Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2005, 12:24:40 PM
May
23 -- Madagascar
June
06 -- Nintendo DS Electric Blue
13 -- Goldeneye: Rogue Agent
13 -- Kirby Canvas Curse
21 -- Bomberman DS
27 -- Meteos
July
19 -- Ultimate Brain Games DS
26 -- LUNAR GENESIS DS
30 -- NANOSTRAY DS
August
01 -- Ultimate Card Games DS
08 -- Madden NFL 06
16 -- PAC'N ROLL DS
22 -- Metroid Prime: Hunters DS
30 -- YUGIOH NIGHTMARE TROUBADOUR DS
September
13 -- Ultimate Spider-Man
22 -- WAC A MOLE DS
26 -- Trace Memory
27 -- FROGGER DS
27 -- LOST IN BLUE DS
October
03 -- VIEWTIFUL JOE DS
03 -- CASTLEVANIA DS
09 -- Advance Wars
11 -- REAL TIME CONFLICT SHOGUN
November
07 -- Mario Kart DS **
08 -- KIM POSSIBLE COMMUNICATOR DS
14 -- Electroplankton DS
14 -- A Boy and His Blob DS
14 -- ATV: Quad Frenzy DS
14 -- Black & White Creatures DS
14 -- Bust-a-Move DS
14 -- Crash Tag Team Racing DS
14 -- Metroid Prime Pinball DS
15 -- CHRONICLES OF NARNIA DS
15 -- Frogger Helmet Havoc DS
15 -- Golden Nugget Casino DS
15 -- Guilty Gear Dust Strikers DS
15 -- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire DS
15 -- Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta DS
15 -- Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga 2 DS
15 -- Mega Man Battle Network 5: Double Team DS
15 -- Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends DS
15 -- Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends DS
15 -- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney DS
15 -- Real Time Conflict: Shogun Empires DS
15 -- Snowboard Kids DS
15 -- Sonic Rush DS
15 -- Spyro Shadow Legacy DS
15 -- Super Pac-Man Pinball DS
15 -- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Mutant Nightmare DS
15 -- Texas Hold 'Em Poker DS
15 -- The Sims 2 DS
15 -- Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory DS
15 -- Top Spin 2 DS
15 -- Touch Golf DS
15 -- Trauma Center: Under the Knife DS
21 -- Animal Crossing **
22 -- DBZ SUPERSONIC WARRIORS 2 DS
** Online games
If this is accurate the November release list is ridiculous, they couldn't spread those out over the other previous months?
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 21, 2005, 12:36:40 PM
The DS is HUGE. Oh yeah, Zelda comes this year too. I don't want ANYONE complaining about Nintendo anymore EVER.
Edit: Wait....are all these games even slated for a 2005 release?
Post by: jasonditz on May 21, 2005, 12:50:54 PM
Post by: OptimusPrime on May 21, 2005, 01:48:45 PM
Post by: TMW on May 21, 2005, 02:45:47 PM
hee hee hee...A boy and his blob remake? It should come with a small bag of Jelly Bellys.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on May 21, 2005, 03:34:39 PM
Post by: Noble~Feather on May 21, 2005, 03:53:08 PM
Bomberman was pushed back for online play.
I highly doubt Lunar Genesis is releasing in July.
The Ultimate seriies was also pushed back for online play.
Metroid Prime was also pushed back, not for online unfortunately.
Post by: Artimus on May 21, 2005, 04:13:30 PM
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Post by: KnowsNothing on May 21, 2005, 09:08:08 PM
Anyway, it showed a bobbing-head dog thing. Then the Nintendo manequin hand came on and pat it on the head. "Touching is good." Nintendo DS. "touchingisgood.com"
****, it made me go visit the website even though I knew what it was about! =o
Post by: Mario on May 22, 2005, 12:27:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Noble~Feather
I don't trust this list.
Bomberman was pushed back for online play.
What? No it wasn't, it's already out in Japan. Unless every other region will have online play except Japan, but that wouldl be a bit unfair.
Post by: jasonditz on May 22, 2005, 06:02:42 AM
Post by: NotSoStu on May 22, 2005, 11:06:15 AM
O________O
Guilty Gear kicks ass!
