Post by: Darkheart on May 26, 2005, 06:33:03 AM
Heres some of my speculations
New Link from LOZTP
New link from wind waker ?
Crystal from Star Fox
Maybe some Paper mario people in the style of Mr game and watch
Toad
Bah i have no more time i have to go u guys throw in some
Post by: Pale on May 26, 2005, 07:02:41 AM
Ash/Hero from pokemon would be cool. Make all his special moves involve pokemon summons.
Olimar is a must.
Ballon Fight twins (just like the did the ice climbers)
They should make every pokemon starter from each generation playable and make super mushrooms evolve them permanantly for the match.
Hmm, thats all I have for now. I definately agree that cel shaded Link should be in it.
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 26, 2005, 07:06:08 AM
That is why I almost don't want many new characters added. Perhaps 4 at the most.
I remember making a list of cool characters to add in another forum somewhere, I spent time choosing characters that would only add something new to the game.
Balloon Fighter: was one choice. We have floaters, but no-one has been a pure flyer yet. Balloon Fighter could fill that niche. Bust all his balloons though, and he is in trouble.
Ditto: I like the idea of having a character that can copy other characters completely. This would be fun character for someone who has mastered the game.
Post by: The Omen on May 26, 2005, 07:41:12 AM
Post by: nickmitch on May 26, 2005, 07:51:42 AM
Post by: jasonditz on May 26, 2005, 07:52:04 AM
Post by: Pale on May 26, 2005, 07:55:50 AM
Instead of having both Mario and Dr. Wario, make it so you can switch on the fly. Maybe add in all sorts of other marios to the mix.
Luigi can switch between normal luigi and vaccum luigi.
Uhm, I can't think of anymore at the moment, but you know where I'm going with it. =P
Post by: mantidor on May 26, 2005, 08:52:10 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on May 26, 2005, 08:55:48 AM
Post by: Caterkiller on May 26, 2005, 09:10:58 AM
Post by: The Omen on May 26, 2005, 09:17:39 AM
Post by: notic on May 26, 2005, 09:21:38 AM
and btw we have enough pokemon
Post by: Pale on May 26, 2005, 09:45:11 AM
Squirtle, Charmander, and Bulbasaur would be sweet though.
Post by: TMW on May 26, 2005, 09:45:54 AM
They should totally give Samus the Dark and Light suits. It would be cool to get Leon S. Kennedy, but I don't see that happening.
FLUDD Mario and Vacuum Luigi would rock. Or have Baby Bowser/Evil Mario ala Zelda/Sheik. That would also rock most mightily.
Zelda should totally be wearing her Twilight Princess getup.
And MIDNA! Midna should totally be a playable character
Post by: Ian Sane on May 26, 2005, 09:53:02 AM
I think they should also make the different skins for each character noticably different to reflect the subtle changes in appearance the characters have had over the years. Characters like Mario and Link have had numerous different looks over the years. It would be nice if sound was taken into account as well. So if you play NES era Mario he makes NES style sounds instead of "wha-hoo". SNES Yoshi makes the "yeah-uh" sound. SNES Falco makes the "doo boo doo rad oo" sound.
Post by: jasonditz on May 26, 2005, 10:13:30 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 26, 2005, 11:49:10 AM
Mewtwo needs to stay he is an awesome power character.
Jigglypuff can go though. She was a pointless annoying character.
Luigi should be modeled after Luigi's Mansion and should be different than Mario.
Wario could be great if they made him different.
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 26, 2005, 11:52:53 AM
Speaking of babies how about a Baby Mario/Luigi character together to work as a team?
Post by: TMW on May 26, 2005, 12:05:52 PM
And their alternate cotumes should be their civvies!
Post by: Arbok on May 26, 2005, 12:07:23 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on May 26, 2005, 12:10:36 PM
Beyond that, there are tons of characters Nintendo could work with and I'm excited to see who they add, but those are the ones I really want to see in the next game.
Oh, and I totally agree about creating drastically different skins or costumes or whatever you want to call them. I think it might be hard to revert back to some older designs without changing the way the character plays, but it's a great idea. I've been thinking the same thing ever since I found out Dr. Mario was in SSB:Melee.
