Post by: Jonnyboy117 on September 20, 2004, 08:06:55 PM
Jump to Japanese launch information!
UPDATE: Nintendo has also revealed that Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt is being bundled with the DS. First Hunt is a four-player demo, designed to show off the system's wireless multiplayer function. It's unclear whether there is a single-player mode in the demo, but it is expected in the full version of Metroid Prime Hunters which will be released at a later date.
NINTENDO DS LAUNCHES ON NOV. 21 IN NORTH AMERICA - AT $149.99!
New System Comes with Embedded PictoChat Feature, Strong Publishers' Support
REDMOND, Wash., Sept. 20, 2004 - From the very start, Nintendo DS™ broke the existing rules of video game play. Two screens, not one. Wireless connection for game play and personal communication for the sheer entertainment of it. Flexible game control by voice and touch, not just with buttons. Nintendo's newest innovation, Nintendo DS, will make its worldwide debut in North American stores on Nov. 21, and then in Japan on Dec. 2. It will sell at an MSRP of $149.99, making it an immediate mass-market attraction. Nintendo DS will become the company's first system ever to make its sales debut outside of Japan.
"Nintendo's mission remains unchanged: expand the game experience," says Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo Co., Ltd. "Nintendo DS is the road map to the future of video games, and most clearly demonstrates the type of innovation that players demand."
Nintendo DS is the dual-screened, hand-held video game system redefining the idea of interactive entertainment. One screen allows for touch input using a stylus, while the unit includes both voice recognition and multiplayer wireless features. The sleek silver-and-black system sports a sharp, angular design.
Consumers immediately will be able to pick up and play the new system, as it comes with a free software feature, PictoChat, embedded in the system hardware. PictoChat allows DS owners to write messages with an on-screen keyboard or the stylus and send them wirelessly to other DS users nearby. Users can text chat, draw artistic messages or share secrets, all without saying a word. And a Nintendo DS in sleep mode will spring to life if it senses another DS in transmitting range, alerting users to each other's presence and setting the stage for an impromptu conversation or game session.
More than 100 companies have signed on to create games for Nintendo DS, while Nintendo itself is already developing its first 20 titles. Electronic Arts, the world's largest independent software developer and publisher, already has announced that its powerhouse franchises of Madden NFL, The URBZ: Sims in the City, Need for Speed Underground, Tiger Woods and GoldenEye will support Nintendo DS.
"Each time Nintendo creates a hand-held, it introduces new elements of play and sets a new standard for mobile gaming," says Larry Probst, EA's chairman and CEO. "The DS is no exception - Nintendo has another big winner with the DS."
The complete lineup of games planned for the launch of Nintendo DS will be announced in the near future. In effect, Nintendo DS already boasts a library of more than 550 games because it is compatible with single-player modes of games made for the world's best-selling video game system, Game Boy® Advance SP.
Nintendo chose the United States to lead the worldwide launch of Nintendo DS because of overwhelmingly positive and enthusiastic reaction from consumers and to take advantage of the holiday sales season. After the subsequent launch in Japan, the system will be available in Europe and Australia in the first quarter of 2005.
Nintendo DS has a flip-top cover that protects both screens. Two speakers on the unit's face let users hear virtual surround sound, while its dual screens open games to a multitude of possibilities. Nintendo DS sits 148.7 millimeters (5.85 inches) wide, 84.7 millimeters (3.33 inches) long and 28.9 millimeters (1.13 inches) tall with the cover closed. The new media format for games means that Nintendo DS has no moving parts that could be misaligned if the unit is dropped or jarred.
Post by: King of Twitch on September 20, 2004, 08:23:57 PM
Post by: EricEnder on September 20, 2004, 08:32:58 PM
Nov 21 for the US release for $149.99
it used to be on this URL http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=6a6f583d-1711-47be-b03c-d64d6bdd1d66&page=home
Post by: BlkPaladin on September 20, 2004, 08:34:19 PM
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Post by: MysticGohan24 on September 20, 2004, 08:58:20 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on September 20, 2004, 09:32:31 PM
Post by: Rize on September 20, 2004, 09:44:37 PM
So what's the deal with it saying single player GBA games? This thing has no link cable support for GBA games and the GCN/GBA link? That's a damned shame.
