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Title: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Phlash on September 14, 2004, 11:08:29 PM: Is it actually coming out on the GC?
I have looked at loads of retailers and there doesnt seem to be a release date for it, and it never says GC on the adverts.
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: DrZoidberg on September 14, 2004, 11:39:52 PM: No, it hasn't been announced for GCN thus far, and it probably won't be (unfortunatly)
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 15, 2004, 03:33:29 PM: Sadly Acclaim was willing to publish a Gamecube version of Burnout 3 before EA snatched criterion.
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: KDR_11k on September 15, 2004, 08:32:39 PM: Nope, before EA bought Criterion, Acclaim stated BO3 will NOT come to the GC, EA announced it would (Nintendo has some kind of deal with EA). I heard the decision against a GC version w as made by Criterion themselves.
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Post by: Berto2K on September 15, 2004, 10:29:56 PM: As of right now there is no Burnout 3 for Cube coming. Criterion is still sticking to the lie that the game in "online centric". Everywhere I have heard, the entire game is available offline. The only perks for online are pretty much online rankings, and racing other people.

A damn shame. I liked most of BO2, but not enough to buy it. This was supposed to fix those errors and improve on everything. Cube version of BO2 sold more than Xbox version too.......
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 15, 2004, 10:51:41 PM: As old as this news might be, it's another chance to vent.

I really hate Criterion for doing this. I was one of the few to own the first Burnout when it came out. And yes it was the GCN version I bought. Then when Burnout 2 came out Accalim decided to only produce enough copies to cover pre-orders plus a minimal amount of extra copies which made the game as rare as a freaking sasqautch to find. Then it turns out that BO 3 won't even be making it to the GCN. What a bummer! I am an avid fan of the series. I defended it when others said it was lame. I even went so far as to say it was better than Need For Speed. And what do I get for my loyalty? I get didily freaking squat, that's what I get.

It's enough to make me go fanboy all over Criterion for this. But I'm too mature.

...oh what the hell...

Kryteareeon is TeH SUK!!11 I hop Thay Dy!!!!11111oneoneone
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Mario on September 16, 2004, 12:44:16 AM: Yeah! f*ck you Criterion! Or whoevers fault it was!
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Bloodworth on September 16, 2004, 01:11:56 AM: You want to know how online-centric Burnout 3 is? Go check out Penny Arcade's post on Monday. It's a freaking joke to use that as an excuse not to bring it to GameCube.
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Syl on September 16, 2004, 03:30:45 AM: I'm going to mention the fact that Burnout 2 actually sold better on gamecube than xbox, and i'll also mention how there isn't a single decent racing game coming out for the cube this year (Is NFS:underground 2 coming out?), EA would have had a monopoly with Burnout 3, and i'm sure it would have an incredibly large number of units.

I'm horribly dissapointed in this, i wanted burnout 3 from the moment it was announced.
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Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 16, 2004, 04:16:18 AM: I have burnout 3, I don't have xbox live. The game is amazing. I have no need to play online the game doesn't need to be online. The multiplayer mode is amazing without being online.
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Post by: joshnickerson on September 16, 2004, 04:43:03 AM: I never got into Burnout, and when they annouced Burnout 3 wasn't coming to the cube, I expected it was the online factor, like they said. I expected them to have all kinds of online options, down to the point where you NEEDED to be online to be able to play this game. But now that it turns out the entire game is playable offline (really, the only exclusive online feature is the bloody high score posting) I think it's kind of weak they used that excuse. I'd like to know why they REALLY decided to shaft Cube owners.
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Rhoq on September 16, 2004, 05:45:19 AM: Words can’t even begin to describe how happy I was when Burnout 3 was announced. It is my favorite racing series of all-time. I absolutely loved the first 2 games and I knew they sold fairly well on the ‘Cube so I took it for granted that BO3 would find it’s way to the GameCube. After months of speculating, EA had finally announced that the decision was made to pull the plug on the GCN build due to Nintendo’s lack of on-line support. With that announcement, it seems that my world came crashing down (OK, not really – but you get my point).

Anyways – now that it has been released for the PS2 and X-Box, I have read a countless number of reviews, all in agreement, that the on-line portion of the game is more of a gimmick than a feature central to game play. I have also read that the off-line game is full-featured and would have been a great addition to the GameCube library, I wonder if EA and Criterion will make an “about face” like Midway recently did with the new Mortal Kombat game and release it on the ‘Cube (minus the on-line mode) sometime next year?
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Post by: couchmonkey on September 16, 2004, 08:21:34 AM: I wouldn't be surprised if EA reconsiders...the first two games sold well on Cube and the Nintendo community is screaming for this game, but Criterion has denied that a Cube version is in the works so long and so hard that I'm not counting on it.
If EA brings Burnout 3 to the Cube, I will buy it.
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: joshnickerson on September 16, 2004, 10:53:31 AM: I would kinda doubt a Midway-esque "about face" on Burnout 3. For one, Mortal Kombat was still in development when they decided to go ahead and put it on the cube as well. Burnout 3 is already out. Sadly, if we get anything, anything at all, it'll be yet another sloppy, half-assed port.
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 16, 2004, 12:08:36 PM: Ah well, my dad got me and my brothers a PS2 last year. It basically just collects dust but I guess now I'll have to get Burnout 3 for it. Which should make you all happy. Because as soon as I buy Burnout 3 for the PS2 it will be announced that it is being ported to the GCN with added features.
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: joeamis on September 16, 2004, 05:11:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Rancid Planet
And what do I get for my loyalty? I get didily freaking squat, that's what I get.

