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Title: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Nintendawg on June 21, 2007, 12:59:37 PM
I was just over at youtube checking out some of the videos for the upcoming 3D battler. It looks fantastic by the way! But my main concern isn't the visuals or anything. Truthfully, I'm concerned about the amount of content in this game and if it actually warrants spending the full 50.

In my honest opinion, Pokemon Stadium 2 was the cream of the crop. It wasn't just a visual upgrade on the N64, but it offered so much more! The prizes were intense (Cyndaquills Chikoritas, come on!) There were a slew a cups, and the Gym Leader Castle which was also intense. This is probably why Colosseum lacked that genuine feeling.

Back on topic, I was checking out Wikipedia (though nothing is 100% true) and the only mode that I saw was the colosseum battles against I suppose a CPU of some sort. If this is the case, I reiterate my question. Is PBR really worth it if it lacks all that Stadium 2 was known for? You know?
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Ceric on June 21, 2007, 01:34:42 PM
The Stadium series wipes the floor with anything that Nintendo has put on console for Pokemon to date.  No exceptions.  Which is really really sad.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Patchkid15 on June 21, 2007, 01:59:33 PM
I hope it is more then Colosseum battles. Or else the game will become very repetitive quickly.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Mashiro on June 21, 2007, 04:02:32 PM
The only real awesome 'feature' of this game that makes me want it is the random online battle feature. Which, IMHO, should have been on the DS version.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Shecky on June 21, 2007, 04:07:27 PM
unless they figured withholding that would help sell copies of this version

(not that I agree with that, but I wouldn't be all that surprised...)
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Arbok on June 21, 2007, 04:12:09 PM
Considering how rampant hacking is (Wonder Gaurd Spiritombs, etc), I'm not sure I would really want to play the game online with "random" people.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Mario on June 21, 2007, 04:29:42 PM
Nintendo has started banning people who use action replays in their game from using WiFi. I agree with Pokemon Stadium 2 being the best, along with being an awesome battle game with every single Pokemon freely available already with movesets, it also had cool mini games.

Battle Rev seems to at least attempt to fix the console franchise by getting rid of that awful RPG mode and just focusing on battling. However it seems really rushed, as it was pretty much a Japanese Wii launch title. It will be worth it for me just to battle my Pokemon in more epic style, but most non-hardcore Pokemon fans probably wont think its worth it. It depends, I haven't seen what it fully offers yet, thanks to crappy media previews.  
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Mashiro on June 21, 2007, 06:22:48 PM
@Shecky: I was thinking the same thing.

@Arbok: Maybe but after playing Planet Puzzle League I would at LEAST like the option to play against random people. Random battle in PPL is so much fun and TBH it would add a lot to the pokemon game if it had such an option. Not everyone hacks =)

Just thought I would like to add . . .

Why doesn't nintendo take the opportunity (I mean charing 50 dollars for the game and all) to make Battle Rev the first "online" pokemon game with leader boards or a scoring system or something. Nintendo should REALLY start capitalizing on the online possibilities with Pokemon . . . if not in the form of an MMO then with some structured battle league to make competing against others seem all the more awesome.
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Caterkiller on June 21, 2007, 07:26:42 PM
Its worth it for me because its because of the stadium style games that I learn almost every trick in the world about pokemon first hand. Befor Stadium one, I never knew the value of thunder wave, amnesia,  leech seed, or wrap.

This is how I prepare myself against most everything.  
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: NeoThunder on June 21, 2007, 09:46:10 PM
it probley wouldn't have been worth it for sure if they did not include online since pearl and diamond have online.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Pale on June 22, 2007, 03:02:08 AM
New preview up...

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/previewArt.cfm?artid=13690

Still no sign of our review copy, which is kind of frustrating, but I hope to get a review up ASAP as soon as it arrives.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Mario on June 22, 2007, 03:07:01 AM
Cool, how many rentals are there? 10 or 20 or hundreds?
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Nintendawg on June 22, 2007, 06:16:30 AM
Word. Before Stadium 2, I knew nothing of physical and special attacks and all of that. That entire lecture hall was so sooooo useful!

I'll eventually get PBR, but I sincerly hope there is more depth to the game than that.