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 26, 2005, 12:22:31 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 26, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
Post by: Darkheart on May 26, 2005, 01:40:36 PM
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Post by: Shecky on May 26, 2005, 02:34:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
The problem with ideas for Smash Brothers characters is how to actually create new characters that bring new gameplay to the mix. I don't want just graphic swaps for characters. I want each new addition to bring something different and special to the game.
That is why I almost don't want many new characters added. Perhaps 4 at the most.
I remember making a list of cool characters to add in another forum somewhere, I spent time choosing characters that would only add something new to the game.
Balloon Fighter: was one choice. We have floaters, but no-one has been a pure flyer yet. Balloon Fighter could fill that niche. Bust all his balloons though, and he is in trouble.
Ditto: I like the idea of having a character that can copy other characters completely. This would be fun character for someone who has mastered the game.
Not to mention that it becomes difficult to balance if you want both unique moves and numerous characters...
One possibility is to lump characters that are the clones into a group... aka a "team fox" of falco, fox, maybe crystal, etc... they would all have identical moves - just different "skins" (you could even keep different colors for each character)
and Ditto would basically be a Kirby that copied all moves, that could be petty cool.
Identical could also be "near" identical - similar to how it worked in melee, but again, your getting into that balance/numbers tradeoff
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 26, 2005, 03:32:16 PM
Wario
Epona(no really!)
Tom Nook and the gitaur playing dog
Post by: mantidor on May 26, 2005, 03:40:18 PM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on May 26, 2005, 04:27:58 PM
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Poo, Wario, and Daisy (not just an outfit for Peach).
Yes!
Post by: stevey on May 26, 2005, 04:29:40 PM
More way to unlock thing! Like buy them with coin or codes just unlocking code not cheat code.(I want game and watch but the only gamer that is hard core ssbm fan live on the other side of town and cant unlock mewtwo plus I hate him he got me kick out of school a few year ago)
Post by: nemo_83 on May 26, 2005, 04:45:02 PM
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Post by: IceCold on May 26, 2005, 05:11:37 PM
Yes, and Wario better be in the game
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 26, 2005, 07:47:07 PM
Smash bros. has two basic buttons: Attack and Special Attack.
Why not add a third into the mix. Attack, Special attack, and transfomation attack. This kinda plays on MK's style mechanic, but it's much more appealing.
For example: Take Young Link. His transformations could be MM's transformations. Him turning into a Goron, Deku, Zora, and of course, himself.
Each transformation would allow for new attacks/throws and also change the characterists of the charachter. Goron Link is hard to hit off, and is slower. Deku Link is light and quick. Zora Link has the strongest range and is reasonably quick. Normal Link could be whatever he was before.
You could switch by using the C-stick (or whatever they use on the REV).
Everyone could end up having 4 different variations. Each variation could even have specific rules that apply to them. If Adult Link could turn into Oni Link, then he could only last in that form for a minute (with a timer in between transformations).
Every charachter would then have a move or form for every situation. This adds alot of strategy into the game. A good example is turning into your heaviest form at a high %.
There should be down time while transforming; an amount of time that fits in with the pace of the game. While transforming you cannot attack or block, but you can run, jump, and dodge. If you are hit while changing, it cancels the process.
There is one way to attack while tranforming, and these are called transformation attacks. They shouldn't be easy to do, nor should they be incredibly cheap once you've mastered the technique. The main purpose of these attacks are to you buy you sometime while you transform. Some of these are devasting while others are less provoking.
An example of a transformation attack is Mario turning into Fire Mario or something, and shooting fireballs in every direction. This is a quick, pretty harmless attack and it reflects onto the transformation, because its quick also.
Another example, this time a devasting attack, is Samus tranforming into her Light Suit. With two hands clenched, she starts to concentrate her energy (DBZ style). As she starts, a quasy-magnetic field forms around her. The more she concentrates, the stronger the field draws charachters in, where they "attach" to the outside and are paralized (you determine how long she concentrates, by holding a button). At some point, she hovers a few feet in the air and can now be controlled very slowly (hopefully in the direction of the foe).
Once you let go of the button, she does the samething DBZ charachters do when they transform. This time, however, the entire screen flashes white, and those who were attached to the magnetic field are hit with an extreme force. The screen returns to normal and samus has her new armor.
