Post by: theRPGFreak on July 19, 2005, 11:36:02 PM
Im hoping that it will be anounced on the Rev. but it only seems to be coming on the PS3 and 360 for now
Post by: IceCold on July 19, 2005, 11:40:26 PM
And I believe this belongs in the "Other Systems" board
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 19, 2005, 11:41:03 PM
Post by: Michael8983 on July 20, 2005, 01:38:39 AM
I mean, if the REV really is going to utilize an innovative, more interactive interface, it could end up with by far the best (and no doubt scariest) version of the game for that reason alone.
Post by: stevey on July 20, 2005, 04:52:00 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on July 20, 2005, 06:03:12 AM
What it probably does mark is the beginning of the series being over-sequelled again. This one could turn out great, but when 6, 7 and 8 follow on an annual basis, it will get boring again.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 20, 2005, 07:13:03 AM
The fact that it's coming to Xbox 360 suggests however a potential multiplatform release across all consoles. Logically Xbox makes no sense. But then Japanese Xbox support NEVER makes sense but that didn't stop a whole bunch of Japanese third party games from appearing on the PS2 and Xbox but not the Cube.
We also have to wonder if the Rev is capable of a decent PS3 RE5 port. Rumour has it Factor 5 left because Nintendo isn't focusing enough on technology with the Rev. RE4 obviously was graphically very intense so even if Capcom still likes Nintendo the Rev might not suit the game's needs.
Post by: Rhoq on July 20, 2005, 10:44:22 AM
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Does this mean the game will never hit Revolution? Capcom isn't ruling it out.
"Capcom has a multi-platform strategy in order to provide Capcom products to as many users as possible," a spokesperson for the company told IGNcube. "Given this strategy, it is certainly feasible that other platforms could be considered at some point."
LINK
Post by: stevey on July 20, 2005, 11:13:55 AM
Post by: ThePerm on July 20, 2005, 12:10:47 PM
Post by: TMW on July 20, 2005, 01:55:16 PM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
other than metroid there have been no games announced for revolution as far as i know....so i would wait till there is some actually concrete announcements before you see any third party devs say anything about any games coming to the revolution
And Super Smash Bros.[/pedant]
Post by: nemo_83 on July 20, 2005, 01:55:50 PM
Post by: Rhoq on July 20, 2005, 02:06:03 PM
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
I hope the REV crushes the competition, and when the third parties come back begging for scraps Nintendo should pay them back by becoming majority holders in their stocks and take over their companies.
Pipe dreams, dude. Pipe dreams.
The more I hear about "Revolution", the more convinced I am that Nintendo has already lost the next generation before any of the new consoles have been released.
Post by: nemo_83 on July 20, 2005, 02:11:30 PM
Post by: jarob on July 20, 2005, 03:31:06 PM
Post by: Nephilim on July 20, 2005, 05:41:41 PM
Graphics can change the game, after all look how horrid RE4 on PS2 is *puke*
I expect a down graded port
Post by: Ian Sane on July 20, 2005, 07:24:45 PM
Post by: ThePerm on July 20, 2005, 09:26:52 PM
Post by: Dasmos on July 20, 2005, 09:43:11 PM
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
It seems there is no middle ground for Nintendo this time around. Its all or nothing. They either take the cake or they give up the console industry and stop holding Zelda hostage.
Holding Zelda hostage?
I'd rather see Zelda die with nintendo than see it go into the hands of another....
Post by: IceCold on July 20, 2005, 10:21:29 PM
Wow, they did it again. I really didn't think that they would have the balls to actually write it in an official article, but they did... An excerpt;
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Meanwhile, Resident Evil 5 looks to push the power of both 360 and PS3, running in high-definition (a standard Revolution does not support), while rendering realistic character models and environments. Given that Nintendo's Revolution console will not be as powerful as its competitors, there's the chance that it may not be able to handle the game's visuals.
Post by: Rhoq on July 21, 2005, 02:22:26 AM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Wow, they did it again. I really didn't think that they would have the balls to actually write it in an official article, but they did...