EDIT: I just went over and read the preview. Though it lacks the minigames, it seems as so they'll have tournament cups a la Stadium 2 and will offer special prizes. Awsomeness! As long as there is a PC to organize the pokey mans, I'll be 100% satisfied. I'll be getting this regardless of the review!
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: cubist on June 24, 2007, 07:06:57 AM
Is it worth it?  I'm new to the Pokemon gaming scene.  I never really bought anything Pokemon until Diamond and Pearl.  I've invested in headsets, 2 DS's, both copies...and now I'm going to pick up PBR.  Looks like it doesn't matter for me at this point...I invested time to get myself and my Wii online...and to take friends codes and kick ass!!!

Hmmm...I like that...taking friends codes and kicking ass!...HAH!...I made another funny!!!...and now I'm laughing at my own joke...MUA HA HA HA HA!!!
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Nintendawg on June 24, 2007, 10:11:30 AM
^lol you bring up a good point. I've been into series since the orignal, have bought two transfer paks, bought a slew of different colored Pokemon games and here I am at age 20 still playing the same franchise! I say thats its totally worth, because I did end up buying Colosseum afterall, why stop there?
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Crimm on June 24, 2007, 10:32:27 AM
Well Circuit City is going to sell it for $39.99 ($10 bucks off) and that makes it more than worth it for SURFING PIKACHU!
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Arbok on June 24, 2007, 12:15:14 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Caterkiller
Its worth it for me because its because of the stadium style games that I learn almost every trick in the world about pokemon first hand. Befor Stadium one, I never knew the value of thunder wave, amnesia,  leech seed, or wrap.

This is how I prepare myself against most everything.


Oh I agree fully there. The first (or second in Japan) Stadium definitely improved my skills in the game, and taught me the power of a Magneton running Thunder Wave, Double Team and Supersonic. Or really just the usefulness of Double Team in general, which I totally overlooked in the Red/Blue days.

However, with the Battle Tower around now, its use for that seems... fairly limited.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: tiamat1990 on June 24, 2007, 11:52:09 PM
I never liked these stadium games...it's just there for you to see your Pokemon in 3D.  
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 25, 2007, 08:14:37 AM
Not worth it.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on June 25, 2007, 09:06:02 AM
Back during my Pokemon fanatic stage I thought Pokemon Stadium was a fantastic, if only because it was great seeing your characters in 3D. I spent day and night battling all the gym leaders, beating all the cups and even beating Mewtwo. Pokemon Stadium 2 was just as good, even if the computer cheated on occasion.

But now that my massive Pokemon fandom is nearly dead (I still like Pokemon, i just don't pay attention to it as much as I did back in the day), I could care less about the Stadium game. I just wish they get worked on a real Pokemon game for the consoles, not just spin offs or tacked on adventures in Battle simulators.

Battle Revolution looks neat, but like I said, my interest on it is nearly diminished.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 25, 2007, 09:34:16 AM
It's just a fad.

Nintendo has the DS now, so they don't need Pokermawn as a cash cow.

Nintendo should've been working on original projects and canning others.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Pale on June 25, 2007, 10:28:27 AM
Hey all.  I just wanted to throw in here that it sucks that I didn't get an early copy of the game to do a review.  I will be getting it tomorrow and I hope to have the review up ASAP, so an NWR review is coming if you want to wait before shelling out the money for it.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Mashiro on June 25, 2007, 11:20:29 AM
Good to hear Pale =)

And (to professional 666) can you really call Pokemon a 'fad'? Considering the same formula has been used for what, 10 years now and it still sells like crazy . . .

Cash cow yes, but fad no.
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Crimm on June 25, 2007, 01:10:38 PM
POKEMON IS A FAD!

Also: Satanic.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Mario on June 25, 2007, 02:35:16 PM
Quote

But now that my massive Pokemon fandom is nearly dead (I still like Pokemon, i just don't pay attention to it as much as I did back in the day), I could care less about the Stadium game.

Strange that you care a lot then.
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: UniversalJuan on June 25, 2007, 06:39:41 PM
All Pokemon console games have sucked after Stadium 2 due to the removal of the single best aspect of Stadium 1 and 2...Dodrio GameBoy. Dodrio GameBoy was the very reason to own Pokemon Stadium. Now, did I buy Colo anyway? Yes, yes I did. Did I buy XD?  HElls no, I'm not quite THAT much of a PokeWhore. Will I get Battle Rev? Yes, yes I will due to Wi-Fi alone.  That is all.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Ceric on June 26, 2007, 02:02:28 AM
Seeing the pokemon in 3D would be something for me but I don't think they have improved what they actually look like since Stadium.  They all look plasticy and not how I imagine they would actually look.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 26, 2007, 07:08:04 AM
Do you want cel-shading?