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 26, 2005, 08:28:27 PM
Ditto: Starts with no abilities or attack moves. Instead his copy ability can be used to copy an character on the field. Once that character, he stays that character until he taunts or is KOed.
Balloon Fighter: Perminently floats, unless he loses all three of his balloons. His speed is based solely on his balloons. One of his attacks allows is a charge move that allows him to create new balloons if one is popped. Balloon Fighter has no jump ability, so if he loses his balloons and is smashed he is dead.
Olimar: Has very minor attack abilities on his own. But once he starts using his Down special to pull Pikmin his regular attacks become more powerful and with longer range. So his normal attacks are reliant on having Pikmin pulled. His specials involve different Pikmin. Olimar is a very tricky, but powerful character to use. His Pikmin can lock on and attack any character until they are killed.
Wario: Wario is an interesting wildcard, because he just doesn't react normal to special attacks. Wario is designed to react as he does in the Wario World series. He doesn't die he is just...altered. So be careful attacking Wario. Because he may become on fire and become more power, or become undead and can't receive anymore damage. I am sure we can think of others. Wario's weakness is normal attacks though, as they can do more damage to him than specials.
Those are a few of my ideas.
Post by: Dasmos on May 26, 2005, 10:39:21 PM
Post by: MrMojoRising on May 26, 2005, 11:25:58 PM
Post by: Switchblade Cross on May 27, 2005, 12:55:36 AM
Also, I'd like to introduce not just color change, but costume change. I'w not talking complete character changes with new moves and stuff, jJust diffrent outfits. Suchs as, Adult Link could have OoT clothing, realistic TP clothing, and TP Civilian clothing, and NES clothing, each in their own 4 or 5 diffrent colors. You earn the new cloths, somehow. Buy with coins, play so many games with that character, whatever.
Now, characters that could warrent new, and diffrent moves, yet are versions of old characters would be fine. Such as, lets say we introduce Wind Waker Link. Now, his cartoony look could be played up. Foward smash could be the huge, loony-toon looking Never Happening Hammer from WW, whacking people unrealistically far, but requireing as power build-up (a-la Capt. Falcon) considering its large size. Down Smash could be the Iron Boots (working similar to yoshi's ground pound, yet you would have to jump and then put them on) could flatten characters and stun characters as they try to get up, looking like an accordion. Those boot would also be great to wear during high % times, yet you are virtually immobial. Paper Mario ... Well, I think you get my point here
Next I'd like the character select screen change to something that uses a tabbed interface, with each tab having the symbol for each videogame series, similar to how SSBM has character symbols. Triforce for the Zelda univers, mushroom for the Mario universe, pokeball for pokemon and maybe a tab for miscelanious characters that are the only ones of theirs series, IE, Mr. Game & Watch.
Now, to warrent the need for this interface, we'll need a good amount of new characters, I'm thinking 8 total (new+old) for each univers. Heres a quick selection of mine. (using some previous suggestions from this thread too)
(each universe represents a character select tab)
Mario Universe
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Koopa
Paper Mario
Kamek
Baby Bowser
Wario Universe
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Wario
Waluigi
8-volt (attacks with old school charm!)
Kat and Ana (duo ala-Ice Climbers)
DK Universe
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Diddy Kong
King K. Rool
Cranky Kong
Funky King (Plays DK Bongos!!!!)
F-Zero Universe
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Samurai Goroh
Pico
Black Shadow
Jody Summer
StarFox Universe
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Slippy
Peppy
Krystal
R.O.B.64
Kirby Universe
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King Dedede
Ditto
Meta Knight
Waddle Dee
Earthbound Universe
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Poo
Starman
Paula
Jeff
Pokemon Universe
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Ash
Misty
Brock
Metroid Universe
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Dark Samus
Ridley
Galatic Federation Trooper
Noxus
Zelda Universe
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Ganon
The Hero of Winds
Goron
Zora
Stalfos
Wolf Link w/ Midna
Miscelanious
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Pitt
Little Mack
Balloon Fighter
Olimar
Raimi (Geist, Posession baby!)
Doshin the Giant
Captian N
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 27, 2005, 05:32:31 AM
Post by: SgtShiversBen on May 27, 2005, 05:43:18 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Olimar is a great addition. His powers revolve around attacking with an army of Pikmin could be awesome. There should at least be Pikmin in the game as a powerup.