Post by: Blackknight131 on May 22, 2005, 12:24:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Noble~Feather
I don't trust this list.
Bomberman was pushed back for online play.
Eh? So it was verified that they are pushing Bomberman back, as opposed to developing a "Bomberman DS 2 Ultra Network Battle Edition"?
Well, whatever as long as Online Bomberman can be had.
And I am definitely hoping Lunar has a lot of work ahead of it, if those initial screenshots were any indication...
Post by: Bloodworth on May 22, 2005, 03:06:36 PM
Post by: Noble~Feather on May 22, 2005, 08:22:38 PM
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Originally posted by: MarioQuote
Originally posted by: Noble~Feather
I don't trust this list.
Bomberman was pushed back for online play.
What? No it wasn't, it's already out in Japan. Unless every other region will have online play except Japan, but that wouldl be a bit unfair.
Well upon futher research, I'm not sure. Now, I believe that online play is slated for every version EXCEPT the Japanese version. Not fair, I know, but, they did the same for the European version of Rayman, which had exclusive multiplayer. There could be two Bomberman games, and the original one still has a June release. There could be two versions of the same game, and the online version will be slated for later this year. I dunno. All I know is, DS is getting an online Bomberman.
Post by: Michael8983 on May 23, 2005, 05:53:57 AM
It's got the popular recognized franchises but with new, original ideas thrown in along with entirely original, unique new games - many of which will go on to become popular franchises. If this is what the future of the DS looks like Nintendo has nothing to fear from the PSP and if the Revolution follows in its footsteps, the industry is in for a major shake up. Nintendo is capable of a lot when it actually knows what it's doing.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 23, 2005, 02:25:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Animal Crossing is slated for August 22nd. I'm not sure I'd put a lot of trust in EB's dates.
The latest issue of Nintendo Power sets a July date for AC...
Post by: Blackknight131 on May 23, 2005, 05:43:10 PM
AC remains an October affair.
Post by: Mario on May 23, 2005, 08:48:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Animal Crossing is slated for August 22nd. I'm not sure I'd put a lot of trust in EB's dates.
The latest issue of Nintendo Power sets a July date for AC...
YES!
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Originally posted by: Blackknight131
Confirmed to be a misprint, sorry.
AC remains an October affair.
NO!
Damn it, why do Nintendo release all their games at once, there's too much coming out at the end of the year, Electroplankton will sell three copies if released then, even though i'll still buy it.
Post by: therat on May 25, 2005, 11:07:45 AM
19 -- Ultimate Brain Games DS hought this was online....card one as well
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 25, 2005, 03:41:31 PM
Advance Wars
Animal Crossing
Castlevania
Electroplankton
Guilty Gear
Lost In Blue
Madden NFL 2006
Mario & Luigi 2
Mario Kart DS
Metroid Prime Pinball
Metroid Prime: Hunters
Nintendogs
Shogun Empires: Real-Time Conflict
Snowboard Kids DS
Sonic Rush
Tony Hawk: American Wasteland
Touch Golf
Trace Memory
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Viewtiful Joe DS
There's something on that list for everyone - sports, RPGs, Mario, Animal Crossing, Castlevania, Sonic, FPS, pinball, 2-D fighting, RTS, far-out games like Nintendogs and Electroplankton...my God. This Christmas for DS is going to be ABSURD. The PSP had better be coming with some sh*t, that's all I gotta say.
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 25, 2005, 03:53:41 PM
Seriously, the PSP is coming out with MGA2, Daxter, and Infected. That's all I can think of. There's another FPS, too, I think. On the other hand, the DS has over 10 must-haves and caters to every type of gamer this year. The only downside is that there might be a long drought after this influx, but there should be more than enough games out to fill that up.
I was also thinking; the DS is targeting everyone. Right now, the only people I see owning a DS, are already Nintendo fans. Right now, the DS hasn't been around long enough to have spread to the non-gamers. But, I think by Christma- erm, the holidays, by word of mouth mostly, the DS hype will have spread from gamers just about everyone, and the holidays ares the perfect time for a non-gamer to pick something up. They're not actually paying for it, so if they hate it it's at no loss to them. I'm predicting a bigger than expected sales of DS during the holidays- and we were already expecting a lot.
