Topic: Mafia 88: Hey Pikmin, Four..m A Mafia! Day 8.

[Khushrenada]

Story Post.

Ah, back to falling behind on it again. My apologies. It's been a busy night and I've been doing too much posting here and on Discord and needed to catch up on things. Why did you choose now to finally Majority Vote?  

[Khushrenada]

Announcements Post

Previous Day’s Results:

Dead

ShyGuy - Red Pikmin (Killed by Day Vote)
nickmitch - Townie (Killed by Mafia Hit)
stevey - Careening Dirigibug / Bomber (Killed by Vigilante)


Alright. Let's break this down. ShyGuy was the recruited player by the Mafia from Night 6 and was voted out by a majority yesterday. The Mafia in turn took out nickmich which gave them a pellet valued at 3 points which is added to the 1 point they still had left over from recruitment putting them at 4 points. Meanwhile, the Vigilante put a hit on the Bomber and took them out.

Now, you may be wondering, isn't the Vigilante dead as well? Usually when a player hits the bomber then both are eliminated. That is usually the case but it isn't for this game and you'd think with all that I typed in the rules that I would have made this more clear. The rules for the bomber were focused on the effect they have by being voted out and eliminating all those who vote for the bomber as well as bomb rocks. However, in this game, the bomber was included with all the other non-Mafia roles when I assigned out pellet values and even damage effects. In fact, the bomber had a damage effect assigned to them. It makes no sense to do that if a Mafia member targeted the bomber for a hit. They have to hope that the circumnavigate the damage effect just to get blown up anyways and then still don't get the pellet value assigned to that player? The only role that mentioned being blown up with the Bomber was the Killer role. The Killer would go down with the Bomber making that role the Killer's Achilles Heel as it were. However, the Vigilante role did not have that restriction or warning if they hit the Bomber. So, just like the Mafia could successfully hit the bomber and survive, the townie Vigilante could also get that same privilege. Since the Bomber is not on the townie side, the Vigilante stays a Vigilante and is not changed to a Killer role. Hope that's clear and makes sense to you all.


Current Master Onion Total: 4

Voting Time: For Day 8, the Day Thread will be open for about 45 hours. Voting will end and the thread will close at Midnight EST Feb. 19 aka 9:00 PM PST Feb. 18. However, the Day could end earlier if a Majority Vote is reached.

Majority Vote: There are 8 players alive in this game meaning 5 votes would still be able to achieve a Majority Vote.

Today’s Pikmin Music: Pikmin Main Theme Remix from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.


Game has resumed.

[Luigi Dude]

So out of the 4 non-vetted posters, one of them was the bomber.  But out of the 3 left, they're the ones who voted for Xander who was mafia on Day 5.  Now Bungle5 voted yesterday, but Wah and MASB were both absent.  With only 2 mafia left would they make it that obvious? 

Then again, Wah and MASB both voted for Xander right at the last hour before the voting stopped on Day 5.  Could the mafia have felt since they might be close to being able to recruit a new member that it was better to sacrifice one to get rid of suspicion?  I mean they did post within 10 minutes of each other, which leads me to believe there was communication going on behind the scenes.

Either way I'm pretty confident either Wah or MASB are the Blue Pikmin.  But I cant help but feel the Godfather is one of the vetted players who posted yesterday.  The mafia made a hit last night meaning the Godfather is clearly paying attention.  They would have known Shyguy was the Red Pikmin so they wouldn't be blown up by joining the bandwagon.

Any other townies want to comment on my theory.  Should we try to take out the Blue Pikmin, or guess who Olimar might be?

[ThePerm]

The Detective is having me publish this:

Daily Briefing Number 2

Researched Townie Players
- One of these could be a godfather -
Luigi Dude (vetted player)
Nickmitch (vetted player)
Order.Rss (vetted player)
ThePerm (vetted player)
Stratos (vetted player)
TopHatAnt123 (vetted player)
Wah (vetted player)

Not Vetted
-one of these IS the blue pikmin, and possibly Olimar-
Bungle5
MASB


If you are the vigilante or doctor get ahold of ThePerm AND Order.RSS. Another player will be on Rotation tomorrow to release the daily vetted briefing.

[TOPHATANT123]

It's entirely possible they're both mafia.

Since Xander has been inactive for most of the game, it's possible that both Bungle and MASB bandwagoned their own team mate to build clout.