Hmm.. maybe I won't jump on the DS after all. What a waste it would be to have that GBA compatible hardware without the GBA link port.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 20, 2004, 09:59:06 PM
It senses other DS's nearby.
IT HAS TEH SPIDER SENSES!!!
Post by: ruby_onix on September 20, 2004, 10:46:51 PM
But, since the DS was frequently rumored to launch in the $150-200 price range, and Nintendo was able to get the $150 mark, I guess they really don't need to wait and see what cards Sony is holding. And considering how soon the DS is launching, it's much better this way.
One thing I do like is this part:
"According to NCL's official website, the Nintendo DS will launch in Japan on December 2nd for 15,000 yen, or about $136 US dollars."
That means the DS even has room to breathe at the $150 (US) price point, and the Canadian price might be $175 (Canadian), instead of $200.
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 20, 2004, 11:23:47 PM
And quick! The state of my pants depends on your quickness!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 21, 2004, 12:13:13 AM
Post by: MattVDB on September 21, 2004, 12:24:56 AM
Indeed Nintendo has secured their portable market, yet again. Now honestly, who saw this coming, one short year ago?
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 21, 2004, 12:56:03 AM
Post by: BigJim on September 21, 2004, 12:58:38 AM
And it makes sense. You really need to get software in the gamers' hands so they understand this product, because it's so different. Including pack-ins is the best way to do the talking for you.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on September 21, 2004, 01:09:15 AM
Post by: ruby_onix on September 21, 2004, 01:23:37 AM
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In effect, Nintendo DS already boasts a library of more than 550 games because it is compatible with single-player modes of games made for the world's best-selling video game system, Game Boy® Advance SP.
I'm a little bit dissapointed that Nintendo didn't set up a system where the DS can "emulate" the GBA's Link Cable over the wireless connection. Sure, maybe you could never do GBA-to-DS connections without the link port, but if those Warp Pipe guys can emulate the GameCube's System Link LAN connections over the internet, it shouldn't be too hard for Nintendo themselves to do something similar for DS-to-DS GBA-game linking.
And, seeing that Nintendo seems to be saying "30-100 feet" now for the wireless range (as opposed to just "100 feet, or 30 meters"), it's annoying that it's apparently not even compatible with Nintendo's recently-launched "Wireless Adaptors" for the GBA (which themselves are only compatible with select games).
Edit: But I guess combined with it not playing GBC games (which seems to be all-but-confirmed now), we'll just have to live with the DS "not being a perfect GBA replacement". It just seems like a shame to me, since it's so very close. I guess I'll just have to live with my not-yet-portable GameBoy Player.
Post by: Mario on September 21, 2004, 01:55:19 AM
Post by: Nephilim on September 21, 2004, 02:20:02 AM
I dont really care about link up for gba
DS multiplayer is were its going to be at
Demo or Full game of metroid is a bonus thu
going to be fun
"30-100 feet" = 30meters in dense building type area's, 100 in plane view
Lets hope that area is true to word, gosh iv used "100 meter" wireless phones that break up 2 meters from the base
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2004, 02:25:12 AM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on September 21, 2004, 02:53:19 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
I think this pretty much confirms a $199 launch in Australia
What's in the drinking water in Sydney?
USD$149.99 = AUD$213.49. No way it'll be AUD$199. How much was the GBA SP at launch in the US? USD$100 IIRC? Here, it was AUD$200. That's double without factoring the currency exchange rate.
I'd say the DS will be $249 if we are lucky.
Post by: Mario on September 21, 2004, 02:56:22 AM
Post by: joshnickerson on September 21, 2004, 03:21:49 AM
Also, Nintendo said before that if someone wanted to build a web browser for the system, they could. So what's to keep some clever little monkeys from creating some sort of link emulation program and downloading it into the DS?
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 21, 2004, 04:41:42 AM
Nov. 21 Release Date. That means the Ship Date will probably be Nov. 18th. So VERY VERY SIMILAR to games and systems prior.
PictoChat included. This is big. Right now in America Instant Messaging on cell phones is becoming pretty big. You can send messages to people and not have to call them.
PictoChat could take that to the next level, and really help the popularity of this system.
As everyone is saying the price is perfect, because it will allow you for $200 to get a system and potentially 2 games. Or just for alittle over $200 2 games. Awesome.