Post by: clevelandst124 on May 25, 2005, 04:37:06 PM
This is why
2 games. FF VII out September 13 and GTA out October 1. I personally don't really like either of them so I don't care that they aren't on DS. However they are big sellers and quite frankly the reason to own a PSP for gaming purchases.
Another thing that surprises me is that movie companies keep saying they will release UMD movies. Realistically UMD is worthless. I can't believe that any one UMD has sold 10,000, besides the pack-in. But companies just keep releasing so they must know something. In and of itself the UMD support doesn't do much for the PSP. But, most of the stores I've seen have given the PSP 4x the shelf space of the DS largely because of the extra UMD movies. Uninformed consumers could see this as the PSP having much more support and make the purchase.
Lastly, I feel the k*i*d image still haunts nintendo. It never messed up the GBA because it was the only option and the GBA was so cheap. However the DS at $150 is a big investment. You don't make that investment without seriously considering the alternatives ala PSP and GBA. The PSP has more cool factor and the GBA has the value market. Many parents aren't just going to run out and buy a DS for thier kids. I believe this puts the DS and the PSP market at teen and above which is Sony's prime zone.
I'm excited about the potential of the DS and I feel it's done very well so far. But this fight isn't over yet.
Post by: Mario on May 25, 2005, 07:45:25 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 25, 2005, 08:37:17 PM
....that'll change....
Post by: thepoga on May 25, 2005, 08:53:12 PM
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Originally posted by: clevelandst124
Another thing that surprises me is that movie companies keep saying they will release UMD movies. Realistically UMD is worthless.
Well the UMD is a really great format for games. It holds A LOT of space and makes it easier for developers to not have to cut corners, etc.
Take Need for Speed Underground 2 for example. It's not a bad game. But the music in it and the sound of the engine (no difference between different cars) is terrible. It's just bad techno music which would have had high quality liscenced music or whatever if the DS had more space. UMD movies ARE useless though. Especially when you can download movies and put it on the memory stick. But too bad memory sticks are really expensive, but one with the capacity to store a movie or two is about the cost of several DVDs. So the selling of the UMD's as movies is pretty dumb.
Post by: Mario on May 25, 2005, 09:42:25 PM
Post by: TMW on May 25, 2005, 09:49:34 PM
But, considering this is a smaller town with only a Hastings and a Walmart to buy videogames at, I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't selling well at all. I was shocked to see them in the first place.
Post by: MrMojoRising on May 25, 2005, 10:38:18 PM
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Originally posted by: clevelandst124
However, I am worried that the PSP has the potential to beat the DS in the U.S.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if PSP beat out DS in America...however I would be surprised if the DS didn't hold it's own and still kick some ass. It doesn't matter if GTA for PSP is bad because people will be like, "GTA is gangsta! I'm gonna save my money for a PSP, and some new bling, and the new 50 cent album!" In conclusion, many Americans are stupid...except me or anyone else on this forum.
Post by: RABicle on May 26, 2005, 12:19:01 AM
Post by: Blackknight131 on May 26, 2005, 12:32:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Silks
Ha, it's funny but I was just looking at the EBGames release list too. You have your typical duplicate games and sketchy release dates, but look at it this way: any game that is listed for 2005, ESPECIALLY the big ones, will be released this year come hell or high water. Having played most of the big games at E3, these are the ones that jump out at me:
Advance Wars
Animal Crossing
Castlevania
Electroplankton
Guilty Gear
Lost In Blue
Madden NFL 2006
Mario & Luigi 2
Mario Kart DS
Metroid Prime Pinball
Metroid Prime: Hunters
Nintendogs
Shogun Empires: Real-Time Conflict
Snowboard Kids DS
Sonic Rush
Tony Hawk: American Wasteland
Touch Golf
Trace Memory
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Viewtiful Joe DS
There's something on that list for everyone - sports, RPGs, Mario, Animal Crossing, Castlevania, Sonic, FPS, pinball, 2-D fighting, RTS, far-out games like Nintendogs and Electroplankton...my God. This Christmas for DS is going to be ABSURD. The PSP had better be coming with some sh*t, that's all I gotta say.