Mewtwo needs to stay he is an awesome power character.
Jigglypuff can go though. She was a pointless annoying character.
Luigi should be modeled after Luigi's Mansion and should be different than Mario.
Wario could be great if they made him different.
Just so you know Spak-Spang, Jigglypuff is not a pointless and annoying character. Not only can she do one hit kills with her sleep move, she can juggle like crazy, do the Wall of Pain, get to the top from the bottom tier in Hyrule. Also not to mention she is one of those most powerful players in the game. Just underneath Fox.
Don't diss the Puff, she is more than enough.
My suggestions for the game are basically the same as y'all, but nothing where it's changing the gameplay at all. To me, this game is exactly like Super Punch Out: simply perfect in every way.
Post by: Pale on May 27, 2005, 06:36:27 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 27, 2005, 06:55:22 AM
Fox has some great moves, I can understand why he is a great character in the game...though his speed can get you in trouble.
Post by: Arbok on May 27, 2005, 07:09:48 AM
Am I honestly the only one who really wants to see something from Advance Wars appear in the next one?
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Originally posted by: PaleZer0
I've learned not to be one to dis people's player choices in Smash. I agree with you about the Puff. One of the best characters easily. I'm curious as to how you think Fox is the best? In my experience I would take falco over him all the time if I'm looking for that type of character. How do you use him that makes him better?
Fox is much faster, and Falco is much easier to get rid of when he is trying to recover off the edge versus Fox. Personally, I like Falco better simply beacuse I love some of his edge guarding moves, but if you have seen some of the tournament videos, you can see Fox is clearly the favorite of the two.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 27, 2005, 07:11:15 AM
*I've only played Pokemon Red, where all Pokemon were neuter
Post by: vudu on May 27, 2005, 09:43:43 AM
QuoteFox is nice because his blaster doesn't stop the character in his tracks, so you can shoot your enemy and get an easy 10-15% damage without him even noticing. Do that a couple of times and it really adds up.
Originally posted by: PaleZer0
I'm curious as to how you think Fox is the best? In my experience I would take falco over him all the time if I'm looking for that type of character. How do you use him that makes him better?
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I like everyone's suggestions, but I don't think many of them are practical. Most of them would throw the character balance completely out of wack. If any one character is too powerful (or even a single move), it can completely ruin the game. Especially if it's online. For example, if your friend is playing cheap (by using the same character/move repeatedly) and you're in the same room, you can just lean over and punch him in the throat. You can't do that online.
The best suggestion thus far has been to combine characters with the same moves into different skins. (And keep Daisy as a Peach skin. She has no business having her own character.)
The worst suggestion is to add a character from Advance Wars. Sorry, Hedorah64--it's just not practical. The characters in Advance wars don't do any fighting themselves, so there's little to use for inspiration.
Post by: Arbok on May 27, 2005, 09:51:07 AM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
The worst suggestion is to add a character from Advance Wars. Sorry, Hedorah64--it's just not practical. The characters in Advance wars don't do any fighting themselves, so there's little to use for inspiration.
Oh come on, yes beacuse clearly before SSB everyone saw Captain Falcon fighting other people...
Give Strum a "Mech" handheld missile launcher, and work in his Meteor Strike and I see another playable character, and they have more to work with than Captain Falcon and he made a damn good addition as is.
Post by: SgtShiversBen on May 27, 2005, 10:20:41 AM
That's my two cents. I'm not completely for 8 player, I just think it'd be intense as Heck.
Post by: ThePerm on May 27, 2005, 10:51:08 AM
http://theperm.tetrametrics.com/Images/games/links.jpg
i like the idea with luigi where he can switch from regular to vacuum luigi
oh and it would be cool to have the startup clothes for ww and tp too
Post by: nickmitch on May 27, 2005, 03:47:39 PM
Post by: Pale on May 27, 2005, 05:30:27 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
Seeing right handed Link is a weird feeling.
Wow...you made me notice he is left handed for the first time... very weird.
Post by: nickmitch on May 27, 2005, 07:47:09 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on May 27, 2005, 09:49:32 PM
Post by: RABicle on May 27, 2005, 10:50:22 PM
QuoteHow the time must just flyyyy.