Say what you want about IGN - both Matt & Craig seem to be pretty honest about how they feel - regardless of their positions at IGN (GameCube & Nintendo handhelds, respecitvely) and their relationship with folks at NOA.
Post by: KnowsNothing on July 21, 2005, 05:14:32 AM
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Say what you want about IGN - both Matt & Craig seem to be pretty honest about how they feel - regardless of their positions at IGN
See, that's the thing, Matt writes what he feels. In an official article, he's got to just leave all his feelings out of it and report on the goings-on. If he wants to tell everybody that the Rev will be underpowered, he should do it in another editorial.
I also remember certain DS mailbags in which Craig would go off about how the PSP was better, when the PSP wasn't even mentioned in the question.
Post by: Mario on July 21, 2005, 06:03:27 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on July 21, 2005, 07:10:05 AM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 21, 2005, 09:19:46 AM
And yeah, the RE5 graphics look about on par with RE4. Hell, I'd say they were a bit worse, but that might be just wishful thinking.
Post by: hudsonhawk on July 21, 2005, 09:47:08 AM
They'll each have their pros and cons, just like the current gen.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 21, 2005, 10:06:05 AM
Asinine or not that's what 90% of the game buying public will do. The Rev can be different all it wants but "the Rev has the worst graphics" as word of mouth will hurt sales no matter what.
Post by: nickmitch on July 21, 2005, 10:20:01 AM
Post by: hudsonhawk on July 21, 2005, 10:49:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Asinine or not that's what 90% of the game buying public will do. The Rev can be different all it wants but "the Rev has the worst graphics" as word of mouth will hurt sales no matter what.
Yeah, that clearly killed the PS2 this generation, and the PS 2 generations ago. Even a pedestrian gamer can tell that the Cube and the Xbox have superior graphics to the PS2.
I think you're making the same mistake a lot of hard-core gamers make, which is that the general public knows anything about anything.
Marketing sells game systems, not specs.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 21, 2005, 11:25:15 AM
The PS2 and PS did have the worst graphics but no one THOUGHT they did and that's what's important. People assumed the Playstation had better graphics than the N64 because of FMV and the Cube is widely regarded as the weakest console for some reason. It's all what people perceive and right now the Rev is seen as the weakest console.
Post by: hudsonhawk on July 21, 2005, 12:40:22 PM
I'll give you a hint, it starts with an "M" and ends with "arketing."
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 21, 2005, 01:40:39 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on July 21, 2005, 01:58:36 PM
Nintendo failed at marketing a console that could on some occasions produce games that looked better than almost anything else on the market. If they can't convince the public when they in reality have better graphics do you think they'll have a shot in hell at convincing anyone when they in reality have the worst graphics?
I just feel Nintendo has enough going against them that having the worst hardware is going make it just a bit harder for the Rev to succeed. It's an ARTNBANC, Another Reason to Not Buy a Nintendo Console.
Post by: nickmitch on July 21, 2005, 05:14:56 PM
Post by: mantidor on July 21, 2005, 06:15:15 PM
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Originally posted by: hudsonhawk
Right, and where do people get these crazy false ideas?
I'll give you a hint, it starts with an "M" and ends with "arketing."
I thought it started with "I" and ended with "GN"
Post by: KDR_11k on July 22, 2005, 04:09:21 AM
Ian: Early this gen everyone believed Nintendo came up with the worst system because they said graphics don't matter and gave very realistic estimates of their system's performance. Now everyone believes the same about the next gen. Unless Nintendo learns about lying, deceiving, cookie-cutting and overhyping they won't win.
Post by: IceCold on July 22, 2005, 08:39:26 PM
Thanks for shattering all my lifelong dreams of everyone succeeding through fair and just means.
Post by: theRPGFreak on July 23, 2005, 11:25:13 PM
The main problem is that Nintendo THINKS that the Japan market of games is the same as Americas. It seems that they are so concerned with rebuilding the market in Japan, that they forget to realize what American cusomers want. While new game experiences can attract a wide audience in Japan, most people would rather go with the bigger and better approach that Nintendo refuses to follow.