Of the two I would say MASB is more likely to be mafia, as Bungle was the first to vote, whereas MASB was the last.

With that in mind, Vote MASB

[Luigi Dude]

Yeah with Wah being vetted now, the evidence just points too strongly toward MASB.

Vote MASB

[ThePerm]

looking through their posts I'm not more suspicious of MASB or Bungle5.

Ideally they are both mafia. I'm going to go on the Bandwagon here. Either One is the blue pikmin, Olimar, or the last unvetted innocent townie.

Vote MASB

[M.K.Ultra]

Excuse me if I am incredulous after reading that I am a suspect. I would be interested to hear what MASB and Wah have to say about all of this. Yes, people in the Xander vote could have been mafia tossing one of their own under the bus just to be trusted, but couldn't the same thing be true of Order leading the vote on ShyGuy? I will sit this one out, but promise to follow this alliance should MASB be a Pikmin.

[Order.RSS]

Comparing both players:

Bungle5
Voting record: No Vote, nothing, nothing, Shyguy (Townie), Xander (Mafia), nothing, Shyguy (Mafia Recruit).
Notable votes: Day 1 the first No Vote. Day 4 they vote Shyguy, who later gets recruited. Day 5 opens the bandwagon on Mafia Xander.

MASB
Voting record: Pokepal (killer), nothing, nothing, Luigi Dude, Luigi Dude Xander (Mafia), nothing, nothing.
Notable votes: Day 1 he joins Mafia Xander's vote against Pokepal. Day 4 he pushes Luigi Dude tied with No Vote. Day 5 he pushes Mafia Xander tied with No Vote. Did not join the Shyguy bandwagon on Day 7 unlike Bungle5.

I don't see a smoking gun on either player. The fact both were instrumental in pushing Xander out is notable, as without them it would likely not have happened. Neither really capitalized on the success either to install themselves as Townie Alliance leaders.
On balance I think MASB has a slightly worse voting record, setting up ties to overrule the No Vote, but he has never No Voted this game so might just not like them as they stall the game. Bungle5 has voted against just two players and both were Mafia (eventually).

I was massively wrong on MASB last time, so I'd like not to be wrong twice in a row. Willing to change my vote based on a convincing argument. To add pressure though, Vote MASB

Since Xander has been inactive for most of the game, it's possible that both Bungle and MASB bandwagoned their own team mate to build clout.

Possible yes, but they didn't all bandwagon.
Day 5: Bungle5 starts the vote on Xander, is followed by Wah, and then MASB changes their vote from Luigi Dude to Xander as well. (MASB had voted along with Wah the previous day too).

[stevey]

Now, you may be wondering, isn't the Vigilante dead as well? Usually when a player hits the bomber then both are eliminated. That is usually the case but it isn't for this game and you'd think with all that I typed in the rules that I would have made this more clear. The rules for the bomber were focused on the effect they have by being voted out and eliminating all those who vote for the bomber as well as bomb rocks. However, in this game, the bomber was included with all the other non-Mafia roles when I assigned out pellet values and even damage effects. In fact, the bomber had a damage effect assigned to them. It makes no sense to do that if a Mafia member targeted the bomber for a hit. They have to hope that the circumnavigate the damage effect just to get blown up anyways and then still don't get the pellet value assigned to that player? The only role that mentioned being blown up with the Bomber was the Killer role. The Killer would go down with the Bomber making that role the Killer's Achilles Heel as it were. However, the Vigilante role did not have that restriction or warning if they hit the Bomber. So, just like the Mafia could successfully hit the bomber and survive, the townie Vigilante could also get that same privilege. Since the Bomber is not on the townie side, the Vigilante stays a Vigilante and is not changed to a Killer role. Hope that's clear and makes sense to you all.

This is grade A bull and I demand his head.

[Stratos]

Breadbug is not having the best of luck finding food. Breadbug keeps finding these spicy rocks that yellow pikmin like. These are not tasty and give Breadbug an upset stomach.

Fellow creatures have made compelling points about creature MASB and creature Bungle. Breadbug cannot decide so Breadbug has rolled a rock to decide who to vote for...but rock is round and Breadbug did not think this through very well. Breadbug will vote for MASB because that is what everyone is voting for.

[Khushrenada]

Day is Over.

Another day and another Majority Vote has been reached.

MASB - 5

5 is what is needed to achieve the Majority and it has been 90 minutes since that 5th vote.

That means Night Actions are now due in 12 hours from this post.