Originally posted by: TVman
I find it weird when people don't notice Link's left handedness. I remember telling one of my friends and it was all that we could talk about for weeks. The news eventually spread around the school and some guy walked up to me and started talking to me about it at random.
I also lol at the way people have been calling Pit "Kid Icarus" and suggesting that Kid Icarus should be in the game. I had this pciture in my mind of like the Kid Icarus game box walking around the stage, falling on characters. I hope just to spite you guys Nintendo put the Kid Icarus box in as an item.
They have to add Wario and Olimar. Also some characters can go, eg Pichu, Gannondorf, Dr Mario oh and ALL the clones. Eitehr give them real moves, turn them into costume changes or take them out completely.
Post by: stevey on May 28, 2005, 05:56:03 AM
Post by: ThePerm on May 28, 2005, 09:19:16 AM
Post by: Nephilim on May 29, 2005, 03:23:58 AM
would be nice for 8 players but due to lag, I wouldnt be playing it often online
then again im changing to adsl2 when my contract runs out.
my wish list:
tons of samus uniforms
a few new huge complex stages
Memory card save for each namelist person and stats (perfect dark style)
more events (maybe have a match against the hands and andross face, starfox64 style)
2 player adventure (proberly best for offline)
Post by: WindyMan on May 29, 2005, 10:14:33 AM
Pac-Man.
No, seriously. If you think about it, this would be the best time for Nintendo to go out and get them in the game. Sega and Namco have been working so well together with Nintendo, you would think that they're another internal development team. Sega's AV arm developed F-Zero, and now Namco is working on Mario Kart Arcade.
If Nintendo can get characters from third party rosters in the character line-up, not just Sonic and Pac-Man, the next Super Smash Bros. might have the highest console tie ratio (games sold to systems sold) in history.
I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I just can't help it. It just feels like the next logical step.
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 29, 2005, 10:38:03 AM
2. Sonic and Pac-Man would be rad, but I don't want to see too many non-nintendo IP in SSB.
3. Wario and Captain Olimar are musts.
4. The whole Wario Ware gang should be in there SOMEWHERE. Perhaps as pokemon-type items
5. This doesn't have anything to do with characters, really, but I want the next SSB to be cell-shaded. Or at least have SOME toon shading in there, even if it's just for Young Link and Paper Mario.
6. Ninja Kong, from Jungle Beat should be included.
7. The only Advance Wars character that has any chance would be Sturm, which I think would be pretty cool.
8. Tom Nook for lol.
9. Reggie, duh.
10. I've never played Kid Icarus, but Pit sounds like a cool character.
11. Balloon Fight Guy could work, but giving him infinite flight is stupid because he could never fall off the edge.
12. I'd like Samus' dark and light suits to be more than just costumes, but I'm not sure if there would be enough differences to warrant an in-game Zelda/Shiek-esque morph.
13. Mr. Saturn needs to make a comeback. He's the best item in the game.
14. Captain N needs to be in it.
15. King Dededededededede would make a great addition.
16. Ridley would be pretty cool, I guess.
17. Meta Knight =o
18. Perhaps Diddy Kong, where you could switch to Dixie whenever you wanted.
Post by: ThePerm on May 29, 2005, 10:42:46 AM
reggie should be the final boss
Post by: Arbok on May 29, 2005, 11:33:47 AM
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Originally posted by: WindyMan
Sonic.
Pac-Man.
No, seriously. If you think about it, this would be the best time for Nintendo to go out and get them in the game. Sega and Namco have been working so well together with Nintendo, you would think that they're another internal development team. Sega's AV arm developed F-Zero, and now Namco is working on Mario Kart Arcade.
If Nintendo can get characters from third party rosters in the character line-up, not just Sonic and Pac-Man, the next Super Smash Bros. might have the highest console tie ratio (games sold to systems sold) in history.
I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I just can't help it. It just feels like the next logical step.
I could see it happening, but personally I would rather see the SSB series just focus on Nintendo, as there are still many things that can be done with the huge library of Nintendo characters out there.
Also, branching out into third party rosters would also make the process more complex if a sequel was ever attempted, as rights for those characters would have to be agreed upon again or dropped.
On a side note, I would kill for a Marvel vs. Capcom vs. Nintendo vs. DC style 2-D fighting game.