Or do you want crotch-fur-rendering?
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: ShyGuy on June 26, 2007, 07:22:03 AM
Ten years from now, developers will give their games a plastic look on purpose and it will be a retro and hip art direction.
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: cubist on June 26, 2007, 12:41:16 PM
I just picked up my copy...now I just have to wait to get off of work to play it...

I'm sure it was worth it...or else I'm going to make myself believe it...

See you all online...

Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Ceric on June 26, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Do you want cel-shading?

Or do you want crotch-fur-rendering?


Well actually know that you mention it... Yeah.

Take a look at the Monster Rancher series.  Thats what I want.  MR3 if cell shading and MR4 if not.  My PS2 broke so I haven't been able to play the newest version yet...  Though I wish that Tecmo make one for Wii.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Pale on June 26, 2007, 03:59:51 PM
Picked mine up too.  Initial impressions are that it's an awesome package and definitely worth 20 bucks as an add on to diamond and pearl....

/sigh  too bad it's 50.  That said, there's a lot of cool stuff, and I jumped on and had a random online battle in like three seconds.  The friend code thread is up over in that forum.
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Giolon on June 29, 2007, 12:57:54 PM
Unless you're absolutely dying to have battles with random people online, I'd say this game is not worth it.

I bought this game the day it came out, and I seriously feel like I was hoodwinked by Nintendo.  It's lacking features that even the original Stadium had.

I was a big fan of Pokemon Stadium b/c of the mode that let you play the R/B/Y games in triple speed.

Stadium 2 was great b/c it had all those minigames, and again the gameboy player.

Coliseum had the pokemon that you couldn't catch in the GBA games so you could transfer them back to your GBA cart, as well as the single player story and questline.

Now, in Battle Revolution, you get none of that.  You can copy your pokemon to your wii and battle with them there, but that's it.  Nothing transfers back to or affects your DS game in any way.  You can't earn XP and move them back, your battle record on the DS is completely separate, and there are no pokemon to catch on BR to take back to your DS game.  In short, PBR has very little to offer other than making yourself a semi-customizable avatar and playing random wi-fi battles.

Just my $.02.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: retledge on June 29, 2007, 01:27:27 PM
You can transfer specific things back. TMs, Prizes, a special Pokemon from winning.

It's fun for me - I finished the game, what's left? Why EV train? Why IV train? Compete. It's fun to beat up your friends, but it's also fun to compete online.
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Giolon on June 29, 2007, 01:41:55 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: retledge
You can transfer specific things back. TMs, Prizes, a special Pokemon from winning.

It's fun for me - I finished the game, what's left? Why EV train? Why IV train? Compete. It's fun to beat up your friends, but it's also fun to compete online.


Oh really?  There's nothing I saw in the manual or in the tutorials that indicated that this was the case.  I'll believe you, but they didn't do a very good job of selling the game on its own merits.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Ceric on June 29, 2007, 01:45:17 PM
I think we have established that after the Stadium series they keep stripping features from these types of games.  Next one will just be a lobby for worldwide play.  Still $50, no single-player or same room multi and you must have a DS games.
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Mashiro on June 29, 2007, 02:23:46 PM
I'm completely convinced this game is the reason random online play does not exist in the DS version. It's the only reason I would want PBR, but I'll be damned if I am gonna pay 50 bucks for it.
Title: RE:Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Darkheart on June 30, 2007, 02:25:02 PM
Just got the game today, does anyone know how to play 2 player on one wii if one person doesnt have a ds.  Is there a way of using rental pokemon.  The game only allows one profile, is there a way to make a second profile?
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: cubist on June 30, 2007, 05:27:42 PM
So far...I started to get into it...and then...I got sick...

Now when I look back at my 2 hours of playing the game...my initial reaction wasn't all that positive...and I just started with Pokemon by buying both Diamond and Pearl.   The handhelds were great, but this should only compliment it with a price tag of $20.00.  I'm a bit sad...but hey...maybe I need to spend more time with it...who knows???  
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Br26 on July 01, 2007, 01:04:50 AM
No! Don't fall for the trap! Nintendo thinks they can sell anything by slapping the name "Pokemon" on it despite the fact you can play this game on your DS, with voice chat and everything, for much less! Don't let the shiny 3D graphics fool you!
Title: RE: Pokemon Battle Revolution--is it worth it?!
Post by: Mario on July 02, 2007, 05:02:00 AM
Are special rules like Little Cup playable online?