Post by: Shecky on October 27, 2004, 07:38:07 PM
We know that the DS can play games via its wireless 802.11 and proprietary short range modes.
My question is if the DS will be able to:
1) Use the native wireless of the DS (without need of the GBA adapter) to play GBA games that were specifically written with the GBA wireless adapter in mind.
2) Use the native DS wireless to play against a GBA that has the wireless adapter (for the same kind of games mentioned above)
3) Use the native DS wireless to play GBA games that would normally require a link cable.
It would just seem silly if 1 and 2 above weren't possible, considering the close release of both the GBA adapter and the DS. (not via the 802.11 but rather via the proprietary short range comm)
Case 3 would be sweet and rather feasible if Nintendo did a little thinking. Have a little app built into the DS that was a wireless manager, so that you could pick systems in range to link too before 'booting' the GBA game. Most GBA games require links to be established before playing anyways, no?
So any definitive answers on these? Or just wait till launch
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Post by: Shecky on November 03, 2004, 04:29:48 PM
If Nintendo wants to go that route, I'd like to see the equivalent of 'DS Live'. I believe the DS already has a chunk of space set aside for the wireless management (it has too for the 802.11 alone, I couldn't imagine it not being included). Hopefully it's flashable so that they can augment it later to do just what you describe without having the DS card (with the manager) in all of the time.
If Nintendo want's any hope for a good online/multiplayer DS experience, here's hoping for a good wireless manager.
And since I'm almost positive they won't get it right the first time... here's hoping that it's flashable.
Post by: Shecky on November 19, 2004, 03:49:47 AM
"Or maybe this is a good sign that at least part of the DS is flashable. Where not only can you get a Demo of a game wirelessly, but it can also replace the Hunters demo (maybe it has to be done via DS carts). Or maybe you can replace it with something that's not a demo at all...."
Like the whole "DS Live" idea. I bet something is in the works (to utilize the 802.11 (or WiFi as it likes to be called) they *have* to be working on something). It may just not be ready for the launch timeframe.
Post by: Kulock on November 19, 2004, 04:51:37 AM
There is the free RAM for the downloadables (1-card multiplayer, et cetera), but that goes away once the system is fully powered off.
Post by: Grant10k on November 19, 2004, 06:29:49 AM
Post by: Shecky on November 19, 2004, 06:43:48 AM
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Originally posted by: Kulock
I'm fairly sure the Hunters demo is a seperate DS Game Card, not built into the system.
Oh, hunters is on a DS card? When I saw the display unit it said "no pack inserted" on the lower part of the screen, but maybe it was just refering to the GBA slot now that I think about it.... hmm.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 19, 2004, 11:20:41 AM
Post by: God Speaks on November 19, 2004, 02:16:31 PM
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Originally posted by: Grant10k
I have a question...is it 802.11a, 802.11b, or 802.11g?
There's no way it's a. There's not a lot of that gear around. It's most likely b.
Post by: Shecky on November 20, 2004, 06:33:46 AM
Also, after being totally wrong (and rather foolish mind you -- had I even thought for a bit) that the Metroid demo is stored locally, and that it is in fact on a DS card: I'm going to go out on limb and say that we'll see two products for the DS...
The first will likely be either:
a) a GBA cart released by Nintendo for the DS. It will act as a common interface for games so that they can be played over the Internet. It'll host an API put out for game developers, and the cart itself can take care of and _remember_ any wireless Internet configurations (like wep keys, 802.1x if they have foresight, bluesocket, etc). That'll also mean you can use it in places like airport terminals, and other pay to join access points.
b) Interface to the outside world left up to the games themselves. Which I think is not as clean a solution and will lead to a lot of variation.
The second product would be a DS card (more than likely from a third party) that does exactly what Tunnelvision456's described and incorporates all the features found in (a) above.
