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Title: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 26, 2004, 05:49:23 PM


          I'v Just been wandering about DS emulation, It would be realy hard to emulate the Ds's touch screen it propbly can't be emulated...
Just thinking Post your thoughts.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: kennyb27 on October 26, 2004, 05:52:10 PM
This is a good thing.

Oh, and expect this thread to get locked.
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Edfishy on October 26, 2004, 05:52:38 PM
Simple.  One screen in the emulator would provide the top screen, the second providing the bottom screen, only with a half-transparent icon representing where your stylus/cursor is.  The cursor would be locked within the boundaries of the bottom screen so as not to have your cursor clicking on nothing important.

Hope this helps.
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 26, 2004, 05:57:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Edfishy
Simple.  One screen in the emulator would provide the top screen, the second providing the bottom screen, only with a half-transparent icon representing where your stylus/cursor is.  The cursor would be locked within the boundaries of the bottom screen so as not to have your cursor clicking on nothing important.

Hope this helps.


iThis Could be a way but presing six keys and moveing the mouse would be quite hard.
Yes it is good if the ds is not emulated! That means buying it is not a waste!
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Edfishy on October 26, 2004, 06:00:38 PM
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iThis Could be a way but presing six keys and moveing the mouse would be quite hard.
Yes it is good if the ds is not emulated! That means buying it is not a waste!


Heheh, emulation does have positive values you know.  It's especially useful for those trying to learn how to make games for the console in question, not just for pirating games to ruin the great companies that make them.

As for the six buttons, if you're using the stylus, than you won't be using six buttons.  You'd probably use W,S,A,D for movement, and spacebar for the "L" button, or the F key if you wish.  Your right hand would be used to move the stylus.
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: kennyb27 on October 26, 2004, 06:04:53 PM
Yeah...I bet that's what the majority of people think emulation is for.  
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 26, 2004, 06:07:46 PM
Heheh, emulation does have positive values you know.  It's especially useful for those trying to learn how to make games for the console in question, not just for pirating games to ruin the great companies that make them.

As for the six buttons, if you're using the stylus, than you won't be using six buttons.  You'd probably use W,S,A,D for movement, and spacebar for the "L" button, or the F key if you wish.  Your right hand would be used to move the stylus.


You could use W,S,A,D for movement  but what about the "R' button And "A" & "B" Buttons, Yes You could Get help makeing games by useing emulators but they are widely only used to pirate Games and Make bootlegs of Games.
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Edfishy on October 26, 2004, 06:12:45 PM
The DS buttons, A,B,X,Y, and R would probably be the keyboard keys, J,K,I,L and ;

Yes, I understand emulators are also used for pirating, much to my dismay, but don't just rule it completely out as used for pirating.  Only 75%.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 26, 2004, 06:14:31 PM
You Would have to use 2 hands do youse all those keys
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Edfishy on October 26, 2004, 06:21:33 PM
Your left hand would be used for Up,Down,Left,Right, and "L", and your right hand would be used for A,B,X,Y, and R.  Just like the real DS.

Like the real DS, if you're using the Stylus, you'll only use half of the buttons.  Either the left half, or the right half.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 26, 2004, 06:24:28 PM
Yes but in some of the games you just touch with your thumb and still use all the buttons
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Edfishy on October 26, 2004, 06:48:10 PM
You could have the A,B,X,Y and R buttons mapped to a four button mouse, although that would play very awkwards.  If you were serious into the emulation & development, you'd simply use a real DS plugged into your PC.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 26, 2004, 07:04:55 PM
Nintendo's got a rad Nintendo DS emulator coming out next month.
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 26, 2004, 07:11:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
Nintendo's got a rad Nintendo DS emulator coming out next month.
Where did you come by that information?

Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 26, 2004, 07:13:29 PM
The Internets. Nintendo have also started running adverts on the radiation box informing people of it. I hear the DS emulator will come with a free demo.
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 26, 2004, 07:22:46 PM
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
The Internets. Nintendo have also started running adverts on the radiation box informing people of it. I hear the DS emulator will come with a free demo.