I'm not opposed to crossovers, I just would rather not see it occur on the SSB series myself, outside of the crossovers within Nintendo games already.
Post by: wandering on May 29, 2005, 01:57:52 PM
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5. This doesn't have anything to do with characters, really, but I want the next SSB to be cell-shaded.
Agreed. I really want them to go with the comic book style they had on the 64 cover, complete with "WHACK!" and "POW!" baloons and the like.
Post by: Caterkiller on May 30, 2005, 08:13:13 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 30, 2005, 04:50:15 PM
Post by: Pale on May 30, 2005, 05:43:11 PM
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Originally posted by: RABicle
I also lol at the way people have been calling Pit "Kid Icarus" and suggesting that Kid Icarus should be in the game. I had this pciture in my mind of like the Kid Icarus game box walking around the stage, falling on characters. I hope just to spite you guys Nintendo put the Kid Icarus box in as an item.
There is nothing wrong with calling Pit Kid Icarus. Why did Nintendo call the game Kid Icarus? Its a lot different than say, calling Samus Metroid.
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on June 01, 2005, 12:02:47 PM
Post by: jasonditz on June 01, 2005, 12:21:07 PM
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Originally posted by: PaleQuote
Originally posted by: RABicle
I also lol at the way people have been calling Pit "Kid Icarus" and suggesting that Kid Icarus should be in the game. I had this pciture in my mind of like the Kid Icarus game box walking around the stage, falling on characters. I hope just to spite you guys Nintendo put the Kid Icarus box in as an item.
There is nothing wrong with calling Pit Kid Icarus. Why did Nintendo call the game Kid Icarus? Its a lot different than say, calling Samus Metroid.
Plus, in the Captain N. cartoon he was called "Kid Icarus", not Pit.
Post by: Ian Sane on June 01, 2005, 12:28:37 PM
At the time I thought that would be how Mario would look on the Cube. I don't know why they didn't use that style for the other Cube Mario games. In SSBM all the Mario characters looked cool and detailed while still looking like Mario characters. HAL discovered the holy grail. They discovered how to make Nintendo characters cool without comprimising the integrity of the characters or pissing off Nintendo fans. Had Super Mario Sunshine used those graphics and didn't have the word "Sunshine" in its title things could potentially have been very different for the Cube. HAL had the solution for killing the k!ddie image and Nintendo didn't use it.
For SSB3 Nintendo should use the HAL "cool Mario" style graphics for most of the screenshots and make those the "costume 1" designs while the costumes 2-4 are the alternative stuff like Paper Mario and Wind Waker Link.
Post by: couchmonkey on June 01, 2005, 12:55:33 PM
I'd be all for adding an Advance Wars character or two to the game, I just haven't played the series so it didn't occur to me.
Yeah, I should have known "Kid Icarus'" name was Pit, slip-up.
Post by: Arbok on June 01, 2005, 05:04:48 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
At the time I thought that would be how Mario would look on the Cube. I don't know why they didn't use that style for the other Cube Mario games. In SSBM all the Mario characters looked cool and detailed while still looking like Mario characters. HAL discovered the holy grail. They discovered how to make Nintendo characters cool without comprimising the integrity of the characters or pissing off Nintendo fans. Had Super Mario Sunshine used those graphics and didn't have the word "Sunshine" in its title things could potentially have been very different for the Cube. HAL had the solution for killing the k!ddie image and Nintendo didn't use it.
I second that, I love HAL's approach. Just a look at the trophies in SSB:M, comparing the Smash trophies to the "Classic" ones, tells you the amount of work that HAL went through in updating some of the characters while still staying true to their roots. They really did a fantastic job all around, even characters like Ganondorf were made to look better in the SSB:M design (I love the longer cape). Personally, I don't want to see them go with a "comic book" approach to SSB. I think SSB:M was about as close to perfect as a game will come, and I really want to see the Revolution title just build on that, while adding new aspects (like Adventure mode was added for Melee) to give it a fresh new appeal while not messing with what worked so well before.
Also, I'm pumped to see what type of a soundtrack this one will have, I thought HAL's full orchestra work for some of the SSB:M tracks was great, and hope they extend that even further on this one. On a random side note, I also want a update of Link's level from the N64 one to appear in the new SSB
, I missed that level a lot.