Post by: mantidor on July 24, 2005, 09:08:54 AM
Post by: ThePerm on July 24, 2005, 10:09:02 AM
Post by: theRPGFreak on July 24, 2005, 11:05:04 AM
While this is a good point, Zelda is only ONE game that is coming out hardcore gamers are looking forward to on the GameCube this year. There are no third party games, or first party games that people are anticipating other than Twilight Princess.
Post by: nickmitch on July 24, 2005, 11:28:30 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 24, 2005, 12:20:21 PM
Post by: Nosferat2 on July 24, 2005, 01:53:47 PM
Fire Emblem looks queerish, another japanese anime Blue haired geyness, Nintendo needs to americanize their RPG's.
If you think all the good games are only on the DS then its in my honest opinion that you have issues...
Post by: nickmitch on July 24, 2005, 06:09:19 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 24, 2005, 06:50:40 PM
I was looking forward to it though.
Mario Baseball however looks like one of the most solid baseball games ever, probably more solid than whatever Nintendo's other baseball game coming out (Pennant Chace or something) is. And I've heard good thinks about Strikers...
Ooh, and Battalion Wars looks amazing, go watch the developer demo on Gamespot...
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 24, 2005, 07:02:08 PM
Why? Because America is so un-queer? Ooooookay...Let's get over some insecurities before we try and teach Nintendo to be "un-queer," k?
Post by: KDR_11k on July 24, 2005, 08:43:49 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 24, 2005, 10:53:38 PM
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Updated - Nintendo of America has stated RE5 may be announced for the Revolution when the system's details are revealed later this year and Capcom has confirmed the game will come to other systems (N Rev, PC, etc). Good news indeed! < Thanks to JeuxPo for the information >
*cracks open a fresh bottled water and pours some salt onto a spoon*
I hope this is true, but how reliable is JuexPo and where is this Capcom announcement/confirmation?
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 24, 2005, 11:36:27 PM
QuoteWhy should Nintendo deliver their ideas to Sony with a bow on top? I mean it's flattering, and all, that Sony has had to re-release their already SNES controller duplicate, not once, but twice, because Nintendo introduces the analog thumbsick and controller rumble. Or that Sony can't improve the SNES controller button layout besides turning the controller into a boomerang, so that when you toss it in anger, it comes back to you. But, flattery doesn't pay the bills, so why just essentially give the innovation(s) to Sony (or MS, for that matter) to copy, by introducing them too early, in a bid to "woo" people to the Revolution?
Originally posted by: ThePerm
Nintendo's Japan Marketing and PR people need to be fired. They don't supply info to their american counterpart..and they obsess on secrecy when it is the only thing thats hurt Nintendo's business.
Post by: Dasmos on July 25, 2005, 12:02:49 AM
Have any other RE's been on the PC?
Post by: theRPGFreak on July 25, 2005, 12:32:57 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 25, 2005, 02:18:05 AM
I don't think any other RE got ported to the PC but all the other survival horror games were ported to the PC (or, in the case of the granddaddy of survival horror, started there).
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 25, 2005, 04:55:50 AM
Post by: stevey on July 25, 2005, 08:40:21 AM
yes this is going to kill the ps3 and 360 sells who going to pay 70 bone for the game and $400 big ones for the system when they canbuy it for 30 smacker and a cool 200 for the rev yes I ratter had the re4cube bome and the re5 rev win and kill ps3 and 360 die
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2005, 08:48:54 AM
Either ou're severely over exaggerating or I'm the crazy one.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2005, 08:58:31 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on July 25, 2005, 09:06:47 AM
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2005, 09:19:46 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 25, 2005, 09:36:22 AM
Ian: I doubt that, if Nintendo says "MSRP for games is 50" then that means MSRP for games is 50. PC games here retail for 45 while console games go for 60, even for the same game. Noone dares to raise the PC game prices because the competition might not follow suit and certainly the customer won't take it.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 25, 2005, 10:09:39 AM
PC games don't require licencing fees so they're cheaper. Third parties will make a certain amount of money from $60 games on the PS3. They're going to want to bring in that same amount of return on Rev games as well. Let's say they make $20 from a $60 game but only $5 from a $50 Rev game. It's not at all unreasonable for Nintendo to have higher licencing fees than the competition. By raising their Rev game price to $60, which won't be considered too odd if every PS3 and X360 game costs that, the can make $15 which is much closer to their return on non-Rev games.
