and considering the PS2 is the number one console in world I doubt very many other people are either.
I will agree that it would benefit Nintendo to make their controller buttons more neutral colours. I don't why they can't realize that having bright colours everywhere and making their products look like toys doesn't fly in America. Interesting enough the only Nintendo consoles to have bright colourful buttons in North America are the N64 and Gamecube, their two "failures".
Post by: KDR_11k on November 23, 2004, 08:38:05 AM
I'd say put two buttons left and right of the Y button and you hve a 3+3 layout that doesn't have the problems most 3+3 gamepads have (you don't accidentally slip off your buttons).
Post by: Ages on November 23, 2004, 08:55:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I will agree that it would benefit Nintendo to make their controller buttons more neutral colours. I don't why they can't realize that having bright colours everywhere and making their products look like toys doesn't fly in America. Interesting enough the only Nintendo consoles to have bright colourful buttons in North America are the N64 and Gamecube, their two "failures".
While this is true, it begs to question why the Xbox, can get away with having colorful buttoms. But then again, this is most likely due to MS throwing so much money away making the world believe that no matter what they do, they're cool.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 23, 2004, 09:16:06 AM
It's the way they're presented. The Xbox buttons have a slight transparent look and they're neonish colours. The Gamecube has solid basic colours like green, red, and yellow on a purple background (well not always but that's the "main" colour). Look at car colours. New cars usually don't have basic colours. They're always slightly off. For some reason people view the basic colours as childish and off colours like neon green or maroon as cool.
"I'd say put two buttons left and right of the Y button and you hve a 3+3 layout that doesn't have the problems most 3+3 gamepads have (you don't accidentally slip off your buttons)."
No complains from me there. I think having six face buttons is the ideal way to go. I didn't like how the C buttons were smaller but in general I found the N64 button layout to be perfect for virtually all games. If Nintendo wanted to they could keep the A button bigger with the other buttons surrounding it. I can deal with that. I just want them to arrange them in a logical fashion. Keeping the Cube layout but with an extra button on each side of the Y button would be a good compromise since it allows for easy Cube backwards compatibility, lets Nintendo use their own wacky design and lets everyone else use a more traditional layout.
Post by: nemo_83 on November 27, 2004, 04:17:11 PM
Their new slogin should be, "We promise we will only release one game with all of the Mario Parties, Karts, Congas, Pinballs, Smash Brothers, Golfs, Tennises, Baseballs, Footballs, Soccers, Basketballs, and any other sports like Kickball, Hockey, Dodgeball, and Roller skating we want to slap Mario and company on packed in as a new franchise from now on so our lineup can't be defined as milked."
Post by: Koopa Troopa on November 27, 2004, 04:39:55 PM
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 27, 2004, 07:01:55 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on November 27, 2004, 08:06:42 PM
That's a nice thought in theory. But even though it sounds kind of selfish I would rather not compromise the controller design. I think it would be better to keep the d-pad and design the controller assuming people will be right handed or comfortable with the traditional design and then sell reversed left-handed controllers online for those that want it. That way no one is stuck trying to use face buttons for directional input.
Post by: nemo_83 on November 28, 2004, 12:05:23 AM
Imagine an ad in a mag with a white background and a white controller with black and grey buttons and black text that says, "Touching is good. Feel the Revolution." There would be no cords so the point that it is wireless is gotten across.
here are some more slogAns
"touch the revolution, feel the freedom"
"touching is free, you want to feel free don't you? so feel free, touch the revolution"
"the revolution is free, you want to feel free don't you? so touch it, go ahead, feels nice to be free doesn't it."
"you want to feel free? feel the revolution"
"touch the revolution, feel free"
"touch the freedom, feel the revolution"
"do you feel it? the revolution is free. touch the freedom. feel the revolution."
"freedom is revolution"
"touch it, feel it, freedom is revolution"
"feel free, touch the revolution"
"feel the freedom, touch the revolution"
"feel the revolution"
"feel the revolution, feel the freedom"
"feel the revolution, touch the freedom"
"freedom is free, feel it, the revolution is in your hands"
Post by: KDR_11k on November 29, 2004, 08:44:24 AM
Post by: GeneralTraag on December 01, 2004, 02:28:06 PM
"Nintendo plus Revolution equals the Nintendolution."