Post by: anubis6789 on June 01, 2005, 09:32:10 PM
Pit
Wario (Warioware version, not a clone of Mario)
Olimer
Ridley
King Dedede
Eagle (Advance Wars,He could be like Jin from MVC, like he could call in air strikes and stuff)
Ditto (as a random character, like Edge Master/Charade from SC)
As far as non-character specific stuff goes I would like to see the return of personalized character intros like the first SSB along with those cool still pictures that would show after you beat the game, I didn'tcare much for the screen shots used in Melee.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 02, 2005, 08:58:51 AM
Does it matter that Winamp is currently playing "Master of Puppets", S&M version?
Post by: stevey on June 02, 2005, 09:28:05 AM
Pac-Man.
No, seriously. "
Pac man will never work in ssb. sonic would work but if he in the game than I want tails, amy and all the charater for sa2b but non of the sh charater.
Post by: Pale on June 02, 2005, 09:50:45 AM
Also, one that hasn't been mentioned (I don't think) but could be fun, is Birdo. Fun trajectile attacks. Give him/her the ability to swallow other projectiles and then spit an egg that was the size of the thing he/she swallowed.
Post by: stevey on June 02, 2005, 01:03:08 PM
that would be the same as yoish and birdo is a she. yoish male-birdo female got it there the same thing like a cock and a hen
Post by: Ian Sane on June 02, 2005, 01:33:34 PM
And I'm pretty sure that Yoshi and Birdo are not the same species. If they are it's Nintendo pulling more revisionist history crap.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on June 02, 2005, 01:56:58 PM
Post by: stevey on June 02, 2005, 06:10:57 PM
Post by: nickmitch on June 02, 2005, 08:34:45 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 02, 2005, 09:14:56 PM
Post by: Truthliesn1seyes on July 09, 2005, 10:47:12 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 10, 2005, 08:20:49 AM
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Originally posted by: Pale
I definately agree that cel shaded Link should be in it.
Can they really have a graphics engine where one little dude is cel-shaded and the rest isn't?
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 10, 2005, 08:26:10 AM
Post by: Switchblade Cross on July 10, 2005, 08:49:47 AM
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Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dededeQuote
Originally posted by: Pale
I definately agree that cel shaded Link should be in it.
Can they really have a graphics engine where one little dude is cel-shaded and the rest isn't?
Super Smash Brothers!
If your have Kirby absorb Mr. Game & Watch's ability, he turns black and white. They alsy utilize a cell shading technique to make him appead two-dimentional, like Mr.G&W.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 10, 2005, 09:06:38 AM
Post by: Pale on July 10, 2005, 11:18:21 AM
That means I want things like Ridley, Andross (in some way I haven't figured out yet), Boo, Birdo, etc. to fill out the balance.
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 10, 2005, 01:34:24 PM
Mario:Bowser
Yoshi:Birdo
Kirby:King DeeDeeDee
Link:Gannon/(That Wind Wizard Guy)
Pitt:Eggplant Wizard
Captain Olmar::???
Pikachu::Meowth/mewtwo
Captain Falcon::????
Fox:
That Wolf guy)Samus::A really cool Space Pirate( Maybe one with a get pack)
Ice Climbers::????
Obviously some wouldn't have really good villians, but that is ok.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on July 10, 2005, 02:52:47 PM
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Originally posted by: Pale
I definately agree that cel shaded Link should be in it.
Can they really have a graphics engine where one little dude is cel-shaded and the rest isn't?
Twilight Princess... DUHR.
Post by: nickmitch on July 10, 2005, 02:57:46 PM
Fox:: Andross
Samus:: Ridely
Post by: Pale on July 10, 2005, 03:53:26 PM
Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on July 11, 2005, 04:49:32 AM
Post by: stevey on July 11, 2005, 11:42:06 AM
What! the big hand one of my favorite charater of ssb. How bout this time you play as him.
Post by: nickmitch on July 11, 2005, 04:06:52 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 12, 2005, 01:08:41 AM
Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on July 12, 2005, 03:32:13 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 12, 2005, 04:54:50 AM
That is Olimar excites me. He can be drastically different.
edit: I don't mean to sound demanding in that quote...just I mean any Nintendo character is cool with me if it adds something new.
Post by: nickmitch on July 12, 2005, 10:53:58 AM