Nintendo's not in a position to tell third parties to charge less money and thus make less money per sale. The only way it would work is if Nintendo lowered their licencing fees so that it all balanced out and third parties don't lose enough from charging $10 less.
Post by: IceCold on July 25, 2005, 02:42:37 PM
Post by: stevey on July 25, 2005, 03:28:31 PM
NO! why do you hate me!
"Who the heck syas PS3 and 360 games are going to be sold for $70?!? And who says Rev games are gonna go for $30?!?"
I did! the x360 ps3 game is going to come out first at 6-70 buck then when the rev port come there be a price cut since it been a year or so.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2005, 03:54:58 PM
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"Stevey is more along the lines of an idiot, making crap up to make people correct him."
NO! why do you hate me!
"Who the heck syas PS3 and 360 games are going to be sold for $70?!? And who says Rev games are gonna go for $30?!?"
I did! the x360 ps3 game is going to come out first at 6-70 buck then when the rev port come there be a price cut since it been a year or so.
HAHAHA, way to prove a point.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 25, 2005, 05:15:27 PM
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 25, 2005, 08:18:42 PM
Ian: Licensing fees are what, 10 USD? The price difference is 15-20 Euros, 20-25 USD. The 60 Euro price was set when the consoles were new and 60 Euros were worth 50 USD but now 60 USD are worth 50 Euros and the prices didn't adjust. The PC market has no tiers where new prices could be set, people are used to 40-45 Euros per game and suddently asking for 60 Euros wouldn't work.
Post by: ShyGuy on July 25, 2005, 08:48:24 PM
I think what he was trying to say is a Situation like Viewtiful Joe to the PS2 would happen with RE5. It was released on the Cube at $49.95, then came to the PS2 a year later at $29.95
I would think if you were going to spend $10 million making a game, you'd want to release it on as many platforms as possible to recoup the increased dev costs.
Post by: vudu on July 26, 2005, 09:03:47 AM
QuoteSonic Mega Collection was released with an MSRP of $20 when it was ported to PS2 and Xbox. It was $50 when originally released on GameCube.
And ports, even late ones, don't come out at budget price.
Resident Evil 2, 3, and CV came out on GameCube at $40 MSRP.
Post by: nickmitch on July 26, 2005, 09:37:27 AM
Post by: vudu on July 26, 2005, 09:51:59 AM
Post by: Mr. Saturn on July 28, 2005, 04:31:47 PM
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This isn't surprising and not just because the Rev is so unknown right now. This is the company that sabotaged the sales of their own game by announcing a PS2 port weeks from release. Capcom's shareholders obviously aren't too hot on Nintendo right now to do something like that. I imagine Mikami's still cool with Nintendo but considering how financially Capcom's Cube support didn't really pay-off the company is probably not too enthused about the Rev. Or at least I would understand it if they weren't.
The fact that it's coming to Xbox 360 suggests however a potential multiplatform release across all consoles. Logically Xbox makes no sense. But then Japanese Xbox support NEVER makes sense but that didn't stop a whole bunch of Japanese third party games from appearing on the PS2 and Xbox but not the Cube.
We also have to wonder if the Rev is capable of a decent PS3 RE5 port. Rumour has it Factor 5 left because Nintendo isn't focusing enough on technology with the Rev. RE4 obviously was graphically very intense so even if Capcom still likes Nintendo the Rev might not suit the game's needs.
Hmm interesting although I could have sworn that nearly all of Capcom's Gamecube titles met their sales projections not all of them of course but quite a few. Of course if someone would be so kind as to verify if this info is true or not would be most appreciated.