Ahhh, good to see you coming around on the ol' DS. ^___^
I really look forward to Mario Kart on this thing...Castlevania for single-player, Mario kart for Online, and of course Phoenix Wright for all my lawyer hankerin'. Ive been hearing mixed impressions of Snow Board kids tho...one especially cool little thing has me intrigued tho: I heard there was a propeller power-up in there that you would spin by blowing into the mic. Very cool little extra.
Post by: clevelandst124 on May 26, 2005, 03:03:18 AM
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Post by: jasonditz on May 27, 2005, 08:26:54 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
The last time I've seen GTA PSP mentioned a guy from Rockstar Leeds (or North? He worked on San Andreas and GTA3 GBA) commented with "Why did nobody tell me?". Take that as you want.
Rockstar's got a page up for it... its called "Liberty City Stories".
Post by: jasonditz on May 27, 2005, 08:28:39 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
I hate seeing commercials that end with "Now on (or comming soon to) DVD and PSP!" When they really should be saying DVD.
What really galls me is that they'll sell maybe 5,000 of the UMD version, and yet they don't release VHS versions of half the things except for as rental copies.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 31, 2005, 12:54:42 PM
E3 is heaven if you have a DS, because EVERYBODY there has one. I'm sure it'll be even better next year when the DS really hits critical mass. Maybe next year the downloadable demo kiosk won't be overloaded either. You can't beat standing in line and starting up an 8-way Puyo Pop Fever session with people you don't even know. And don't even get me started on how much fun a Pictochat session is when you have 10+ people involved. Honestly, E3 wouldn't have been nearly as much fun without a DS.
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Post by: darknight06 on May 31, 2005, 05:56:19 PM
I'll give you the engine sound to a degree, but the music part I don't agree with. DS can do great sounding music, afterall the sound system is better and more efficient than that of the N64. It's just that pocketeers decided to key out some godawful tunes, which you cannot blame on the system. Gameloft's Asphalt Urban GT had much better music than NFSU2. Besides I'd rather have original music over some garbage EA Trax licensed crap.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on June 02, 2005, 07:48:49 AM
Post by: thepoga on June 02, 2005, 02:10:21 PM
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Originally posted by: darknight06
I'll give you the engine sound to a degree, but the music part I don't agree with. DS can do great sounding music, afterall the sound system is better and more efficient than that of the N64. It's just that pocketeers decided to key out some godawful tunes, which you cannot blame on the system. Gameloft's Asphalt Urban GT had much better music than NFSU2. Besides I'd rather have original music over some garbage EA Trax licensed crap.
But would better music have been included if the DS had more space? That was the whole point of what I was saying. I don't question the DS' ability to have good sound. It can produce great sound. But the size of the DS cards can limit what developers want to do. If they never had to worry about the amount of space they had to work with, it would have been a lot better. The UMD in comparison has TONS of space. But it takes up battery life and loading times really suck. Nintendo should move to a similar format later on, if these problems are eliminated later.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2005, 02:17:49 PM
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Originally posted by: darknight06
I'll give you the engine sound to a degree, but the music part I don't agree with. DS can do great sounding music, afterall the sound system is better and more efficient than that of the N64. It's just that pocketeers decided to key out some godawful tunes, which you cannot blame on the system. Gameloft's Asphalt Urban GT had much better music than NFSU2. Besides I'd rather have original music over some garbage EA Trax licensed crap.
But would better music have been included if the DS had more space? That was the whole point of what I was saying. I don't question the DS' ability to have good sound. It can produce great sound. But the size of the DS cards can limit what developers want to do. If they never had to worry about the amount of space they had to work with, it would have been a lot better. The UMD in comparison has TONS of space. But it takes up battery life and loading times really suck. Nintendo should move to a similar format later on, if these problems are eliminated later.
I don't remember what thread it was in, but we were discussing how the DS game card format is able to go up to 8Gbit/1GByte and still at a reasonable price. So don't worry more space will be available should a developer need it.
Post by: darknight06 on June 02, 2005, 04:22:43 PM
You know, if Nanostray wasn't in development and footage of that wasn't going around I could see your point, but here we are with a game that arguably is technically more advanced on a graphical scale with high resolution textures, numerous special effects, and a ton of different enemy and boss models scattered through 8 different stages, yet that game seems to have a close to CD quality techno soundtrack. Then again this also could be attributed to their custom sound engine as well, but the truth of the matter is they did it.