Last, if Nintendo does ship with that Metroid Hunters bonus disc then it is even better. Personally I think its going to be the entire game. I think they never meant it to be a single player game, and they are just throwing it in as a gift for the DS buyers. Hey here is a great multiplayer game for you.
This move is brilliant because it allows for DS to have a solid multiplayer experience right out of the box and its FREE!!!
GO BIG N!!!
Post by: CHEN on September 21, 2004, 05:29:03 AM
The $149.99 price point is excellent. Although I still need an extra job to buy all the things I want this year.
Post by: Bloodworth on September 21, 2004, 05:37:02 AM
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There's no way they could have designed a full-fledged Metroid game so quickly. And including it with every DS is an excellent strategy
Why? When we saw Metroid Prime at E3, all they had done was the stupid space station. If they could pull that off on GameCube in six months, I'm sure they could do it again on the DS.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 21, 2004, 05:51:46 AM
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The new media format for games means that Nintendo DS has no moving parts that could be misaligned if the unit is dropped or jarred.
Take THAT Sony PSP and UMD.
Man, it's going to be an expensive Christmas. This is what I already have on pre-order:
...and soon to be added to that list are the Nintendo DS and probably 2 games. Holy crap, that's almost $400 right there. That's not even counting other games I may buy like Tales of Symphonia, Burnout 3 and Prince of Persia: Warrior Within. BRING IT ON!!
silks
Post by: Koopa Troopa on September 21, 2004, 06:38:02 AM
Holy crap, this is outstanding. What else can I say? I can't wait to see the launch line-up.
Post by: CHEN on September 21, 2004, 06:54:58 AM
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There's no way they could have designed a full-fledged Metroid game so quickly. And including it with every DS is an excellent strategy
Why? When we saw Metroid Prime at E3, all they had done was the stupid space station. If they could pull that off on GameCube in six months, I'm sure they could do it again on the DS.
Well, Retro Studios is only developing one game, while Nintendo has dozens. And designing balanced levels for Metroid while maintaining the possibility to sequence break is no easy task. I meant that it's not very likely to see a full Metroid Hunters game at launch, so that's why they're adding a multplayer demo. We'll see the game when it's definitely ready.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 21, 2004, 06:57:11 AM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on September 21, 2004, 06:57:52 AM
Post by: Pale on September 21, 2004, 07:02:41 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on September 21, 2004, 07:30:48 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 21, 2004, 07:33:48 AM
But with the DS Nintendo is just nailing it. We were afraid these promises of new types of games would limit the DS' ability to play old style games. No problem. They designed it to accomodate every type of game and made it incredibly flexible. Some people didn't think it looked as nice as the PSP. So they changed the case design to something much sexier. When we all saw Pictochat we said it HAD to be built in or there would be no point and sure enough it's built in. Now we know that the price is reasonable, it's launching on time, and that it even comes with a pack-in title. Sure it's probably just a demo but who cares. That's a BRILLIANT move. Okay so the DS can't play GB/GBC games or play GBA multiplayer but those are minor points. The DS is still on track to have a 95% perfect launch. All we need are the games.
The best thing is that Nintendo didn't NEED to go to this trouble. They're the portable market leader. They can afford to rest on their laurels. Instead they've gone the extra mile and are making the DS a legimate super portable to crush the competition. They're earning their victory unlike say the PS2 which Sony knew was a sure winner and have half-assed it because they can.
I think this is great for the Revolution. If Nintendo has the same attention to detail with the Revolution's launch. The same developer flexibility, the same everything-out-of-the-box design, a pack-in game, the same good price they can make the Rev a serious competitor. One that doesn't get ignored and actually puts some pressure on Sony.
I'm now very excited about seeing the DS launch lineup. Don't let me down Nintendo.
Post by: BlkPaladin on September 21, 2004, 07:37:31 AM
That probally means they are trying to quickly recoup the R&D costs from the early adopters and having more money to help ramp up production to release it else where. And then bring it down to an average price. And they released it in the US first since they have a higher chance of selling more at this higher rate, and thus giving Japan the lower the rate first.
So this is probally what will happen we will see a price drop around the time the PSP comes out and it will be in the area of what the Japanese price. (More than likely $125.00) And any other price cuts after that depends on the penetration the PSP makes.