"Gamers of the world unite, the Revolution is here."
"Are you ready for the Revolution?"
Post by: KDR_11k on December 02, 2004, 05:19:00 AM
"Nintendo offers the Final Solution to all your gaming problems!"
Post by: odifiend on December 02, 2004, 07:30:18 AM
I think "the Revolution is here" in that whisper Nintendo likes to do would be a great slogan. Until we can confirm the system's name, the best slogan can't be made.
Post by: thepoga on December 09, 2004, 04:04:29 PM
"touching is free, you want to feel free don't you? so feel free, touch the revolution"
"the revolution is free, you want to feel free don't you? so touch it, go ahead, feels nice to be free doesn't it."
All these sound like ads for the DS. : )
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 09, 2004, 07:25:52 PM
Some of those are good. I like "Between 6 and 4, there is a 5" because it makes absolutely no sense.
Post by: Ian Sane on December 10, 2004, 06:28:22 AM
Isn't "final solution" what the Nazis called the Holocaust? That's not exactly the sort of publicity you want to have.
Post by: KDR_11k on December 10, 2004, 11:16:29 PM
. I just thought "Nintendolution" sounded too much like "Solution"...
Post by: nemo_83 on January 17, 2005, 12:27:42 AM
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 18, 2005, 07:29:14 AM
Post by: nemo_83 on January 18, 2005, 06:42:41 PM
The rummored slogan is now Touching is good, feeling is better. I'm a prophet or have suffered intellectual theft. There is a saying, "You have not made it until you have been stolen from."
Post by: The Omen on January 19, 2005, 08:47:31 PM
The Revolution will be televised.
I still like the commercial I spoke about a while back...with the Rage song. I'll just make it myself. Nintendo should just have contests for the best commercials fans submit, and then use them.
Post by: ThePerm on January 26, 2005, 07:31:34 AM
Jai Guru Deva ohm
Post by: KDR_11k on January 26, 2005, 08:03:16 AM
"We are the Revolution. Resistance is futile. You will be amazed."
"It is time for gamers to stand up to their corporate overlords and demand what they have always been denied: Innovation!"
"Take the world back from EA! Join the Revolution now!" (now that would be nasty and not bode well for their relationship...)
"It is a revolution of the mind. Feel the freedom. Nintendo."
"The world revolves around you. Feel it."
"Counterrevolutionaries will not be tolerated! EA Games." (sorry, had to do that)
"You were playing with power, now use it!"
"Don't try to bend the spoon for that is impossible. You must bend the Revolution around the spoon!"
"Being trapped in a virtual world really sucks. Break free. Revolution."
"Don't be like your friends, be yourself."
Yeah, might be a few dupes in there but I didn't want to search through the whole thread.
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 26, 2005, 02:51:14 PM
I think Nintendo should stick with the "Revolution" idea, even if the final name is completely different. If they're confident enough that it is truly going to be a revolution, then I think they could use some taglines and put some "commercials" up on the internet (you know, like if you go to gamespot.com you sometimes get lenghty animated ads before the homepage, or if you go to ign they're.....well, you can't miss 'em).
It could start off with like the Beatles playing, and then they show some popular retro game to catch the viewer's attention (mayhaps in a faded style like in the old "Hiding under your table will save your life in a nuclear attack" videos), and then they could switch to some newer, umm, (hardcore?) music and some shots of the Revolution in action (mayhaps the remake of the retro game shown in the begining) and some slogan like "Join the Revolution."
The only (well, the biggest >_>) probelm I see here is that it could potentially turn off alot of older gamers who don't want the beloved classics to undergo a "revolution." Oh, and my ad idea sucks. I just like the use of lots of internet ads and some Revolution tags :hurrah:
Post by: KDR_11k on January 27, 2005, 08:23:28 AM