Those advertisements are for thr real nintendo stop beaing stupid
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Jdub03 on October 26, 2004, 07:34:34 PM
In case you didnt know SPECIAL friend bob hes poking fun at you.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 26, 2004, 07:35:28 PM
I know
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: kurst_chao3030 on October 26, 2004, 08:32:38 PM
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Originally posted by: SpecialFriendbob
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
The Internets. Nintendo have also started running adverts on the radiation box informing people of it. I hear the DS emulator will come with a free demo.


Those advertisements are for thr real nintendo stop beaing stupid
u dumbass...

Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: KDR_11k on October 26, 2004, 09:42:31 PM
Remote code injection into a DS unit. Any questions left?
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 27, 2004, 01:12:56 AM
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Originally posted by: SpecialFriendbobstop beaing stupid


Says the guy who obviously didn't bother reading the forum rules regarding avatar sizes.
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 27, 2004, 10:50:07 AM
I have never been someone to support Emulation.

You can try to support it all you want by telling us that its got benefits like learning how to program for a system or whatnot.  However, the reason it is popular is because the people aren't just using it for education, they are using it to create, and spread games over the net with which people can play without paying for them.

I also used to think that if a game is hard to get or isn't ever going to be made again, why not have emulation, however Nintendo and other companies have proved this logic wrong, because they have been releasing budget priced compliation disks for us now, or including older games as hidden bonuses the gamer.  This bonuses and compliations won't be made as often if people are just playing the same games with emulation.

If you are starting up a game company, you can easily start producing games on PC first, and make some money.  If you want to move to consoles, you are going to have to put more risk into the development and buy the hardware and spend the money it costs to produce the game.  If you think that is unfair, tough that is the marketplace.  And it is actually much easier to get into than many of the other medias.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: kurst_chao3030 on October 27, 2004, 12:23:41 PM
r u stupid or somthing, why the hell would u wanna pay for some compilation thing when you can get the full games for free. there's even a dreamcast emulator now.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on October 27, 2004, 12:39:42 PM
"why the hell would u wanna pay for some compilation thing when you can get the full games for free"

Because that's illegal.
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 27, 2004, 12:48:39 PM
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Originally posted by: kurst_chao3030
r u stupid or somthing, why the hell would u wanna pay for some compilation thing when you can get the full games for free. there's even a dreamcast emulator now.

You don't deserve to call yourself a gamer...
Title: RE:Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 27, 2004, 01:01:21 PM
My point isn't that I want to buy these compliations.  My point is people try to justify emulation as a good and fair thing even though its illegal.

Well companies still own the right to these games, and we have seen how they are willing to re-release these games now and provide them for new generation of gamers, and for the older fans of these games.  

There is no excuse to practice in illegal emulation for any reason...
and those that do are actually hurting the industry not helping it.

 
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: kurst_chao3030 on October 27, 2004, 02:56:19 PM
who says i actually download and play those things, i was just trying to prove a point.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 27, 2004, 03:15:29 PM
Your hands may not be bloody, but your train of thought sure is...
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: SpecialFriendbob on October 27, 2004, 04:14:16 PM
I didn’t really start this to create an emulator I was hoping that the topic of justification would not come about. But I admit I have used certain emulators such as a Super Nintendo Entertainment System, but I only used it because of the lack of supply of them at my local gaming stores. In my opinion if you are able and capable to buy a product you shouldn’t download the games or emulators but if you own the games in real life you should be able to use emulators.(seeing as that I am too young to order things off the internet)
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: Gamefreak on October 27, 2004, 06:52:55 PM
Hey emulation is fine for SNES games...
where the heck else are you going to track down games like Super Metroid where you can't find the game at any used game shop and if you do it'll be like 80 dollars, and probably screwed up or something.
Title: RE: Emulation of the Nintendo Ds
Post by: DrZoidberg on October 27, 2004, 08:27:30 PM
I'm moderating this trainwreck okay.