Remember this is just speculation.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 21, 2004, 08:42:04 AM
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Post by: Jdub03 on September 21, 2004, 08:45:45 AM
Post by: joeamis on September 21, 2004, 09:35:29 AM
The DS at $150 is a perfect price point, the release date is right on the money, get those turkey shoppers hoo haa. The budget for marketing the system at $40 million is the biggest ever Nintendo has spent for any system they've made, also good news. Pictochat and MPH demo included also great thinking by Nintendo, although I'll probably never get to utilize either of those. And I'm sure having the packins be multi player only will get people to try and convince their friends to get the DS so they can enjoy the two pack ins.
October 7 will be the day they announce the software for the system as well as software pricing. Games will probably cost $35. Also to note is that Nintendo is putting 12,000 DS demo consoles at retailers for the launch, including some spots with 2 DS systems for people to try the multiplayer out. Also of note is that Nintendo will produce 4 million systems by March, up from the previous quota of 3.5 million.
The reason the DS is launching in NA first and Japan later is because the holiday shopping seasons for each country is different. People buy gifts for Xmas in the US and people in Japan buy gifts around New Years. As for it being cheaper in Japan, I'd say that's because the market isn't doing as well as NA's (videogame market).
All in all this is great news from Nintendo, looks like they're finally committing to a successful launch in every aspect possible. The only sour note out of everything, is that battery life has been lowered from a solid 10 hours to 6-10 based on application. That's one thing that helps the PSP in the area that many see as it's achilles heel.
Kudos to Nintendo, I thought they should have a pack in when I first heard of the system, actually I thought GC should've too, I think any new console should have a pack in of some type, it really helps. The marketing and everything they're doing are going to ensure they have a good run vs the PSP. Now the only thing that matters is the launch titles. Will they be as great as the DS console news heard today 'round the world? We'll find out real soon.
Post by: joeamis on September 21, 2004, 09:37:20 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2004, 10:17:23 AM
Why everyone thinks this is a bad thing is beyond me...Think about it...The SP has a single front-lit screen...The DS has TWO, BACK-LIT screens...Big difference with a small difference in battery life(not to mention that the wireless play most likely drains the DS)
Post by: b0rg on September 21, 2004, 11:24:11 AM
I am a little confused about the WiFi/Multiplayer. Will you be able to link up over the internet and play anybody online around the world, or is this strictly for playing with someone next to you?
Thanks!
Post by: nyenyec on September 21, 2004, 11:31:51 AM
I've been holding out on buying multiplayer connectivity games like Four Swords Adventures and Chrystal Chronicles until I buy another handheld.
So will I be able to play them with the DS?
Thanks,
Nyenyec
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 21, 2004, 11:38:25 AM
I am convinced that the gamecube is the greatest console ever released. And the DS is my most anticipated console ever. And it WILL be the best console ever.
I am piss. <3
Post by: Renny on September 21, 2004, 11:42:41 AM
Shame about battery time, though. That seems to put it just above what the PSP's is said to be. Edging out sub-standard is less than good. This would've bothered me before, but when virtually everything else is right, it seems irrelevant.
Anyway, great job Nintendo. :¬D
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 21, 2004, 11:46:19 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2004, 11:53:34 AM
Noone really knows for sure yet...Most likely it will eventually, but probably not to start off...
"Does the DS support the GBA/GC link cable?"
Nope...
Post by: Perfect Cell on September 21, 2004, 12:00:57 PM
Disapointed that Metroid Prime Hunters isnt a launch titles, but ias long as they get a good long single player to go with the multiplayer then its alll good
Now we just need some Launch titles... and lots of em
Post by: Renny on September 21, 2004, 12:06:49 PM
Oh, and bite me Creative.
Post by: Nile Boogie on September 21, 2004, 12:08:49 PM
Not that any will belive but Madden2005 is a lunch title and you tap the touch to throw the ball and make hot routes with the stylus. Confirmed!
Post by: couchmonkey on September 21, 2004, 01:33:31 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on September 21, 2004, 01:41:42 PM
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This makes me think if 6hours is the min battery life for the Ds then how can the psp possibly last longer than 3 hours with moving parts and a huge screen.
The rumored numbers on the PSP's battery life are "2-10 hours". The "10 hour" figure is for playing Sony-branded MP3s, which run off the Memory Stick (which is like a cartrige) not the mini-DVD drive, having the screen turned completely off, and probably listening with the headphones, not the built-in speakers. The "2 hour" figure is if you try to watch a movie on the thing. Videogames will be in-between somewhere, likely on the bad-end on the scale.