Now that I think of it, NFSU2DS sounds like it's using the same sound engine that they used for the GBA with no upgrades at all. Same little scratches, same samples, same everything. They just mixed it differently. Chances are they probably weren't planning on doing any more than that either. One more thing, in a previous interview with IGN they specifically mentioned that storage space WASN'T a development issue they ran into.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on June 03, 2005, 03:45:42 PM
That extra storage space almost becomes a barrier to entry - once it's there, the really big and well-funded development teams make use of it, which forces everybody else to follow suit. In other words, your game loses marks if it doesn't have tons of rendered cutscenes and digitized audio.
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Post by: KDR_11k on June 05, 2005, 02:32:48 AM
darknight: Yes but it wasn't enough of an improvement to lift it above mediocrity.
Post by: jasonditz on June 05, 2005, 06:12:36 AM
Who in the world could release that game without noticing "hey, your own ship is blocking your view of the enemy 90% of the time".
Post by: Blackknight131 on June 05, 2005, 02:43:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Silks
Nanostray is great. It plays and sounds just as good as you think it does. As far as storage space goes, it all depends on what you're trying to do. Obviously full-motion video isn't the DS' forte, but it's really good for smaller developers that don't want to make games with really high production costs.
That extra storage space almost becomes a barrier to entry - once it's there, the really big and well-funded development teams make use of it, which forces everybody else to follow suit. In other words, your game loses marks if it doesn't have tons of rendered cutscenes and digitized audio.
This makes me curious...have most developers been using the 32 or 64 MB game cards?
I don't think anyone has utilized the 128 MB card yet...
That card would certainly open up the DS to high quality soundtracks.
Post by: Blackknight131 on June 05, 2005, 02:44:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Silks
See, I didn't play Iridion II. I always thought it looked real nice though. Nanostray didn't have the super-fast gameplay of, say, Ikaruga...it was more about control and the strategy of switching between several different weapons. If it would have been as frenzied as some of Treasure's shooters it wouldn't have been fun because you'd get killed while you were figuring out which gun to use.
Ahh, Radiant Silvergun, and your many, many weapons and weapon combos...how I think of thee...
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 05, 2005, 07:33:36 AM
The only solution I have to our problem is invite every grandma, grandpa, aunt, uncle, estranged second cousin, and their dog you have to wherever you live around November. That should clear a few things up.
Post by: Toruresu on July 05, 2005, 08:56:37 AM
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Old thread, I know but this is a followup to the debate from earlier about storage space. Need For Speed Underground 2 is supposedly 10MB total. If that's completely true, then it sounds like it wasn't a matter of space as much as it was somebody just wasting the amount of storage they had, especially considering that apparently the card used was 32MB. In other findings, right now 64MB cards are being used and so far three games use them, Kirby's Canvas Curse, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, and Meteos with more probably on the way.
I have a question, is 64MB the max ammount of data that a DS card can hold?
Post by: KDR_11k on July 05, 2005, 09:47:10 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 05, 2005, 12:25:31 PM
p.s. who mkes NDS's media cards again?
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 05, 2005, 08:50:55 PM
Hard to beleive...the smallest DS cards are 32 MB...and it doesnt make sense for a publisher to pay the money for those cards and not use more than 10.
I would hope the music alone would provide for this...
DS cards are currently offered to publishers in capacities as large as 128 MB. In the future, as it becomes more cost-effective, larger cards are possible. I don't see why in a year or two 256 MB cards wouldn't be feasible...course, a game like that would basically be packing larger music and movies files...i.e. a Square-Enix game.
Post by: IceCold on July 05, 2005, 09:38:06 PM
No, I thought they wer 8 or 16 MB. I know 16 for sure, but I believe there are also 8 ones.
Post by: MrMojoRising on July 05, 2005, 10:51:56 PM
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I would hope the music alone would provide for this...
From what I hear the music in NFSU 2 DS (that's a mouthful) is pretty terrible, so it probably is really bad quality/really small files or whatnot.
How much could the biggest 64 cart hold?
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