Unfortunately companies don't know about the loyalty from a single person. As far as racing games for the Cube from now until the end of the year, there is:

Room Zoom- Nov 15
Need for Speed UG 2- Nov 17
GT Cube- Dec 31

NFS UG 2 is looking very good, a huge stepup from NFSUG 1 as far as cars, customization, and especially race modes. Probably the only reason I'll buy it (in addition to GT4, Burnout 3, Choro Q, and possibly Flatout) is because of the new race modes for NFSUG 2.

EDIT: I forgot ATV Offroad Fury 3, which is looking like a huge sleeper hit of the year.
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Bloodworth on September 16, 2004, 05:57:38 PM: Well, I'm still not ruling out the idea that the game could come out on GC, and I'll hold on to the possibility until February or so. I just get the feeling that Criterion wants to manipulate people into buying the versions that are currently available by not letting them hold out for the Cube version which might be a couple months down the road.
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Shift Key on September 16, 2004, 06:57:26 PM: Quote
to manipulate people into buying the versions that are currently available by not letting them hold out for the Cube version which might be a couple months down the road.

Like me I couldn't wait for news of a GC release (got 1 and 2 for GC) and so I picked up the PS2 version today.
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Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 16, 2004, 07:29:37 PM: Wouldn't this tactic take sales away from gamecube. If it came out for gamecube later the sales would be abysmal and then they would say, see this is why no one should develop for gamecube. At least midway told cube owners in time cause I was all ready to buy MK for xbox.
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Urkel on September 16, 2004, 07:43:44 PM: So... Acclaim was willing to have Burnout 3 for Cube, and EA isn't.

Ironic, especially because, like Acclaim, EA/Criterion are blaming Nintendo with a paper-thin excuse (lack of online in a game that barely uses it) to justify not making a Cube version.

Except this is worse. The previous Burnout games actually sold well on the Cube.

This is the kind of irrational decision making you would expect from Sega, not EA. Blah. Whatever.
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 16, 2004, 08:23:13 PM: Yeah I actually emailed EA about this and used that exact reason. That Burnout had thus far done well on the cube and that the competition as far as racers go was thin on the GCN so BO 3 would sell like mad. But now it turns out that it was Criterion with the stick up their butt all along so I guess I wasted my time.

EA--"You know Criterion, you may want to consider porting Burnout 3 over to the Gamecube. It sales weren't all that bad in the past you know. So what do you think?"

Criterion--"Gaymecube is TEH SUK!!"

EA--"Are you sure because the sales data insists that..."

Criterion--"We sed DUM GayMERcob is TEH SUK!! OnLYNE RULERZZ!! XBOXXX RELERZZ!!!111oneoneone"
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 16, 2004, 09:19:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: joeamis

NFS UG 2 is looking very good, a huge stepup from NFSUG 1 as far as cars, customization, and especially race modes. Probably the only reason I'll buy it (in addition to GT4, Burnout 3, Choro Q, and possibly Flatout) is because of the new race modes for NFSUG 2.

After playing the NFSU2 demo in Burnout 3, I can proclaim with confidence and POWER that NFSU2 is actually a gigantic step down from the original, which was crap anyway.

Drive around a totally non interactive, boring looking city and press up on the d-pad when you see green cars on the road to send them an SMS somehow. Race them, repeat. Woopee here's my $100, EA.
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: KDR_11k on September 17, 2004, 02:34:07 AM: So, what was Burnout 3 supposed to bring that 2 didn't? Finally a four player mode?
Title: RE:Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Shift Key on September 17, 2004, 05:05:36 PM: Quote
So, what was Burnout 3 supposed to bring that 2 didn't? Finally a four player mode?

~ 170 gold medals to win (60-something in Burnout 2)
~ New game modes like Burning Lap and Road Rage (the best part of the Burnout series yet WALL TAKEDOWN KTHX)
~ Six racers on track at once, up from 4.
~ Vastly Improved AI (very aggressive actually)
~ Online features allow racing and crash modes (there is a team crash mode which intrigues and excites me at the same time)

But its still only two players offline. Oh well. The awesome visuals and effects like motion blur make it more acceptable.
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 17, 2004, 05:58:25 PM: There should be rules against games being this much fun. Its really sad that gamecube didn't get a version because the game works great without being online. I haven't had this much fun in a racing game since Daytona 2 came out in arcades.
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Post by: KDR_11k on September 17, 2004, 09:32:33 PM: There should be a rule against making a clearly four player game two players only just because the PS2 cannot handle that.

And, um, did they remove the rubberbanding or is driving still just dodge the cars?
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: Renny on September 18, 2004, 06:07:06 AM: The Xbox can't handle split-screen either, it seems. Or online, for that matter. Right, Criterion?

The AI definitely has an edge. If you take them out, expect them back on your ass immediately. If they take you out, drive like a goddam pro and hope you can catch up. Otherwise the AI will start the immaculate driving and continue to widen the lead.

The winning strategy for all the race modes is; take out a couple cars at the beginning to get your boost meter maxed out. Then drive like it's Burnout 2. If the AI catches up, let them pass then take them out. Then drive like hell till they catch up again.
Title: RE: Burnout 3 on the GC?
Post by: KDR_11k on September 18, 2004, 10:29:02 AM: So it's still a gauntlet on wheels. (sorry, that sounds stupid in English, but apparently gauntlet is really the word I'm looking for. Spießrutenlauf.)