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Mabye the battery is as big as the unit itself.
They've already talked about a "Battery Expansion Pack" for the PSP, which you can strap onto your forearm.
Post by: joshnickerson on September 21, 2004, 01:43:09 PM
Seriously? No, seriously?
If that's true, just chuck the "coolness" factor right out the window.
Post by: ruby_onix on September 21, 2004, 01:50:29 PM
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According to the article, the PSP battery pack is meant to be worn on players' wrists -- we're not sure how this works, considering that the battery was nearly the size of the PSP at E3 (the article mentions that the final version will be 8mm thick). Running time of either the battery pack or the system itself was not discussed.
Post by: Pale on September 21, 2004, 01:51:59 PM
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Post by: Mario on September 21, 2004, 02:39:21 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 21, 2004, 03:06:43 PM
The Spidey Senses energy-saving Sleep Mode doesn't count towards the 6 hours as normal operation would, I'm inclined to think.
Post by: Pale on September 21, 2004, 03:14:04 PM
So nintendo is officially gonna make us start pokemon over AGAIN. =P
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2004, 03:42:06 PM
Post by: Zach on September 21, 2004, 03:45:12 PM
Post by: Chongman on September 21, 2004, 03:51:03 PM
this is like watching your favorite sports team suddenly get an all star player out of nowhere and then lighting their opponents on fire.
how those two go together...just use your imagination
Post by: Bloodworth on September 21, 2004, 04:19:31 PM
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The GC MP wasn't basically done in the last 6 months, just because they only showed the Space Station. That's all they felt confident about showing, among other reasons
No seriously, that's what Nintendo told us at E3 this year. In terms of level-design, the space station was all they had complete. They did that entire planet between E3 and November. Of course, just like any game, it takes time to get your engine and assets all put together first.
Post by: Zach on September 21, 2004, 05:05:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Chongman
this is like watching your favorite sports team suddenly get an all star player out of nowhere and then lighting their opponents on fire.
Ninty may have gotten their all-star player, but they havent set the PSP on fire.........yet. Maybe now sony will realize that they cant just expect to be the leader of any video game market, just because they are sony. I am glad to see that Nintendo is taking sony seriously this time.
Post by: kennyb27 on September 21, 2004, 05:23:41 PM
I thought the best number I read when reading this wasn't 149 (although that was incredible), but was instead 40 million. That just blew me away. $40 million on marketing, nice job Nintendo!
Post by: BigJim on September 21, 2004, 06:12:38 PM
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Originally posted by: b0rg
Hey all..
I am a little confused about the WiFi/Multiplayer. Will you be able to link up over the internet and play anybody online around the world, or is this strictly for playing with someone next to you?
Thanks!
The built-in WiFi adapter makes it compatible with 802.11 wireless internet adapters, meaning it can be connected to the internet for (broadband) internet play.
The DS ALSO has a separate multiplayer connectivity for nearby players.
Post by: Chongman on September 21, 2004, 06:59:59 PM
even if nintendo doesn't sweep the consoles like they did last year, they'll still win this holiday season...so regardless of how well halo2 sells, ninty can stand their ground.
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 21, 2004, 07:07:48 PM
Post by: 3rdrocket on September 21, 2004, 07:33:42 PM
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Originally posted by: Chongman
this is like watching your favorite sports team suddenly get an all star player out of nowhere and then lighting their opponents on fire.
how those two go together...just use your imagination
LOL thats exactly what it seems like to me. I couldnt have put it better
Post by: KDR_11k on September 21, 2004, 11:37:24 PM
The 6 hour minimum is likely a lab number, full load all the time. WiFi eats lots of power and I'm sure their full-load test also included full WiFi use over that entire time. Nintendo is REALLY conservative when it comes to these numbers, not saying anything they haven't made the system do. 6-10 hours is probably like the GC doing 10Mtris/sec maximum. People like me, who always turn off e.g. the sound of a handheld in public, are likely going to have more battery life than an all out online gamer. WiFi is the main power eater and it's not going to be used that much in a real life situation.
Post by: Bloodworth on September 21, 2004, 11:59:04 PM
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They could have finished all but one room in a sector and call it "incomplete".
How about we breathe and re-read my entire post instead of treating one sentence like an isolated statement?
Post by: Caliban on September 22, 2004, 02:19:22 AM
Post by: vudu on September 22, 2004, 03:14:54 AM
Quotehas nintendo specified if that's 6-10 hours when playing a DS game? could it be ~6 hours when playing a DS game (which uses 2 screens) and ~10 hours when playing a GBA game or a DS game that only uses a single screen?
Battery: Lithium ion battery delivering six to 10 hours of play on a four-hour charge, depending on use; power-saving sleep mode; AC adapter
Post by: KDR_11k on September 22, 2004, 04:36:49 AM
Caliban: Silver&Black is one system color, the thing just has two colors in its design.
kingvudu: I'd guess that means DS games. WiFi makes much more of a difference than DS/GBA.
Post by: Pale on September 22, 2004, 04:39:55 AM
QuoteI know they will be making one. What I meant was that there would be no way to transfer GBA pokemon to it because of lack of link up ability...thus we will be starting over again. =P
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
It should be obvious that a Pokemon DS will be made...Just keep your SPs...
Post by: joshnickerson on September 22, 2004, 05:14:51 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 22, 2004, 06:24:34 AM
But even if not, we started over with Ruby/Sapphire...Didn't bother me in the least...
Post by: KDR_11k on September 22, 2004, 08:15:09 AM
Post by: Tuxedo.Bond on September 22, 2004, 08:22:40 AM
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In effect, Nintendo DS already boasts a library of more than 550 games because it is compatible with single-player modes of games made for the world's best-selling video game system, Game Boy® Advance SP.
I'm a little bit dissapointed that Nintendo didn't set up a system where the DS can "emulate" the GBA's Link Cable over the wireless connection. Sure, maybe you could never do GBA-to-DS connections without the link port, but if those Warp Pipe guys can emulate the GameCube's System Link LAN connections over the internet, it shouldn't be too hard for Nintendo themselves to do something similar for DS-to-DS GBA-game linking.
And, seeing that Nintendo seems to be saying "30-100 feet" now for the wireless range (as opposed to just "100 feet, or 30 meters"), it's annoying that it's apparently not even compatible with Nintendo's recently-launched "Wireless Adaptors" for the GBA (which themselves are only compatible with select games).
Edit: But I guess combined with it not playing GBC games (which seems to be all-but-confirmed now), we'll just have to live with the DS "not being a perfect GBA replacement". It just seems like a shame to me, since it's so very close. I guess I'll just have to live with my not-yet-portable GameBoy Player.
From what I heard it's supposed to have a range of 30ft minimum and up to 100ft in open/clear areas.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 22, 2004, 08:31:51 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
It was revealed that DS software can access the GBA port, why are you still speculating about that?
There's a difference between having the ability to link the two games up and actually making it so...
Post by: vudu on September 22, 2004, 12:23:19 PM
Quotewouldn't the difference between playing DS and GBA games be quite large considering two backlit screens for DS games and only one for GBA?
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
kingvudu: I'd guess that means DS games. WiFi makes much more of a difference than DS/GBA.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 22, 2004, 04:08:34 PM
Hey Shin'en have it ready for launch okay love ya' bye (SWEET KISS, RAWK)
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 23, 2004, 04:53:46 AM
If a messageboard "family" can't be forgiving who can.
*LOL*
Post by: KDR_11k on September 23, 2004, 09:48:36 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 23, 2004, 10:31:37 AM
Post by: ruby_onix on September 23, 2004, 01:07:13 PM
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I think it is important not to edit posts...sometimes we make mistakes.
If a messageboard "family" can't be forgiving who can.
You do it like this:
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2 days before Halo 2....sweet Jesus!
Edit: wait....im thinking november......wow im a dumbass.....
Post by: joeamis on September 23, 2004, 05:27:11 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Monkey: Um, Shin'en's track record isn't the best, why are you that hyped up for a game by them?
Well I'm keeping an eye on Nanostray myself, Iridion 1 was technically great, but the gameplay wasn't hot. They learned from that and made the gameplay much better in Iridion 2. Now with Nanostray it looks like a technical marvel on the DS, and hopefully they've combined the technical marvel of Iridion 1 and the gameplay of Iridion 2 together, and increased on it as much as possible.
As far as the PSP battery size, I doubt it's going to be noticeably big at all, that's one thing that Sony has an upperhand over Nintendo is on rechargeable batteries, they've been creating them for decades and have tons of experience making/using them in their plethora of handheld electronic products. That alone will probably make the PSP battery life respectable compared to the DS. I'd be surprised if it's not atleast 60% as long as the DS battery life.
Post by: Pale on September 23, 2004, 07:45:17 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on September 23, 2004, 10:54:29 PM
Post by: odifiend on September 24, 2004, 04:35:56 AM
Are you talking about a battery specifically designed for the PSP? If that's the case, how will consumers replace a 'special' battery? Otherwise, I'm guessing both DS and PSP are using some kind of lithium battery- and in that case what is to stop the consumer from putting 'a superior' Sony battery in the DS? A sony battery will not destroy a DS b/c they're from rival companies...or will it ?
Post by: vudu on September 24, 2004, 07:30:27 AM
QuoteNews - PSP Battery Life ‘Leaked’
Originally posted by: PaleZer0
Now that Nintendo has drawn first blood, I guarantee sony will come out with almost the exact same figure... 6-10 hours. We really won't have any idea until next spring though. As one who sells camcorders for a living, if I have to explain to one more customer why Sony's battery figures on paper are soooo inflated, I may just shoot myself.
you are a wise man, palezer0.
Post by: Chongman on September 24, 2004, 02:41:41 PM
I'm going to say its an average of 7 hours per game, not 8...
or 8 at the max with the psp set on the lowest back-light setting and no music whatsoever
Post by: Renny on September 24, 2004, 04:25:36 PM
Post by: Chongman on September 24, 2004, 05:28:42 PM
If psp launches WITH advent children...
wow....that'd be killer...totally killer...they wouldn't need any good launch titles and they'd still sell by the truckload
Post by: Bloodworth on September 24, 2004, 09:03:57 PM
Post by: fun2program8 on September 25, 2004, 06:31:22 AM
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=ds&message.id=105479
Post by: fun2program8 on September 25, 2004, 06:32:49 AM
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=ds&message.id=105479
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 25, 2004, 07:25:45 AM
(Aha, there's a link to PGC in there)
Post by: Bloodworth on September 25, 2004, 11:06:41 AM
Post by: past pixel on September 25, 2004, 05:42:12 PM
http://img69.exs.cx/img69/1520/omg2.jpg
Post by: KDR_11k on September 25, 2004, 10:02:19 PM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on September 26, 2004, 03:35:52 PM
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If psp launches WITH advent children...
wow....that'd be killer...totally killer...they wouldn't need any good launch titles and they'd still sell by the truckload
Um, where did you see PSP launching with FF:AC?
FF:AC might be out for the PSP launch, but I've never heard anything about a pack-in. Assuming that is what you meant. If all you meant was that FF:AC will be out at the same time PSP: So what? Who is going to be stupid enough to buy a movie on a proprietary format like UMD, when they can buy a DVD?
Also, I'm curious, has anyone asked sony about rewinding movies? I know I'll very often run back if I miss a line or something. I wonder if Sony has factored that in at all.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 27, 2004, 03:01:23 AM
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Post by: Chongman on September 27, 2004, 01:19:14 PM
huh??
*confused about the rewinding thing*
what i meant by advent children is yeah, if it were a pack-in, a lot of people would buy it. Would I? Heck no, but a lot of other people would I think.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on September 27, 2004, 01:30:30 PM
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Post by: PaLaDiN on September 27, 2004, 01:48:37 PM
Even if it's 350 though, people will buy it.
Post by: TMW on September 27, 2004, 02:54:31 PM
However...I doth want that DS. I'm selling my Dreamcast and my GBA, and going without real food for a month. But I will have that DS.
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 27, 2004, 03:28:42 PM
Post by: TMW on September 27, 2004, 04:38:22 PM
Still. Thats halfway there. No complaints on my part.
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Well...maybe Sony will wise up. I mean...Nintendo has basically done everything it could to blow the PSP out of the water, and Sony isn't going to take this sitting down. I really don't see Sony taking a huge blow to profits just to compete with the DS, so they'll probably throw in a game with it, or maybe a free movie offer.
Someone said they might offer FF:AC with it. ...if I were Sony, that would be exactly what I would do. It seems to be the only way they can even think to compete. AC is the kind of "event" that could sell a system, if done right, and Sony could bundle that in and minimize losses, while keeping some semblance of competition with The Big N.
